it was part rain for herbert hoover. he and his wife rode in an open car. john f. kennedy had a blizzard the night before his inauguration. students came out to help shovel snow so they could have a parade the next day. people who want to kennedy's inauguration, the first thing they talk about is the weather that day. what about the vice president? it used to be there was a tradition that the vice- president got his own inauguration. when the congress and presidents to use to begin their terms on march 4, the first thing that would happen is the house and senate would me to swear in their new members. the first thing they had to do was swear in the vice president. presidents of united states used to go to the senate chamber to watch their vice president be sworn in. the senate is to give the vice- president a chance to deliver his own inaugural address. i am sure joe biden would love to have that opportunity. it did not always work out well for vice presidents. in 1865, lincoln's second term, that magnificent speech, healing speech -- his vice president was andrew

william howard taft, who was a distinguished chief justice, swore in herbert hoover in 1929, and thaty was carried over the radio, and a little girl wrote in to justice taft and said you got the words wrong. that is not the order of the words. he wrote back and said i am sure that i got them right here at -- right. they played the tape, and found that he had reversed some of the words. the fact of the matter is it does not make a difference if the chief justice skips a word, or gets a word out of order. as i mentioned, the presidency in the 19th century, and even herbert hoover just said "i do ," and that is certainly appropriate as well. we moved down to washington, dc, where the first inauguration is taking place, and there is a change of party for the first time, from the federalists, who were more formal, to the new republicans, jeffersonian republicans, or the democratic republicans, who felt more than they were the party of the people. thomas jefferson was being inaugurated, and he did not want a lot of for the role with his inauguration. he stripped away a lot of the formalitie

good newspaper, reports that the herbert hoover presidential library association in iowa says hoover i do after the oath was read to him. these things matter. if you have a political trivia question for us, e-mail us. [ male announcer ] what!!?? a typical family pays $155,000 in "wall street" fees on their 401(k)s? go to e-trade. and roll over your old 401(k)s to a new e-trade retirement account. none of them charge annual fees, and all of them offer low cost investments. e-trade. less for us. more for you. >>> let's bring back our gaggle for the lightning round. nia, kristen and stephanie. stephanie, joe biden goes to the iowa state ball, has new hampshire representatives and is being very joe biden during the parade yesterday, shaking hands, doing his joe biden thing. one or two words. does he run for president in 2016 or not? >> i think we all wait for hillary clinton to make a decision first. >> kristen? >> i agree. the numbers are good for hillary clinton. >> i agree. >> which must pain him greatly. >> waiting on hillary. plugs? >> jodi cantor, who has been doing great work on t

>> i think he's another herbert hoover type and it's bad because he doesn't understand growth, growthrowth comes from freedom, not from an ever larger government and from cheapening the dollar. you never get sustained growth by trashing your money. and i don't think he gets that at all. >> all right. we're going to have to leave it there. thank you, gentlemen. steve forbes, thank you. >>> meanwhile, president obama's new cabinet appointees are starting to show a major shift to the left. that's my view. okay? let's start with chuck hagel replacing leon panetta. i fear hagel is going to dismantle the whole department of defense. we're talking about jack lew who is certainly further to the left of tim geithner. mr. lew is a government lifer. and john kerry well to the left of hillary clinton who was also recorded as rather hawkish as a senator. now hilda solis is resigning. not sure what that means, but as the president's moving further to the left in his second term. not a centrist. let's bring back karen finney, columnist for the hill. guy benson, and mark simone. guy, i think these ap

herbert hoover was invited to the kennedy inaugural in 1961. he was a very close friend to the president's father. the weather was so bad that he really could not get here. but he intended to be here. host: ronald reagan had the warmest and coldest inauguration days. guest: the great story about the weather -- william howard taft, who had this self deprecatory sense of humor -- there was a blizzard. he had too much sense of the ridiculous to be a politician. he said, i always thought it would be a cold day when i would be elected a president of the united states. host: how long was henry harrison's speech? guest: almost two hours. there have been efforts recently effect. -- recently to debunk teh direct auscause and effect. i do not know they have been successful. host: a caller on our independent line. caller: i want to bring attention to george washington's first inauguration. it was at a little church called st. paul's chapel. that is where george washington adjourned congress during the inauguration, to go down there and pray. during that p

