i want to bring back in holly hughes, and samantha shocker from the young turks network, and jeff gardareat is the message of the biebs here? >> that he is being persecuted p by the law enforcement, and persecuted by the media, and that he is innocent, and in some ways he is innocent, and he is a 19-year-old and acting out the teen angst in the world. a lot of pressures and not handling the stardom the way he should, but he feels like he is a victim and in fact, he is not a victim, but he has to take control. >> and he is certainly, had, been booked here and looking at the mug shot which has made the rounds just about everywhere, and been changed online as well, and changed into the all sorts of images. samantha, is this going to be heightening his interest by the fans or lower it? >> i would have the say yes and no. i would say yes, it is going to affect his career as of now, because his recent criminal activity and the questionable behavior over the past year is only distracting from the music, and that is a shame, because justin bieber is talent and coming off as a joke, but i would sa

joining me now to discuss this is criminal defense attorney holly hughes and dr. gardere, a psychologist and assistant professor at the medical school. holly, how likely is it that the hospital or the local d.a. there will appeal the decision? >> at this point, miguel, i don't foresee them going any further because one of the most important things the hospital finally admitted in court on friday was that the fetus itself is not viable. the law that they were relying on in texas says you cannot withhold or withdraw life-saving support from a patient. and as the professioner who helped author that law pointed out there was no patient here. even if the hospital were to argue that perhaps the fetus was the patient, by admitting that fetus is no longer viable and that could be from the oxygen deprivation that the mother experienced, they're basically conceding there is no one left to save. so i don't foresee them taking issue with this. i think they just need to let the family do what they need to do to start the healing process. >> jeff, i cannot imagine a more decisi

so, let's talk about it and joining me to do that again criminal defense attorney holly hughes and psychologist dr. jeff gardere, and, holly, first, to the court and other records that were obtained by cnn. they did not see any violent crimes in bullock's history. is there any way police could have held him longer to keep him from what he did? >> no, absolutely not. if they'd have held him longer they would have been looking at a lawsuit for violating his civil liberties. he was picked up because being a little bit out of control. >> public intoxication. >> they held him as long as they could and then they had to release him. you can't hold on to someone indefinitely because of a future crime, something they might do in the future. there's no way to predict that, martin. they did what they were legally bound to do under the law and if you think about it, if this had gone the other way, if they'd have held on to him, we'd be up in arms about that. oh, he was drunk and you held him for this many hours and how dare you do that. >> how about finding him a place to go. they released him on the stree

joining me now to discuss this, criminal defense attorney holly hughes and psychologist dr. lly, let's talk about this, public safety. the concern for public safety, which is what the judge is worried about. >> right. >> versus a dad's grief and ability to say good-bye to his daughter. >> well, let's first remember that dad is the reason that the daughter is dead in the first place. >> correct. >> and that has a huge weight in the judge's decision, because what the judge said, is i am worried that there might be vigilantes out there. and not just worried about the defendant's safety, which, of course, is an issue for her. she clearly said, i don't want anybody taking a shot at him, but it would be extremely dangerous for the law enforcement detail that would be responsible for transporting him, because he is in custody, martin. so he would have to have sheriffs or sheriff's deputies or someone from the jail or the local police department be with him, and she's afraid that law enforcement could be in that line of fire if someone decides to take it into their own hands. >> so i

. >> joining me to discuss, holly hughes and psychologist jeff gardeer.official document. she just said i don't want to be kept alive like that. even. if she had signed the paperwork, the law would still override that? >> it absolutely would override. you're talking about an advanced directive where ahead of time, somebody sits down and says if i'm ever in this situation, these are my wishes. . in texas it would not matter because the law says you cannot take away life-sustaining capables from the fetus and that's what complicates the situation. >> they are saying she's brain dead but texas is saying she's not. the words between brain dead and dead. >> it's semantics at this point and unfortunately this family is caught in the middle of >>> so many medical ethicists who say that the law would not hold up here, because the woman is considered dead, so how does the unborn child have an impact here? >> well, there is also an unethical rule that many states follow which is that parents cannot withhold life or limb saving treatment from a child, and in this ca

. >> reporter: former prosecutor holly hughes said plead or we'll charge your spouse is a chess gamewith high profile defendants because the conviction the government wants is from the guy who held high office. >> you want to go after the politician. because the politician is elected by the people. that is a position of public trust. and so if the public can't trust him to do the right thing in his business dealings, then how are they going to trust him to look out for their best interests? >> reporter: both mcdonalds pleaded not guilty and were allowed to remain free pending trial. the former governor has repeatedly asserted that he did not break the law. and the 14-count indictment suggests serious wrongdoing on the part of maureen mcdonald. in 43 pages, her name appears roughly 125 times. in an e-mail asking for help because the family was broke. asking for dresses for her daughter's wedding. the indictment says tens of thousands of dollars in checks were made payable to maureen mcdonnell. she is even accused of obstruction of justice for promoting a lie about returning designer g

. >> reporter: former prosecutor holly hughes said plead or we'll charge your spouse is a chess gameplayed with high profile defendants because the conviction the government wants is from the guy who held high office. >> you want to go after the politician because the politician is elected by the people. that is a position of public trust. and so if the public can't trust him to do the right thing in his business dealings, then how are they going to trust him to look out for their best interests? >> reporter: both mcdonnells pleaded guilty and were allowed to remain free pending trial. the former governor has repeatedly asserted that he did not break the law and the 14-count indictment suggests serious wrongdoing on the part of maureen mcdonnell. in 43 pages her name appears roughly 2500 times. an e-mail asking for help because the family was broke, asking for dresses for her daughter's wedding. tens of thousands of dollars in checks were made payable to maureen mcdonnell. she's accused of obstruction of justice for promoting a lie to this man, former ceo of a dietary summitment comp