just having a loan is not going to help him. he needs to have work. based on his comments tonight and what he has been telling us for six months or longer, he is committed. i think we should support him. commissioner norton: thank you for the presentation. i want to follow up for a minute on what you just talked about. you mentioned that the loan would be paid back with interest, but in the requested action it does not say anything about it. it just says it will be repaid -- will be reimbursed to the district. i do not know if we need to amend that. >> if you like, you can amend that. it was always understood would pay interest based on the amount of money received from the city pool. commissioner norton: what is the source of the funds we would be using for the credit? >> it would be the general fund. commissioner norton: the unrestricted general fund? we do not anticipate that are going to be drawing down that hole $200,000 at one time -- whole $200,000 a one time. does that put pressure on our own cash flow? >> it does not right now, but they could

we have developed on the documents so we want this to have a different look and feel than what we have before. we have included the guides to the schools and the policy guides and the maps and a lot of resources for parents and >> applications and other kinds of materials. we have conducted discovery workshops where we have worked parents through the process and talked to them about how this process works. this has gone everyone very excited. we have an enrollment center and we have gone out and brought our stuff out to different neighborhoods to collect applications or to get information from the families. these are the areas where we have been turned down -- where we have been. it is in very important to continue the out reach. this allows staff to engage in different placements. we have placements in may and august. we realize that many families are not here or just move into san francisco. with our system, they can engage in choice. the out reach we are planning will continue throughout the month of march, april, may. this week, these are the dates and times and locations of our sa

we will have to have something more -- we will have to have more detail by june 1 in order for this to go through the budget analyst process. so, you know, we can give you an update of where we are at what time. commissioner murphy: i think we should compare per square foot cost of this construction and the proposal to our real estate department. we would all love to have an open checkbook. anyway, that is enough of that. can you go to page three? we are supposedly bringing back some people that were laid off a few years ago. how many, and what departments will they be going to? >> the net increase in staff is 13 fte's, which to the extent that whenever you have a new person, a new head, you cannot budget for the full year. so the majority of the issuance would come in in the -- in september. we have -- the majority of the inspectors -- well, some of the inspectors -- we have not exhausted the list, but there is still quite a bit of -- a long list of clerks. there is a long list of -- commissioner murphy: that is the key word there, clerks. we have been waiting for, it seems like a yea

yet having a plan and having it put into practice is -- i don't have to tell you, two different things. we have had that hearing in the brussels parliament asking for the results of the plan and in fact it was quite frustrating. as you can see, painting lanes was going forward. we made quite good progress there. we have cycling routes 18 being planned and we only have four of them. that was in 2007. in 2009, there are only four of the 18 routes being really, well, operational. one of the big problems we have had and so i'm optimistic for the near future, but it was we had a great plan. we did have money in the budget, but we did not have enough people in the administration that could really, well, make it happen. and quite recently, two years ago, in that period, by the way, they really decided that we should enforce the administration because it's really, you need to work on it before you can realize what you would like to -- before you can realize, for instance, this one of the typical brussels road coming into brussels. you can see there is an industry on the left and the right, but

we have to take into consideration that we have enjoyed the lowest homicide rate we have had in the last 40 years. we have 45 in 2009. last year, we have 50. 1975, we were up to 130 homicide. i am not saying 11 is good. unacceptable. we wanted to be lower. we wanted to be zero. we have enjoyed two tremendous years. we will keep up the work we have done. we have reduction teams in place. strategies are there and have not changed. we have not backed off. we are proactive in all aspects of this issue. i feel confident that in the big picture, after we look at six months and 12 months, we will get a picture of where we are at. i think we will be down to where we should be. supervisor campos: i think i probably share your optimism. i think we have to be optimistic. the role of this committee is to make sure we are proactive about what is happening. i will be honest. one of the discussions i think we need to have and i look forward to having in the near future is what is happening around our community policing efforts. there's a purpose for providing what has happened in the very recent past.