so what we have inside this historic book are the signatures of herbert hoover, franklin roosevelt's, which was signed by his wife, harry truman, dwight eisenhower, john kennedy, richard nixon, gerald ford, to be carter, ronald reagan, george bush and so on. more recently, george w. bush and barack obama. the tradition has been maintained. at some point, when a new president is elected, st. john's makes an effort to contact that and have them sign this very historic book, which is a very dear item to the church. it does not sit in the president's piu anymore but it is one of those great pieces of history long associated with this church from 1856 to the present. one of the little-known facts about presidential inaugurations is that it has been the custom in modern times to have a church service, a worship service of some kind before the president takes the oath of office. a lot of people feel that is something of a longstanding tradition, and it's not. it actually began with franklin roosevelt on march 4, 1943, when he wished to have a worship service take place before he took the zer

revolution like the herbert hoover revolution like the teddy roosevelt revolution like the the u.s. great ulysses s. grant revolution like the lincoln revolution like the election of one thousand nine hundred which the or with the revolution of eight hundred the jefferson revolution has it become one of those major political turning points in american politics let's open this whole thing up to the big picture and moderation panel joining me are marc harrold libertarian commentator and author neil mccabe senior writer for human events online and sam sex progressive commentator and author over truth or guys welcome to the program so you know i think i've made myself really clear role of. just curious mark you're the the libertarian in the bunch you're brought your arguably the most opposite my my world view of the role of government in this do you think that obama really today changed the course of america or be. again the process of changing the course of america from the reagan revolution do you agree with my and krauthammer is analysis that reagan actually flipped america and could

like herbert hoover at some -- who rides meant to be careful of not wasting food. hooverize. do not waste food. yes, ma'am. >> is it harder for a modern president to contribute words? >> it's probably a little bit harder. but if you just look at the language that has been created by the internet and what has been created in the last 20 it just may happen by chance. when lincoln creates lincoln is a talking about secession. he said you are sugarcoating the picture of this country. the printers that we cannot put this in the official record. and he said i can't imagine no american not knowing what sugarcoating men's. this goes back to william safire's influence. one of the first uses of cool, not in a sense the sense of temperature but in the sense of being callous, he said that was a behavioral thing. those are words, words like cool. obama could come up with a new meaning for it as well. he could take his own word and given a new meaning. how either this was i did a lot of reading and i did a lot of use of huge proprietary databases that the libraries tab. nineteenth century

it was part rain for herbert hoover. he and his wife rode in an open car . john f. kennedy had a blizzard the night before his inauguration. students came out to help shovel snow so they could have a parade the next day. people who want to kennedy's inauguration, the first thing they talk about is whether that date. ather that day.a what about the vice president? it used to be there was a tradition that the vice- president got his own inauguration. when the congress and presidents to use to begin their terms on march 4, the first thing that would happen is the house and senate would me to swear in their new members. the first and had to do was where in the vice president -- think they had to do was where in the vice president. presidents of united states used to go to the senate chamber to watch their vice president be sworn in. the senate is to give the vice- president a chance to deliver his own inaugural address. i am sure joe biden would love to have that opportunity. it did not always work out well for vice presidents. in 1865, lincoln's second term, that's sig

president herbert hoover was in charge of the feeding of europe and the foodstuffs for the world. the hoover eyes need to be careful, not wasted, not throw food away. that's a positive turn back. , but yeah i do that because that's part of their legacy. >> are the reasons it nicely harder for president obama to notably nila chase analyst for the founding father? can he talk about how you research the book? >> it's probably a little bit harder, but if you just look at the language created by the internet and in the last 20 years, it probably isn't. it may happen by chance. when lincoln creates a really interesting words, one of the words he first uses he's talking about secession. he said the secessionist sugarcoating the impact on this country. the printer of the united states comes to lincoln and says we cannot put this in the official record. lincoln said i can't imagine any american not knowing. again, going back to william safire's influence on his, one of the first uses of cool, not in the sensor temperature, but the sense of being callous coming he said that was cool. i was a

