a house appropriations support committee looked at the proposal for hhs. this is about two hours. >>> monk, mr. secretary, it's generally my pleasure to welcome you to the subdmooit committee. we're looking forward to hearing your testimony. mr. secretary, your responsibilities are many. your department's responsible for ensure properly payments of medicare and medicaid dollars for overseeing buy kbroe medical research that could save millions of lives, for helping families break the cycle of poverty and protecting our nation against bioterror and pandemic events. the cuts promodes this month are extensive and span the reach of your agency. i believe there's always fat that can be trimmed and priorities that can be reordered, but i will ask you some questions this morning about whether this budget leaves america sufficiently prepared to respond to a pan demmic, a new disease like zika or bioterrorism event. i'll ask questions about how you'll fulfill your mission of enhancing the health and well-being of americans at these levels of funding and i'll ask ho

. $15 billion in cuts to hhs is untenable. much like speaker ryan's healthcare bill that failed, the trump administration's budget request for the department of health and human services would eliminate critical resources and programs for low income and working families. it would also decimate the national institutes of health. the world's foremost biomedical research institution. severe negative consequences for public health departments across our country. to be clear, president trump is proposing to cut nih funding by $6 billion. this is really an understatement, since we just saw that the administration wants to cut an additional $1.2 billion from nih in 2017 as well. and i hope you will tell us whether or not you agree or disagree with that additional cut. cutting billions from nih would be devastating, cancer research, alzheimer's research, hiv/aids research as well as research to prevent cure of any other disease that is causing misery for millions of americans and their families. make no mistake, this cut will turn bac

this morning i'll talk to hhs secretary tom price who is overseeing the overall. kathleen sebelius, former hhs secretary who oversaw the implementation of obamacare and governor john kasich of ohio who says both parties need to work together. it's all coming up this morning on "meet the press." >> "meet the press" comes your way right here on nbc 10 right after this newscast at 10:30. >>> a local music legend is being remembered this morning. joni sledge has died. ♪ we are family >> she and her sisters formed the group sister sledge in the 1970s here in philadelphia. best known for the dance anthem "we are family." joni sledge was found dead in her home in arizona. she was 60 years old. her publicist says the family was shocked because she wasn't sick. the cause of her death is not yet known. the group tweeted out this picture last night with the message that says "we love you joni." >>> a traffic alert. a heads-up for drivers in montgomery county. a bridge construction project that will lead to road restrictions in the week ahead. the details coming up. >>> a wil

part two is tom price at hhs brings more choice and competition for left the states open up markets which will lower prices even more. part three is the other bills will be passing. interesting shopping across state lines. associate health care plans. medical liability reform, those will drop premiums even further and make health care even more accessible than what cbo is saying. >> bret: in this report, the cbo says basically you have to wait until 2026 to see costs go down. who is going to wait that long? >> that's actually not true. they say costs start going down in 2020 when the reforms kick in. we are doing a transition period. we want to make sure people can still have coverage and there's a seamless transition. they say in 2020, stabilizes the markets. don't forget one thing. obamacare is in the middle of a collapse. only five states have one insurer left. over 1,000 counties in america have only one insurer left. humana announced they are pulling out. that means zero plans in 2018 for those people. by the way, we got a letter from anthem, one of the biggest insurers, telling us i

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the hhs secretary.hey are selling what is not available to the other legislators on capitol hill right now. >> i think rand paul was wrong about the stuff he said. ryan said he wants to have something like the tom price bill which most republicans agree with, and rand paul said it would allow the individual mandate to stay. that's not right. i checked with the ryan people. it's gone. and if it isn't gone, that plan won't pass. lou: indeed the refundable income credits, the difference between that and the subsidy would be? >> i thought were going to tell me. lou: it's a question. what's the difference between them. conservatives are irate at that. >> i know they are. they will come together. i remember tax reform in 1986. there were so many disagreements. there was no chance it was going to pass right you have until the moment it passed. lou: i think passage of this bill, this obamacare light from the house in which it has been he questions toward, it's in darkness, could be more harmful to the president

