hezbollah is our deterrence. they're not going to let it disappear. in strategic terms, they need it. see what wouldto happen if it continues as it is, very likely -- it's because it's basically going to be a fire fight between rockets and the israeli air force. what happens in iraq? the shia prism might come to life. this is interesting. i'm struck actually in the united states how we talk about the middle east. the middle east actually means lebanon, and jordan. i mean i'm really struck by that. we need to talk about the middle east. one talks about iraq. omeone said to me, said, the iranians and the israelis want america to be drawn in to the middle east. i said you are in the middle east. are -- you know? one thing.hasize actually a lot of the punditry is going on, we don't know, precisely what the connection is and what's happened. it's not implausible. comes ink if hezbollah to serious pressure, iranians will come to their assistance the other. i don't know how. as i want to let everyone continue to ask que

but then they say we're missiles yout the were sold by the iranians to hezbollah. that.ght have evidence of the next stage ask is to say, the iranians were sitting in lebanon firing the missiles. now you're building on this and andare saying it gets more more incredible. you are building on something that people have more accepted plausible to build on this. iranians can do this just as well. thatrd wonderful stories the americans are doing. when there is nobody to challenge what is going on, this how it builds. the other thing they do is, say it is an they assault on israel. onlyn itsel assault on the democratic country. the west.ssault on it is an assault on america. radical assault on american civilization. morecomes more and exaggerated. in all of the statements, there is not a shred of evidence, not shred of evidence. i would take it to task, it says an apologist and you do so and so. i will tell you what i'm an for.gist i'm an apologist for my discipline and it tell mess you yout make a statement until can back it up with evidence. i'm an historian. in a hist

that is 280,000 people, more than the number of people suspected of ties to al qaeda, hamas, and hezbollah combined. the report notes, quote, since taking office, obama has boosted the number of people on the no-fly-list more than tenfold to an all-time high of 47,000. now, part of this increase can be traced to late 2009, to the

certainly. >> hezbollah certainly and there are still several thousand hezbollah fighters. iran have had some fighters there but not clear on whether they do now. >> where are we with iran with the extension of negotiations, where are we? what is the point that needs to be overcome? is it simply the number of centrifuges they will be allowed to keep operational and what they can produce with those centrifuges? >> yes, it's basically the key point is can iran give us an assurance that they will not use their legitimate right to have some form of nuclear energy for the purposes of creating weapons of mass destruction. that is the key point. and all that comes down to enrichment. you know, what sort of enrichment do they need. now they are claiming -- >> which is what you do with the centrifuges. >> exactly. that for peaceful purposes they need a huge number of centrifuges. we say that is absolutely ridiculous. the only purpose you would need this number of centrifuges for, this amount of enrichment activity is to create nuclear weapons. and that is unacceptable. so it's reall

terrorists like al qaeda and hezbollah and like isis and like boko haram, hamas is no different. they have absolutely no regard for civilians. so the first thing they do is target our civilians. they fired 3500 rockets into our city where 85% of our population is. just imagine, 250 million americans will have to be on alert to get into bomb shelters against incoming rockets into american cities. you have 90 seconds at most to go into a bomb shelter. that's the first thing they do. they target civilians. then they dig terror tunnels to kill our citizens, our children, and kidnap our people. imagine that. so what would you do in the united states or in any country, for that matter? what would you say to your governor? >> i would say get to them. protect us. >> protect us. the government's first obligation is to protect its people. now, here comes problem number two. what if they not only target your civilians so criminally and indiscriminately, what if they hide behind civilians? what if those terror rockets are being fired from schools, from hospitals, from motels, and private hom

these groups are not as tame as hezbollah, for instance.y could actually get something worse, and it is a gamble for the israelis what to do about hamas leadership. >> so robert, at that point that bob just made that, you know, hamas is fairly moderate, there's a lot of israelis that would very much disagree with that, a lot of israelis within the government in the cabinet, whenever they talk about hamas, they always mention isis, al qaeda, almost always in the same breath. in your assessment, are they in the same league? >> well, the short answer is no as bob pointed out. hamas is exclusively for the struggle, the resistance is in its name in arabic for gaza and the west bank, going back many generations. when you're talking about destroying hamas, and i'm presuming that when they refer to that, they're talking about military or paramilitary or terrorist structure of hamas, because there's the political wing which leadership is outside gaza, mostly in qatar. so when you are talking about, you know, dismantling or doing away with hamas, doe

