commissioners, chief scott, and director henderson. this is brian cox from the public defender's office. sb1421 became law 896 days ago. we weren't anywhere near full compliance. 10% to 15% by last estimates. as the public waits for years in the last decades, knew more about the officers who policed them. it's also fair to wonder if the current pace can keep up with the pace in which new records are created. so we're not working to the presentation tonight, which is fine and sort of separately an issue, but looking at the presentation and what they have to say, i'd like to ask the commission if it believes the pace of records production is acceptable? if it's not, then the commission to mandate compliance this year. this is year it's been in effect. we can't wait 10 years and whether this is a priority for dpa or sfpd. and the public defender's office has made its voice heard on this office again and again. i'm asking you to put a plan in place to comply with the law by the end of the year. i asked the commission to acquire the authori

director henderson us or do you have it, sarah? >> i've got the presentation. >> vice president elias: all right. can we go back on. >> absolutely. line item 6, overview of the department of police accountability's investigation process. discussion. >> vice president elias: great. director henderson. i'm sorry. ms. hopkins. >> thank you. good evening, vice president elias, chief scott, as well as members of the public. if i can please have our presentation brought up on the screen, thank you so much. and if we can go to the first slide, second slide, please. so a little bit of background for the community especially. the d.p.a. has various aspects to its mission. the first and what we're going to focus on mostly this evening is to fairly and partially investigate san francisco police officers. d.p.a. recommends making policy recommendations regarding police practices and conducting periodic audits or reviews of the san francisco police department. next slide, please. so this shows kind of the three separate components. they often o

director henderson, i see that you're in the queue. i had some questions, but i'll allow you to go ahead and go first. >> thank you. i had a comment because this has come up several times in the past. a lot of questions were [inaudible] page 13 on the slide, so i just wanted to point that out. i know we don't typically respond or address directly when we get called, but this is something that has come up in connection with wealth and disparities, so i just want to make sure that that's something that's not lost on the audience there, the m.o.u. between the police department and the district attorney's office for the criminal investigations. that's it. i just had that comment. >> vice president elias: great. thank you. i had a few questions, captain o'sullivan. i guess i'm trying to understand, when i.a. -- because it's i.a. crim who handles the criminal side and i.d. discipline that handles the investigation. >> correct. so in most cases, unless the member had since transferred because it's -- it's sent to -- wherever that member is wh

director henderson mentioned, a more active role. there are some recommendations coming your way on active cases, so they do have an impact. i think our processes have improved over the last several years. there's collaboration on the [inaudible]. >> president cohen: when did that happen? do you recall? >> the incident happened in 2018, and by 2019, we had the training, and we put a large number of officers through that training, and the feedback from that officers is it's outstanding because they appreciate the training and how it helped them do their job. >> president cohen: so what about any -- any policy movement from 2019, 2020? we're just creeping into 2021, again, given the data that's been reflected and what has been presented? do you see any new ideas for policy coming through the pipeline? >> yeah. there was some -- [overlapping speakers] >> there are other things that i think will come either the commission's way or the department's way either by notices or training from incidents as we dig into these incidents. so i think

director henderson mentioned, a more active role. there are some recommendations coming your way on active cases, so they do have an impact. i think our processes have improved over the last several years. there's collaboration on the [inaudible]. >> president cohen: when did that happen? do you recall? >> the incident happened in 2018, and by 2019, we had the training, and we put a large number of officers through that training, and the feedback from that officers is it's outstanding because they appreciate the training and how it helped them do their job. >> president cohen: so what about any -- any policy movement from 2019, 2020? we're just creeping into 2021, again, given the data that's been reflected and what has been presented? do you see any new ideas for policy coming through the pipeline? >> yeah. there was some -- [overlapping speakers] >> there are other things that i think will come either the commission's way or the department's way either by notices or training from incidents as we dig into these incidents. so i think