that that will bring down prices and that's before tom price, the secretary of hhs, brings forward a lot of reforms that let the states go back and open up market based health care system. we really believe these two combinations. this bill and what hhs can to to dee regulate the market will be very successful and helpful. >> let's talk about the politics of this if we can. you say you and the white house are on the exact same page. how can you say that with all the distancing that we see, that those close to president trump or supportive of him right now are doing about your legislation? his friend christopher ruddy says they're doing trump a disservice, breitbart attacks you day after day. you really think you and the white house are on the same page? >> i actually do. those web sites have been attacking me from day one. i'm used to this sort of thing. this is what you deal with in this job. >> they're trying to get the grassroots to oppose your bill. >> that is not where the trump white house is. the president is going to be talking about this tonight in i think tennessee. we're w

states and governors that ability to customize medicaid for their needs without having to go to say hhs for work requirements and things like that, so we are working on more federalism for the medicaid population to give it governors that ability to be completely free to customize medicaid to their needs and other issues we are looking at art how will the tax credit works in those kind of things. the poor-- point being is that we are listening to all people in our conference and making sure that we can make good changes that improve the bill, refine the belt, the big pieces are all there and the president, this is where-- i think he just got off the news media with the biggest conservative caucus. he just worked with them and they are all on board because they with the president and the rest of us have been talking about improvements to this bill, so the improvements are being made as we go through the process. basically more federalism, making sure we respect the fact that states can experiment and taylor medicaid to meet their needs and as we get through this we are finding out this i

finally, guys, hhs secretary tom price are taking plan of action later on the road today heading forohio to meet with business leaders. busy day. heather: thank you, griff. ben carson, remember way back, he is set to be confirmed today of housing and urban development, finally teed up for a vote after being nominated in december. ryan zinke sworn in overnight leafing three of president trump's positions to be filled. >> listen. >> ryan's leg is edged into eternity. thank you. [applause] >> the president recognizing the widow of owens. quote, sorry, owens wife, you're not helping yourself or your husband's, fired him anyway. don't miss former u.s. nayy seal live in the 8:00 o'clock of "fox & friends" to react on this outrageous tweet. heather: lost his job and now deleted twitter account. liberals quick to join in. jackie: todd has something to say about that with one-minute commentary. >> i sure do have something to say. anybody who attacks a gold-star family is a steaming pile of garbage. president trump paid tribute to carryn owens. but we all know how much liberals low the militar

former hhs secretary. i have a feeling you'll be back as this debate isn't ending any time soon. >> you bet. >> the winners and losers under the republican plan. there is a lot of irony in the answer. the russia i will never wash my hair again. new pantene doesn't just wash your hair, it fuels it. making every strand stronger. so tangles don't stand a chance. because strong is beautiful. new neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair wrinkles? your time is up! with the proven power of retinol. reduces wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena® >>> welcome back. panelists here, rick santelli from cnbc. helene cooper, pentagon correspondent for the new york times and auth are on of this book "madam president." stephanie cutter and columnist for the new york times. let's dive into politics. rick santelli, you're a free market guy, where are you on this and where are you on the plan? too much obamacare? too little obamacare? >> it's a mess. you can't have that discussion unless you know what the service costs. gi to the doc

this morning, hhs secretary tom price said he is optimistic as well. listen. >> i believe it's going to pass, i do. we are working with every single person trying to address the concerns that they have. i've had meetings in the past two weeks, i've got more meetings this week and today. met with the governor's last week when they were in town. we're trying to address all those issues in a positive way so we can get to patient centered health care. >> just this morning, big problems in the senate look like they are rearing their heads. tom cotton, who has been described many issues as being a presidents wing man tweeting out a series of tweets this morning, basically saying it's dead on arrival in the senate. " going on to say, g.o.p. should and act like -- the cbo score isn't due out until next week. what matters in the long run is more affordable health care for americans, now . it looks like the congressmen have their work cut out for the them. >> jon: fascinating to watch this process. john roberts at the white house, thank you. opposition to the cu

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what is even worse as she mentioned if the board is not appointed us onappoint it is ru, secretary of hhs. so you have one member in the executive branch would be performing a job that historically has been part of the legislative branch. i mentioned macro earlier and as you well know for the first time, it is forcing everyone into a quality value-based payment world and if we do that right, not only would drive down medicare costs but more importantly it can improve the quality of care our senior citizens get. the problem is then instead of f the fossil targeted type of approach, again back to what mary said, ipab would just be a blunt instrument like instant of using a scalpel you would use a sledgehammer on your ipad. and to put this in context, remember medicare doesn't even pay for the cost of taking care of patients right now. the last statistics i saw it picks up 80 cents on the dollar for what it cost me to take care of my patients. so when you figure that in to keep the practice running then you bring in all of the incredible bureaucracies whether it is these ongoing changes and