-- capacity of hezbollah. it says it knows the importance of effective governance. according to intelligence has administrative employees, they have kept in place to keep areas running. they've gotten toward building hospitals, roads, schools, and even invested in local businesses to boost the economy. "slate'says they are also trying minds iner hearts and the areas they are controlling. they handed out soccer balls and held a contest for who could memorize the koran the best. >> definitely a contest for hearts and minds. let's focus on french politics. the former housing minister has come out with a scathing book about the current left government. >> that is right. let's take a look at the front page of the right-leaning paper. it seems happy about what is happening. the book is called "from the inside: boys to the land of dissolution." it is really critical of president hollande and the government. it says here that she defies hollande. she says i voted for him and believed in him and it was a mistake, he di

terrorists like al qaeda and hezbollah and like isis and like boko haram, hamas is no different. they have absolutely no regard for civilians. so the first thing they do is target our civilians. they fired 3500 rockets into our city where 85% of our population is. just imagine, 250 million americans will have to be on alert to get into bomb shelters against incoming rockets into american cities. you have 90 seconds at most to go into a bomb shelter. that's the first thing they do. they target civilians. then they dig terror tunnels to kill our citizens, our children, and kidnap our people. imagine that. so what would you do in the united states or in any country, for that matter? what would you say to your governor? >> i would say get to them. protect us. >> protect us. the government's first obligation is to protect its people. now, here comes problem number two. what if they not only target your civilians so criminally and indiscriminately, what if they hide behind civilians? what if those terror rockets are being fired from schools, from hospitals, from motels, and private hom

it is in some respects the hezbollah model.t preserves its ideology, coherence, and the veto power. whether or not that is realistic, the reality is the peace and focus of this has been driven by a bunch of guys living 20 or 25 meters below ground in bunkers. you may be right. about the four components of hamas's world. it seems to me that those that have the military initiative are essentially controlling the fight here. how do you we can and undermine hamas as an organization? and yet to degrade and the deter itsrad and capacity? >> there is a good bit of disagreement if this was at technocratic government. it was clear that the government was formed based on an agreement with the maas -- with hamas. to say it was merely technocratic, they did not want to be friars or suckers. they didn't want to act like they didn't know what was gion oing on. it is well known on the subject. excuse me. i think the other problem was this hezbollah model that we discussed, that it would be able to be this state within a state and it was not g

hezbollah certainly.there are hezbollah fighters there. >> where are we on iran in terms of negotiations? or the extent of negotiations? what is the point that needs to be overcome? the number they will be allowed to keep operational? and what they can produce with those centrifuges? >> yes. the key point is can iran give us an assurance that they will not use their legitimate right to have some form of nuclear energy, for the purposes of creating weapons of mass distraction. that is the key point. all of that comes down to enrichment. what sort of enrichment do they need? they are claiming -- exactly. for peaceful purposes they need a huge number of centrifuges. we say that is absolutely ridiculous. the only purpose you would need this number for is creating nuclear weapons. it is the heart of the problem. within that there are technical details. how many centrifuges are required, and what happens with verifications. that is the heart of the problem. there is a reasonable chance by the extended deadline

and in the past, i know a group like hezbollah will often use the status of a capture as a bargainingg whether the person they have taken is alive or dead, and use that information as a way to negotiate and get -- and basically get prisoners out. >> you're absolutely right. and i've heard several times in the course of today already from israelis that the hamas may be looking at that hezbollah example, captured an israeli soldier in lebanon, wouldn't even say anything. they would try to get -- win some sort of concessions, win some sort of prisoners, win something from the israelis, even to say, yes, we have this prisoner, this israeli soldier, who is a prisoner. we have this or that. we have the remains. and the israelis have even gone so far as to trade prisoners for a dead -- for the remains of an israeli soldier, two or three, that happened with hezbollah in lebanon on a few occasions. you know, when i went to one of those tunnels the other day in southern israel, right near the gaza border, an israeli lieutenant colonel took me in there and gave me a tour of what was going on. on

