and henry kissinger has an excellent piece in today's washington post about this very thing it's completely ignored the very special and the over the cream as a state and i think the e.p.a. has been far too aggressive the idea of economic sanctions and so forth is simply silly and as we saw and heard from the earlier the enormous economic interests of germany france britain would really preclude economic sanctions while the crisis in ukraine and the way its coverage is affecting the situation right after the break stay with us. the first issue that this government this interim government preoccupied itself which was the future of the russian language in ukraine and at a time when. the country's. government was prepared to take. you know what appears to. many people at least in the west let's say

>> i would suggest, i'm a big admirer of henry kissinger but there's another view represented by bob gates. including president obama. owe feels that what we have too do not only understand them but make them understand us. and that comes to action not just speeches. we need strategic game that shows putin over the long term, russia will suffer and he may be there for ten more years. that he will suffer. and gates' view you have to stand up to him now. my personal view is, i thought the president would make a surprise visit to kiev this week, just seemed to me that would rally people of ukraine, know that the americans were with them just as john kennedy and ronald reagan did in berlin. show putin we're not patties just to negotiate a way for you to get off ramp keep crimea. >> wouldn't there be a risk given that putin has suggested it's the west and u.s. that have inspired what happened in ukraine if the president showed up there would it be -- >> i think it's really important to understand the mind of dictators but you have to show them what you got, what you're holding, what you'r

henry kissinger has a good rid that good relation with vladimir putin. they talk on the phone and they visit. -- henry kissinger has a good relationship with vladimir putin. how would you describe the relationship? >> i am not in the position. mutual intellectual respect. >> here's what he said about vladimir putin's response. >> i think putin undoubtedly interpreted the demonstrations when it -- in kiev started when yanukovych was moving and instigated and supported by the rest. >> no doubt he believes that? >> no question he believes that. >> that we were behind it? >> no question. and he probably believes the high point and connection within a deliberatewas attempt to humiliate him. >> after the success of the olympics? olympics paralyze him. he cannot participate in the crisis. he probably overreacted. >> you do not think he overreacted? >> i think we did what we need to do under those circumstance in the crimea. >> the other big question is at the beginning of the new cold war between russia and the united states. >> first of all, we need to recall

nobel peace laureate henry kissinger says they are going about it all wrong. in "the washington post," he wrote the ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown. whether ukraine joins the east or the west. ukraine must not be either side, it should function as a bridge. he spoke to charlie rose last night about russia's moves. >> russia is no longer very strong. no longer in a position to threaten its neighboring countries. he is conducting a policy in which he is both authoritative and defensive at the same time. no russian i have ever met has found it easy or possible to consider ukraine a separate country. it was part of russia for 300 years. the history of ukraine and russia have been intertwined for several hundred years before that. the evolution of ukraine is a matter that moves. >> watch the full interview of henry kissinger tonight on charlie rose at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern. president obama not taking his foot off the gas. he ordered assets frozen and u.s. visas blocked for people engaged in corruption in ukraine. stay tuned. israel's prime minister doi

and when the trial took place henry kissinger had to testify your only the second time he had ever testifiedpublicly and a quarter but the other time that something do with his wife some other unrelated issue. and kissinger had to take the stand. and there's hersh the defendant and kissinger has to take the stand. and the first thing he says in that wonderful german accent of his is i really would have preferred to never see this man a gift for the rest of my life. but here i am. hersh actually won that lawsuit. it was dismissed. >> could you please tell us about, correct me if i'm wrong i think seymour hersh said about a year ago that the bin laden rate was faked. give any information on that? >> he didn't say it was faked it would if it was it was overly trumped up by the obama administration, and there's a lot that we don't know about exactly what happened. that came in the context of a speech he was giving about obama. i do know that this will be a chapter or something like it in the book that he has coming out. so that was coming actually went back on that. he didn't say that certainly

henry kissinger wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" today.est, the demonization of putin is not a policy, it is the alibi for the absence of one. suggesting we are sheep in finding this anti-russian rhetoric instead of focusing on crafting real foreign policy. what is your thought about that? >> i mean, my thoughts about that is that we had one. it was called the reset. most people think it was this naive policy that we look everything, we're friends with the russians. actually, it was a more real poll teak policy. it was that we decouple the things we don't like like human rights violations and the kind of fuzzy wuzzy stuff from the geopolitical, geostrategic goals like the northern transit route into afghanistan, like dealing with potentially a nuclear iran, thing like that. the problem is the russians are the ones who derailed it. this stuff about vilifying russia does not come from the west. the person who broke that was vladimir putin. this anti-americanism, anti-western rhetoric has been a cornerstone of his third term. it is the way he