lincoln, he doesn't live long in to the second term but the party prevails until herbert hoover. no democrat wins a yort in that period. the most important thing to build a platform for the party to win again the presidency and win more often than not. >> well, yeah. along those lines, modern examples, ronald reagan, set up george sr. to succeed him and reagan didn't endorse until they were over and left bush hanging a little bit but for the legacy helped to be succeeded by the vice president and bill clinton and al gore in 2000 and bill clinton rescheduling to a few days before the new hampshire primary to try to give gore the boost over bradley. it mattered very much for clinton for gore to succeed him and gore did not. looking at barack obama's position here, the natural successor candidate for 2016 would be the vice president, joe biden, but it looks like he's sort of overshadowed here by another -- somebody else with a claim, as well. hillary clinton. how do you think that shakes snout who has the claim to be the sort of successor candidate going forward? >> well, the nice t

herbert hoover was invited to the kennedy inaugural in 1961.e was a very close friend to the president's father. the weather was so bad that he really could not get here. but he intended to be here. host: ronald reagan had the warmest and coldest inauguration days. 1981 and 1985. guest: the great story about the weather -- william howard taft, who had this self deprecatory sense of humor -- there was a blizzard. he said, i always thought it would be a cold day when i would be elected a president of the united states. speech?ow long was his guest: almost two hours. there have been efforts recently to debunk the direct cause and effect. i do not know they have been successful. host: a caller on our independent line. caller: i want to bring attention to george washington's first inauguration. it was at a little church called st. paul's chapel. that is where george washington adjourned congress during the inauguration, to go down there and pray. during that prayer meeting, george washington asked for the blessings of god. the little chapel is locat

harding in 1921 and suddened to serve under calvin coolidge and herbert hoover.he was probably more powerful than all three of those. if you have a political question, e-mail us at dailyrundown@msnbc.com. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? >>> let's bring back our gaggle. jim, i want to go to you. what does speaker boehner have to do to get things through this house gop conference for these next two -- it's a very difficult thing. >> it is. he still hasn't proven that he can. frankly even this debt deal that he did lost three republican members. you can't do that and pass a budget because most likely he's only going to be able to pass it to start with, with republ

herbert hoover got his speech all wrong.onths before the great depression he had declared the country had reached a higher degree of comfort and security than at any time in history. oops! but lincoln got it so right, his with malice towards none, charity for all, was more than a speech. it was a life guide. yet, no more powerful than roosevelt's "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." and no less inspiring than kennedy's "ask not what your country can do for you. but what you can do for your country." as the nation was dividing into political parties, jefferson wander, "we are all republicans. we are all federalists." still, so true. and it was the first george bush who looked out at the crowd and said, "we meet on democracy's front porch on a day when our nation is made whole, when our differences for a moment are suspended." just think, if we could keep that feeling going for a while, who knows what great things might still be done. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] you are a busin omnipotent of opportunity. y

herbert hoover was invited to the kennedy inaugural in 1961.ry close friend to the president's father. the weather was so bad that he really could not get here. but he intended to be here. host: ronald reagan had the warmest and coldest inauguration days. guest: the great story about the weather -- william howard taft, who had this self deprecatory sense of humor -- there was a blizzard. he said, i always thought it would be a cold day when i would be elected a president of the united states. there have been efforts recently to debunk the direct cause and effect. i do not know they have been successful. host: a caller on our independent line. caller: i want to bring attention to george washington's first inauguration. it was at a little church called st. paul's chapel. that is where george washington adjourned congress during the inauguration, to go down there and pray. during that prayer meeting, george washington asked for the blessings of god. the little chapel is located on the same territory where the world trade center was destroyed. i th