they have the fighting ability of al qaeda but the political ability of hezbollah.hey have hospitals, courts, schools. they have a judicial system. they are collecting taxes. they are issuing title deeds for property. they are exercising all the governance functions you would expect of a state. they controlled the territory and that territory is expanding. functionally, they are dramatically more dangerous than al qaeda ever was. >> they are still able to do most of that simply because they arrived in a situation where the normal population was living in chaos and insecurity. they have been able to deliver some bare minimum of normalcy. as long as everyone is aware that if they leave, there is going to be a worse situation, they will probably be able to continue. how sustainable is that? that is a long way off. >> where do we think syria is right now? assad is trying to retake aleppo. is he likely to do that or will the rebels with stan his attack? >> it depends on input from the outside. rethinking aleppo, much like the siege, would take months and months, maybe ye

the iranians are against them and hezbollah has been fighting them. i think the united states could, with diplomacy, put together a coalition with a specific objective of going after the islamic state because that is our principle enemy, i think, in the region. >> the islamic state seized 425 million a bank takeover. they have american humvees, 50 american, 155-millimeter -- [ indiscernible ] small arms and millions of rounds of amunition all seized when they overran iraq bases and outposts. what do you think in the light of that? >> they're well-funded and they're brutal. if you don't convert to their brand of islam, they behead you and they have been putting heads up on speaks in the vill- - spikes in the villages they have overrun. i think the humanitarian that the president begun is just and appropriate. it's a genocide, the extinction, basically, of a religious group that is up on these mountains. so, the u.s. military action has to do with helping the pershmerga, who are a well- trained and effective fighting force in iraq. it's their fight, it'

the iranians are against them, and hezbollah has been fighting them. we could put together a coalition with a specific objective with going against the islamic state that. is our principle enemy in the region. >> the islamic state seized 425 million in a bank takeover. they have american humvees, some 50 american -- 155- millimeter houses. small arms and millions arms of ammunition, all seized in outposts. so who what do you think in the line of that? >> they are well funded and brutal. if you don't convert to their brand of islam, they behead you and they have been putting heads up in the villages they have overrun. i think the humanitarian intervention that the president has begun is totally just and appropriate because it is a genocide. it's the extinction of a religious group that is on these mountains. the u.s. military action has to do with helping the people, who are well trained and effective fighting force in iraq. it is their fight. it's iraq's fight, i agree with pat that this is not war between the u.s. and isis, whatever you want to call t

contact with that city city and thrown or saw enough to fire very close to the armed forces but hezbollah is very capable to live and his army we hear of yesterday that as well as support from the people in his army and all means but i don't think hezbollah in lebanon i mean the military support on the field will not interfere on the left would receive of requests from the government from the army and also from the population of that area it's very sensitive there as well it's situation is very critical in general how much of a risk then does the islamic state pose to lebanon. again please how much of the risk does the islamic state pose in lebanon. no i think. but it's not direct. because there is no environment. this kind of of. the moment is not the north of syria out of. lebanon a different. level for the population. and we'll find many people now all of a nice part of the political party are support from the army it's very very important the problem is tactical refugee problem. if. the city is very difficult because the army invade. we are talking about. forty thousand lebanese civil

if you look at the recent history books in two thousand and six israel invaded lebanon to take on hezbollah fighters the result the group got stronger and the conflict helped it into power in beirut since then there's been four devastating wars between israel and hamas but now the former rival sides fatah hamas of the unity government and in doing so only strengthened opposition to the i.d.f. also the human cost of those bloody conflicts is what's really gained traction in people's minds especially lately it's inflicted deep damage to israel's international image in twenty thirteen it found itself among the world's least popular countries according to a b.b.c. poll. earlier we talked to a former israeli soldier who refused to serve in protest over the government's actions and signed a petition letter along with dozens of others we asked her what she thinks about the mission. in general it at this period of time it's very difficult to be opposed to the operation in any way. very much out of the concerns is everybody most of the country is is behind this operation feels that it is justified j

