joining me. 2012 presidential candidate, radio talk show host, herman cain. thank you for joining us, that is a strong hole what is going on? >> remember a poll is just a trend. and many time one poll does not a victory make. i live in georgia, i listen to voters all of the time, i do not believe that poll. the best indicator would be real clear politics average. i don't know how many people were in it, we don't know what the distribution was be they don't tell you that. i tell many of my listeners. don't pay attention to poll at-this-point, between now and labor day there is going to be a lot of political noise, things set will down after labor day, when a lot of people wake up to who hillary clinton really is, liar, liar, liar. lou: and today acknowledging she short circuited, whether answers chris wallace's questions on fox news sunday, that played into the republican narrative of her, and her campaign must be terribly upset tonight because she has acknowledged what she has been accused of that is not being healthy enough to hold position of president. >>

with a law firm to serve a new industry, utilities, and then to have that utilities company. >> herman cain was on the fox news channel today. one of the questions was the republican party has not nominated a businessman said wendell willkie. >> i always like when people make connections between present-day politics or issues and the past. i am reluctant to do that except to say this -- it is too early to identify the dark horse because at this point in 1939, very few people had ever heard of wendell willkie. many thought he was still a democrat. he did not emerge until the spring of 1940. if we are calling a format, we would have to wait until the spring of 2012 to know if we have a dark horse. >> the conventions of a 1940 were very different from the conventions of 2012. >> the outcomes were less certain than now. we seem to be more settled in a primary system. >> ron is starting us from maryville, washington, to talk about the presidential campaign of wendell willkie. >> thanks for taking my call and for having this series. it is outstanding. i want to provide three corrections or clarif

herman cain. nice to see you this morning. >> thank you.ng here. is the media treating both of these candidates fairly? >> absolutely not. all you have to do is look at the facts that there are two perceptions of race relations in america and the media they only play to one. you have race relations through the lens of the liberal media and through the experience that people have every day. that's the big difference that the liberal media does not make a distinction of. my experience with people i'm around every day does not say we have a divisive, negative race relationship in america. i went to the grocery store yesterday and white people were taking pictures with me. what kind of divisive, negative situation is that? so i don't see race relations the way the liberal media does it through the lens of the media. it's two perceptions, they don't distinguish between the two. >> they go after his tone, his -- the way he articulates these things as opposed to the policies he's talking about which have failed the inner cities controlled by democ

herman cain.ing, sir. and now we have more emails. these were not the ones surrendered by secretary clinton but obtained pursuant to a deposition or foia request from judicial watch. your thoughts? >> first of all hats off for judicial watch for continuing to push. this i'm not on the board of judicial watch. i wish everybody watching this program would go to that website and support judicial watch. because if it were not for them, these would not have been out in the public. now, the main point is, this confirms that there was a direct connection between the state department and people who wanted favors from the state department. the fact that they said it wasn't directly hillary clinton, the last time i checked, if the people worked for you, you're responsible for their actions. that dog won't hunt, greta. it simply won't hunt. >> i don't like the fact that 44 -- that's these emails weren't turned over. it's like pulling teeth. >> it's like pulling teeth because they are trying to hold back as m

maybe it is herman cain or someone else. what we see from both parties is a desire to find someone who started a firm, who comes from the outside. a very similiar mood. when you have had a long period of non-recovery, you look outside of washington for the answers. quite similar, and that is why someone like that would get a reception, i would argue. >> he ran again in 1944 briefly. >> and not at all successfully. the republican establishment had no use for him because of his continued support to roosevelt after the 1940 election. in fact, there was some talk, not much more than talk, that roosevelt, who had his own troubles with certain democrats, of franklin roosevelt and wendell willkie coming together and forming a new political party. now there is an idea to think about for the future of america. >> our next call is erica from washington, d.c. go ahead, please. >> thank you for doing this. it is a great show. i have a policy question if we could go back a little bit. i think i've understand the type of things the shape

. >> even herman cain. it's romney. most lovely, sweet, elegant person. if they're going to be mad at him, imagine how they feel about trump. i think most of the bitterness is directed towards trump. cruz is a different thing. every place he's ever gone he's been disliked, kindergarten, senate, every place he goes. we keep reading and we know why. >> why not explain what he thinks to the politics and put fears of supporters at rest, why not just -- isn't a speech a perfect and always has been a way for candidates to tell you what they really think? >> he's given some immigration speech. >> the immigration speech. here is what i would do if elected. >> he has an immigration policy paper. he's talked a lot about it. the issue is he had one scheduled and now it's been driven about softening. i mean, it's just -- how many transgenders are there in america? let's estimate and say 500. there's more transgenders in america than there are americans worried about the comfort and feeling of security of people who have entered our country illegally. why are we spend

