this was hosted by the hoover institution. >> larry diamond, , senior fellw at the hoover institution with over research fellow glynn, i lead the hoover institution project on globals china's sharp power. we join with us in on u.s.-china relations at asia society, are cosponsored today, and warmly welcoming you to this event with assistant secretary of state for east asia and pacific affairs david stilwell who is joining us from tokyo today and will address the theme of today's session, covert, coercive and corrupt, countering chinese communist party malign influence in free societies. following his address he will engage in a conversation with two leading china scholars, orville schell and oriana mastro. the first is by my pleasure to welcome for opening remarks the director of the hoover institution and the 66 secretary of state of the united states, condeleezz rice. >> i am deliged to open this session of our project at hoover on chinese sharp power. and i especially want to welcome assistant secretary of state for east asian affairs, david stilwell. this project i think i one of t

the president of the copenhagen consensus center of visiting fellow at the hoover institution, stanford university, and skeptical environmentalist. it's really great to have you with us today. bjorn, how do you like my last part of your presentation? skeptical environmentalist. well, that's what i have to say. it's great to be here, sir. so look, what i really try to do is to think about all the things you can worry about, environmental areas, what are the things where you can actually make the most difference for every dollar or groupie that you spend. so that we do that instead of just feeling good at achieving almost nothing. i want to go through this in detail while we're chatting. so this international movement to do something about climate change is currently battling the resistance of climate change deniers. conservative politicians are in this clash, a lot of law, but information is being spread and a little fear mongering is being done on the anti climate side as well. and we're being scared into thinking our economies will collapse, scared into thinking that we are being scamm

political science and letitia ballasts at staffordshire university and senior fellow at the hoover institution professor radians great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to us. now i know you've been predicting him perhaps personally a wishing for a joe biden when and perhaps it's a bit too early still to encored the champagne but have you at least put the bottle into the fridge. it looks pretty good for. this year's many paths to 270 electoral votes and the president really only has one yes whenever they get slapped and that seems a bit unlikely given that he's behind in arizona. and. no bother to be counted are currently. biggest in reno which are big democratic areas and then your brain has gotten quite close and most of the votes out in pennsylvania are senate absentee which are generally. 7520. georgia's not down 216000 votes with many votes in fulton county. area to be found. so it looks pretty good for the democrats and their republican cement bit upset the trump campaign is calling for some recounts and i know many democrats whined quite offended by. these calls

the president of the copenhagen consensus, an urban setting fellow at the hoover institution at stanforduniversity and skeptical environmentalist. it's really great to have you with us today. bjorn, how do you like my last part of your presentation? skeptical environmentalist. right. it's what i have to say. it's great to be here senator. so i really try to do is to think about all the things you can worry about in a gentlemanly areas. what are the things where you can actually make the most difference for every dollar and rupee rupee that you spend so that we instead of just feeling good and achieving, i mean, i want to go through this in detail while we're chatting. so this international movement to do something about climate change.

of political science and literature ballasts at stafford university and senior fellow at the hoover institution president is great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to us if you're. now i know you've been predicting or perhaps personally a wishing for a joe biden when and perhaps it's a bit here early still cereal on according to champagne but have you at least put the bottle into the fridge. i think it looks pretty good for surviving. this is the as many paths to 270 electoral votes and the president really only has one yes whenever they get slapped and that seems a bit unlikely given that he's behind in arizona and nevada and the votes left there no bother to be counted are frankly from. our status in reno which are big democratic areas and then survey has gotten quite close and most of the votes out in pennsylvania are senate absentee which are generally done about $7520.00 and better and by georgia's not down to $16000.00 votes with many votes in fulton county and the atlanta area to be counted. so it looks pretty good for the democrats and their republican cement b

the president of the copenhagen consensus on earth visiting fellow at the hoover institution, stanford university, and skeptical environmentalist. it's really great to have you with us today. bjorn, how do you like my last part of your presentation? skeptical environmentalist. and i know you say it's great to be here sort of so what i really try to do is to think about what.