>> remember he and tom price head of hhs, they spent years working on this bill or a version of this bill. so it's much more the intellectual brain child of tom ryan and tom price than anyone else. donald trump has been out there, at least the last couple of weeks saying in a full throated way he supports the bill. he's the president. so he's going to own anything he signs. >> here's something that bothers me about it. in 2009, when obamacare passes 22 page by the way were incomprehensible. i tried to read, i got through about ten pages, i'm being sarcastic. in it, it provided a lot of authority to hhs secretary at the time sebelius and the democrats were thrilled about that. the republicans were furious about. that now we're fast forward to now and now all these provisions in it for the secretary of hhs to have authority, it's now price who is the architect of this bill. >> correct. >> here's the problem, though, is that the bill passes the house, the senate, if it does and it's like say it's a thousand pages or 2,000 35i7bpat gets zipped across town to hhs, they add the regulations

in this case with the market place that they cannot score that reflects what the hhs secretary can do to create more opportunities in the marketplace. with medicare party this cbo thought it would cost 40% more they thought they would have twice as many people and injured through the individual exchange that number is now 10 million people so this is something the cbo does not do very well as we must come up with a plan to create more options -- not just average back says it doesn't matter if there is a ticket if you can get off on what is the point if you're to paid for $6,000? vat with a bronze plaque and that was offered this year? twenty to have opportunity to have coverage and health care because it has not been right. >> talked-about of markup. >> added time and to many judicial nominations are from the ideological rancor it is hard to see a nominee that is suitable for both parties said they can agree to. in addition to professional xx odds and i believe mr. t6 meets that heidi s. this is from salazar 2006. this week we will begin the committee hearings on the confirmation of j

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attorney preet bharara may have been overseeing an investigation into hhs secretary tom price. the key question, did the white house know. the journalist who broke the story joins me ahead. >>> president trump pledged to do right by our veterans and today at the white house he was holding what was billed as a listening session. you know the president is committed to an issue when he announce there is will be a meeting at the southern white house. as you watch this, bear in mind that the gentleman at the president's side is the new secretary of veterans affairs, david shulkin. >> we're having a meeting tonight at what we call afekts gnat -- affectionately the southern white house. everybody always wants to go to the southern white house. are you going to be at that meeting. you heard about it, right? it's going to be great. all about the v.a. >> are you going to be at the meeting? why is the president holding the meeting of mar-a-lago? because it's the most convenient location. even though at the very moment the president said that he was already in a veterans affairs meeting wi

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especially in culmination with what secretary price can do at hhs. a lot of power over there to turn the levers. get real reforms in the market. restore to the states the ability to make some of these decisions appeared we have reached out to the states and may have said please. one side fits all doesn't work for our state. that's part of why the markets are collapsing. in combination, the answer is yes and i think we're going to get it done. we are proud of the product. it's online and people can read it and give us their feedback. we will have an open and transparent markup in the near future. >> bret: chairman brady and walton, thank you very much. president trump has signed his second executive order instituting a travel ban for potential immigrants and there's a lot of finger-pointing going on over there president's that his predecessor had the trump tower phone -- phones tapped. >> white has announced president trump will ask the courts to revoke his initial immigration bill, the one that's been mired in the courts and some 48 different cases f

that we can pass that are outside reconciliation and all the things the government can do that the hhs secretary controls to expand the market and deregulate and bring more choice and competition. we are making fine tuning touches to the reconciliation bill, working on getting the consensus in the house and senate to make sure we make this the best possible legislation. now that we have this encouraging score from the cbo, this gives more room to work on. moves through the committee process. we have gone through two committees, we have two more to go. then to the senate. this is a work in progress and we are excited about it. i am frankly encouraged. even cbo is telling us we stabilize the market, lower premiums, lowers the deficit, saves money and more importantly of course they're going to say if we're going to stop forcing people to buy something they don't want to buy, they are not going to buy it. that's why you have the uninsured numbers. >> bret: if you are encouraged by the cbo report, what is the cbo report you are discouraged by? >> i've seen a lot. i've been reading them hal