, and you have to have an access panel on it. you have to be mindful of that. you cannot just stick it in there and hide the motor forever. it has waterjets here. really popular in these tubs is soaps and oils, and the water recycles them. sometimes the shampoos and oils clogged the system. an alternative to that is air jets. air jets do not do that. it has a pedestal sink and a matching toilet. it has a wonderful medicine cabinet here with a great feature now, so there is actually a locking compartment so you can put your medicines in there. >> there you go. excellent. and it has got its little shaving mirror or whatever. makeup mirror. normally, this would be recessed, right? >> yes, it would be pushed on the wall, so you have to be again mindful about that. when you are doing the construction, you have to leave a little opening for a period >> one of the big issues we always have is coordination and construction between the fixture's and the trade. the plumber might come along and put a vent pipe or some of the plumbing lines

the problem i have here in texas is we have to have insurance. we have to be insured. we have to go by the dot regulations, and we have people standing on corners for home depot and stuff that will work for $4.50 dollars per hour. no one is doing nothing about them. -- that will work for $4 or $5. also, i have a daughter that is 16-years-old. i remember when i got out of school, you could always go to mcdonald's or one of these places and find a job. these jobs here in texas are now being filled by illegal immigrants that are down here working, and no one is doing anything about it. host: illegal immigration is the same there. there. theme guest: i think it is hard to illegalout the socia immigrants because to get the job they had to supply a social security card. it is very hard to tell who is an illegal immigrant, just as our parents work or who is not my first question would be do not jump to conclusions. i think lots of folks who did not plan on working who were working only in their homes are now coming out and taking a lot of those jobs at mcdonald's, and it did

we have a -- population like you have here. we have a very large call volume in memphis. these calls which involve individuals were thought to be at high risk and the need for additional help and support and are an additional crisis. we have transportation which has those who are brought for evaluation which runs at about 4500 a year. there is a need to transport people to emergency services less. the number that actually began to be brought in began to drop because of the information that they brought to this service. we can have less restrictive service which i thought was positive. this is what has happened to officer injuries. the light blue line was 84-87. if you look at what happens, it begins to dramatically decrease. you will find that the injury rate on all calls is that different from the calls on high-risk calls such as those involving a person with drug or alcohol abuse. we can see any dramatic decrease and this is very powerful. let's take a look at some of the other data. this is from a health and human services that we did. we had a group that was not inter

we all have to be held accountable at every level to have all hands on deck. we have the obliteration of our young people. homicide is the leading cause of death. for the period we have been in iraq. there are have been 4 thousand casualties. this is a program in our own back yard. we need the city coordination to insure we're having the coordination. >> can't we have a meeting, call it whatever you want, maybe your organization. you can coordinate. is that something that can be done? we are talking about community input. doing thing for a particular community. >> i think there are opportunities to do that. i think we have to be methodical. given the scope and size of the bureaucracy. it's easier said than done. we have to do that incrementally and in a way we have clear wins so that people can both at the city level and community level coming together to do the collective work. it's been fragmented. we need a city and organization >> we have to start somewhere. in baby steps. i want to talk a little bit about pilot programs. what's this called. i know not eve

>> i think we have done them as events have transpired, and as events have changed. sure. i will say this, i would go back again and look at what this administration, what this president has said specifically about changes that need to happen to respect the universal rights that we have spoken of both in egypt and throughout the middle east. i would point you to secretary clinton's recent speech as outlining a series of these steps. >> as you game this out, what is the best-case, and worst-case scenario? >> i am not going to get into hypothetical now. i'm just not going to get into them here. we are planning a full range of scenarios. i think it is important, jake , to understand -- at think it is hard to imagine the event that happened yesterday. several of these events across the landscape are happening very quickly. we are watching those events. we are planning notes -- for those events. there is a committee meeting that starts very shortly where they will get into a whole range of issues. obviously, we are concerned about the violence that i talked about. we are concer

we have all of this excess real- estate we have not moved on. i would like to bring that forward. >> we are expecting that that will come up on the february a calendar -- 8 calendar. we will keep that to one month from now. as a reminder, this is a month that we are asking for a lot of time and attention. the budget hearings will be on the fourth floor, not in this building. both meetings start at 9:30 in the morning. on the twenty fifth, we have a regular meeting for the commission scheduled and we do not think we need that meeting. if you want to discuss that here and now, we can cancel it if you like. on the twenty seventh, we have the capital discussion. the planning commission should be hearing the environmental review that day. we were hoping that to happen in the planning commission and then have it come to us. we have reserved a room in this building in the morning, but we are not expecting it to happen. we have meetings scheduled at 9:30 on february 3 and the regular meeting on february 8. those meetings are to finalize discussions in t