>>the hoover institution catherine yes did they ever is it is right and posters apparently they didn't learn a lot after the 2016 election masks when they. >>confidently predicted hillary clinton as the winner. i asked an expert of political polling has any credibility at this point. >>political polling is not dead, but it needs to be revisited and revised and to a changing electorate. 2020 is not the first time of the polls have been off the polls were often 2016. the polls are even off in 2012 when both parties were underrepresented it's time for the industry to sit down figure out what it's getting another lot of series as to what's wrong here with polling. the easiest thing to say is that the problem is this fellow this phone. historically posters have called people on landlines caught them in the evening's dinner time and to impose that way but people are ditching their landlines and they're going mobile so they have to figure how to track down people in mobile phones which is complicated but the tricky factor here is donald j trump and the question is why the trump voters get und

joining me now is a fellow at the hoover institution and former advisor to the presidential campaignof mitt romney and marco rubio. and from los angeles is a professor of the loyasclaw ol and host of the passing judgment podcast. thank you for joining us. let's start with the legal challenges president trump hamo ted in various states. do you see any of them having the strength to prevail? >> i don't at thispoint. what you need in a legal challenge you have to find a provision of the law that has been violated anen you have to find evidence to support that assertion. at this point, i'm not sure i see y that in of the cases and that's why frankly, president trump's legal team is having a bad batting average where a number of cases have been dismissed or they've nt failed to ue with those cases. the real question i think a lot of people have is, is there a case in a state that's outcome determinative where the case itself, could deteine the outcome of that stay. at this point i think the answer is no. of the hypothetical would be, of course, everythicomes out for pennsylvania and then

he's a stanford hoover institution fellow and has served on an advisor to the national republican senatorial committee. we'll talk about what happens next. >> if you were advising president trump, we know that joe biden is going to address the nation tonight. if you're advising the president on how to handle the next 24 to 48 hours, what would you say? >> well, if i were advising him, i would stay the results are pretty clear with where we're headed in this election is pretty clear. joe biden will be elected the next president of the united states and, you know, it's difficult. it's not clear to me that he really would take the advice of even those around him who are urging him to restrain himself from wanting to do what he wants to do, which is to be more expressive about ways in which he believes he's been wronged. but the peaceful transition of power is core to our democracy. that is very important. and i'd urge him to respect the results of the voters and we'll see. >> all right. well, what would you say to republican lawmakers right now? do you think they have the obligation to echo the

and chances are if you see a strange number you ignore it talk to a research fellow at the hoover institution or says that's just part of the problem. >>keep in mind. it's not a poster calling so much if somebody called calling you like they're also trying to sell you on that i'm sure in orlando. so maybe don't want to have that conversation the other fixes this is journalism itself. every 4 years we lament that the political races are going see too much as horse races. we just look at numbers mean look at betting odds if you will. and national news outlets don't spend a lot of time on the ground talking to voters, you know going through pennsylvania and seeing enthusiasm is candidates are mobilizing all its time we look at the use that as our north star. you might be time for national organizations to actually get back on the ground they can give the organizations of passing this election because why covid hard to put people out in the field and actually do reporting. but i think in 2024 that would be best for the national media tips to emphasize the poll numbers and just actually spend time

atlas is a fellow at staffers hoover institution and has no background in epidemiology or infectious disease. >>> a new study out of stanford suggests that rallies held by president trump could be linked to hundreds of coronavirus death. the stanford institute for economic policy research found that the president's crowded events in recent months, with little to no social distancing, account for 30,000 additional cases of the coronavirus. and it may have led to 700 deaths. the study focused on a time when the president held 18 rallies between june 20 and september 22. >>> coming up here, what we are learning about a deadly shooting overnight in the south bay neighborhood. >>> and details on the major announcement about san francisco's 2021 chinese new year parade. >>> i am tracking the forecast as we head into your bay area monday. what you can expect after the break. who's supporting prop 15? joe biden. biden says, "every kid deserves a quality education and every family deserves to live in a safe, healthy community. that's why i support prop. 15." vote yes. schools and communities