there is still henry kissinger as well. they still get called on the shows. they write their op-eds. and they keep going on. and i really think dick cheney won't be satisfied until he has shoved barack obama into a war, maybe as disastrous as the one dick cheney and george w. bush gave us. but the notion while the president is involved in a very challenging diplomatic position, for him to come out there and say we should give troops and support military support to ukraine when ukraine hasn't even asked for it strikes me as being completely reckless and irresponsible. >> i just love that bonding he does. well, you know, charles, as we know, charles, we're all in this together. we're all wise men. we know how these things work, don't we, young men? it's always that same avuncular fashion. it is oily. anyway, this weekend, ted cruz blasted the president for his weakness, as he put it. and he joined senator lindsey graham in linking the events in ukraine to guess what else? we can't say bingo, so benghazi. it's all about benghazi. >> a critical reason for putin's

. >> rose: i want you to see several people at this table, people that you respect, henry kissinger has a very good relationship with vladmir putin, correct. they talk on the phone, he visits the president when he's in moscow, yes. >> yes. >> rose: how would you define the relationship. >> well i'm not in the position. the relationship of mutual intellectual respect. >> rose: here's what he said on this program about president putin's reaction. >> i think that putin undoubtedly interprets the demonstrators to pledge in kiev that started when yanukovych was moving towards russia as instigated by the west and supported by the west. >> rose: no doubt he believes that. >> i have no question that he believes that. >> rose: that somehow w were behind the west and europe, u.s. and europe. >> i have no question that he believes that. and i think he probably believes that having the high nt that's reached in connection with the olympics was a deliberate attempt to humiliate him. >> rose: after the success of the olympics. >> the olympics paralyzed him. he couldn't participate in the crises. so h

we continue our coverage of the crises in ukraine with former secretary of state henri henry s kissinger. >> i tried my utmost to prevent when i was working from talking on the phone from the middle of the pledges with the head of state of another country even more adversarial country because to become president of any country you must have a highly developed ego. when you put egos into confrontation with each other, and if there's no agreement, to whom can you appeal. i think really as a treadmill rule as diplomacy, heads of government should not encounter each other unless they have defined ahead of time what the parameters are. unless it's just a general philosophical meeting. >> rose: we conclude this meeting with james patterson. he holds the guinness world record on the "new york times" for best seller lists. >> as we known them will never be the same. it's all changing, the publishers, it's changing. publishers are being threatened. american literature. i mean, we need publishers right now. we need good publishers, we need good editors or they're not going to find the next one, th

you think of henry kissinger and diplomacy.mestic and then look out through our export business? why did you choose to go domestic? >> the biggest threat to the united states is nothing in the world. it is our own underperformance here at home. our inability to grow our economy and eel with our economic challenges. we would be able to discourage the emergence of an international arrival. happens out that what domestically is just as critical to our national security as anything that happens out of the state department. i don't mean that. i think it is an important issue. >> if washington can get it together. will talk about the tensions in crimea with richard haass. ♪ >> this is "lumbar surveillance. -- "bloomberg surveillance." let's get you some company news. we start with ibm. the ceo says the company came up short in 2013. in a letter to investors, she said they did not meet expectations. ibm stock is the only loser in the down jones industrial last year. do you want to build apps? google will develop a software developer k

. >> henry kissinger was here last night. he said it was not a bad thing. if we do not assume those troops are disappearing, russia does not have to look like a defeat for them. >> i think -- two different points. it may provide an easier way for them to back off because they are not identify and they have not claimed them as russian troops even though putin came close to doing that in the press conference. i would describe how dangerous it is because you can imagine young soldiers who are faced off like that, you can imagine an accident or miscalculation or emotional action where somebody gets killed and we have a really serious situation. it is important to try and get it to a set of understandings here as quickly as possible. the only thing is to reassure our nato partners. and we need to put in place where we begun it now sanctions and pressure on the russian government. the discussion has been we do not have a lot of leverage. that is not true. putin, his foreign-policy, is a foreign-policy of unique russian stance in the world. reestablishes a major p