we have to have those confirmations. those funds may develop in other ways and i welcome the votes when they occur. but the larger point i want to make is that this is a matter of urgency right now, because it goes to the heart of whether we have a functioning system of justice that we can offer the public of this country. yes. >> i want to be that guy. what is the administration's next up with guantanamo, given the actions that congress has taken? yet given up yet happening within the next two-year period? >> what i will do so that i can declined to answer to questions in a row and set a record, it is allowed carolina to appear at an event scheduled for that purpose. it is a very high complicated question. it would require several minutes of explanation and some back room. it is probably more within the time that we can do. thank you very much. [applause] >> that is extremely stimulating, interesting, and i'm very interested to see what our panelists have to say in response. we are fortunate after bob's talk, to have th

we certainly have a lot of people, we have raised the awareness, we have got self-reporting now which helps us to understand where shortcomings are happening. even in the best of intentions, procedures move and technology changes and you to find out where things are not working well and get people to report it so you can change it. with those changes that we have in the system today, not only in the regional world but elsewhere, air traffic control, large carriers, a lot of procedures have changed and a constant strive to be ever safer. >> thank you. one other quick question here. there are people here who -- family members were victim of the crash obviously are passionate about continuing that safety and making sure we do all we can as a subcommittee and as a congress with the faa to make air traffic as safe as possible. what do you see or what would you suggest to them, ways that they could be helpful to the faa? how could they provide input? what are things that they could come alongside? they've shown their commitment by being here today. what would you suggest to them to help us

we have a comment on twitter. sam writes that individuals have rights, groups don't have rights. let's hear from dan in pennsylvania. do unions matter? calle caller: yes, i used to belong to unions. they seem to have incentive to consolidate work habits. they are concerned about members, their presidents and their stewards and stuff like that. what are they going to do with a holiday tree? host: i don't know anything about that. but go to david in virginia beach. caller: if groups don't have rights, a lot of corporations have rights. the teacher from the carolinas and unions hurt the budget. why does the north carolina governor have issues, they don't have the same union issues as wisconsin. i'm from south carolina. that is a right to work state. they have a budget issues. they don't have unions or union problems, but they are still cutting education. this is an attack on education, not an attack on unions. they are attacking public education. that is all this is about. if it's tax cuts, then why is governor walter giving tax breaks to international corporations, but asking the p

this anyone have of you? -- does anyone have a view? >> the monarchy has more -- although it is a monarchy. then some republics in the middle east. we are dealing with harsh police states and authoritarianism is mentioned as examples, especially in tunisia. the lack of political rights and horrendous record in terms of human rights has [inaudible] >> there is a sense there is a big difference. this is my last question. let me ask you if they see factors that, and we have and other countries less vulnerable. and the factors we have mentioned, we have not discussed. >> i do not think there are factors we have not mentioned. one thing we have not yet said which is worth saying is that, no matter where you are on the scheme of comparison on the different sources of vulnerability, it is an interesting discussion. wherever you happen to be, what are the things you need to do to make yourself less vulnerable? the key issue is how often do these themes crop up? my corte away is the should be a bit of a wake-up call for every wone. you have to a

we have learned a lot from their comments. i have enjoyed working on the bridge. i have enjoyed working with the transit issues. many of us for get that the tolls, people keep saying why you have such large polls? this is because we support the ferries, the buses come other transit issues. that is part of our policy. that is continuing that way and i supported that strongly. thank you, and i look forward to your vote. >> thank you for your service. are there any questions? do you support charging pedestrians and cyclists a toll to cross the bridge? >> i don't. we've talked about the challenge of whether you can somehow charge the taurus and did not the residents. -- tourists and not the res idents. if it you were going to allow residents to cross for free, you would have to do it for all six counties. i have concluded that there's not a workable system to do it. maybe-maybe there will be a proposal. you have friends and colleagues telling me that there are all of those tourists walking across the bridge. there's a certain pride in having it be for free. people lik