scientists at the found hoover institute in erlang and are using artificial intelligence to develop and improve such software. but do happy, sad, surprised, or angry faces look the same in all cultures. various aspects of the face correspond to emotions, movements of facial muscles, happy, sad, angry and so on. their own, the start of most cultures. what we humans see in facial expressions, we can teach software to see as well for the very, very high degree of accuracy. and is using photos of very clear facial expressions to help train the software. but what is the point of having it identify emotions at present? i didn't read all time and the typical application for emotion recognition would be in the context of human machine interaction, where we have one interesting project teaching a robot to help autistic children learn to interpret social signals and facial expressions. in another areas, cars recognizing the state drivers are in whether they're distracted or feeling stressed or overwhelmed. that's all sounds pretty homeless. these technologies could however, also be used to monito

professor of political science and literature values at stanford university at senior fellow at the hoover institution brady just before the break ever asking your questions about racism and how it's been instrumental lies and politics and then the reason why i focus on that so much is because i think that it's become a convenient way for some american politicians especially you know where globalist leaning to avoid an important conversation about the economy and be the purpose of the state because in most countries around the world putting your country 1st is not a controversial proposition that's in fact considered to be demain purpose to all of the government do you think trump would have ever reasoned just such prominence if a prawn national and to globalist sentiments were given fair in presentation in denmark in politics during the previous election cycles. that's it's way beyond my pay grade i don't there's no evidence other than anecdotal evidence that you might cite here and there i know of no studies. that when either corroborate or disprove it if a child leaves the white house come 2821 do

political science and letitia ballasts at staffordshire university and senior fellow at the hoover institution professor radians great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to us. now i know you've been predicting and perhaps personally a wishing for a job by then when and perhaps it's a bit too early still to encore the champagne but have you at least put the bottle into the fridge. it looks pretty good for. as many to. 70 electoral votes and the president really only has one you know whenever they get slapped and that seems a bit unlikely given that he's behind in arizona. and. no bother to be counted are currently. biggest in reno which are big democratic areas. as your brain has gotten quite close and most of the votes out. are senator.

professor of political science and letisha values at staff university and senior fellow at the hoover institution professor radians great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to us. now i know you've been predicting and perhaps personally a wishing for a joe biden when perhaps it's a bit too early still to encored the champagne but have you at least put the bottle .

political science and literature ballast at stafford's university and senior fellow at the hoover institution professor radians great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to ya. now i know you've been predicting him perhaps personally a wishing for a joe biden win and perhaps it's been here early still cereal on according to some pain but have you at least put the bottle into the fridge. i think it looks pretty good for mr biden. is he as many paths to 270 electoral votes and the president really only has one yes whenever they get slapped and that seems a bit unlikely given that he's behind in arizona and nevada and the votes left there no bother to be counted are frankly from.

rice is director of the hoover institution where dr. atlas is a senior fellow. rice, part of an online meeting of the university's faculty senate, where 85% of members condemned his actions as covid adviser to the president. they cited his discouraging of mask use, disdain of medical knowledge, and damage to stanford's reputation. >>> with thanksgiving less than a week away, there's not a lack of food. there's a lack of money for people to buy that food. this is a nationwide problem. here at home, sacred heart community service in san jose is working to feed people. now, because of covid restrictions, distribution now will stretch over four days with two drive-through and two walk-through days. sacred heart is preparing 4,300 boxed meals with about $100 worth of food inside those boxes. the charity is seeing a lot more people and new cases, but the drive to help is unchanged. >> in years past, on a typical day we would have maybe 300-plus volunteers here, hundreds upon hundreds of community members, and it creates sort of a vibe and an energy that is hard to rec