we have henry kissinger weigh in on this in "the washington post." let's step back this confrontation. ukraine should be a bridge between east and west. he is calling for diplomatic resolution. he is hoping that cooler heads will prevail. >> thank you so much. time for some company news. for vendee's sfr unit valued at 14.5 billion euros. cracking down on illegal gun sales. facebook will delete posts that break the law. sk is trying to break a monopoly with spacex. executive says mercedes is not making cars fast enough. that signals a healthy turn. he showed off the company's revamped s class. it is full of technology. >> this is mercedes-benz new s-calass. they believe it is the new future of motoring. many functions can be controlled by your cell phone. it even drives on the freeway autonomously. said it wouldu drive completely hands-free if the law allowed it. >> it keeps track automatically. you just have to touch the steering well every 10 seconds. that is a legislation issue. >> you can preheat the car from your phone, check the fuel level, and

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he is in the oval office with gerald ford, henry kissinger. what did you learn? his answer -- some things work out. some things don't. that didn't. vietnam asook at unnecessary, a terrible mistake that cost the lives of 58,000 americans and millions of people in southeast asia. , i don't know how history is going to view any of us. my guess is that we will see this recent episode in american history, maybe not exactly the same but in a similar way. tavis: as hopelessly inarticulate as i have been tonight, -- >> you have been fine. tavis: as inarticulate as i have been, i do think that it is worth you seeing. you will determine whether or not you come away with the same blank stare that i did. "the unknown known" in theaters april 2 in los angeles and new york. then it rolls out across the country. i want to make sure i get a copy of this to put in my library. maybe in five years i will get what i didn't get the first time. >> by the way, i hate to contradict you but i think you did get it. tavis: if you say so. [laughter] good to see you. coming up, a conversatio

a piece called camera and the work is videoed and i document finding myself at an event with henry kissinger. i think with the way technology change youred our lives, obviously people are documenting everything all the time. what he has lost, and someone asks is why we document. when you document everything, i think in some ways you get people walking around the museum taking pictures of painting of sculptures, delaying the experience, looking at the works of art. when people come to the museum and sees my shows, i think history is created in archives. it shows the beautiful has come, and it's me in a museum in berlin, housing the busk as well as me walking through an abandoned building and sort of marrying the two images together. i hope people think of the work, will think of how we choose to preserve certain things, and let other things fall into ruin. >> now let's take a listen to a chicago artist about his elections to the show. >> i'm an artist who works with papier-mÂchÉ and leather. they are not even possible objects, really, in the real sworld. they are a kind of like how we might v

just demnizing henry kissinger said in his excellent op-ed is not a strategy.ust a couple more comments. vladimir putin doesn't know the colin powell rule. if you break it, you own it, and if he breaks up crimea he's going to own their pension liabilities, their tanked economy at a time when the russian economy is stretched, and i don't think it matters if he's living in the 19th century or the 14th century, he is living in a networked world, and his stock market has tanked $13 billion. it's true, international firms, a lot of them, pepsico and john deere and oh, have huge economic stakes in russia, but i bet they are having board meetings and coming up with plan "b" and let's not forget the gas exports from the united states. if we can extract that safely and consistent with environmental goals, we should be exporting it to europe, and we should take out their dependence on russia, and so i think vladimir putin may have a short-term strategy in the 21st century, but he sure hasn't got a medium or long-term strategy in the 21st century. >> senator santorum, do

c-span: robert pierpoint, helen thomas and henry kissinger-- where was this picture taken? >> guest: this was on air force one. you were selected, if you were a member of the press, to go on air force one if you were in good stead and you had the--your turn came up. if you did anything negatively during the nixon administration, you did not get on another air force one trip right away, if ever. but while you're on there, the president would have his key aides on board with him because they would be going from place to place. and so they would come back, and the press would have opportunities to have these behind-the-scenes insights into matters that they would not know about otherwise. c-span: on the next page--and i'm going to move it over so that we can see it--is a photograph you took from an airplane. what kind of an airplane? >> guest: this was on the president's--the presidential helicopter. i had photographed president nixon at san clemente, and he had asked me at the time if there was anything else--how the book project was going and what else he might do to help me

