, new affordable housing, replacement of public housing and new market rate housing in the ear timelines for the developments are rather along the size of the development are huge compared to hunter view and altercating but that speaks to the other part of our workshop public housing within the next 18 months we will the mayor's office of housing will help fund along with the housing authority over 35 hundred units forrehabilitation and by the end of that period we will have unit that will be having at least a useful life of another 20 years and manage and fund in are a way that the federal government did not provide for the housing authority and so in that effort clearly the office has made substantial process in terms of developing the financial plans and in terms of the implementations the other work with or that the office has done in terms of the policy and program prelims it's been you know creating new programs to try to address the housing needs as some of the earlier speakers spoke about not only are we do we need to address our housing needs at the low level but also are there

housing from scratch and public housing needs to be restored and requires housing that is rented but they require to remain affordable. we haven't done language in the mayors proposal about housing coopsquz trust and how how hozing trust can may plai role in making housing affordable in san francisco and don't think we straessed the needs that exist around san francisco when we see such disproportional development going on. if you look around market street there are high rise buildings and going up and different parts of the nairbld on the eastern side but in district 11 and richmond district we don't see housing going up. we haven't seen the effect development can have on the commercial corridors to promote transit and pro mote diversity and economicic tavety. these are things we can apply by using bond and think how to build the corridors for the 21est century. if you have been to district 11 you look on mission street and the corridor hasn't dwepd much in the last 70 yearsism zee housing that is 2 or 1 stories on a transit corridor that is the busiest in the neighborhoods, well be

that's not the end of the story of this house, the peterson house. once all the government officials had left, once the president's body was gone once stanton left, the house was open. no one was here. it was no longer under guard. anyone could come into this house and anyone who lived in this house could do whatever they wanted in this room. william peterson was furious that muddy boot tracks had sailed his carpet. when he came into this room and he saw bloody pillows, bloody sheets, bloody towels, bloody handkerchiefs, he got so angry he opened one of these windows and threw a lot of that material out the window into the yard behind. two bodiers whoy ers boarders who lived in the house, two brothers. one was a cameraman photographer, one was a painter. they decided to bring up a bulky camera and photograph the deathbed. it still had many bloody sheets on it, bloody pillows, a coverlet was on the bed. they pushed the bed back into the corner to get a better photograph of the room. so they set up the camera at the end of the room and pointed the lens

the housing element of the general plan suggested 50 percent of the housing should be affordable. the rejinal housing needs assessment said it should be at 60 percent and the housing balance initiative think it should be 33 percent and above. the cities existing sources such as housing trust fund which we pass adsfu year uzago incrugzary fees and redevelopment tax increment, san francisco may be able to build clous to 5 hchb new net affordable hose over the next 5 years, but it is short of the level needed to address the imbalance of new housing production and the current pipeline of approved development it is at 16 percent affordable low and moderate income compared to 84 percent market rate and luxury housing the city is building. i thipg the imbalance is highlighted friday when many community coalitions from had mission and allies. through the halloffs city hall so i think the antedisplacement coalition and organization for bringing that voice and that crisis to city hall. i also think that the cities imbalance of housing right now is especiallyly acrut and growing and the neig

trend seniors will have unique housing needs and the types of housing location and the affordability and at the heart of our equality we're seeing that some populations some contingency with leaving the city and we're losing gifted and equality study by 2014 if we do nothing to address san francisco will be the largest region with the lowest income a shift from 480 and the staircase craft to the nation for a greater diversity in our population race and niblt is a critical part of my equality and complicated component of the housing policy which, generally includes the tools this city should take this seriously so again longs range planning who we are and who we want to be those 3 metrics are important we anxiously await public comment and quickly on the housing stock nothing new we've tried to provide a consensus off our housing stock and the control as gil said we're here to answer any questions by the housing stock that could render rent control some might be affordable but certainly this is an important tool for helping us maintain our diversities we 0 don't have a lot of informat

house and that is the house thating is built by the private developers. and we also could have a preference for our down payment assistance programs. the certificate applicants do need to meet the certain criteria and that is what the landlord initiated the eviction on or after january first of 2012 and the applicants need to have lived in the unit for a minimum of ten years. and the second category, of programs that i want to highlight are our community development grants. and we fund eviction prevention and we fund the grants and we also provide the access housing to support and by the way of prevention, we provide short term rental assistance, and we provide legal representation and know your rights, sum seminars as well as weigh sift in move in costs for the emergency shelters to the affordable housing. and by way of access to houptsing, i want to highlight the importance of this program and that is that we provide the grants to cbos and they, help to shepherd the housing in secure families, through the city process for housing. and i think that it is