political science and literature values that staffer at the university and senior fellow at the hoover institution professor radians great to talk to you thank you very much for taking time to talk to us your . now i know you've been predicting him perhaps personally a wishing for a joe biden win and perhaps it's a bit here early still to encore the champagne but have you at least put the bottle into the fridge. think it looks pretty good for surviving. is the as many paths to 270 electoral votes and the president really only has one yes whenever they get slapped and that seems a bit unlikely given that he's behind in arizona and nevada and the votes left in no bother to be counted are currently from. our status in reno which are big democratic areas and then survey has gotten quite close and most of the votes out in pennsylvania are senate absentee which are generally. 7520 in very remote georgia has not down to 16000 votes with many votes in fulton county and the atlanta area to be counted so it looks pretty good for the democrats and their republican cement bit upset the trump campaign is calli

rice is director of the hoover institution. where atlas is a seen your fellow.e part of the online meeting of the university faculty senate where 85% of members condemned his actions as covid adviser to the president. citing his discouragement of mask use, disdain of medical knowledge and damage they say to stanford's reputation. >> the covid out break in golden gate field. 200 workers have tested positive. we first brought you the story last night. 100 employees at that time tested positive. tonight the track says the number doubled. everyone who tested positive is now self-isolating. according to track officials. the track is closed for the rest of the month. officials are working with the health department to manage this out break. >> event hall in oakland is in legal trouble. after of the city says the onner repeated repeatedly repeatedly ignored public health orders by hosting indoor parties. the city filed a restraining order against the man who runs the space. >> it's antihuman. it's satanic actually. >> the pandemic everyone is talking about. himist hall

joining me now is victor davis hanson, hoover a hoover institution senior fellow.oes any of what you just heard surprise you? >> a little bit, because when rahm emanuel tried to call years ago, he said "never let a serious crisis go to waste," he was an embarrassment and was saying there was no public support for these crazy ideas, clash for clunkers, socialized medicine, they had to push it on people under the guise of a crisis. everyone thought, that's deplorable to say that. everyone from justin trudeau in canada to gavin newsom in california, hillary clinton, michael bloomberg, they are proud of it. take this crisis and pushed on your throat something that has no popular support. it had no popular support in the election -- that is why joe biden stayed in the basement. he did not camp eight on these issues. that is why kamala harris crashed in the primaries, that's why mike bloomberg spent a billion dollars and got zero delegates, couldn't affect the vote in florida or ohio and spent over hundred million dollars. what was that agenda? what were people saying, l

at the hoover institute in joins us tonight, thank you so much for coming on.hat he think is happening? the first tuesday in november into an abstraction, it's a contrast. even the word absentee ballot doesn't mean anything and what did they replace it with? this new concept of early voting and mail in balloting. we never heard those words before and what they mean is 30 or 45 days before the election, you can keep voting casually come and go in and vote, maybe not any day, ballots can come in after the polls if they are too oppressive, you can sue and overturn the constitutional ends at the voting law. that's when they showed the metal of the candidates and what does it matter if donald trump had a really good second debate. what does it matter if we heard about hunter biden when millions of people had already voted and what did they vote on, would be the perception. they were massaged by polls. their knowledge became wisconsin 17 down and 12 down on the national polls and trump's favorability as a team down so it really wouldn't be wise to give money or to vo

mcmaster, board director of the atlantic council and senior fellow at stanford's hoover institution, and the 26th assistant for the president for national security affairs. general mcmaster joins us for a discussion of u.s. grant strategy with a particular emphasis on u.s. foreign-policy regarding china and the middle east. there are a few who bring a more , as agic mindset historian, as a retired officer with 34 years of experience in the u.s. army, and is one of our nation's senior policymakers. , generalw book mcmaster lays out what he sees as a new vision for a better u.s. national firm policy. he advises the use of strategic empathy to better know and understand our adversaries and using that perspective to rather thanrategies episodic or short-term engagements to solve long-term problems. general mcmaster has cited one of the great examples of strategic thinking and character and our foreign-policy leaders as an inspiration and model for his tenure at the national security council. as many of you who listening today know that general was one of the architects, one of the great