he mentioned hezbollah, the lebanese hezbollah, as terrorist groups, as he put it who have come to syriaed to be confronted by the international community alongside other groups, a reference perhaps to the islamic state group. thanks so much, mr. shamadawa there. let's bring in shihab retinsi, our correspondent from washington, d.c., a plea from the syrian opposition that the u.s. should be striking targets inside syria if it's serious about going aver the islamic state group. what sort of messages are you getting from the u.s. officials there about how far they would be willing to go in targeting the i.s.? >> twe asked the department of defense whether airstrikes on syria were being considered. i can actually read you the full response actually because it isn't very long. i cannot confirm that. i am not aware of such discussions. to make that what you will, certainly last week, the state department spokesperson said that they were not considering syria, or at least at the very least, thought that syria and iraq were very different scenarios and that the u.s. capability might not be appr

-- hezbollah's working for certain iranian interests and also supported by militias from iraq.you have the shia coalition fighting to save the regime in damascus and in that sense iran and syria are more important in supporting the regime than mos cows. then you have sunnis from turkey, jordan, saudi arabia, qatar and others. attracting volunteers, quote, unquote, from the sunni world from africa, the caucuses, from central asia as well as from europe and the united states. this is the 20th century prototype civil war with spain in which everybody in europe fought each other on spanish soil and attracted volunteers from all over the world. syria is essentially our own version of the spanish civil war. >> brown: steven simon, that's complicated enough. you see it playing out all over the place, syria as a focal point but also where. >> well, yeah, syria has become a hot pit for some of the rivalries hisham was just talking about, but the camps can be viewed, likewise, as co consisting of iran and saudi arabia, sort of at the highest level, i guess, and then, within the sunnis, y

. -- hamas or hezbollah. betweener sitting here non-predatory neighbors to our north and south and fished our east and west has a margin of error that no other great power has. we have demonstrated that we can play fast and loose with this. we just sold $10 million. we have a strange relationship with egypt now. i think i put them in the good guy category. there are people in this town that would arguably want to hold them accountable for standards of democratization, gender equality, and political pluralism. sinceve 22 democracies 1950 in this world and have maintained their democratic character continuously. the indians and the turks are not on the list because they basically suspended the democratic process during various periods in that in terval. it's a very small club. we just need a much more sensible -- back tot to go something you said about the vital first discretionary interest to the united date. being intimately involved in brokering a two state solution a vital or discretionary interest at this

including with hezbollah going across borders becoming one of the militias of the cross-border armies that gave rise unfortunately to the terrorists, the sunni terrorists like isis or isil or whatever you want to call them. what is going to be done now to have the grand bargain work? i would very much be interested in some details on your part and please don't tell me about the regional organization, because we understand it has been -- already. >> i think we will just answer that one question. nadia being that good journalist that she is puts three questions into one. we will get to the true view in a minute. >> when you talk about iranian ambition and you give an example on iranian influence in iraq you should never forget it was an arab country. iraq invaded iran for eight years. it was all arab regional country supported aggressively. 1 million iranians they retain, $600 billion. saddam used chemical weapons. about 100,000 iranians were either killed or injured. saudi arabia, arabs, the u.s. europe supported the use of chemical weapons. you forget it's part of the history and you

terrorists like al qaeda and hezbollah and like isis and like boko haram, hamas is no different. they have absolutely no regard for civilians. so the first thing they do is target our civilians. they fired 3500 rockets into our city where 85% of our population is. just imagine, 250 million americans will have to be on alert to get into bomb shelters against incoming rockets into american cities. you have 90 seconds at most to go into a bomb shelter. that's the first thing they do. they target civilians. then they dig terror tunnels to kill our citizens, our children, and kidnap our people. imagine that. so what would you do in the united states or in any country, for that matter? what would you say to your governor? >> i would say get to them. protect us. >> protect us. the government's first obligation is to protect its people. now, here comes problem number two. what if they not only target your civilians so criminally and indiscriminately, what if they hide behind civilians? what if those terror rockets are being fired from schools, from hospitals, from motels, and private hom