swain: one did the white house get the name the white house? mr.eale: we don't know for sure but there is a letter where it is referred to in 1803 and i suppose because it was whitewashed. it was never intended to be. it was because the stone is so bad, the rain would get in it and freeze and crack the stone so they did a heavy whitewash with a flat base and painted the house stark white. it was really more of a paste. it would protect the house and the house was whitewashed a few times but it was after the war of 1812 that there was any record of it being painted. black marks from the fire could be seen through the whitewash. it was a huge deal. i imagine that is why it got the name. ms. swain: i often see it referred to with theodore roosevelt becoming current. mr. seale: officially on the roosevelt immediately upon taking office dropped the old term executive mansion and said it here after it should be called the white house. the executive mansion didn't mean anything to him anymore. he spanish war took the presidency back to a level of power it

the white house. i think i crossed the united states 12 times by tr ain in those years. during her early training in girl scouts, and the out-of-doors, she had distanced reaching call. it is started way down the platform. my brother hated it, it embarrassed him. [laughter] my grandmother was born in iowa, just like my grandfather, in the same year, 1874. the older of two girls, charles and florence mchenry. she was about 11, florence is help was such that she had asthma but they moved to california. after a little bit they went to monterrey and made their home in monterrey. it was lucky for my great-grandfather that he had a tomboy for an older daughter, because they would take off into the crs or the coast range or wherever exploring, she was a tomboy. there is a lovely picture of her sitting astride a mule which was 17. -- when she was 17. she had a rifle like this. she had a very puckish sense of humor, and she was quite the outlet ♪ athlete. california meant a great deal to her. she went to san jo

it is the best affordable housing we have i think uncommon keflt said the affordable housing that has been built we need to protect that affordable housing this is what that is about i'll ask airbnb i don't agree with the chronicle but they acknowledged the heirs market is being impacted by the airbnb but the chronicle remedies the average is correct instead of trashing us they have recognize this system right now is broken and what we're facing in neighborhoods like the mission is incredible they need to take responsibility for the fatigue that their business model hases batted this housing crisis we have a legislation from supervisor kim i want to note a couple of key points what we're mroep first a key component is prohibiting the airbnb platforms not on the short term register and feinstein them if they list the units unregistered the fact that implementation is not going to happen unless we hold airbnb accountable and right now no affordability a on the only a couple hundred of units are registered and thousand of units are being listed on airbnb platform alone they know their li

house by house inspectors worked carefully painstakinglily, giving reports back to the housing bureau>> falling ceiling, rat infested basement. >> overcrowding. >> falling ceiling. >> the u.s. public health survey was completed. we know now what has to be done, mrs. turner. that's where you come in. people like you and respect you. women you take the job of volunteer neighborhood chairman? mrs. turner looked across the backyards and said i'll be happy to. so my work began. as i found out, it was a day and night job. there were committee meetings, home visits conferences. most met at pilot house, a church group converted the worst slum house in the neighborhood. served as example of rehabilitation and social service referral center. with the help of pilot house and the housing bureau, my two chief assistants found block captains men and women willing to work and work hard in their own blocks. we planned our part in a city wide interest effort to interest and involve all the people in the pilot program. city officials schools, newspapers, social agencies individuals, everyone planned fo

lists we've seen a number of families facing a housing crisis steady increase and right now this list is not at its highest there are way mower children and parents waiting for a shelter or home and we also know this number doesn't reflect the number of homeless families including the children like 3 thousand homeless which were in california back in the day the shelter waiting list was very long at compass we use means to structure our services try to meet the need but not enough we understand the town hall of homelessness on families particular on children homelessness is trauma it is like war or violence and the longer families are homeless it is greater the toll it takes on the family and more likely that family is going to not recover from homelessness and the thinking stability will be generational there's more money than ever in san francisco right now - >> thank you, ma'am. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i coordinate the tenants rights for the justice cause we see over one thousand cases every year we're part of the how's pious we're facing an unprecede

is to have a conversation wherever it is appropriate to figure out how this fits is the one larger housing strategy that the city has i think that given the gravity of the housing crisis those kinds of questions you know what do we do when the city owns land are questions we're going to have to raise more frequently it is something that would be a positive thing because we have to figure out how to leverage the limited resources we have for the purpose of building more affordable housing in that spirit in which this hearing was requested and with that, i don't know if anyone else wants to have any comments we have a presentation. >> thank you supervisor campos maybe you can facilitate this hearing from this point on. >> i know that it is in supervisor kim's district. >> just say a few things quickly i look forward to this presentation i know there are a number of competing interests last year and passed prop k that calls for 32 percent of affordable housing and velocities for low income and moderate households we have a surplus ordinance that surpluses any property to be transferred to the