joining me now, victor davis hanson, hoover institution senior fellow, and mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the federalist" and fox news contributor. victor, you can feel, it's electric, the excitement in europe and china over a biden. does that not tell you all you need to know about what will happen to the average american worker under these new agreements and understandings? >> it does, but i think biden is going to do what he did with covid, it's now the biden vaccination, the biden recovery and the trump lockdown. in other words, he's going to talk a great game but because basically trump had it right on covid for all the demagoguery, biden is not going to do anything different. he can talk about the w.h.o. and paris climate and they have implications, but let's see if he wants to put that embassy back in tel aviv. let's see if he wants to get 700 million to put the palestinians back in the center of those negotiations. let's see if he wants -- let's see if he says to his own party, we are going to drop all the tariffs with china and have a new reset, worked pretty well, he thinks

joining us now is victor davis hanson a senior fellow at the hoover institution at stanford universitynal review orntributor and a selling author, extraordinary historian and a great american. victor the kind of nonsense is being by the left in this country is sickening and if there is any de-programming to be done it resides with the zombies who now and have in our institutions in my opinion the so-called higher learning. they are more adjusted in indoctrination than an education. your thoughts. >> i think everybody realizes the majority of the population does not lie into the progressive -- social agenda that's promulgated by big tech academia wall street professional entertainment sports k-12 and they exercised enormous influence and get very angry when people don't listen to them. that's where we are now. on the election lou very quickly everybody reads something went terribly wrong. early voting, mail-in voting didn't work. half the country feels something went wrong and went against donald trump. now what they are waiting for is the affidavits come the glitches and the inconsiste

at the hoover institute in joins us tonight, thank you so much for coming on.hat do you think is happening? >> a convergence of big data, big tech, big poster, big-money, administrative state. they rendered the most hallowed day in american tradition, the first tuesday in november into an abstraction.ra even the word absentee ballot doesn't mean anything if it ceases to exist. what do they place it trickle replace it with? early voting in mailin and balloting. we've never heard those words before. you go in casually you vote. ballots can come in one, two, three, four days after the pol polls. you can seward overturn the constitutionalst right. he used to be the last two or three weeks with a heated time of the campaign. what does it matter if donald trump had a really good second debate. what did it matter if we heard about hunter biden when people had already voted. what did they vote on? what was the perception? as you said, they were massaged by polls. edeir knowledge came, well, wisconsin is 17 down and 12 down on the national poll. o tom's is 18 down so it

joining us is hoover institution senior fellow victor davis hanson.onald trump is the present and future leader of the gop until someone else with more charisma, more energy and more of the following comes along. why do party leaders seem to be missing that? >> i don't know but they wouldn't be where they are now with gains in the house and keeping the senate if it wasn't for donald trump and donald trump redefined race in this country, he's redefined it as clouds. he is saying to america if you are a black truck driver or mexican-american farmer you have more in common than the truck driver doesn't oprah winfrey or ron james, that's a dynamic concept, and starting to pay dividends his people see that race is incidental to who we are, that is why they hate him so much and all these republican people are going to come back -- there is no ashes of the republican party, it did very well, trump was not an anchor, he was avoided to all the down ballot candidates. the idea they will come back in and reconstruct it like a phoenix is not going to happen. no o