of the house coming here and telling the president, we didn't have the votes, that didn't stop the hhs secretary from going back to talk to that freedom caucus one last time to see if they could win some of those dissenting members over. but at 4:00, that phone call, where they didn't have the votes, it didn't do any good for either side for them to bring it to a vote. and the president made a phone call to a "washington post" reporter, three takeaways, one aca stays in place, but it means that republicans, many of them who were elected on a promise to repeal and replace obamacare did not keep their promise. he also said chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, but i think the republicans' ability to having the three branches of power to get things done, there's so many high-stakes things coming up and how do they get to do that? and the president expressed this surprise at this big chasm within the republican party, and i will tell you that i just ran into sean spicer, it's clear that they felt that there were members of that freedom caucus, that even though they said they wanted to be able to

price will do at hhs, what we will do legislatively going forward. this is going to take time to get all those other pieces in place, but we are committed to reforming this. >> reporter: and guys, that's really the crux of their pitch right now, look, they get it, not everybody likes what this house bill represents right now, but it's just the first piece of a three-step process. legislatively they'll be addressing more later. obviously hhs secretary tom price can do a lot unilaterally on the regulatory side of things. but the dynamics are still very complicated. conservatives want changes, moderates if those changes come could jump overboard. guys, this is the legislative process. it's not always pretty. it's going to be ugly. this is far from a dead issue but there's clearly some hurdles that remain. >> it is the sausage-making process. >>> breaking news right now, also from capitol hill, our senior congressional reporter manu raju just spoke exclusively with adam schiff, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, about their second

sections that say the neck or secretary shall, it lives hundreds of discretion to the secretary of hhs to figure it out. they did not think that president -- trump would be president. thisrice walked us through morning, these are all the things we can do using that flexibility in reverse to open see marketplace, to -- i one of the brilliant state senators we have in wisconsin. rice'sin because of tom -- price's regulatory authority, they can say you guys and set up your own health care marketplace, your own regulatory structure so that wisconsin can have whatever kind of plans wisconsin wants to have an the a'sublican tax credit, the hs and risk pools, you can use that for those. deregulate and have the patient centered states rights run system. part three are the other bills we would like to pass that we think make the situation even better, but are not necessary to fix a problem, make it even better. that is what interstate shopping, medical liability reform are about. what the president is eager to do is to crisscross this country making the case for those policies and i think it mi

this law, obamacare, has 1,442 sections or instances that gives the secretary of hhs enormous amountsf discretion to administer heare, meaning i don't think brack obama and nancy pelosi and harry reid ever thought donald trump would be president and tom price secretary of hhs. so number two, administrative action where the health and human services secretary deregulates the marketplace allowing more competition to come into the marketplace. number three. and this is where i think there's a lot of confusion all over the map, additional legislation that we feel is important and necessary to give us a truly competitive health care marketplace. so think of things like interstate shopping. that's a reform relowe long beld in, we think is important to give people more choices. association health plans. let a farmer buy her insurance through a national plan, or a restauranture buy through the national restaurant association, buy through plans nationwide. we would love for this to be in the reconciliation bill but the rules don't allow that to happen. so we're going to move those bills indepe

heard president trump said there will repeal the affordable care act i heard the news secretary of hhs said w.ac will lose insurance the cost will not go up but none of that is true under the current plan under consideration in the everybody knows and why it is hidden from public view. politicians love good pressnce compa the fifth thought it was a good plan that would not tryuc to rush that throw this is worse for everyone the super rich get a big tax cut in all the fees levied go away. tucked inside there is a specific tax cut for the ceo for a select group of individuals and never presented lot of them. but that doesn't make a right. i hope they find us away to work together. teefour teefour . . >> and now live on c-span2 at the hearing on the future of the veterans choice program which allows eligible veterans to receive health care in their community read them waiting for a va appointment or traveling to a va facility. testifying tonight veterans affairs secretary david shulkin and senate armed services committee chair john mccain. bill rowe of tennessee chairs the house center of

things that gives states an governors the ability to customize without for their needs having to go to hhs for work requirements and things like that. what we are working on is even more federalism for the medicaid population to give governors the ability to be completely free to customize medicaid to their needs. other issues we are looking at on -- are how well the tax credit would work and those kinds of things, the point being what we are doing is listening to all people in our conference in making sure that we can make the changes that improve the bill that -- and refine the bill, the big pieces are all there. the president, i think he just got off the news, he was meeting with the republican study committee that you and i cut our teeth on. he worked with them and they are they with these president and the rest of us have been talking about improvements. those improvements are being made as we go through this process. it is basically more federalism, making sure that we respect the fact that states can experiment taylor medicaid to meet their needs and as we get through this what we'r