hezbollah, syria, they're a threat but not really a direct threat to the united states. isis now has upwards of 100 individuals possibly americans who have fought with it or are fighting with it. 900 french nationals have traveled to syria. hundreds of u.k. nationals. we haven't seen these kind of numbers of western foreign fighters since the heyday of afghanistan. even then we didn't see those kind of numbers. >> and that is the big, you know, problem that the united states -- that's what americans are paying to right now. you've now had one american at least die on the battlefield fighting with isis. this becomes a much more pressing issue because these guys -- this guy had his passport in his pocket. >> i wrote an article several years ago about how anybody who's going to pakistan to visit grandma and is not back in two weeks should be immediately put on a watch list. all these people making their way through to the northern part of syria are going likely through istanbul. it's important as part of the alliance that the administration is trying to construct to make su

israel did destroy a lot of the military infrastructure that hamas had as much as they did with hezbollah2006 and i think that they are seriously weakened politically. so much of the people's livelihoods and quality of life experience was truly impacted by this. i'm also homes and schools and etc. they have to have faith in these leaders and look to political leadership and hopefully the palestinian authority can bring both of these groups and also together. lou: general jack keane, always good to help you here. governor rick perry of texas faces an indictment. and why not? even obama's people are calling the indictment a sham. juan williams and lou: joining me now is john fund, author of "obama's enforcer: eric holder." and we have our fox 5 political analyst, juan williams. he is articulate and as fluid as ever. let's test it out. eric holder, ferguson, missouri. what a great idea. >> i think it's a good idea in terms of trying to make it clear. there is no cover-up or effort to somehow make excuses for the shooting. everybody will know exactly what happened and to make sure that despit

they have the fighting ability of al qaeda but the political and administrative ability of hezbollah. they have hospitals. they have courts. they have schools, they have a judicial system. they are collecting taxes. they're issuing you know title sdeeds for property. they're actually exercising all the governance functions you would expect of a state. they control the territory. and that territory is expanding. so you can quibble about whether they are worthy of the term a state in the international community. but functionally, they're dramatically more dangerous than al qaeda ever was. >> but i also think what's interesting is they're still able to do most of that simply because they arrived in a situation where the normal population was living in complete chaos. and in complete insecurity. and they've been able to deliver for some percentage of the population some bare minimum of normal see. and as long as everyone is aware that if they leave, it is going to be back to an even worse situation, they will probably be able to continue it. but how sustainable is that if they could ever

israel did destroy a lot of the military infrastructure that hamas had as much as they did with hezbollahn 2006 and i think that they are seriously weakened politically. so much of the people's livelihoods and quality of life experience was truly impacted by this. i'm also homes and schools and etc. they have to have faith in these leaders and look to political leadership and hopefully the palestinian authority can bring both of these groups and also together. lou: general jack keane, always good to help you here. governor rick perry of texas faces an indictment. and why not? even obama's people are calling the indictment a sham. juan williams and john fund joie me next. ee for 10 years. no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax. which means more growth for your business, and more jobs. it's not just business as usual. see how new york can help your business grow, at startup.ny.gov shingles the pain in my tremendouscalp areailot. and down the back of my neck was intense. it would have been virtually impossible in that confined space to move to change radio frequencies. i mean it

theave gone through this in prior gaza efforts, in the hezbollah war.i went in andh, briefed the senior israeli lawyer for the military describing many of the same problems. you cannot just issue a warning and assume that everyone left. they are completely on notice. we have accused them of this in the past. they just keep on repeating it. it almost seems to be by design, to make the people of gaza pay a price because hamas is rolling over them. logic that same hamas uses. israel elected netanyahu, so all civilians are fair game. or all males might go into the military, so we can fire rockets. crime logic. >> we are going to break and then come back to this discussion with kenneth roth. moment.be back in a [♪] this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman, with nermeen sheikh. continue our discussion about possible war crimes in gaza. riad al-malki said that they were making efforts to become a member of the international criminal court. prosecutors. for us it was important to get acquainted with the work of the icc

iran and hezbollah have supported him. there are still several thousand hezbollah fighters. is not clear whether they do now. ?t's where are we with iran what is the point that needs to be overcome? >> basically, the key point is can iran give us an assurance the they will not use legitimate right to have some form of nuclear energy for the purposes of creating mass destruction. that is the key. all that comes down to enrichment. what sort of enrichment do they need? they are claiming that for peaceful purposes they need a huge number of centrifuges. we say that that is ridiculous. the only purpose that you would need this number of centrifuges for is to create nuclear weapons. that is unacceptable. that is the heart of the problem. there are many technical details, reactors, how many centrifuges, what happens to verifications. that is the heart of the problem. deadline ofded november that some form of agreement can be reached. it will not be easy. i would not put a percentage on it. i think there is a reasonable chance. negotiations have gone quite well. there are clearly d