the anderson house is gone today, the carriage houses the only thing left. -- house is the only thing left. this is undoubtedly where these connections begin. working to build a house here in washington, d.c.. it becomes little and brown together. this is a footnote, but i thought this was interesting. for what you can see afterwards, if you walk out this door right here, this is a house that brown and little restored up in south berwick, maine. this is just over the border of new hampshire. kate chopin, the great american writer lived in this house. brown and little restored this house. in some sense, they sort of overdo it. that is why i am putting this gable in. nothing like this would appear back in 1787. what is fascinating about this restoration is that -- this is a mural done by a man by the name of george. it is a mural of substantial architecture. just rock -- walk outside right here. not the same artist, but the same idea. i am trying to suggest there are different ideas sort of infiltrating here, certainly with the anderson's when you come to this house. so finally, we are

allows them to stay in their house we have hundred and thirty veterans 2, 3, 4 transitional housingrograms they need option when their housing ends this is a quick policy you have a meaningful dig identified housing options that need immediately programs at this time a subsidy is needed for the folks not open the street but for the subsidy and to maximize the subsidies and what the funds support and that's the good policies that's what this proposal represents thank you. >> thank you>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> and hi, i'm gloria thompson i was helped into getting an sro but it took me 3 long years of waiting in shelters and of having to go through you know the sheltered lines but now you need to put something in place to have more affordable housing because there's a lot of people waiting and i think this is a shame you know that people should have to wait anyone should have a water so long to get triple housing thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm eir can executive director of campus family services here to suppo

cases the operating costs of housing is lower than the lease housing and ♪ cases the hours is builto current standards in terms of of accessibility and other important issues of people with disabilities the people has a dual track in providing the housing for the disabled and seniors and others in terms of 0 both the master lease hotels and the permanent affordable in terms of our work and in terms of creating affordable housing what both the directors of h and dph have articulated is one of the basic things for the welfare of all the clients is having a home that's our primary mission and our department is to create affordable housing assumes we can and as quickly as possible and leveraging outdoor resources from all levels of government so that we can stretch the local affordable housing funds as much as possible and in that process we community with our partners at dph and s f s to think about the types of housing we types of supportive housing we create on behalf of the city trying to meet the needs of city overall and through this participating it is a very great partnership wi

and i think that the housing ladder is a critical part that is part of a healthy housing market and it is missing in the current condition and we are supportive because the rent crold units form the first rung of the housing ladder and we depend on the affordable at every level of housing in order to have the successful housing market. this is critical for both of our business and for the success of the city. >> we are supportive of the things like mall sites and acquisition program because they help to move the people up this housing ladder. >> we want to make sure that the program is attractive to the property owners and as you heard from the mayor's office and hayward, just recently, the application to this program have been limited and we think that there are a number of things that can be done to improve the program to make them more attractive for the property owners, and first the program is currently under funded and more funding should be to that and we are excited for the housing bond to do that, and second, the income cap is difficult to meet currently and should be expanded

house by house, the inspectors worked carefully.ing the reports back to the housing bureau. >> fire hazards, falling ceilings. overcrowding. outside costs. structural weaknesses. defective wiring. >> the u.s. public health service survey was completed. we know now what has to be done mrs. turner, that is where you come in. people like and respect you, will you take the job of volunteer neighborhood chairman? she looked across the backyard and said "i will be happy to." and so my work began. as i found out, it was a day and night job. there were meetings, visits, conferences. most of the committees met at a pilothouse, a church group that converted into a community center. it served as an example of rehabilitation and the social service referral center. with the help of pilothouse and the housing bureau, my two assistants found block captains, men and women who were willing to work in their own blocks. we met to plan our part of the citywide effort to interest and involve all the people in the pilot program. city officials, school ne

, new affordable housing, replacement of public housing and new market rate housing in the ear timelines for the developments are rather along the size of the development are huge compared to hunter view and altercating but that speaks to the other p

and looking at housing is a short term housing not hundred or 80 days in shelters not good for kids or families. >> so approximately did you say hundred. >> it is about i said about hundred and 50 it is about hundred and 48. >> looking at our numbers that will- if we were to let's see another $5 million for families housing that seems to be the number you'll need to take care of. >> so of the absolute numbers that sound like it is right the subsidies it is tied to market rate housing and what unfortunately, we've had to do is make that decision is it better to have a family homeless in san francisco or houses in other county waiting for a unit we can acquire without the rents medium rents