. >> and in this interview with trumpet backer and former candidate herman cain,n, al jazeera provedrtment between the u.s. and the world isn't over. -- the argument between the u.s. and d the world d is never. >> why when i get with the secretary of state over a real estate developer? >> she did not do anything of secretary of state. >> let me ask you this question. [arguing] >> ok, ask me a question and i will ask you one. ♪ there has been a lolot of talk inn philadelphia about this city has a place of revevolutio. but there is no revolution that this city has been more part of than the revolution against chattel slavery. the fight to discern that people mean more than profit is a fight in which all progressive forces could and should agrgree. but it is an unfinished revolution. we are in a place that is been at the heart of it. >> we are sitting inside the fourth building. we feel this property for more than 200 years.this the oldest piece of land continuously held by african-americans. oftentimes visitors walklk in ad see it and ask us who we bought it from. obviously people don'

herman cain, thanks for joining us. >>> there's a new report about secretary hillary clinton as tax plan. if she wins the white house, will your taxes go up? according to a new report, former congressional budget officer director and president of the american action forum goes on the record. nice to see you, sir. >> good to see you. thank you. >> under the hillary clinton tax plan, are taxes going up? who are they going up? >> they're going up to the tune of $1.3 trillion over the next ten years if she were elected. right now she's promises they will only effect the very wealthy. >> there any way to know that for sure? >> there's a deficit of $2.2 trillion. he won't do that by cutting spending. to close that that means higher taxes for somebody and she's running out of rich people's income. >> i suspect if we had a more have i with us or robust economy, this would be less of an issue. >> certainly that would help, but we're grinding along right now, and a promise to raise taxes and create a 2.2 trillion deficit a promise to harm growth. i think you have to be concerned about the implicat

we saw herman cain's program with 9-9- 9. >> in order to pay for this, you need 4% growth. now 4% is double what we've had for the few years six or seven on average, but it's not unreasonable. because ronald reagan had an 8% growth rate. that's attainable, but it's aggressive. >> how do you assess this? one, did he get the message out? two, do you think it fits an appropriate party platform? and my third question for you, if we can both remember all this -- >> the next moment already. >> blame it on the back medication. and how do you think this could impact women's votes in terms of saying, child care is deductible, is that going to help them? >> the detroit economic club is a very prestigious place to give a speech. a great location. what eric was talking about, pretty standard fair and on the energy side pretty standard for republicans which probably might be good for some republicans who are thinking, i don't think i can get to donald trump, maybe they gives them comfort that they can do so. on the energy things, the democrats and their platform committee in philadelphi

to herman cain who says trump is making the right move. herman, should mr. trump go to chicago and meet with the superintendent of police in chicago? >> yes. because one of the characteristics that has made trump distinguish him is his ability to listen. he willies ton the police chief. he will listen to the people in the community to get the ideas. one of the signs of a great lead ever, which i one of the rains think so many people are attracted to trump, is his ability to listen and then formulate targeted solutions. there's no silver bullet because every city would with different you. need a listener and maybe it's resources and that's the type of think trump would learn by going there. >> some of the incidents which are being reported recently make me feel this is very much a divided nation. is it? it is but is it getting worse? >> it is a divided nation through the lens of the media because the lens of the liberal media, with the way, they highlight all of the negative stuff, all of the senseless killings, the riots in ferguson, the riots in baltimore a

then herman cain. then newt.d pay more attention to pundits. >> we're going to win by a landslide. >> pundits get things wrong constantly, too. >> romney big, not even close. >> turns out pundits are not terribly accurate. >> economist robin hanson studies an alternative. there's something about putting money on the line that cuts through. people often make bold statements. >> you're talking. you're pontificating. something challenges you and says you want to bet on that? all of us. as soon as somebody says you want to bet on that? you pause and go, do i really believe that? if you put your money where your mouth is, you are more careful. and when lots of people put their mouth on the line, on sites called prediction markets, like this one in the united states, this one in europe, the resulting odds are more accurate than anything else. unfortunately, they post these odds in confusing gambling formulas. so my producer and i created this site. electi electionbettingodds.com that states the odds more clearly. and w