in the clip, president obama i thought was trying to do something that i just heard henry kissinger in a private gathering at yale say, that it's crucial for statesmen to try to see the world as their adversaries see it. and in that comment about deeply held grievance that motivates putin, i thought obama was trying to do. that the trick is to understand your advera terry but maintain your -- behave in responsible way. i think that little tease that putin watched it he would say here is american president trying to understand the way i see the world. >> schieffer: if he reacts to things the way we in the west react we don't know. but at least they're talking. we'll see what happens. we'll come back to this, david. we're going to be back in one minute on a totally different subject, mark emmert the president of the ncaa the ruling body of college athletics going to be here to talk about what could be a ground breaking ruling for college sports. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics ind

the eu in college to fully support the team because that's the way to stabilize the cream into henry kissinger has an excellent piece in today's washington post a pic if they think it's completely cool. they especially need to go with the cream as a state can be the positions be fun to dress a day giving contentions and so forth is simply silly and has been so helpful that way the enormous economic interests of gemini fronts quickly the precludes economic sanctions. on the crisis in ukraine and the way its cover issues affecting the situation right after the break stay with us. aah. eye. rest assured that these government is ensuring government to help my self with lots and the future of the russian language back in ukraine and that's at a time when i saw from the countries in cannes that's so to show you that to say that government was the beds the issue is you know what it was a not too many people at least i'm in the west. let's take a disproportionate use of force on the de facto occupation of crimea. most of total attention. you can't well it's different. boss repeats the same old job. of

breach and abilene that sense it is not that he's published yesterday by former secretary of state henry kissinger. in that piece called how in the ukraine faces and hands. kissinger called out both moscow and washington for failing to trying to bridge the gap between the east in the last he said. far too often ukrainian nation this post as a showdown. but if ukraine is to survive and thrive and must not be either side. i'll post against the other it should function as a bridge between then. dettori ukraine as part of an east west confrontation would scuttle for decades. any prospect any prospect to bring russia and the west especially russia and europe and to cooperate in international system. and the c i a e inspector general's office has asked the justice department to investigate allegations of malfeasance at the spy agency this is all regarding the forthcoming senate intelligence committee report that outlines the cit side tends to keeping details of the detention and interrogation program under wraps. according to recent reports biden york times and mcclatchy newspapers the inspectors probe

former secretary of state henry kissinger giving some council to world leaders about examine outcomes not competing in posturing in midst of the crisis. he wrote in washington post that both sides must agree that ukraine should have the right to choose freely, its economic and politicals so yeah, isss sos soization -- association, and ukraine should not join nato, it is income pat abwith rules of existing world order for russia to an ex crimeiasm former secretary of state said that russia needs to recognize ukraine sovereignty over crimea, and -- in elections held in the present of international observers. joining us now. former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. william taylor, vice president for middle east and africa at u.s. institute of peace, good to have you with us ambassador, and lieutenant colonel oliver north. ambassador we start with issue that president raised on constitutionality of the referendum vote, why is there so much focus on this language, and the debate, it is up to, it seems to me, president putin who he does, and the motivations are going to be his own. what is the po

>> henry kissinger set what you are seeing and said you have to respect that ukraine's relationship withussia, it ought to be a transition between europe and asia. that may be the solution >> the point i'm trying to make, i have known for a long time that crimea was a special place that sticks out into the black sea. >> let me talk about the middle east. the negotiations that kerry -- do you know what his framework is? >> he has gotten my advice. >> he sought your advice? >> i didn't say that. i sent e-mails. >> tell me what you say to him in your e-mails. >> i tell him to be equally between the two. the last thing i told him, which is predictable, don't violate international law. the laws that applied at camp david agreements, that don't violate the peace treaty, that don't violate what nixon and kissinger and brezinski and i, and george w. bush, have all pursued. don't violate the international law. all the nations in the world have agreed with the basic laws that prevails from unopposed u.n. resolutions. there are some that ought not be violated. i think that the 1967 borders are basi

