vance i will start with you, you call yourself a hillbilly, what sat hillbilly? >> well, i think it is somebody with some attachment to the broad region of appalachia, whether they grew up there like my grandparents or the descendants of people who migrated from there and a pejorative in some way if it is used from the outside but mamaw always said if used by people inside the family that is over, my grandmother. >> dickerson: diane, you say you write in your book 0 deported long before i fully understood what that word meant i learned to dread it. >> yeah. it was a topic of conversation in my household every day and since i was a kid, my parents knew i had to be prepared of the possibility of them being deported one day, so i lived my life that way. >> dickerson: and you write that you were nine years old after 9/11, amani, and obviously traumatic for the nation, what was it like for your family? >> well, i mean, that year was the same year i heard my first racial sure, so it was definitely very a huge turk point for my family, our house gotti peed and egg, the

they abound in the tradition of hillbilly music. just to give you an example, in the middle of the 20th century, a great country music duo recorded a song called "knoxville girl." it recounts the murder of a young woman by her lover, who accuses her of being faithless. go down, go down, you knoxville girl, with the dark and roving eye. go down, go down, you knoxville girl. you will never be my bride. he murders her with a stick and then comes back to his family's cabin with blood all over him. he tells his mother i had a nosebleed. in this version, he is in jail, and what we see is knoxville girl is traceable back to an event that took place in england in 1684. it was variously called oxford town, wexford girl, tomorrow i shall hang. all of these different titles and different events that get narrated in different ways, as randy said, the transformation of oral literature is its essence, its ability to speak to different audiences in different circumstances. and so, in a frontier town like knoxville, tennessee, way, way out in the 1

vance, author of "hillbilly elegy,".u have an interesting opt ed in the "new york times" talking about how president obama surprised you. you made a prediction when he first came into office that ended up not being accurate. let me read it for everybody. i suspected there were skeletons lurking in his clauosetcloset. i secretly guessed before the end of his term some major personal scandal would reveal his family life to be a sham. how are you feeling today given that he has become this sort of pillar of a family man? >> sure, well, he obviously surprised me in a good way and i think it's important to contrast president obama's legacy to president clinton who i came up in politics paying attention to for the first time and what happened with president clinton, and i think what was so important about president obama is he came from pretty stuff circumstances himself and whether you disagree with his politics as i do or not, he was a really good husband and father, and i think that is setting an important example for kids

coming from because they weren't actually on the radar screen for most of the pollsters -- the "hillbillylegy" people, the people who -- the blue collar, those who felt disaffected, those who the -- a lot of white collar -- i'm sorry -- white blue-collar workers. so i think he basically completely defied the odds and defied the pollsters. >> i still feel like a couple months out from the election, people are still having a hard time actually pinning down who voted for him and why, but there's not one sterling reason, that it's still a hodgepodge of reasons. >> when you look at the whole thing, i mean, true, there are a lot of blue-collar voters, and when they always say women, they usually mean white women, 'cause black women did not vote for donald trump. let's be really clear there. most women of color did not vote for him. however, when you drill down a little bit more, it really speaks to the cynicism in this nation. a lot of people looked at it and said, "eh, not so much." there were people who didn't vote -- a lot of people who did not vote. >> half the electorate. >> yeah, and that

hillbilly elegy, a memoir of growing up in a poor rust belt town of ohio. many of these authors have or will appear on book tv on c-span2. you can watch them on our website, book tv.org. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the best-- book festival has been going on now, for 11 hours. we have done 35 events at a total of 73. that 36th event is ella morton for "atlas obscura". if you have not seen this book you must've been out of the country or something because she is everywhere. "atlas obscura", i need-- incredible website. things that happen in your backyard that you may or may not know about. has anyone in the room seen the john mayer clock? we can all see that tomorrow.owu ella has been working on "atlas obscura" for five years and has put this book together, more than 700 different out-- entries of amazing things that has a happened around the world. ladies and gentlemen, ella morton. f [applause]. ge >> thank you.ef on delighted to be here. i can't think of anywhere i would rather be on a saturday night then on a light-- in a librar

vance, author of hillbilly elegy, actor diane guerrero, the author of in the country we love, and amani al-khatahtbeh, who wrote muslim girl, a coming of age. then a panel discussion with journalist michele norris of the race card project, jeffrey goldberg, editor of the atlantic, "washington post" columnist michael gerson and atlantic columnist david frum,

today we are going to talk about country music, hillbilly music.

i go back to that hillbilly book that j.d. vance wrote. victor david hansen wrote a piece about this, they believe every single word he said because they lived it. the coastal elites and beltway elites don't experience the way the country experienced the last eight years, so i think he was speaking to them. it's just possible to do both. and i wish he would do more of both. >> i'm glad you mentioned davos because what happened there in the past few days, as a lot of people have highlighted in this country, the leader of china gave a speech that could have been given by an american president in a different age. and, in effect, was a call to free trade, or their version of free trade. >> their version of free trade. he wants to replace the transpacific partnership with a china-led alliance of free traders in the asia-pacific region. i don't think that's going to fly with japan or with south korea or any other -- the pill even fill peens or wherever those artificial islands are being built. donald trump's first supreme court nominee is part o