>> yeah. >> as they do the sidebar, david henderson is still with us. i wanted to ask you about something that almost immediately at the top of this eric nelson cross-examination -- i think they are back in. hang on a second. they are back. we will come right back to you, david. >> i am showing you what i believe is slide 39 of this. and i would ask permission to publish. this is the minneapolis police department training materials on dealing with large crowds. >> officers are taught that crowds are dynamic creatures. >> you would agree with that? >> in large crowds. >> but even if you have 10 or 12 crowds, crowds are dynamic. >> yes. >> and they can change suddenly, right? >> yes. >> just a second, your honor. and i agree that this deals with larger crowds and larger protests. >> yes, the training was for force. i am familiar with this training. >> officers may experience this training and taught never underestimate a crowd's potential. >> right. >> and, again, crowds being unique to the particular circumstances of a tirk case. >> yes. >> ultimately wh

civil rights attorney and former prosecutor david henderson.ctor of reshaping prosecution at the vera institute of justice, jami haud. welcome to the three of you. shaq, there have been reports that a member of the jury during today's proceedings fell asleep and that other jurors appear to be disinterested, perhaps distracted. give us a sense of what's happening in the courtroom today. >> yeah, geoff, this comes from our pool reporters. the two reporters who are inside the courtroom. remember, we're limited because of social distancing and the court's rules there. based on a pool report we got earlier today, we got a sense that some of the jurors have been paying attention and taking lots of notes but there was one juror in particular who the pool report says in the back row appeared to be sleeping. the other jurors seemed very attentive watching nelson and the lieutenant as they were going through and testifying. but when a graphic was shown on the screen about ground control and was put up on the screen, you saw one juror -- we saw all the ju

david henderson, answer eugene's question before i go to break. did it open the door, and if you were in the prosecution's shoes, would you bring up this case in cross-examination? >> first, chuck, i agree with the thoughts that eugene just expressed. i would love to see this come into evidence. i don't think they have opened the door sufficiently for kalil to allow it. cahill has been extremely cautious in rulings so far. nothing strikes the fear of god into a trial judge like the possibility of being reversed. he's already been reversed once. i think he's going to be cautious enough to not allow that in. the fact you have been sued isn't evidence of anything without some form of finding. i don't think we have enough to get there. >> as we learned in law school, you learn in law school, anybody can file a suit. anybody can get sued. the question is whether it's a legitimate lawsuit over time. shaquille brewster, as always, thank you for your hard work on the ground there, david henderson and eugene robinson, appreciate your perspective. >> we'll

director henderson mentioned, a more active role. there are some recommendations coming your way on active cases, so they do have an impact. i think our processes have improved over the last several years. there's collaboration on the [inaudible]. >> president cohen: when did that happen? do you recall? >> the incident happened in 2018, and by 2019, we had the training, and we put a large number of officers through that training, and the feedback from that officers is it's outstanding because they appreciate the training and how it helped them do their job. >> president cohen: so what about any -- any policy movement from 2019, 2020? we're just creeping into 2021, again, given the data that's been reflected and what has been presented? do you see any new ideas for policy coming through the pipeline? >> yeah. there was some -- [overlapping speakers] >> there are other things that i think will come either the commission's way or the department's way either by notices or training from incidents as we dig into these incidents. so i think

also with us, david henderson, a civil rights attorney and former prosecutor. professor burke halter, let me begin with you and the continuation, and i guess the final session of our analysis of testimony. basically we had dr. tobin come back onto the witness stand today to simply say that what they heard the day before from the defense doctor was just wrong. he couldn't have been more clear about that. what was your reaction to this short round of testimony today by dr. tobin? >> well, lawrence, my reaction was twofold. first, you know, you hit the nail right on the head. he was very clear. he was very direct. that's something we have not seen during the week. to a certain extent, witnesses being very clear, very direct. so that was the first to rebut this theory, the first purpose he served, to rebut this theory about this carbon monoxide poison, which kind of took us all by surprise. the second purpose he served, whether it was intended or not, was to, i guess, for better or worse remind the jury what a credible expert witness looked like. and i think that's