>> hezbollah backed the dictator bashar al-assad, that's less of strategic relevance. to have a peace much transition to abadi, that calls for optimism. i think what needs to happen now is the arab trieps, abad -- tribes, abadi needs to woo the arab leaders and there's an opportunity for the arab tribes to be brought back into the fold of iraq. what needs to happen is regional sunni governments need to be far more involved, the brits are in there with the humanitarian aid but what are the regional sunni governments doing? it's expected that the shiite led governments would oppose the i.s. as well though they of course are heretics. >> let's hope that does happen. as always very good to have you on the show and good luck with the protests that you're planning in england to call atrocities that are being committed. >> pleasure to be here. >> turning from the crisis in iraq to conflicting reports of an attack between ukraine and russia. ukrainian officials said friday that an armed russian convoy had been partly destroyed after crossing the country's border. moscow dismis

hezbollah did that for years with two israelis they kidnapped.urned out they were dead the whole time. israel changed a lot of prisoners in return for their bodies. they'll play that cruel game and won't let israelis know. i think the fact that kerry and the president were very angry about this, this is a fundamental issue, whatever the merits of the case, they are quite strongly on israel's side. even if you're ag nostic and have a cease-fear, the only way to progress and save lives then don't honor it and kidnap and kill, that means everything is gone and you are truly to blame. i just hope that we stick to our hard and consistent and honest line now in saying this will rest on the shoulders of hamas. the own us is on them to establish a real cease-fire. >> if only the rest of the world would likewise get on that program. >> the rest of the world's reaction to what's happening in gaza is shocking. especially in europe. it is a resurge enlt of anti-semitism, all over the world, don't tell me it's anti-zionism. a sign in germany saying this is a

you have hezbollah. and you have the regime. the syrian regime, and you have this area between the hammer and the anvil. it cannot really--full version of lebanon. the situation, the culture, and the faction. even know the sunnies are against what is hall b happening, and everyone is backing the army. >> thank you very much, indeed, for more on that story. thank you. >>> kurdish troops have fought off an attack from fighters from the islamic state troop near mosul. 100 fighters and 16 kurds were killed in the fight in the town of zumar. kurdish troops pulled back to allow the iraqi air force to bomb positions. 23 pro government fighters were killed overnight by rebels south of baghdad. >>> three al jazeera journalists have spent 315 days. they were convicted after being falsely accused of helping the outlawed muslim brotherhood. al jazeera continues to demand their release. >>> a blast in the country's worst central accident in a year. adrian brown has more from the scene. >> reporter: a preliminary inquiry shows the explosion m

they can't stand hamas or hezbollah. what's interesting is what happened to hollywood, in 2006, 85 entertainers put out an ad condemning hezbollah and hamas. you haven't heard much of anything than penelope cruz, not supporting -- >> joan rivers. >> joan rivers and howard stern. >> and madonna, not supported israel, but compared the palestinian children to little flowers. >> let me just say, i don't know how you guys missed it, but it's not only that the united states has expressed concern about the slaughter taking place there -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa. you're saying the israelis are -- >> they could wipe out everyone they want to. >> and they haven't. >> not only have people said, what's going on, the united nations has now said it -- >> the united nations? >> terrorists are the slaughterers. >> what are you talking about? but military, when you have someone who is not a soldier getting killed, you know, you see children -- it's just upsetting. israel is making a smart move here. israel is trying to regain moral authority