ultimately, things have to be replaced. you have to replace them. one of the people that spoke earlier made a comment in the last part of their statement that we will be dealing with this redevelopment well into the twenty second century. i hope that you vote for this and the innovation. >> a good evening, commissioners. [unintelligible] president olague: that would be awesome. >> by the way, i am not related to manny flores. [laughter] we are going through bad times. we hope that you move forward. [unintelligible] i was at one of the previous meetings. what i see, the people -- [unintelligible] that is funny. we all, at one time, we are going to need a place to live. sooner or later, we end up in the hospital. we need the house, apartments. now it is four times as much. we need to make a change. that is about all i can say. thank you. president olague: did your members want to rise? did they prefer to speak? thank you. >> my name is rose hilton, i am here to read a letter representing 46 neighborhood organizations. he proposed planning code which w

we have given a voice to many who have suffered in silence. i want to acknowledge 2 individuals who have carried out our mission. you met angela chan from the asian law office. can you give it up for them. i also want to say to be members of the safety america partnership. our efforts have been over lookd and unappreciated, but i know what tremendous contributions we have made to the quality of life in our neighborhoods. i am looking forward to continuing that in the future. it feels acward to be up here. i know there are so many of you that contribute t

we have and the officers and firefighters we have on the ground. we are very lucky. >> you mentioned that you are a former athlete. talk to me about the role of sports in the city's economic future, from the 49ers to the america's cup. talk to me about sports in san francisco. >> i was fortunate growing up.

>> i think we have done that as events have transpired and as events have changed. i will say this, i would go back again and look at what this administration or this president has said specifically about changes that need to happen to respect the universal rights that we have spoken of, both in egypt and throughout the middle east. and i would point you to secretary of state's speech in doha in outlining a series of steps. >> what's the best case scenario here and what's the worst case scenario? >> i don't want to get into a series of hypotheticals. >> you are getting into hypotheticals. >> i'm not going to get into them here. we are planning for a full range of scenarios. i think it's important to understand -- i think it is hard to even imagine several days ago the events that happened yesterday. events across this landscape are happening very quickly and we're watching those events and planning for those events. there is a meeting that starts very shortly where we will get -- they will get into a whole range of issues. obviously we're concerned about violence th

we end up having to have other people work on them. on treasure island, hunters point, on the larger ones, we had somebody that was an attorney and an 0941 manager. >> and that is public information, correct? >> and the fact that we have had to bring in other people. >> you have no audits or concerns? thank you. president vietor: next speaker, please. >> mr. kelly. >> i'm just speaking highly of what i have had with the real estate department. they are very professional in running a horse ranch. still the same, they are a great group to work with. >> where is your horse ranch? hong >>> san mateo. president vietor: hanthank you r your comment. next speaker, please. welcome back. >> i have a prepared something. good afternoon president and commission members. i am the president of the board of the nonprofit skyline stables. when we have been your tenants for over 60 years. we negotiated an agreement in good faith to make way for the water systems improvement project at our old home. we have vacated our barns and the horses are scattered

i have a lot of job offers. i have 6. if you keep yourself involved then you won't be involved in gangs. people get in trouble not doing anything. if you keep yourself occupied. then you won't be able. are you going to fight this girl. no , i got to go to work. if you keep yourself involved in amount of activities you don't have time to get into bad stuff. >> jenay. >> have you 6 job offers. >> i just got one today >> tyree. >> i keep my focus on the studio. we have a program in the summer at the cultural center from 9 to 3:50 p.m.. 9 to 5 now. it's your momma's schedule. it's all positive or drama. like we do rapping. make beats. produce. that's about about it though. >> cheryl, do you have anything to add >> >> it's going to take the kids to stop the violence >> how do we do that? >> people need to step up and tell their friends. >> voices of the future. >> hall luia. >> john, i am going to pick on you again. crn. why don't you tell us about that. it's the positive things we've doing. i am going to follow up. how we can

there have been a number of studies which have tried to assess. a very careful study suggests that the total job impact of all of the qe programs and the reinvestments could be up to 3 million jobs. the important thing is to understand that it is not insignificant. it is an important contribution to growth and job creation. we are in a situation where we have almost half of the unemployed being out of work for more than six months. the longer people stay out of work the more difficult it will be for them to rejoin the labour force at a decent wage and return to their previous employment. >> so that was a credible study, was it not? >> it was and there have been other studies as well. >> my understanding is with respect to qe2, that it created around 700,000 jobs. is that correct? >> the same study attributed to the $600 billion qe2 about 700,000 jobs. let me emphasize these are simulation studies but they do indicate the potential impact was significant. >> these are the studies we all do. with respect to that policy, if you did not have those too