paul henderson, doctor, megan, thanks to you. you're sticking around as we wait for the trial to resume. >>> we're watching another story closely. that's florida congressman matt gaetz. he's saying he's planning on fighting back as investigators allege he was involved in sex trafficking. he's hired two attorneys to represent him. the team said matt has always been a fighter, a fighter for his constituents, a fighter for the country. he's going to fight back against the unfounded allegations against him. that statement comes as he's set to headline an event at one of former president trump's golf clubs and as one of his republican colleagues is calling on him to resign. joining us now is sahil gapour. republicans have been radio silent about this. where do you expect this to head next? >> reporter: we don't know the answer to that. is congressman kinzinger a canary in the coal mine? he's been more willing to buck his party and to specifically criticize the trump wing of his party. he was the first house republican to come out in f

for reasons that have already been mentioned, do we have with us, david henderson -- david henderson, i keep going back to this only because the journalist in me has seen this sort of thing for so long. i remember covering two separate police trials in two separate local markets where no one even thought of, wow, do you think the police chief's going to testify? it wasn't even a matter of thought, much less the reality of the police chief coming forward and saying, that cop did wrong. i suppose you could, as a group, try to throw anyone under the bus that you feel like, whether you think they're guilty or not. in this case the truth is obvious. but to do so is a new thing. and i can't really get away from it quite yet >> shep, i think you're right to cling to it. it's new, it's unexpected. i don't think anyone would have believed that would happen at the beginning of this trial. and more importantly, we're still waiting to see if it continues to happen in other trials moving forward. but part what was we have to be in finding the strength to improve ourselves and to improve our countr

you there, director paul henderson? good. why don't we talk a little bit about the 1421 report that you submitted to us. we'll start there. >> sure. i have my chief of staff on here, sarah hoffman who is prepared with that report and she has all the numbers in front of her. i have the members who might have questions about some of the stuff. ms. hawkins, are you here? this is awkward. [ laughter ] i was just texting her a second ago. hold on a second. sarah, are you there. i see her on the line. >> good evening. i had to switch computers. i had some audio issues, but i think i'm here. are we doing the 1421 report or the director's report? >> 1421. >> so what were the specific questions that you had? >> president cohen: we're just introducing it to see if you had any high level things you wanted to call our attention to. >> sure. a couple of things i wanted to note in terms of the rate at which we are closing files. we were -- excuse me. it was said that we only disclosed two files, but one of the files that we released was pa

you there, director paul henderson? good. why don't we talk a little bit about the 1421 report that you submitted to us. we'll start there. >> sure. i have my chief of staff on here, sarah hoffman who is prepared with that report and she has all the numbers in front of her. i have the members who might have questions about some of the stuff. ms. hawkins, are you here? this is awkward. [ laughter ] i was just texting her a second ago. hold on a second. sarah, are you there. i see her on the line. >> good evening. i had to switch computers. i had some audio issues, but i think i'm here. are we doing the 1421 report or the director's report? >> 1421. >> so what were the specific questions that you had? >> president cohen: we're just introducing it to see if you had any high level things you wanted to call our attention to. >> sure. a couple of things i wanted to note in terms of the rate at which we are closing files. we were -- excuse me. it was said that we only disclosed two files, but one of the files that we released was pa

back to david henderson now. you know the former chief medical examiner o asphyxia. you only need one juror as you've been telling me night after night. might he help the defense convince one juror >> you know, shep, if there's a lone wolf out there, this witness gave him or her something to hang their hat on so, yes. it's always difficult when you're trying to present a case on the theory that the jurors are going to do something that they're not supposed to do, and that's believe a cause that really hasn't been proven. but again, if you've got one on this jury -- and we know so little about them coming out of jury selection, then, yes, they've got something to hang their hat on. >> david, was this the key witness? i mean, where do they go from here >> i think for the defense this is the key witness but here's what you have to remember about a trial it's like you and i talking about something, shep, where i'm waiting for my chance to talk, and then when i start, i'm going to lead with what i believe is the strongest thing i have to say. for the defense in this case,