. >> henry kissinger, the late patrick moynahan. i have written two jokes.now we are supposed to make fun of these people, but couldn't zach efron use a hit? >> aren't you going to read the jokes? >> you are stealing my spotlight . >> and we are out of time. >> who is bragging about sleeping with wilbur valderama? what is this 2003? >> gutted -- good one. >> by the way she lost her virginity to valderama. it is a common fact. that's what he did in hollywood was de flower the start lets. and look what that did to his career. she filled up the list easily. >> we should point out this is unrest in lohan and let's stop saying she accidentally left the list at the bar. oh look what accidently left my hand and left at the bar. and let's be honest this is the list she remembers. the actual list has to be 10 times. >> members of congress, exotic animals. >> could be daniel patrick moynahan. >> no, he was a great man. he would never stoop to such levels. >> she is at a bar. >> maybe she is turning over a new leaf in re-- in rehab. >> this happened in january of 2013.

henry kissinger, former secretary of state and national security advisor for resident nick seven. how many hours do you think you have spent with vladimir putin? >> alone or with a small group. >> i would say 30 hours. maybe more. books is toour know that you look at individuals and how they understand power and the forces that have shaped them. tell me about vladimir putin. >> first of all, let me say i agree with what i just heard. from secretary kerry. i think the latest move of putin is one that goes beyond accepted norms. of -- what i think is my impression of putin -- he is a man who believes that the disintegration of the soviet union was sort of a catastrophe for russia. russiawants to restore to a traditional position, which means a great power. , he realizeshand that this is a different world that one than the one studies in history books. longer very strong. it is no longer in the position to threaten all of its major neighboring countries. so he is conducting a policy in which he is both assertive and defensive at the same time. >> so he moved into crimea but then he s

. >> i want to put in context the conversation i had with henry kissinger. here is what he said. to. don't think he intends , the firstroblem problem is, no russian i have ever met finds it easier ukraine ao consider separate country. it was part of russia for 300 years. they have intertwined for several hundred years before that. so, the evolution of the ukraine moves.tter that it dissonances from the communist system. >> it belongs to russia? >> it probably should be part of the same country. tothe minimum, they wanted be in the russian sphere of influence. can theestion is, ukraine have it both ways? can they have a relationship with the west, and have a special relationship with russia? >> they can. that has to be the goal of western policy. to make the ukraine a civil society at the same time that russia is assured of a stable and special relationship with the ukraine. first of all, crimea is ethnic russian. it is pro-russian. it is essentially part of russia. this annexation formalized what were the facts on the ground. there is no way russia is going .o give up crimea as i

and i give it a 40 percent chance that karzai and the people in trouble pole and henry kissinger. if you recall secretary kissinger brunt -- receive the nobel peace prize for solving the war in vietnam. there will be some sort of messy deal between the taliban, that pakistan is, and the afghans that will cause all this to scratch our heads and say why did we lose all those troops and all that treasure for ten years for that and results? which is another way of saying i don't know what's gonna happen. >> of like to ask you a question about drawn attacks. it was in the book lessons and disasters, they talk about the bombing in north vietnam was intended to soften until their resolve. and from what i understand postwar interviews with north vietnamese found that it didn't do that. steal their resolve and really i know these drone attacks are controlled by bill gates wannabes in california with their joysticks'. now if i had a family member killed by a drawer attack controlled by bill gates one of the 10,000 miles away i would be enormously upset. my question is what is the impact of

. >> like pollyanna, john wayne and henry kissinger in the same month. what is he required to be now? >> he has acted in those ways because he is reflecting, i think, the feeling of the american people. there is a deep ambivalence in getting involved in a place like syria which can only be resolved, in my view, with the boots on the ground down someone monopolizing the use of force there. no easy way to come in from behind and i think americans are deeply wary of getting involved in a place like that. in crimea, you have a peninsula that was part of the soviet given away essentially in 1954 to ukraine where the people there speak russian and want to be part of russia. the question really is how deeply are you going to get involved in trying to reverse that? what are our interests there? our interests are rather limited. the responses measured to interests. i do not buy this manifest weakness. ronald reagan said it would not for hisd record behavior. george w. bush did not go to war to reverse his intervention in georgia. a lot of this is drive-by critici

. >> henry kissinger was here last night. he has an op-ed. it appeared in "the washington post." he makes these 4 points. point number one, ukraine should have the right to choose associations included with europe. everybody would agree with that. >> absolutely. that is the key point. what europeans have been making. exclusivet have to be with us. you cannot call a ukraine to have specific agreements with you. >> ukraine should not join nato, a position kissinger took seven years ago. do you agree? >> we are well short of that at this point. i think i saw polling at the time when it was considered for the majority of ukrainians did not want to join nato. >> you cry should be free to great that ukraine should be free trade and government compatible with its people between various parts of the country and internationally they should pursue a comparable government to finland. respect to finland, that is the point about having a relationship going in either direction which is perfectly appropriate. >> it is incompatible with symbols of existing rule but it should be possible to put c