we have had jobs having to do with construction and bus driving, and we have had white collar jobs, and we have been independent artists and writers. the full spectrum have come to laguna honda. and in our day we were great participants in all of the city life. difficult circumstances, sometimes crushingly difficult, have brought many of us here at last to laguna honda. not at last for some of us. despite all differences, we need the healing that laguna honda is famous for. some people who come will be rehabilitated and will leave sunday. others will need 24-hour care for the rest of their lives, and so they will look forward to spending time in the spending -- in this building for years to come. it is exciting to have a new building. it is even more exciting to receive a new model of care, care that is resident centered, care that honors each person as an individual instead of a body in a bed. care that involves talking to us, and more important, listening to us, hearing our voices. so many have worked so hard, has you have been told -- as you have been told, to bring the state to pass

we have to have some educating to do. me be clear -- our purpose is not simply to defend public spending for its own sake. some of you may remember senator edmund muskie, my first boston washington. from experience, he was a man with a down-to-earth way of talking, a first-rate intellect, and a world-class temper. [laughter] he was also the father of the congressional budget process. for want of a better term, he was a tightwad. he did not think there was anything inherently liberal or progressive about spending money. in fact, he would not give you a dime unless it was justified. he also understood that there is nothing freak about freedom. he came from a family of polish immigrants and he was a lieutenant in the u.s. navy during world war two. he knew the value of american leadership because he had seen it may call the difference in his own life. i don't know about you but i can definitely relate to that. and yet america today is embattled and our troops are fighting a war in afghanistan that cannot be won by military m

we have increased this because we have to go out for an rfp and because we are having some interesting issues with the contractor that will require additional funding. so we put in some money for that. we just really do not know how that is going to tie out. so that is the high-level i wanted to give you. i will as much as possible respond to your questions. if i cannot give you an answer now, i will give it to you next week. commissioner murphy: commissioner walker. commissioner walker: thank you. thank you for the presentation and for speaking outside of the whole we are in. this is in my mind a positive step towards restoring some positions and restoring service and actually getting to the level of work we are doing. some follow-up questions on some of the project. you were talking about the permitting and tracking system project and that the 600,000 brings us up -- is it to our total obligation or just the obligation to this point? >> it would bring us up to the -- since we do not have a contract right now, we do not have really an obligation to this point. this is our projected am

and go over that pieces. >> we have witnesses who have come in from what it -- memphis, tenn., and have been very generous with their time. this is not the police doing better, the public three buttercup but a plan that reduces injuries on both sides so there is less use of force so our police unser's go home safe at night to the. -- our police officers go home safe at night. we look at a variety of different programs across the country. i would like to think the chief for his leadership. we discovered that we are doing something better than los angeles. we hope to borrow some of their aspects in the future. the goal of all of this is to have the press policing model and the country when officers encounter potentially violent situations. we never want to have to use force. that is the goal in all of this. there will be another meeting talking about whether or not when they have to use force, should they have other tools? tonight, the first focus is are we doing everything we can to harm them avoid the use of force. what is so impressive is that they have been successful in memphis and d

i have been told i was not. i have also been told that they have everything under control. i have been trying to tell people, it is agreed -- greed. if you want to stop the violence, stop the greed. if you see a million people retaliating, wait what happens when 100 million people retaliate. this is not just going on in the middle east but in democracies all over the world. and greed is overtaking it. we've got to wake up. you want to stop the violence, stop the greed. host: mark from michigan. speaking of places around the world watching that, "the wall street journal." tunisia probes protesters. -- protestor deaths. jordan's king and islamist need after a 10-year hiatus. israel worries about the pipeline. of possible repercussions in that region of the world. across the globe, in china, this story in "the washington times. but dissidents here obama's silence. china's christians push for u.s. backing of religious freedoms. it's been here in washington beginning to emerge from senators questioning -- a theme here in washington beginning to emerge from senators questioned th