we'll get right into this topic as we bring in david henderson, civil rights attorney, former prosecutor and cnbc contributor. welcome back to the broadcast, david. let's get to this particular incident. bodycam video can only be released by court order, but is there no room for a level of discretion in a case like this. >> alex, of course, there is. you don't go to law school to avoid confrontation. we're seeing in all of these cases is a lack of leadership. people coming forward and saying, listen, we've had a number of concerns about policing across the country. we want to be open and up front about what's going on so here it is. you can tell from the rest of what's happened and officers resigning and officers being put on leave. the department knows that it's at fault here and that's why they're not releasing that video and to the extent that the law prevents it, it is specifically to protect the police in situations like this that doesn't help matters. >> so essentially the delay makes people more suspicious of law enforcement. >> and justifiably so. let's take a number of any numbe

some people expressing some concern about that you heard david henderson say that he felt some concern with regard to the judge's motivation and mindset in this case tonight right now these people just saying they're relieved there was a guilty verdict on all three counts they're relieved that their city is not engulfed in social unrest and it's not being policed and seeing police officers everywhere right now as you mentioned, a peaceful protest in the wake of the derek chauvin trial. back over to you. >> i always wonder because we're also insulated as a society. we live in groups of people like ourselves in many days i think back to rodney king and seeing the video of what happened there i think about the graphic testimony regarding so many along the way. and now people of all colors and socioeconomic groups have seen the reality of what does happen in america when black people meet police. and i wonder if we're not all going to be better for the knowledge, and if these scenes aren't something that says we're all on board with this as a real problem. and we've gotten just to there, t

shaquille brewster, david henderson and dr. vin gupta, i appreciate all three of you helping us unpack what we heard for the first half of today. we will, obviously, get back to the trial as soon as the lunch break is over. >>> in a few moments we're going to dive into the other big breaking news that took place today. you caught a glimpse of it, i believe. president biden's road guard announcement as we grapple with another major shooting in america, it's coming across almost a daily basis. authorities say five people, including two children, died as a result of a shooting yesterday in south carolina. the local sheriff's office say they found the person they believe is responsible. authorities are planning to hold a press briefing on the incident at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. we're aware there are other news reports out there with names of this person. we have not confirmed it at nbc news. we're still working on that. >>> the president referenced, by the way, the south carolina shooting this afternoon. while he called on congress

so they're trying to placate the public and convince people to go back home. >> david henderson, thanks very much >>> derek chauvin's defense team put their own medical examiner on the stand, a retired pathologist with decades of experiences and hundreds of appearances in court as an expert witness he testified heart disease and drugs led to george floyd's death and that derek chauvin's knee was nowhere near his airway >> how did the heart and drugs contribute to the cause of death? >> there were significant or they contributed to mr. floyd having a sudden cardiac arrest and speaking and making noise is very good evidence that the airway was not closed. >> the medical examiner who actually performed the autopsy on george floyd testified last week the knee and the pressure and his pinning into the ground caused his death gabe, the cross-examination was tense today. >> reporter: yeah that's right, shep the prosecution came out swinging during cross-examination. as you mentioned dr. david fowler was a former medical examiner in maryland and he testified that george floyd did not die becaus

. >>> david henderson now, a civil rights attorney, former prosecutor, cnbc contributor david, today the jury got to see the final moments of george floyd's life leading up to that deadly encounter with police what was the prosecution trying to accomplish by showing the jury all of that >> i think the prosecution is trying to make the jury feel what it felt to be there and witness what happened. we heard one of the best witnesses today, mr. mcmillan, who is a salt of the earth man, he's my kind of witness. he doesn't have a lot of education, but he has a high degree of what i call moral intelligence, and he really brought home for the jury what it felt like to watch george floyd die. that was the intent of calling witnesses like him. >> david, today i was watching when you told nicolle wallace on msnbc that the prosecution is making mistakes. what mistakes? >> there are a series of mistakes, but i can summarize them by saying this, you never want to create a david and goliath theme in a courtroom, unless you're david. for example, you have a large trial team you never have more than