and it is maliki in iraq who has failed iraq and the intervention in syria, including hezbollah, going cross borders and becoming one of the cross-border armies that fought in syria and gave rise unfortunately to the terrorist, the sunni terrorist, like isis or isil or whatever you want to call them. what is going to be done to have that grand bargain work? i would very much be interested in details on your part. and don't tell me about the secular region thing because you understand it has been rejected already. >> i think we will answer that one question. robin being the good journalist she is gets about 3-4 questions in one. we will get to the two of you afterwards. >> when you talk about iranian ambition and you use the example on iranian influence in iraq you should never forget iraq invaded iran for eight years and it was arab regional countries supported them. irans were killed and damage. saddam used chemical weapons to hundreds of thousands of iranians were killed or injured. saudi arabia, arabs, the united states supported the use of chemical weapons. you forget this part of

. >> you agree with me, hamas, hezbollah, isis, isil, al okayed saturday, you agree with me, they'reerror groups, right? >> i don't know these groups -- >> you don't know anything about these groups? you don't follow the news? >> i know -- >> you don't think al qaeda is a terrorist group? >> i know -- >> is al qaeda a terror group? >> i don't know al qaeda. i know the report you give me. >> you don't think hamas -- hamas's charter says to obliterate israel, is that a terror group? >> i don't know that. if what you report is accurate, then it would be true. >> you don't know what's being done in the name of your religion. >> i don't know -- i don't know these people. >> you don't know what's being done in the name of allah and jihad. against the infidels? how about the group isis in iraq, that is saying to christians either convert to islam or die, is that a terror group to you? >> if they're saying that, you're right. >> dr. jasser, i'm surprised that the good imam doesn't seem to know about these groups -- >> i don't know them personally, sean. >> you've had your peace, and with all

hezbollah and hamas have both held human remains. >> we do not know where the body is at this point inent than having a live captive. the israelis have waited over a decade at times to negotiate for the return of those remains. so this really frees up the israeli politically. i know that is a grim calculation, but it frees them up to do what they need to do on the offensive side and also to make some sort of a cease-fire agreement now that they don't have to worry about leaving someone behind. that is a big deal for israel. >> of course, you look at this and what does this mean for the broader fight. a tragedy when anyone dies in the situation. a 23-year-old israeli soldier, we know now thought to be captive and missing is now dead. we will be back with more on the breaking news straight ahead. hi, credit report site andour i have a problem. i need to speak with your fraud resolution department. ugh, we don't have that. what should i tell him? just make that super annoying modem noise... (shuuuuuuuh....zzzzzzzz...de ee...dong...shuuuhh...) hello? not all credit report sites are equal.

deposit force and hezbollah has almost entirely taken the city of liha in eastern damascus. syrian jets launched four strikes on the city. they have been fighting the islamic brigades since april. army has taken full control of liha. >>> meanwhile five people have been killed in the syrian city of homs. carried out by militia from the national defense force. libya's newly elected parliament is asking the united nations for international prevention to protect civilians. also voted to dismantle militias responsible for violence around the country. complarclark withclashing with e area. >>> effort to stop the spread of ebola. kenya's medical association is warning it is not prepared to than ebola epidemic. it's a major transport hub to flights to west africa. >> in my view this remains rather casual and we don't think enough seriousness has been displayed. it is imperative that most reporting place so you reduce the risk of the disease getting into our borders. >> well, there's no cure for ebola. but an american company has sent limited supplies of a serum to liberia that might

yes. >> you support hezbollah, al kwaeda.ou once said about september 11th you were very clear you were on team bin laden, not team obama. you supported what happened on september 11th and said it was a good thing. i know where you're coming from. >> let me tell you something, sean, sean. >> you're the enemy of free people. >> i'm the enemy? >> and lives of innocent people. >> i'm the enemy of your own policy. >> that makes you an enemy of freedom. >> we can talk over each other. >> i don't want sharia law. >> you don't have assurance to come into a place -- >> so you're threatening to come and get me? is that what you're say something >> i am saying sharia will be implemented in the whole world you want a world islamic kalife. >> yes. we've been promised by the prphet >> and infidels? >> let me tell you something. >> i am a christian. i don't want your religion. >> your society is -- >> i believe in freedom. >> prostitution, gambling. using. >> your version of morality is cutting peoples' heads off you don't agree with. >> o