it's scott atlas you're talking about, part of the hoover institution, marcus.was definitely one of the people who was saying rise up in michigan against the governor. that governor is limiting social gatherings and limiting restrictions as the coronavirus is out of control there. president trump has spoken out against michigan's governor, gretchen whitmer, and a group of far-right militia members were caught planning to kidnap her. as for stanford he has said of scott atlas we believe in the importance of strictly following the guideline of local and state health authorities. dr. atlas has expressed views that are inconsistent with the university's approach in response to the pandemic. lawsuits filed by voters designed to help president trump in the ballot counting process have been dropped by the litigants with no explanation. as we reported yesterday trump's campaign backed off some of the accusations it was making in a pennsylvania lawsuit and amounted that lawsuit. president trump says there has been no change, no amendment, but you can read the amended law

joining us now is victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution at stanford universityal review" contributor, best selling author, extraordinary historian and great american. victor, the kind of nonsense that's being spewed by i the left in this country is sickening. and if there is any deprogramming to be done, it resides with the zombies who now inhabit our institutions, in my opinion, of so-called higher learning that are more into indoctrination than they are into education. your thoughts. >> yeah, i think so. i think everybody realizes that a majority of the population does not buy in to the progress-socialist agenda, and it's promulgated by big tech, academia, wall street, professional entertainment, sports, k-12, etc., and they have, they exercise enormous influence, and they get very angry when people don't listen to them. and that's where we are now. but on the election, you know, lou, just very quickly, i think the everybody agrees that something went terribly wrong. early voting, mail-in voting, unproven systems didn't work. about half the country feels that

victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institute, and jeff weaver bernie sanders 2016 campaignhor? because i haven't gotten your book. >> i'm author of the book ho "hw bare a new" >> bret: let's start with that, would you thint and what we will see in delawa delaware? >> the trends continue, joe biden will lock up the presidential race. to pass to do it, pennsylvania and went through the combination of nevada and arizona. we hoard corey lewandowsk heard, if you have a court order not being obeyed you go back and do judges b it cranky when they dot do what they tell them to do. i would be back in court talking to the judge and showing the cause orders in the subpoenas, but other things to do with the impropriety he's talking about. let's be clear, republicans, democrats, by and large people understand the kind of fraud that the trump people are alleging is just not going on. >> martha: sean spicer, what you say to that? >> i think corey to the right thing. he came out and presented the evidence they had. it's one thing that they're going to court, getting the orders, presenting

he is a senior fellow at the hoover institution.ll, let me start with you and ask you, what do you think is the message in biden being elected, trump being denied a second term, but the senate apparently staying republican, the democrats not doing so well in the house? make sense of that. >> well, i am going to disagree with your monologue, fareed, which is very presumptuous of me. what you said, you began by saying the country was deeply divided and then you went on to show that actually when you look at voting, it cut across racial divisions quite clearly. and i would argue this election has been the victory of the center running against a great deal of media commentary, some of yours, that foresaw a constitutional crisis, if not an outright civil war. this election wasn't the 1860 election that led to civil war after lincoln's victory. it wasn't 1876 when a bunch of states sent rival electors to washington and the whole thing ended up being stitched up in a rather seamy deal. in fact for me the most surprising is you had the high

victor davis hanson a senior fellow at the hoover institute we are always happy to have them on.slot for coming. so you can shoot heroin, but you can't have thanksgiving dinner. what are we looking at? >> well, i think is a lot of takeaways. i think after nine months of lockdowns of various sorts that are state authority, especially blue states, really don't have any answers. they can't tell us about thisbl mysterious virus, the degree of susceptibility of certain people with blood types or vitamin dhe levels or the methods of the most severe transmission. and so -- and that knowledge they go back to what they've always done.kdth a series of lockdowns. they said look at europe, they did it, well europe has got l expensive rates just like we do and we are not doing any differently -- much different than spain, italy, belgium, the u.k., so that lack of knowledge they have to do something because there were people who do something and they never tell us this is the lethality rate, this is the cost-benefit analysis if we shut down in terms of substance abuse, familial abuse missed sc