vance, author of "hillbilly -- memoir of a family and culture in crisis." also "usa today" columnist kirsten powers and cnn correspondent phil mattingly. i'm anxious to get your thoughts on the steve mnuchin hearing. he's the nominee to peculiar the next treasure secretary. we had three hours of coverage. he was asked a lot of tough questions. ethics questions among other issues. how do you think he did? >> i think he did well. he wanted to get out there and correct the record what he thinks is an unfair portrayal of his role in the financial crisis, after the financial crisis and buying failed indymac and turning it into one west. you are hearing a lot of stories out there push by democrats and people who oppose him. old women who have lost their homes because of the practices at one west and he really tried to set the record straight on that. one thing about steve mnuchin at that hearing. he talked briefly about the dollar. you recall last week donald trump made in comments the dollar was too strong. he said i'm not going to comment on the value of the do

then next week we'll have the author of the best-selling book, "hillbilly, for a derailed look at white voter americans." and next week at noon, thomas freedman will survey the global landscape in a trump presidency and beyond. that night, next thursday night, a week from tomorrow we'll preview the many cabinet nominees and other appoints made over the last few weeks since the end of winter quarter, fall quarter and the beginning of winter quarter here on campus with a panel of top washington journalists. you can find out more about those three events and many others by going to our one at politics.chicago.edu, this is the first event for the iop with a new presidential administration on the horizon. and as we have done, we want to remind everyone we don't endorse points of view. so, in the spirit of that and open discourse and rigorous inquiry here at the university we invite you to bring your best questions to tonight's conversation. we'll also open up the floor to questions tonight from students. we'll put a microphone in the middle of the aisle and invite you to come forward with yo

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"out front," now, the author of "hillbilly elegy: request memoir of family culture and crisis."truth about trump." michael, i've known donald trump for over a decade. and over that time, one of his favorite topics was discussing the ratings of a tv show. he appeared on every conversation he included that. at some point he included it. you also spent a lot of time with trump and talking to him what he cares about. this obsession on crowd sizes, vote totals, this is the core of who he is, isn't it? >> well, it is. and, you know, he used to pressure his pr man for "the apprentice" to go out and push the media to report that it was number one. and at the time it was number 70, number 72, so it caused a problem for the folks who work for him. i also think, erin, we have to be aware of when he fights with the most dishonest people in the world, which include me and you, he's not fighting with anybody else. so it's convenient to him to have this battle, this running battle as he says, even if it's invented, with the media. >> so j.d., you know, the reason he does this, regardless of wh

next tuesday journalist alex will be in conversation with jd vance, the author of "hillbilly ellogy gorts a detailed look at white rural voters in america. thomas friedman will survey the global landscape in a trump administration and beyond. we will review cabinet nominees and through the equfall quarterd into winter quarter with a panel of top journalists. and can you go to our website at politicschicago.edu. this is the first event for the iop with a new presidential administration on the horizon. as we have done over the course of the past four years, we want to remind everybody that we don't endorse points of view but we're dedicated providing a forum where different points of view can be heard and tested. so if t in the spirit of that and vigorous discourse we invite you to bring questions to tonight's conversation. we will open up the floor to questions tonight from student and put a microphone in the middle of the aisle and invite to you come forward with your questions when we do we ask that you make your question a question and keep it short to the point so we can get to as many

and he would take white house parties where literally a bunch of hillbillies would come in. >> i believe that steve bannon gave an interview to the wall street journal shortly after president trump's speech and made the comparison as well to president jackson, said it was the toughest speech that he's heard or that he's seen or read since president jackson. >> i think today was a very tough speech. very tough speech. >> do you feel it was too tough? >> no. you know why i don't? because i admire trump for doing it. i probably wouldn't have done it, but i admire him for standing up -- >> not my president. not my president. >> okay. thank you. >> there are a lot of protests going on within a handful of blocks here. >> that's par for the course. that's right. let's face it, trump won, but i think it's a milestone. what was your question now? i forgot the question. >> the speech that at least steve bannon mentioned that he had heard, you had made the comparison to andrew jackson. maybe it wasn't the type of speech that some were looking to hear on a day like today. >> when you think about it,

topping the list is jd vance's hillbilly elegy, his memoir of going up in a poor rust belt time in ohio. he plans to do go back to ohio from california and final paperwork to create a nonprofit group called our ohio renewal. next on the booklist, three days in january fox news anchor brett bear on president eisenhower's final days in office. he's followed by fellow fox news anchor bill o'reilly and historian martin dugan's account of japan's defeat during world war ii in killing the rising sun. princess diarist by the late actress carrie fisher followed by eight ctv's and jurado games the magnolia story. our look at the current nonfiction sellers reported by the new york times continues with the undoing project by michael lewis. he details the nobel prize winning work of oncologist neil, and amos diversity on rethinking assumptions about the decision-making process.

continues with a jd vance reflection on growing up in and moving away from the appellation region in: hillbilly eligibility followed by heisman trophy winner tim tebo shaken and hamilton, the published script of the pulitzer prize winning musical. next, vermont senator bernie sanders recalls his experiences during the democratic primary and shares his thoughts on current political and social issues in our revolution and wrapping up the list's pulitzer prize-winning journalist thomas friedman's thoughts on how technology and globalization have affected our lives in: thank you for being late. that's a look at some the current best-selling nonfiction books according to the washington post. many of these authors have or will appear on the tv. you can watch them on our website book tv.org. >> this weekend american history tv on c-span3 brings you three days of programming including tonight at 8:00 p.m. on lectures in history, the andrew jackson presidency with arizona state university professor jonathan barr. >> probably the most colorful presidents in the united states -- probably i could state alm