>> joining us now from stockbridge, georgia, former presidential candidate herman cain, now a fox newstributor and author of the book "the right solutions." mr. cain, thanks for joining us. everyone on the left, the media is worried about donald trump's words. they say words matter, words matter. how about hillary clinton's actions? >> words do matter, but the liberal media better get used to the fact that donald trump sometimes uses edgy metaphors and he came back. and they came back and said actually you note he didn't mean it literally, anybody with any brains would have figured that out. if you go back and look at the facts when president obama took office isis did not exist. isis grew because he announced the withdrawal from iraq. isis grew because we were pulling out our troops. so, factually, he is the one who stimulated the rise of isis and get used to the that ds going to use edgy metaphors. that's all it is to it. he has a since of humor, eric. >> okay. but there are two of them this week. we had the second amendment comment. >> yes. >> and then we had this one. i don't know,

discussions, charles payne and i, about entitlement versus empowerment.d if the people are, ben carson, herman cain will hear, james brown, i don't know if it is appropriate to name his song, he says, i don't want nobody to give me nothing. just open the door and i will get it myself. so we're looking for opportunity rather than entitlement. empowerment, rather than giveaways. i believe that if any of the young men who were shot had had those types of opportunities, the flawed system would not be there and we'd have different outcomes and less grief. melissa: so what does that look like in terms of policy? how do you achieve that? i mean what are some examples you think? >> as we put america back to work as we get better education in our school system and we empower our families and churches to exercise the constitutional rights to help make decisions for our country, america does need to come first, i think it is very true. before you can help someone else outside of the borders you have to fix the flawed system. the system is not necessarily broken but it is working in a bad way and we need to co

>> joining us now from stockbridge, georgia, former presidential candidate herman cain, now a fox news book "the right solutions." mr. cain, thanks for joining us. everyone on the left, the media is worried about donald trump's words. they say words matter, words matter. how about hillary clinton's actions? >> words do matter, but the liberal media better get used to the fact that donald trump sometimes uses edgy metaphors and he came back. and they came back and said actually you note he didn't mean it literally, anybody with any brains would have figured that out. if you go back and look at the facts when president obama took office isis did not exist. isis grew because he announced the withdrawal from iraq. isis grew because we were pulling out our troops. so, factually, he is the one who stimulated the rise of isis and get used to the fact that donald trump is going to use edgy metaphors. that's all it is to it. he has a since of humor, eric. >> okay. but there are two of them this week. we had the second amendment comment. >> yes. >> and then we had this one. i don't know, maybe h

rick perry and even herman cain, all of them, add newt gingrich, they would endorse anybody but mitt romney. for pete's sake, the most lovely, sweet, elegant person. imagine how they feel about trump. >> host: it seemed was like ted cruz. they disliked him as a person i noticed. >> guest: i think it is most is directed towards trump. ted cruz is a different place he's gone since kindergarten, the senate. he keeps leading about it and now we see why. >> host: why not explain precisely what he thinks of the public input for the support to affirm, why not just -- it has always been the way to tell you what they really think. you can't misinterpret it. >> guest: he is giving some speeches. >> host: here's what i would do if elected. >> guest: he has the paper and talks a lot about it. the issue is he had one scheduled and now it's been unscheduled. it's driving the supporters out of their mind. how many transgender do you think there are in america? a thousand, a dozen? there are more transgender in america than there are those worrying about the comfort and security of people who've ent

he seriously injured her when he attacked her in herman cain apartment the day after he was released. she could lose vision in one of her eyes. a judge ordered turco to be held without bail. >> mark: 100 police officers found out today they've been chosen to take part in the city's camera program. they made sure the cameras were spread out into different district to get a fair sample. comply. >> the reporter: we have wanted it to be -- we wanted it to be a voluntary program, but we didn't get enough officers to step up to do that, so now it's a mandatory program and we'll see what happens after the pilot program is complete. >> mark: the mayor told us the officers picked will spend the next few weeks training with the cameras before they hit the streets at the start of next month. >> vanessa: let's turn now to the weather. things looking a lot different than they did yesterday at this time. last night as you know we were tracking storms, but right now, over the city of boston. fox 25 storm tracker chief meteorologist kevin lemanowicz is already tracking though our next round of severe