rice is director of the hoover institution where dr. atlas is a senior fellow. of an online meeting at the university's faculty senate where 85 members condemned the actions as covid adviser to the president. they cited his discouraging of mask use, disdain of medical knowledge and damage to stanford's reputation. >>> shifting gears now, another bombshell for the embattled santa clara's sheriff's department. the grand jury has indicted the undersheriff into claims that someone was trading concealed carry gun permits for political donations to the sheriff. we first broke the news on twitter. undersheriff's rick sung's lawyer said he's facing criminal charges. three people have already pleaded guilty and are cooperating with investigators in the donations for guns permit case. a sheriff's captain and a prominent attorney have been indicted. sung the department's second highest ranking officer has now been put on administrative leave. in a statement, the sheriff condemned it and said her department is committed to maintaining the highest level of public trust and t

joining me now, senior hoover institution fellow.d trump is the president and future leader of the g.o.p. until someone else with more charisma, energy, more of the following comes along. why do so many of the party leaders seem to be missing that? >> i don't know, but they would not be where they are right now with gains in the house and keeping the senate if it were not for donald trump. and he redefined race in the country. he has redefined it as class, so he saying it to america that if you're a black truck driver or if you're a mexican-american plumber, or if you're a white mechanic, if you have more in common than the truck driver does with oprah winfrey or james, that's a dynamic concept and it's just starting to pay dividends since people see that race is really instrumental to who we are. it's not essential, and trump of all people can't america die. that's why they hated so much the idea that all these people -- there's no ashes of the republican party that did really well. he was an anchor to all the down ballot candidates

for people who don't agree with his decision including stanford university worries part of the hoover instituteut here's what he said about the other part of these lockdowns that we have to consider. >> one in four american college students, one in four age 18 to 24 thought of killing themselves in june because of the lockdown. i have children that age myself. we know what they are suffering from, isolation, this isolation is one of the unspoken tragedies of the elderly. shannon: where do we go from here? we hear about people suffering because they are not getting medical care. there is a mental health issue. people are not getting treatment for addiction are being able to go to their support meetings which how do you balance all those things? >> it is a difficult balance. we saw 160,000 new infections across the country and it is a delicate balancing act because as a mental health to we are all experiencing, many of is not going home for thanksgiving, we don't want to infect our older relatives and it is a really difficult balance we have to wait in the next several weeks but i'm encouraged to

power panel now, jessica tarlov, lanhee chen, fellow at the hoover institute and former senior officialalth and human services under president george w. bush. i need to start with you, lanhee chen, you've got the medical experience here. what spreads faster, covid-19 or hypocrisy? >> in california, it looks like it's hypocrisy these days. if you loo look at what governor newsom dated, there's hypocrisy on many levels. attending a dinner for a lobbyist friend with people outside of his family while at the same time he was calling on californians to make sacrifices, you have tens of millions of california kids including my own who are stuck in online learning. the hypocrisy is rampant, governor newsom is a prime example of that and there's a reason why californians are upset and angry at somebody who claims to lead, who claims to want what's best for californians but himself does what clearly is not in the public interest and does the things he calls on californians not to do. >> harris: will, i have to do my own cleanup on aisle 7, the picture we showed you was from nancy pelosi's planne

. >> stanford university where he is a fellow, at the hoover institution. tweeting that it's inconsistent with the response to the pandemic and it reflects his personal views. and joe biden calling out dr. atlas for playing politics while people are dying. the idea that the president is now existing, remaining adviser on covid is saying that the, they should resist. what the hell is the matter with these guys? what is the matter with them? resist? we are talking about 350-400,000 people dying? i mean, what are they doing? >> it's totally irresponsible. >> what is the matter with these guys? >> the reality is, joe biden is the president elect. the reality is, donald trump's presidency will end in 65 days. over. and until then, he is just wasting time that we don't have. he is wasting america's time, while americans are dying. >> and americans who believe this president's lies about the virus who believe the virus is not real. are dying just like everyone else. because the virus doesn't care about your politics. while the president only cares about politics.