to folks that are less extreme than hirsi ali, none of them have anything to say f.ou agree with them and don't know anything about islam, that makes you an expert. faculty members at brandeis wrote a letter to the president of brandeis asking that the invitation be revoked, they are apparently experts on husband limb. >> this guy, webb, sent out congratulations, an e-mail to the muslim community for the pressure they put on brandeis. clearly, the president won't admit he's under e nor mouse pr -- enormous pressure to revoke it. he said based on her past statements that condemn islam as a religion, i had to do this. and he said some believe we're applying a double standard because the university rewarded other honorary degrees to people that made controversial remarks to israel but that wasn't on my watch he says. >> if it wasn't on his watch, great for him. it would be good to explain that standard before he revoked the invitation. the fact is brandeis gave honorary degrees to guys like tony kusnyer and said that the state israel, tony kusnyer said look, we don't ha

ayaan hirsi ali has been denied an honorary degree at this year's brandeis university commencement.ow, in a letter of complaint to brandeis, the counsel on american islamic council wrote, while she is free to spew anti muslim hate including her call for violence against the entire muslim world. she does not have a right to be honored for that hate by a prestigious university. >> i actually don't think that there's much emotion to be had by the people that care. i think all of the emotion and outrage would be on the people that would have supported ali from getting this honorary degree. she was a victim herself of female genital mutilation. she survived. she went to holland. she made a huge success of herself. she's come to america. she has continued to fight for women and the position is that don't say anything bad about the muslim world or we will shut you down. we'll make sure you don't get an honorary degree. they have bp able to get the university of michigan to not show the film. on what planet does that people with a brain cannot watch a film and make a decision what they thin

i spoke with alyan hirsi ali is dedicating her life to advancing the cause of women's freedom. she received attention for her work on "honor diaries," a documentary. >> a lot of it has to do with how women behave and the sexuality of women. as a woman you're stripped of your freedoms. for women, it becomes almost a matter of daily life. >> ms. ali is critical of islam and last night when she came on the program, she said she's no stranger to attempts to silence her. >> for the past 10 years i've been condemned by muslim organizations, relatives, any time that i bring up the treatment of women in islam. >> brandeis university has not yet made anybody a valuabv a va defend the situation. why try to silence this woman? part one of that interview aired last night and online right now and now part two with mr. cooper. it's my turn. you just told me the messenger matters. you just made that point. i'm giving you that. if the messenger matters, then care matters and care according to u.s. senator chuck schumer. >> take -- >> excuse me, mr. cooper, care according to chuck schumer. >> i

. >> i think we need to hear more from ayaan hirsi ali. where are the moderate muslims.reason i interviewed her is because i was coughing the story of a man who killed his two daughters in texas because necessity were wearing western garb mandating western men. >> we should be supporting ayaan, hirsi ali. doug schoen, monica crowley, thank you both. martha: shall we take a look at the markets? there is the big board. it just opened up a few minutes ago. investors hoping things stay that way this morning. up one point in the early going. the dow was 181 points after a report suggested interest rates may stay stable for now. but a lot of folks who watch the market closely believe in the end they have to start going up at some point. but that wraps they are and the market seems to like that the past couple days. also today as the debate over contempt for lois lerner continues at this hour, there is the live coverage of that oversight committee hearing. a new question on what to do with about the former irs official. can congress arrest her? you might be surprised by the ans

ayaan hirsi ali transferred money from his bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an "underserved season". and before he quit his friend's leaf-raking business fred frerick lawrence verge brt [ music playing] >> planet of the apes meets the shawshank redemptions. seven chimps staging a breakout at the st. louis zoo pulling down a tree branch to make a ladder. >> we had a ring leader to who got the log, put it on top and beckoned the others and lured 6-12 up with him. >> the zookeepers is using food to herd the fugitives back into c c c c c captive. >> they are very inventive. >> better than crawling down the sewer like andy. >>> collin kaepernick, star quarterback for the nfl 49ers are under investigation by the police in miami for what is called a suspicious incident involving a woman at a hotel. steve has more. what do they think happened? >> the incident took place april 1st in downtown miami. a woman's name is being withheld alleges she was in the hotel room with kaepernick and two other players. the group

you know what i mean, though, all the universities, they are all hands-off of hirsi ali. i think that's an interesting thing. from her standpoint, i think she has actually achieved more through being the target of care's ire than if she would have gotten the award. >> do you think it's fear? is it liberalism and maybe sympathy for islam or for care or is it just plain fear? >> no. i think it's two fold. i think brandeis they folded because they were afraid of being called islam maphobic. i need to point out something. care, they act like the muslim mafia. two minute after we call them out for their heavy handed tactics and intimidating universities and businesses, i get an emonthly -- email from chief spokesman saying why do i continue to lie? i literally pulled up the facts from brandeis in 2007 where they said they were concerned about a comment you made in 2007. that's all they did. i think it has little to do with what she said and a lot to do with care's heavy handed ak tick tactics. >> tom, in her remarks, she cites so many examples of how islam treats women. deny h

brandeis announced it would not award an honorary degree to ayaan hirsi ali.he was raised in a strict muslim family, but after refusing to marry the man her father chose for her, she left her family. she later wrote the screen play for a film entitled "submission" and she was quoted as saying i think we are at war with islam and there is nothing moderate about islam. that was back in november of 2007. here to explain and react to this, another example of appeasement, juan williams and the co-host of the fiber, good friend andrea. juan, i think this person is a hero. >> i'm with you. i don't get it at all -- >> all right. show is over. [ laughter ] >> look, you know, personally, i've been victimized by people including care, this organization that launched this effort to have them withdraw the honorary degree from her for just saying what's on my mind and anybody who says anything about islam, we're talking about here is radical extremist, the people who will kill you and in her case, mutilate you, cut your genitals, start war, arrange marriages, beat women and

note that the executive producer of "honor diaries" is the heroic somali human rights activist ayan hirsi ali. it features several courageous muslim women, including pakistani-born ahmed, a medical doctor who has an important column about the film and the campaign to suppress it at n.r.o. today. it also points to bonnie ewin as a champion of change, as so named by the white house, and matt boyle has a column that says, an amnesty advocate that president obama's white house publicly promoted as part of its champions of change series has now been indicted in federal court on charges of fraud. and it goes on down -- part of it reads, the second count -- indictment count alleges that u.n. violated a federal immigration law that prohibits bringing illegal aliens into the united states and harboring them, alleging she did so, quote, for the purpose of commercial advantage and private financial gain. so, apparently a champion of change is someone who is probable cause to believe is ngaged in human trafficking. mr. speaker, this country has to reawaken. if we're going to do for the next generation wh