herbert spencer was the president of harvard university. me, it was people thought that they did not leave that human beings were, you know, created in the image of god. spencer came about with the idea that education is a process, what they call, for example, the human body. the human body was just an animal state, and today in critical racial theory, we had to come up with what they call national education association to debate those theories of spencer and charles darwin. and, if you look at the human person, and as a human person is created in the image of god, then we have to treat that person as an image of a created supreme being. if we look at education as an animal, it is a whole new ballgame. if you look at a black person, they do not look like they are created in the image of god. host: i -- apologies for that. kenneth in arkansas, you are a parent, good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning. you need to have that guy put on your show so he can explain what he was saying to the public. but what i want to say concerning critical