. >> host: you refer to henry kissinger and brent scowcroft in your book and then you have the more generalthe partnership in the united states it certainly doesn't share the value of saudi arabia but it's considered one of life. and i remember very vividly it was still quite small but still remember the vice president richard nixon appearing with the soviet leader and there were interesting exchanges. mr. prime minister, i understand that you believe that americans are going to live under what khrushchev stated and he said this is fine as long as we accept the system and we will not write to change them so this is 59 and here we are in 2013 and now sometimes you get the impression that require other countries to move closer towards our political system and beliefs. to what extent it is a problem in the relationship and that this administration had the right mix of the interest in human rights or would you prefer to hear differently? >> host: this has been in the relations. to the question of saudi arabia let me say of course they would always say that there are double standards that we cri

look at what henry kissinger wrote. it was one of the great things he ever said.demonization of putin is not policy. it is an alibi for not having a policy. >> steve, do you want to respond to that, and then i will come back to how you see putin and how steve cohen things you see putin? >> i do not think i should be the subject of this discussion. i am happier to make putin the subject of the conversation. i think putin had every opportunity to respond to the change of government in ukraine in a way that kept passions calm, that created an opportunity for multiple interests to be served, and to avoid a crisis. without demonizing him, i think you can say that every step of the way since then, his actions have escalated the crisis, have created anxieties within russia, within ukraine, and among ukraine's neighbors and throughout europe. the fact that he has gained some popularity at home, to my mind, is not a real justification for deeply irresponsible policy. if steve wants to say that whipping up the russian public makes what he says true, fine. but really, read t

piece called camera, the work is a video in which i document finding myself at an event with henry kissinger think with the way technology has you know changed our lives, obviously people are documenting everything all the time. what we have sort of lost i think in some way is why we document. when you can document everything i think in some ways you get people walking around the museum taking pictures of paintings and sculptures and perhaps delaying the experience of actually looking at those works of art. when people come to the museum and see the shows, see my work, i hope they think about how history has created an archive. the whitney also chose a video called the beautiful one has come and it is me in a museum in berlin that is housing the nefertiti bust and me walking through an abandoned building and sort of marryin marrying tho images together. i hope people will look at how we choose to preserve some things and let other things fall to ruin. >> i'm carol jackson. an artist who works with paper mache and leather. they are not even possible in the real world but how we might view the

, seek some help from wise people, and bring together the condoleezza rices of the world and henry kissingers and have a serious conversation about what it would be like in russia today if putin were to try to go back to the empire days and how should we address it? i don't think this is an easy problem to try to solve. >> right. >> and clearly we don't want to have to go to world war iii over it. >> i understand. and also in fairness of president bush, in this peter baker story -- and i think peter baker is a very good reporter -- president bush calls him cold-blooded and i think that's colder to the truth. i think president obama has learned that. maybe you have to learn it the hard way. i don't know how it works. i'm not a foreign policy specialist. an andy carr, we were talking about financial sanctions which i think is the most immediate way to discipline russia. question for you, do you suppose london and germany, which has so many businesses in russia, do you think they will go along with tough sanctions? >> you know, i don't. i don't think they have the wherewithal to be as tough as t

that was with henry kissinger, right? clicks yes. >> and he holds the medal of freedom from 1993. queen elizabeth made him an honorary knight of the british empire. and rogercohen has been a foreign correspondent of the "new york times" for more than a decade. he now writes a column for the times. he is an author of several books on foreign policy and also a biography of norman schwarzkopf. it is hard to know where to start this discussion, but let me just start the discussion. is this the new cold war? why don't we start with you, dr. brezinski. >> obviously, we don't know for sure, but it is beginning to look that way. it may not end up that way, but it is beginning to look that way. in fact, if i could just take two minutes, i would like to do something in which probably most of the people have not -- most of the people here have not done, namely, sites and experts from putin's speech. it is worth reading the speech in full. it is what he says about ukraine more generally. in that speech he says, among other things, at ukraine -- let me get my clippings here. he says that ukrai