his left is jasonward who is author a of herman cain bridge racial violence, and america's civil rights century. he's a associate professor of history and mississippi state university. that the end is crystal sanders whose book is a chance for change had head start and mississippi's black freedom struggle. she's a historian of the 20th century and at the state university. i like to start off three minutes telling us about their books i'll start with you debbie. and move down. >> okay. >> first of all i want to say thank you ralph and thank you to all of the organizers of the mississippi book festival it is just fabulous and i'm very honored to be here. wednesday in mississippi what my book is about was the only civil rights project organized by women for women as part of a national women's organization. and it was unlike anything i had ever heard or read about in the civil rights movement. they brought interracial interfaith teams of northern women with who were middle age and middle-class down to jackson, mississippi, in freedom summer. they came wearing their very proper dresses, whit

ben carson and speak at a predominantly black church. 2012 gop contender herman cain campaigning with mike pe relations issue in america. they do. >> reporter: and this morning we say arguing for human rights should speak for itself. and this morning we have a look at our nbc news/surveymonkey online tracking poll numbers showing clinton's lead over trump has narrowed from eight points down to six in just the last week. and among registered toward either party, trump is making inroads there too cutting clinton's lead from 12 points to 4. savannah? >> hallie jackson, thank you. >>> let's turn to trouble brewing off the east coast. florida and the carolinas facing the threat of really heavy rains and heavy winds. dylan is keeping an eye on it all in for al this morning. what's going on? >> the tropics got extremely busy and we're keeping an eye on the two tropical depressions. not so much the category 2 hurricane gaston. pull away. it's these two storms. tropical depression number eight and tropical depression number nine are the ones likely to become tropical systems later on today. le

for example, ross perot, there was some talk about herman cain being -- earlier this year, also mayor bloomberg was mentioned as a businessman who might solve america's economic issues. we get so far as an electorate with them. and then not all the way to the finish line. can you talk a little bit about the kinds of people americans seem to want as leaders. >> i think that's a wonderful point. we like the idea of somebody who is not part of washington. somebody who is going to do what's right for the country. and not be beholden to the democratic party or the republican party. we elect people from the military or corporate people and somebody who runs a company and knows how to run the government. and yet, once you have to start going on all the tv shows and traveling, and every aspect of your life gets investigated, i don't know how many people that want to run anymore. it's become pretty brutal for -- you basically have to run for two or three years nonstop. and president obama and i'm sure republican romney or gingrich or whoever it might be have to raise about $1 billion. and it's

. >> herman cain back in the fold. see that? a little 999 at the pence rally. >> i missed it. i missed 999. >> trump should use 999. it's a clear message, i know what it means. >> i miss it. it was innocent. >> before you thought it would lead to nuclear warfare with godfather's pizza, something somebody wrote on the back of the godfather's pizza box. >> new poles show white house tightening nationally. hillary clinton ahead by six points and survey monkey weekly online tracking poll, 48% to 42%. she led by eight points last week. a four-way race shows a four-point lead. clinton 41-37% down from -- >> so what's happening there? >> what is going on? >> is gary johnson taking from clinton more than trump or what? i guess equally maybe. >> both. both. >> that's scary. >> it's marginal movement there, that's margin of error stuff. >> tracking polls tend to go if you actually look at the weekly, daily variation, now, that's how they go. >> monmouth university poll clinton falls five points to 39% though she remains seven points ahead of trump. clinton has a seven-point advantage ov

. >> when you were figuring this out with your advisers, like no flat taxpayer, like herman cain, remembereone making $100 is taxed the same as someone making $1 million. i thought a graduated tax is the better tax. i thought it was a more fair tax. i think when you're making very little, you should be paying, you know, very little tax. because you need the money. when you're making a lot it could be graduated upward. i always felt that way. >> one of the tax plans that you would like to essentially explore is the death tax. you get taxed during your life and it doesn't make sense to be taxed at the end of your life. you know, how -- there are certain groups that would like to see that continue. why do you think this is good thing to get rid of? >> a lot of people want it. it's very unfair. you look at farmers, they have a good business, but no liquidity. so many businesses and then all of a sudden you're paying this massive death tax it's called an estate tax or a death tax and they have no business left. i mean, their business is gone. they have to go out and borrow. now they're overexte