. >> when kenesaw mountain landis told herbert hoover -- >> oh, my god. right. >> oops, he did it again. >> historian jokes. >> you're not going to see alex rodriguez in a yankee uniform again. you've seen him for the last time in a yankee uniform. you are more likely, given the allegations in this report, to see alex rodriguez in a grand jury box before you see him in a batter's box. and this in a sport that has the most advanced, the most sophisticated, the most threatening drug program available in all of our professional sports. they're going to be randomly testing players this summer for hgh. that's how far advanced major league baseball's drug testing program is, but it's proof once again that no matter how positive and how strong the drug testing program is, players, athletes, in every sport, not just baseball, will always be looking for some extra edge, some players, not all players. >> but how do they get rid of them, mike? what's the move? just eat the contract and tell them to go away? >> i think the only way to get rid of him is to pretend the

the only president who lost his bid for reelection and had not been challenged was herbert hoover when he lost to fdr. a very long time ago. women tend to be pro-incumbent. they do not like to rock the boat politically or otherwise, until given a reason. god, how many more reasons do they need? i get that. the most important thing, this cycle was ill -- built on when he said, no president could have done it in four years. it is going to take more than four years. i'd give people the excuse they were looking for. also, let us understand -- i do not know a million things about a million things. i know voters and polling and consumers. voters love to tell you all about this love affair they have with change and choice and options in revolution. they never in their own lives join a revolution. they never exercise an option. they never make the changes they swear they will. nobody ever loses those last 10 pounds. nobody ever gets out of that crappy relationship. everybody is going for change -- then they go to mcdonald's every night and order number three. how about a revolution? how about

what we have inside this historic book are the signatures of herbert hoover, franklin roosevelt, which was signed by his wife, eleanor roosevelt, harry truman, and dwight eisenhower, lyndon johnson, john kennedy, richard nixon, gerald ford, jimmy carter, ronald reagan, george bush, and so on. more recently, george w. bush and barack obama. the tradition has been maintained. when a new president is elected, st. john's makes an effort to contact them and have them sign this historic book, which is a very dear item to the church. it is one of those great pieces of history that has been long associated with this church, from 1856 till the present one of the little-known fact about presidential inaugurations is that it has been the custom in modern times to have a church service, and worship service of some kind before the president takes the oath of office. people feel this is a longstanding tradition. it began with franklin roosevelt on march 4, 1933. when he wished to have a worship service take place before he took the oath of office, in the depths of the great depression. he contacted

thin 1932 it was voted to be mod from march to january when herbert hoover did nothing to address theing to wait more than five months for the election for fdr to take control. mr. obama will take the oath of office four times, jon. >> there was an interesting story about the vice-president's swearing-in as well. a little commerce intruding? >> reporter: that was held early this morning to accommodate justice sonia sotomayor's plans for a book signing in new york. the constitution stipulates the old president's term ends a second before noon on january 20th, but there's no such time set out for the vice-president. mr. biden really wantedwanted justice so toe mior t -- sonia o toe mior to administer the offer. >> i want to explain what a wonderful honor it was and how much out of her way the justice had to go. she's due in new york, has to leave right now. i apologize. we're going to walk out. her car is waiting so she can catch a train. i hope i haven't caused her to miss it. >> reporter: her book is called my beloved world, much of it about growing up in the bronx, a place she is abs

herbert hoover was invited to the kennedy inaugural in 1961.s a very close friend to the president's father. the weather was so bad that he really could not get here. but he intended to be here. host: ronald reagan had the warmest and coldest inauguration days. guest: the great story about the weather -- william howard taft, self deprecatoryrecator sense of humor -- but there was a blizzard. he said, as always thought it would be a cold day when i was a united states.he nine state the rough and efforts recently to debunk the direct -- there have been efforts recently to debunk the direct cause and effect. i do not know they have been successful. host: a caller on our independent line. caller: a want to bring attention to george washington's first inauguration. it was at a little church called st. paul's chapel. that is where george washington adjourned congress during the inauguration, to go down there and pray. during that permitting, george washington ask for the blessings of god -- permitting, george washington asked for the blessings of god