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mary moriarti, paul henderson. mary, as i mentioned in the last break, dr. langenfeld is the doctor who pronounced george floyd dead. he walked us through what he remembered from that night. he talked about the information he received from the paramedics who brought floyd to the hospital. this is part of his testimony. >> what the paramedics told you when they brought in mr. floyd, did they also give you information when they brought mr. floyd in? >> they did. they essentially gave the report that i just told you, yes. >> did they say to you for purposes of caring or giving treatment to mr. floyd that they felt he had suffered a drug overdose? >> not in the information they gave, no. >> did they tell you in the information they gave that they felt that mr. floyd had had a heart attack? >> no. >> mary, that seemed significant to me. what did you make of that portion of his testimony? >> i think it's extremely significant, because you had the two paramedics who were the medical experts in the field handing off a patient who is in full cardiac arrest to the tre

shaquille brewster is covering it for us and he is outside of the courthouse, along with paul hendersonhayes. we talked a little bit with gabe for what we heard as it related to george floyd's friend and the fact that he is trying to plead the 5th. we also looked at what we're expecting in today's testimony. can you bring us up to speed on what the jurors have seen so far. they're invisible to all of us so far. we're watching the live stream of the testimony, the judge, the prosecution. we cannot see the faces of the jury. only people in the room including the pool reporters. so one or two max, i think just one reporter, right? they can go back to the rest of the team that is looking for information. what is your sense based on how they're reacting so far based on the remarkable testimony from yesterday with the police chief? >> yes, key moments in the courtroom, hallie. feel free to interrupt me if the judge comes back, but when you look at the reports, one for broadcast, one for print, when you look at the accounts from inside the courtroom there was a few moments that really seemed t

joining me now is gabe gutierrez in minneapolis, judy hodge and george henderson. gabe, you've been covering this trial since the very beginning. you were there in the hours and days after this happened in minneapolis about a year ago. today the defense almost was putting george floyd on trial, talking about his addiction, talking about the need to restrain him. i know you're not inside the courtroom because of the pandemic restrictions, but from the notes you're getting from the reporters who are there, how does that seem to be playing with the jury? >> reporter: well, katy, it is hard to tell exactly how it's playing because of covid restrictions, they're all wearing masks. but we did get a report about half an hour ago that talked about one of the jurors, when he was listening to courteney ross' testimony, actually furrowed his brow, put his hand in front of his face and was seemingly emotional. at another point in the testimony, the jurors were taking notes. also toward the end of her testimony when she described how in march, just two weeks -- excuse me, two w

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also with me former prosecutor and civil rights attorney david henderson, former prosecutor and nbc legal analyst paul butler. everybody, welcome. i just got to talk about that news conference we just had a moment ago, and try to figure out, megan, what the reaction was to it. because i think we can say that that was the most extraordinary news conference any of us have ever seen, especially after one of these events with the police chief coming out almost immediately showing this body cam footage and then taking all of those questions not just from journalists but from activists as well. >> yeah. katy, extraordinary is hitting the nail on the head. police wanted to release that video, he wanted the community to see what happened. as you mentioned, this was an accidental shooting, he says. this is a community already on edge and tensions just continue to rise. people frustrated, people are angry because another black man was killed at the hands of police. so this all happened yesterday from a traffic stop. and so the big question around town here is how does a traffic stop move into a per

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. >>> i'm joined by david henderson, a former prosecutor.about qualified immunity for folks who aren't familiar with the concept. i want to dig in deeper. based on conversations i have had with lawmakers, conversations with representatives from police unions, this seems to be the biggest of the sticking points, this qualified immunity. explain how it's used legally and why so many people view it as a critical part of any legislation on policing. >> craig, first and foremost, you are right, this is a sticking point. to put it in context, explain it this way. in the trial of derek chauvin, you have two types of cases that were filed. a case filed against derek chauvin in criminal court. you had a lawsuit against the city of minneapolis. qualified immunity applies to the lawsuit part of what happened here. basically, what it is is it is a legal doctrine that shields the police from liability when they violate someone's constitutional rights. i use the word doctrine because it's not in the constitution if you read every federal statute, you won'

