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. >> professor william haseltine there. way you think about this virus should help inform how all of us try to protect ourselves and our loved ones especially as children are starting to head back to school. joining me right now is an assistant professor of epidemiology at the school of public health. let me ask you first, maybe what we can call a conflicting picture coming from the covid indicators right now. average deaths across the country down, but death rates still rising in some of these trouble spots that we're looking at and also the positivity rate across the country. it really hasn't changed in the last few weeks. what do you see when you see these indicators? is this good news or bad news? i would say it's still generally bad news. we should not settle for having 50,000 new cases per day, but the good news here is that cases are potentially coming down, but this is a very heterogenous virus saying you can have major outbreaks in one part of the country and you could have very few cases in another part of the cou

. >> joining us now, william haseltine.the chair and president of access international, health international, author of "a family guide to covid." professor, thanks so much for being with us. dr. deborah birx in this interview with dana over the weekend said we're in a new phase of this pandemic and said that the administration pivoted about five or six weeks ago. they adjusted to this new phase. well, if that's true, given where we are today and what we're seeing, what does it say about the quality of the new plan that they took five or six weeks ago? >> well, regardless of what plans people have made, this epidemic is now out of control. and it's out of control mostly because of our own behavior. people have not taken the consistent warnings of our health officials seriously. they are gathering in private and in public places, without adequate protection. they are ignoring the advice, and the virus doesn't care what people would like. it does what it can do and takes advantage of our behavior. these viruses evolved over a

william haseltine, thank you so much for talking with us. i do appreciate it. >> you're welcome. thank you very much for the opportunity. >>> the world health organization says there is a new phase of the pandemic defined by younger people catching the disease. >> the w.b.o.'s national director says it is not just a sign of resurgence but showing it is a new phase of the pandemic. some countries are seeing surges that in some cases are larger than the original outbreaks. >>> and meantime, thousands of people gathered for a party in wuhan, china, the former epicenter of this pandemic. you can see the audience packed in tightly for this concert at a water park with very few masks in sight. wuhan reportedly hasn't seen any new coronavirus cases since may. officials are hoping to boost the economy with the lockdown now lifted. to do that they have waived ticket fees at hundreds of tourist sights. >>> british prime minister boris johnson is facing massive public anger, this time from students, parents and teachers. the u.k. government has you turned on plans to deal with exam grades i

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i want to bring in william haseltine, who is the former professor at harvard medical school. i'm glad you're here, professor. thank you for joining us. you know, you heard the president, again, saying that this virus is disappearing. despite the numbers that we continue to report on. i mean, what message does that send to people out there that need to be wearing masks, that need to be socially distancing, to hear that it's disappearing from the president of the united states? >> well, it's certainly not the case. the virus is spreading. and it's, as you mentioned, it's infected a large number of people today, yesterday, and it will tomorrow. an even larger number. we've had enormous numbers of deaths in this country. and now, it's projected they may rise to 300,000. let me just give some comparative numbers. when we had 60,000 people infected, in one day, china had 35. when we've had 1,250 people die, china had none. this virus can be controlled with leadership, with coordination. and we aren't doing it. a lot of that responsibility lies with the confusion and the mixed messa

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joining us now, william haseltine, the president and chairman of access health international, a formerharvard medical school, and also the author of the new book, a covid back-to-school guide. based on all of that, i'm wondering, we're waiting on this plan, right, from north paulding high school. how old would you revise they reopen safely? >> there are simple rules for reopening schools. the first is, what is the level of infection in your zip code, in your area, and the people who work at the school. that's the first rule. the second rule is, are there any people who are at risk in your community? you, your student, your parents, your grandparents, and school administrators? and the third is what precautions you're actually taking. when you look at those pictures in georgia, you know they weren't taking the right precautions. and it is not surprising in a high-risk, high-infected area that people aren't taking precautions that a lot of people get infected and students, too. they better do a lot better than they've done before if they're planning to reopen. >> professor, i think you c

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. >> professor haseltine, thank you for being with us. >> you're welcome. thank you. >>> breaking overnight. police in seattle, after several officers were injured during a protest overnight. at least ten people were arrested. one of the officers suffered a significant eye injury. protesters in seattle have been demanding racial justice and greater police accountability. >>> also developing overnight, a tense standoff in texas between police and a gunman who shot three police officers. it is continuing at this hour. police say the gunman remains barricaded inside a home holding three family members hostage. police say the suspect is in his mid-20s. he has mental health issues. the officers were shot after responding to a call from the gunman's mother who said her son kicked in a door and was acting aggressively. the three officers are expected to fully recover. >>> house lawmakers are being call back to washington to address the growing crisis with the u.s. postal service. we're going to discuss how democrats are trying to fight back against president trump

. >> we had professor haseltine, formerly of harvard medical school, who was saying in the last segment believes it's the administration putting the thumb on the scale over the fda or hhs to get this emergency use authorization, which just last week the fda had said that there wasn't the evidence for that. do you believe that there are political reasons in the fda, or deep state in the fda, that would hold up plasma authorization because of dislike of the president? >> well, i can tell you, because in the company that you mentioned that i work with, we do a lot of work with seaver, which is the blood products division of the fda. i've never met finer people in government than the people who run seaver. i can tell you that i have absolutely zero belief that seaver was doing anything to block that. look, having said that, you know, there are legitimate reasons for this to be approved. and, you know, with all due respect to the professor, throwing out the potential of people getting aids from these convalescent transfusions is completely irresponsible, by the way. the reality is people sho

william haseltine, always good to have you on. thank you so much.e close of convention, we are now a month and a day away from the first presidential debate. we'll discuss the two very different messages as we head into the final sprint of 2020. stay with us. ♪ ♪ take the good, with the bad ♪ live the life you want to have ♪ ♪ send it off, with a bang ♪ it's looking really good! ♪ [whistling] [indistinguishable muffled words] ♪ >>> our 2020 lead now. the final sprint to november 3rd. with 67 days until the election, both candidates are poised to hit the trail in person and hoping for a boost from their conventions, though vice president biden and president trump presented starkly different views of themselves and the united states. let's discuss with cnn senior political commentator, david axelrod. david, what most struck me about last night is the republican party and the white house going to such great lengths to say, you know, president trump is actually a very different person when you get to know him, behind the scenes. >> yeah, you know, what