i'm out of town next week. >> and if we do not have frank, which we may not have, then we only have 5 people. >> can i ask a question? is the likelihood that they will use the budget that we have or just come up with their own? i just want to know -- that of past practice has been a will take the suggestions of the department, but the mayor can make changes to the budget. >> and he can anyway, whether we support it -- >> yes, he can. >> he might do some other stuff. just pointing it out. >> i think we are done. commissioner murphy: we will hear back. >> ok. so i will hear from you or whatever or try to make a date or whatever. ok. all right, any public comment on item number b, if there is any public left? item nine, adjournment -- >> i have one more question. could you update the schedule of the subcommittees? >> we probably will after we vote for president and vice president, the next meeting we will vote for the said committee. there really are not any changes on the subcommittee, accept one woman may not have gone through with being on a board due to the process of going through a

we have taken a chance for the youth. we have taken a dream and they hope. if they do not have a pass, they get fined. they get sent to jail. this is opportunity. give them a chance. use that chance. thank you. supervisor campos: thank you. i am going to read a few more names. ava benetra, hillar liang, gloria esteban. >> [speaking chinese] >> my name is ho. i am from chinatown and am a pier or the buzzer. every month, a lot of our families have to pay for three or more test passes. it is a heavy burden, especially for new immigrant families. i hope supervisors will pass this resolution so they can have free fast passes. supervisor campos: are we ready? i think we are ready now. >> what is your full name? what school do you attend? >> bling vista -- buena vista. >> do you like muni? >> yes. it takes a lot of time, and too many people, and it costs a lot of money. >> the you have something to say to these people that could make the money -- the newly free for you and your family? >> please. >> what is your full name? and what school do you attend? we are tryi

we will have an important meeting coming up in germany this weekend where we will have a chance to have a broad based discussion on where we are. i am not aware of any particular actions in the last few days. >> do you expect any israelis or palestinians to be there? >> i have look at the schedule and i am not seeing any meetings like that. but regardless of whether the secretary has a double -- >> regardless of whether the secretary has a meeting -- >> if the nepal government asked for u.s. help to fight the enemy -- >> has there been any determination on the fate -- >> i think the investigation is still ongoing. [no audio] >> the senate intelligence committee has just gaveled in on the president's nominee of domestic intelligence to support national security. journalists will be discussing the protests in egypt. we will hear from the chief pentagon correspondent. it is hosted by the center for strategic and international studies. we will have it like for you here on c-span at 5:30 p.m. eastern. the senate has been discussing the 100th birthday of president reagan. you can follow senat

with century muslims if they have been in my country there have been they have been studying the real base in the last thirty years so this is not in centuries a well have been muslims have been muslims that have been muslims in bosnia and that's all what we know about it and they were there because of there was many compiler wasn't i'm sorry but if they were if you all are this is the point peter that the friend from from the from cooper nagin some somehow thinks that the bosnian war was caused by the bosnian muslims not bite a newborn nobody deserves it demonstrates to you his agenda is about opposing islam opposing muslims always constantly attacking our faith i don't know you need to post i know you need to get all he's an associate himself if you are so she eighteen yourself would to serbians if you associate yourself with the massacres and the genocide that was committed bosnia that shows your true colors this is not what it's about that kind. of hero after a short break we'll continue our discussion on muslim population growth stay with arkie. you. steve. discover it to be easy

a lot of them have been reported. candidly, a lot of them have not been. we need to make sure this is done on time and to the level of expectation that all of us have, so i just want to congratulate mayor lee for his enthusiastic support, and i appreciate his help starting this through the process that requires, and to be here and lead us on to the extent i can to other federal partners as well as private sector partners. congratulations, everybody. [applause] >> one of the leaders we will have in the continuing conversations on implementing the america's cup is supervisor ross mirkarimi, without his assistance, we would not be here today. [applause] supervisor mirkarimi: good morning. it is an honor and the like to be here with former mayor, n lieutenant, newsom, mayor ed lee, and the rest of the city family. many people refer to me as an early supporter of the idea to bring america's cup to san francisco. as many of you know, for me, it is a generational level of support because growing up in southern rhode island where southern rhode island newport was