the only president in 100 years who lost his bid for reelection and had not been challenged was herbert hoover when he lost to fdr. people tend to be very pro- incumbent. they did not like to rock the boat politically unless given a reason. how many more reasons did they need? i get that. the most important thing that was said was bill clinton's speech. no president could have done and in four years. it is going to take more than four years. that gave people the excuse they were looking for a. i know votersnd, and i know poling. voters love to tell you all about this love affair they have with change and choice and revolution. they never really join a revolution. they never exercised an option. they never make the changes they say they well. nobody ever gets out of that crop year relationship or find the job they like. this is the same -- in new york city, the largest apple be is in the world is in new york city. do you know why? people from all across this country say i am going to say if money to go to new york city. they go to times square and they go to the world's largest apple bees. that

fellow named herbie herbert -- probably the best businessman as president was a fellow named herbert hooverit comes back to the conversation of business spending versus government spending. a business, when general electric is deciding about what will happen when it lays off a bunch of workers, it they did not have to worry if it will cut its own sales. the government has to worry about that all the time. host: richard in cincinnati on the independent line. caller: i have a question for you. i hear all the time about trillions of dollars sitting in offshore accounts by u.s. corporations. if you had your way, how would you try to get this money back into the united states and reinvest it in our economy? guest: do not know how much corporations are holding an offshore accounts. corporations are sitting on a couple of trillion dollars of cash they are not investing, but you know, it is not for the most part because they are evil. some of them are, but that is not the point. they are sitting on it because of a weak economy. if the office buildings are not fully occupied, it does not work. what

i was 68 years old in 1929 and i heard hoover -- herbert hoover being sworn in.ther than that, i have voted for obama twice. but i was very disappointed in him after his first term, at the beginning of his first term where he appointed all those wall street guys to the treasury. i think that was a big mistake. --t: let's take that point what about the next round of nominees? guest: 1 small misconception that i will address is that time that the governor was not a wall street got. he has been in public service his whole career. he is often perceived that way. he had been the president of the federal reserve bank of new york which regulates a lot of banks and wall street firms but he was not a wall street got. i think there was an undeniable sense in the economic debates inside the first obama white house that concern about the market, concern about the stability of the financial system trumped a lot of other concerns and a lot of the policy that came out of that first year of debates about how to deal with the lessons of the financial crisis tilted more in the dir

i was six years old on the first of march 1929, and i heard herbert hoover being sworn in. i have votedat's for obama twice. but i was very disappointed right after his first term, the beginning of his first term. he appointed all those wall street guys to the treasury, and i think that was a big mistake. get to that point, about the next round of nominees. guest: small misconception i will address, tim geithner was not a wall street guy. he has been in public service his whole career. he is often perceived that way. he had been the president of the federal bank of new york, which regulates a lot of wall street firms. having said that, there was an undeniable sense in the economic debates inside the first obama white house that concern about the markets, concern about the stability of the financial system trumped a lot of other concerns, and a lot of the policy that came out of that first year of debate about how to deal with the lessons of the financial crisis tilted more in the direction of maintaining the stability in the banking system rather than punishing anybody or t

it poured rain when herbert hoover rode down from the white house to the capitol, but they rode in ancar. a lot of inaugurations -- john f. kennedy had a blizzard the night before his inauguration. students from local university came down to shovel snow. anytime you talk to anybody who went to kennedy's inauguration, the first thing i talk about is the weather. it is the one thing that we cannot predict. we have this situation with the president being sworn in, but what about the vice president? it used to be there was a tradition that the vice president at his own inauguration. when the congress and the presidency is to begin their terms on march 4, the first thing that happened was that the senate and house would need to swear in their new members. the first thing they had to do was swear in their vice- president, who is the president of the senate. for a long time, a century, presidents of the united states used to go to the senate chamber to watch their vice-president be sworn in. the senate is to give the vice president a chance to deliver his own address. can you would imagine v