a lot of the repair job has to be done by hhs. secretary price has a lot of credibility.for republicans. you see judge gorsuch is going to be confirmed. they will have to use the read rule to confirm him. they look over at the house, they're very close. i'm an optimist. >> you talk about the republicans not doing so well, what about nunes? was that good for the republicans? >> i read a record that he did not apologize, a conflicting report. i have known devon nunes a long time. i believe he must have been deeply troubled. i am laying back on that story. i think you referred earlier in the show, this is very weird from a lot of angles. a lot of obama people. it's just weird. >> we have a lot to learn. anyway, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, thank you for watching us. see you back here tomorrow night 6: p.m. eastern. weill all over it. first, "hardball" with chris matthews starts right now. >> loser, for hardball. >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in ug what. this is a city sacked by barbarians right now, nothing stands where it did before t. chairman of the house

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first, health care, a study claimed today by the head of hhs saying nobody will be financially worse off under the gop health care plan. >> i firmly believe that nobody will be worse off financially in the process we're going through understanding that they'll have choices that they can select the kind of coverage that they want for themselves and for their family, not the government forcing them to buy. >> okay. and those choices may include being worse off. here is the estimates of how many people could lose their health insurance, best case scenario is 6 million, goes up to 15 million. tomorrow, cbo scores ryan's bill, counting up what it costs. that could rebuke the replin plan and some of the claims. meanwhile, senator cotton, a conservative, saying today, that even passing that bill would actually cost potentially the majority for the republican caucus. >> i'm afraid that if they vote for this bill, they're going to put the house majority at risk next year. >> but the bill's author paul ryan is confident the process he says this whole republican replace plan is actually histori

now the s hhs, chosen by donald trump. he said it's not going to collapse. our view has been simple. once president trump and speaker ryan, leader mcconnell say they are no longer going to repeal, of course we want to make aca better and we will work to improve it. if you repeal it, you can't do it. you have nothing. they are having a great deal of trouble replacing it. >> bret: the markets for obamacare show demand has leveled off. prices for premiums and deductibles are skyrocketing for a lot of people. >> some states go up and some go down. >> bret: how would democrats fix it? >> there are some ways. there would have to be compromises with the republicans. republicans. we moved give the state insurance commissioners more authority to limit the price increases. >> bret: why not put out your plan? >> you can't do it if you're going to try to repeal act. once you repeal it, what are we building on? >> bret: candidate trump ran on it. you have 11 democrats up for reelection from states were 82% or more of the counties were won by donald trump. >> when they go

there will be more at hhs and more up on the hill. but the president needs to give air cover. on the critical things where the republicans are having disagreements, he needs to put the emphasis on one side other other of those disagreements. we have a growing element within the republican house caucus, they said when we said repeal and replace, we didn't mean the repeal place. he needs to say we meant it when we said it, now, you get it done. paul: you were able to get some democratic help on your tax bill and education bill. i don't see that happening with president trump. it looks like most of the democrats will be total resist answer. do the republicans have to be repaired to pass all these things on their own? >> that was the point of my column thursday in the journal to say this will be a heavy lift. the ground work that should have been done in november, december, january to bring some of them to make them more pliable was not done. so they will have to depend upon passing these with virtually republican votes only. they can't have many defections in the senate. and in t

phase two, all the regulatory flexibility that the secretary of hhs has to deregulate the marketplace and lower the cost and stabilize the market, that is what tom price will do. there are 1400 instances in this law that gives the secretary discretion, unlike the obama administration, he will use that to bring more market freedom and stabilization. that is phase two. billsthree is to pass the that we want to pass that we cannot put in reconciliation because of those budget rules. an example of that is interstate stopping -- chopping across state lines. we think that is critical. as you know, you cannot put that in a budget reconciliation bill, otherwise it would be filibustered. we believe in association health plans. with people through their save -- trade associations, restaurateurs for the national restaurant association, small businesses through the nfib plan , by their health insurance and nationwide line pools. we know the rules do not allow us to put that in reconciliation. medical liability reform, the practice of defense and medicine is cranking up health care costs practicin