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let's bring the attorney al brown -- >> we'll bring our own attorneys in david henderson is with us there is a celebration in the moment but there are three other officers who faced charges in this case. i believe you said it was built as something of a pyramid and without convictions here, that would have been more difficult but now it would appear come august we have more trials to go through. >> shep, that's right. the only consideration here is whether or not the other three officers may consider to try to arrange a plea bargain in light of what happened to derek chauvin. you have to remember again, this is a historic verdict. we don't normally see verdicts like this when police officers commit the atrocities derek chauvin did. seeing him be convicted may change the other three officers. >> reverend sharpton is about to speak. let's listen live. >> say his name! >> george floyd! >> say his name! >> george floyd! >> say his name! >> george floyd! >> say his name! >> george floyd! >> say his name! >> george flood! >> say his name! >> george flioyd! >> say his name! >> george floyd. >> s

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. >> i'm joined now by civil rights attorney david henderson.for being here. >> thanks for having me, ari. >> absolutely. when we cover trials, we don't issue verdicts in advance. we cover the evidence, and we wait for the verdict. this testimony today seemed like the kind of thing that could make you angry and see how a jury might be leaning towards the prosecution side of the case, because boy did it paint a medically evidentiarily supported negative view of defendant chauvin. your analysis? >> yeah. dr. tobin did so many things right, it is difficult to know exactly where to begin. the one thing i will point out is he said he's testified 50 times before, and that definitely showed. everything you want your witness to be. he's good at teaching. he's polite. they have professional visual aids and he even has a cool accent. details like that never hurt because trial is theater. he did this pro bono. an expert like him normally costs $700. i thought the way he testified was bulletproof except he did such a good job of clarifying that four factors

south carolina had destiny, her name, destiny henderson. a3-three with 40 seconds, and they let it 65-66. missed layup. haley jones, right place, right time. she had and they were up one. jones at 24, 10 seconds left. turn it over. south carolina chance to win it. drove. missed. aaliyah boston, point blank, and she missed. stanford survived it, one and 66, 65, look at the emotion. for the emotion or for the first time, they are in sunday's championship game against either connecticut, or arizona. >> they did have to good looks and this is one of those surviving in advance, and it was not a pretty game for us. he was very hectic but we knew we had to get back into everything we could, so we left it out there and luckily it paid off. >> all right, baseball, here is the stadium in atlanta. major the respondent announced friday that they are moving this year's all-star game from this site, in response to georgia's new law that restricts voting access. baseball will announce a new host city for the game soon. it is that time of year again. ready

has told you a fan they can't block the launch of a new european seat leg and liverpool's jordan henderson has called an emergency meeting with his valet primarily captains to discuss the controversial plans. to the news are one of africa's longest serving leaders chad's president idriss deby has been killed the army says he died after sustaining injuries while leading soldiers on the front lines where his forces have been fighting rebels a state funeral will be held on friday. the army is swiftly in a general mamma will take on the role of interim head of state though his death comes just a day after he won a 6th term as president chants forces have been battling the front for change in concord a rebel group since 2016 which wants to overthrow the government and give what it says power back to the people the military has known posed a nationwide curfew and closed its borders gave me begins our coverage. this was chad's president idriss deby campaigning last week provisional election results indicated he'd won a 6th term in office the devil had reportedly joined his son and other soldiers

thank you so much for your time tonight, david henderson. that is "all in" on this friday night. chris hayes will be back on monday. i will be back on msnbc live this sunday 8:00 p.m., with my own show, my guest will be bernie sanders. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> i hope you have a provision where you get base pay and over a certain number of hours, you get paid by the hour. >> just sleep. >> you have done the work -- >> i just need to sleep. all i need is sleep. >> i give you my sleep coupons for the weekend, my friend. fantastic job. i cannot wait to see your show this weekend. >> thank you. >>> all right, so seems we are having technical difficulties, we will get back to rachel when