they have asked us to protect our ports. they have asked us to protect our borders. they have asked us to protect our communities against terrorists international or home grown and the cyber world. we have been building to meet those missions. that's what we do. so, we are going to be and the president is going to be very careful of his requests. you are under the same fiscal disciplines as other departments. there are places we can eliminate redundancies and we are looking for those. to simply take a big old thing and sago back to 2008 without understanding operational impacts for this kind of work, would probably not be what i would advise from a budget tea standpoint. >> thank you for that comment. i think it's helpful to us all. my second question is we have several trade agreements on the horizon, korea is here. on, columbia and panama is coming. you have heard several questions to do with the ports. when we asked the question when you first became secretary about implementing the 9/11 recommendations do that we have to redo these agreements. how involved have y

we have divisions that can be played up but we do have a national spirit. and the younger people have a since of that, more than me or my others i think there are half a million libyan who did not give a huge car or hoot about who their tribe is and will not be played up this way. so i think we have a nation of now thinking along those lines, libyans are living a great moment. they are living a sense of capturing and recapturing their honor and there's nothing not world that would make them want to lose that. i think that the sacrifices may be coming and i would not wish it on my citizens to pay more. it is really any death that happens or more is more than libya can bear. but the moment of truth has come and, yes, there may be blood gushing forth again, but we, the people of libya, i'm certain, shall rejoice soon. >> ali, last words? >> this is a wonderful moment. the libyan people who are really generous, courageous and aspiring for human dignity finally took matters in their own hands. but also for us as americans, it's important for us not to see the so

we have not had a request yet, so i have not had to rule on that. >> we have a question in the back. >> i wanted to ask wells fargo, what is your interest rate on a loan? >> 6%. 2.75% over prime. >> ok. the second question, is a line of credit like a payroll advancement? i am a small business. just recently got contracts in san francisco. as you say, they pay slow. i want to get a loan for $50,000, but i do not want to pay the interest. i would like to get a payroll advancement where the money is available to me, should i needed for payroll. if i should need it, i can get that money. when the city pays me back, i pay them back, but that line of credit is still there. is that what they line of credit is? >> yes, ma'am. as you have a need for something to pay -- in this case, your bills -- before you get your invoices paid, that you would be able to do that. a line of credit is typically the way that most small businesses deal with cash flow variations. when invoices are paid, you pay down your line. that is slightly different from a permit working capital loan. those businesses that n

do we have any -- do you have any studies, do you have new numbers, do you have something that is showing that relationship? because the entire time that i was the chair, which was for about three years, i could never, you know, it was intuiti intuitive, but we have on record people saying maybe it doesn't lower the amount of body power that we need. >> well, you still need manpower. i mean, technology is no substitute for manpower. but you're never going to have enough money to put a border patrol agent every 100 yards along the thousands of miles of border. so you have to have technology and infrastructure. that's a three-legged stool as part of a system. and then you have to have interior enforcement inside the country to back that up. one of the reasons that i stopped the sbi net program was so that we could redeploy those moneys into technologies that we know work. that we know are force multipliers. that enable, for example, a small forward operating base near the tahoena nation in arizona to be at the turn and be able to cover a larger distance than otherwise they would be able to

have hunger, we have poverty, we have unemployment being high. the foreclosure rates in florida, nevada, arizona, are astronomical. people are losing their homes. they lose their jobs, they lose their homes, they are out on the street, and these are what we call the new poor. these are not the stereotype poor, generation after generation of poverty. these are people who were making it for awhile, and the bottom has fallen out of the economy and out of their lives. what kind of country to we want to have? host: president obama, who was a community organizer in chicago, has agreed to community block grants. here is what jacob lew wrote. "these grants have been allocated using a formula that does not consider how good a job the recipients are doing pad the president is proposing to cut financing for this grant program in half, and reforming the many have into the grant program so that funds are spent to give communities the most effective help." their argument that it does not consider how well the recipients are doing. guest: i have great respect f

>> i do not have an update, but -- actually, i do, i do not have that in front of me. we did this from a different perspective. we did a study over three years in 2009 of 5150's intensely looking at what the cases were about, what the person was complaining of, and such, and to determine how many of those could have gone to dual urgent care instead of psychiatric emergency, and we came up with about 2/3 of those could have gone to build urgent care. within that study, which i'm happy to forward to your office, it does detail how many of the people were repeat calls and what specifically the numbers from each supervisory district as well. supervisor mirkarimi: maybe you can provide that to our offices. >> i would be happy to. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. appreciate it. supervisor campos: i do not have any questions. i simply want to make the point that, as is the case with anything dealing with public safety, whether you are dealing with mental health issues or something else, there's the policing peace, which i'm glad we are addressing the fact that we are followin

since i have been a stable member and have not missed any meetings, i have been laid because i am coming from -- late because i'm coming from bayview. i have been working a lot with the homeless coordinating board and i have gone to their meetings. the rules committee had not been as involved with the shelter monitoring. i am disabled and i live in public housing. i have been very involved with redevelopment in district 10. >> a good afternoon, supervisor kim. supervisors elsbernd and farrell. it is a pleasure to be here. i'm sorry. patricia card farrell. i am applying for seat number two. i believe my current experiences with and the san francisco shelter system would greatly enhance the efforts of the shelter monitoring committee. the city of san francisco is constantly attempting to raise the level of operation and care of the homeless population. as a disabled client and a resident in the shelter system, i continue to gain valuable insight and understanding the needs and challenges in providing ongoing support service to our nation's homeless population. i have a client in the disabi

we have to have faith and confidence in our officers. we have a very good police department. a program that is put in place with a lot of restrictions and protections for the public are what we need. with that in mind, i will ask that lt. -- we will have a commissioner commissioner hammer: -- we will have a commissioner hammer read it to you, and then we will have a vote. commissioner hammer: with friendly amendments'. to authorize the chief of police, in conjunction with the office of citizen complaints and to members of the police commission -- and two members of the police commission, to develop a proposal for modifications of the use of force and equipment, and for a proposal for a pilot program for the use of conducted energy devices with specific proposed policies, practices, and guidelines for their use, and to investigate and evaluate other less than lethal weapons. further, to require the chief of police -- i'm sorry. officer kingley's amendment. to develop this with members of the community and to set forth proposed costs and funding for all of the above with implem

simple. -- they have to have that simple. i do not see a revolution in jordan, although the jordanians will pay a lot more attention to creating jobs and other things. that could be a good thing. anchor was certainly directed at -- anchor was certainly directed at the former prime minister and the new prime minister seems to have a better standing with the populace. algeria and libya, syria -- these guys have no compunction about using military force to stop people. if mubarak had had the ability to command the army to go in and shoot those protesters from the beginning, he probably could have put this down very quickly. he did not had that ability because the army would not do it. there is a difference between the army in egypt, which is of the people and believes it is of the people, and the algerian army to as a long experience of doing things to its own people. the libyans or the same way. the syrians certainly. i lived there for a while. the example of egypt is not going to spread like prairie fire throughout the middle

now we have to reevaluate and we have reevaluated. we are spending a tremendous amount of money and we have to make sure our job is oversight and to make sure that the money we are spending is used the right way. i also sat on the appropriations committee and there are prioriti priorities. one thing of the costs are in the area of technology. i represent n.s.a. there is a lot of technology and we always have to keep,with other countries that are using technology against us. we have to stay ahead of the curve. another issue is space. one of the main reasons we are the most powerful country in the in the world and have freedom and liberty is because we control the skies. when sputnik came out years ago the concern was russia with control the skies. we put a man on the moon and as a result of research that put us on a level that we were experts in the field and continue to be but we're starting to slip. china is budget money into improve their military and space program. they are going to go to the moon again and talking about partnering

what we have done is what we have done in the past. we have budgeted in fiscal year 2012 for 98,000 troops. it is a conservative approach to budgeting. since we don't know how many troops will be reduced during the course of fiscal year 2012, as i told members of congress today at lunch, it just makes more budget sense to do this conservatively and budget on a straight line basis, and then depending on the size of the drawdowns, that may be money we just do not spend. because we have no idea what's the size of the drawdowns will be because there will be conditions, we decided to budget conservatively, but that is not to say that we will have 98,000 troops at the end of fiscal year 2012. i will turn it over to the experts now. >> health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius also spoke with reporters about her department's budget for next year. nearly $900 billion. this is about 45 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. welcome. i am the assistant secretary for public affairs. welcome to the humphrey building. thanks for joining