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that's expected to be the tone as they move forward >> jay gray, thank you >>> david henderson now, civil rights attorney, former prosecutor, cnbc contributor david, derek chauvin's former police supervisor testified that he should have ended restraint after floyd stopped resisting. how big of an impact will that moment have on the outcome of this trial >> shep, that's going to have a huge impact on the outcome of the trial, and not just because of what he said but because of who said it. this is kind of like the family rule i can say things about my family you can't say things about my family the police can say things about the police that other people can't, so it's not just what was said, but who said it. >> and an emt said that the cops were still on top of george floyd while they were checking his pulse, and that officers just wouldn't remove themselves. you wonder how the defense is going to deal with that? >> despite everything that's been said so far, shep, that's the most important testimony so far. and when this trial is all said and done, i think that the second emt that you he

david henderson, let's get your thoughts on what's just happened and what it all means. >> i'm going to start by saying this, today is the 150th anniversary of ku klux klan act of 1871 known as 42 usc section 983 it's the law that protects us from abuse by government officials including police officers when they violate our constitutional rights. i can't think of a more appropriately historic day or historic verdict than what we just received. i can provide a legal analysis on what this verdict of con conviction means on all three counts, will fundamentally change policing in america part of what needed to be proved -- a police officer established a clearly-established law. when you have police chief getting on the stand on national standard talking about what standards are and are not appropriate in a case police officer is convicted, historic verdict that will lead to fundamental changes across the country. >> what do you see happening across the country it's clear cities across america were very concerned. there were so many who were pushing for equal justice who were concerned no

it's reasonable to believe the jurors will respond differently in the courtroom as well >> david henderson, thanks so much the trial continues tomorrow, updates from the courtroom at nbcnews.com. >>> covid watch, want a vaccine for your child or grandchild great news today, pfizer announcing its vaccine is both safe and, get this, 100% effective in kids 12 to 15 years. you don't hear that much in recent clinical trials, the company reports it found no symptomatic infections and no serious side effects among kids who received the shot. pfizer's ceo says the company e fda as he puts it, plans to submit its data to the fda as he puts it, as soon as possible he says they'll also request an amendment to its emergency use authorization to include everyone 12 and older. the findings haven't been peer reviewed, but if they hold, kids in that age group could start getting shots later this year. health experts say vaccinating younger americans is a critical step toward reaching herd immunity and ending this pandemic dr. peter hotez now, co-director for the center for vaccine development at texas chi

destiny henderson is her name. oh. living up to her name. cops a one point lead. next position. lexi hall. miss. haley jones. and stanford retakes the lead. now, 10 seconds left. cardinal up one. cameron brate turned it over. brea bill drove in, missed, and then only up boston missed the tip in at the buzzer and stanford won the game 66-65 in san antonio. kiana williams hometown, they advanced is on days national championship. poor boston. in fact, boston and haley jones are best friends. they text each other every day but you see the raw emotion there on the side of destiny boston and south carolina. 66-65 a win for stanford, in the championship game for the first time since 2010, and fitting for, who today was named the coach of the year. >> that goes without saying, no question. >> that was some work today. good for them. >> came down to the last shot. great game. >>> in the meantime, more than 10,000 a's fans were back in the ball park last night. they were excited to be there for sure but the overall experience had a few little glitches. new safety measures means that fans

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paul henderson, dr. julia melinek, appreciate your time. thanks. >>> now, a look at today's other big headlines, including this breaking news. new reporting from the associated press is shedding light on the timeline of the january 6th capitol hill riots, including vice president mike pence, who, in an urgent phone call to the acting defense secretary, reportedly demanded to, quote, clear the capitol. a spokesman for former vice president mike pence declined to offer comment to nbc news on that reporting. the a.p. also writing that elsewhere in the building, senate majority leader chuck schumer and house speaker nancy pelosi were making a similarly dire appeal to military leaders, asking the army to deploy the national guard. schumer saying, quote, we need help. the associated press citing a previously undisclosed document prepared by the pentagon for internal use that was obtained by the a.p. and vetted by current and former government officials. >>> also new today, congressman matt gaetz on defense as the federal probe against the florida

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