this is the biggest house. this isn't the finest house.any in europe, china, asia have paintings of great value, things we don't have here and will probably never have until we are 1000 years old or older. but this is the best house. brian: last day in the white house. what was the reaction of the staff when he left? kate: they were very heartbroken for him. some say it was harder than the jfk assassination. you could see him sink into depression. the schedule used to be like clockwork. one watergate kept dragging on -- when watergate cap dragging on, he would roll up later. there was a painter. he talked about how he was in his all-white uniform. it was so rushed he was still painting before the president came out. he was the louvre's at an staffer in the room at the time. he stood over to the side. totally worried he was going to stand out. when they see a camera, one usher told me he remembers being caught on camera and being mortified. i spent the time trying to find cletus in the audience but couldn't find him. how much do the butler'

stock or somewhat moderated by new housing being met that's our choose nothing or building new housing many of the people had been here and will want to buy or rent places in the mission district will have the choice of buying something every expert inch taujd to if you don't build new you're putting more pressure and causing displacement that's the way things work and splild is anyway you can believe or not building in it is a fact of life also i'm happy to learn the gentleman has chosen to go with the unit onsite originally he would have been able to contribute with twice as much in terms of the unit priority but what we learned in the last few days there's no guarantee that those dollars will actually be spent in the projects like 1950 mission or fulsome theirs being projects the dollars are not necessarily enough to guarantee this will go forward and i was fighting for 10 years all the same groups were representing different opinions we reached ideas on eastern neighborhood and set higher levels of rules and set projects to those routines and should be approved now, some people wan

but this is the best house. brian: last day in the white house.hat was the reaction of the staff when he left? kate: they were very heartbroken for him. some say it was harder than the jfk assassination. watching the sunday by day sink into depression. his body language was different. the head electrician said that the schedule used to be like clockwork. he used to be in the oval office at the same time. but when watergate cap dragging on, he would roll up later. there was a painter. he painted that podium. his name was cletus park. he just passed away a few months ago. he told me a great story about how he was called into paint the podium before president nixon spoke. he was in his all-white uniform. he was still painting before the president came out. he was the louvre's at an -- he was the only resident staffer in the room at the time. he stood over to the side. he had his paint bucket in his white uniform and he was totally worried he was going to stand out. when they see a camera, one usher told me he remembers being caught on camera and bein

there were no a card on the white house grounds. -- acorns on the white house grounds. he would bring a great big plastic bag of acorns that he had gathered at camp david and would put them on the patio outside the oval office. every day, he would watch and wait for the squirrels to come and take the acorns. on fridays, they would literally be knocking on the glass saying, don't forget us. we will be back on monday. [laughter] at the very end of the administration, there was a meeting held in the oval office. it was very close to the inaugural time. the school's came to the door and mr. bush suddenly realized for these years that the squirrels had been coming to the door. he said, my dog would make short shrift of those squirrels. my father was absolutely incensed. outside the door, there was a little brass plaque that said beware of dog. [laughter] there is a lot of residual affects the lawn from each of us to the other. and that is one of the things that mrs. reagan was criticized for and a lot of the work that was done in the white house. some of the things that nobo

existing housing is important housing and it needs to be protected like the code requires.otecting housing that is affordable has an effect on entirety market, which i think is the underlying reason for planning code section 317. i believe that by ignoring this very important criterion the board asc staff has made a major error. the huge difference between $5 million home and $2.3 million homes. one thing that distinguishes one from the other is size. square footage. your motion and your vote did not confront this and i'm asking for a rehearing so you can make a motion that at least deals?i%("?7 with this one way or the other. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we can hear from the permit holder. >> thank you good evening. i understand that the issue here is not about design and that's what the appellant's position is. i will not go into the design. if there's any question about the design of the building i'm glad to answer them. it's really just a rehashing of the same discussion about affordability that we had >> i realized that the firm -- i do need to make a disclosu

and looking at housing is a short term housing not hundred or 80 days in shelters not good for kids or families. >> so approximately did you say hundred. >> it is about i said about hundred and 50 it is about hundred and 48. >> looking at our numbers that will- if we were to let's see another $5 million for families housing that seems to be the number you'll need to take care of. >> so of the absolute numbers that sound like it is right the subsidies it is tied to market rate housing and what unfortunately, we've had to do is make that decision is it better to have a family homeless in san francisco or houses in other county waiting for a unit we can acquire without the rents medium rents $34,000 if a family can move to another county with better rent we're still providing those services and support that's what our nonprofits are forced to do. >> you probably said it the $2 million for the 6 of homeless families. >> it is actually we've housed 66 families with less than $2 million we have several million dollars we have allocated to how's house 2 more families. >> those families are

in the white house?. not to that degree. the sociables were informal, there was music, there was often dancing. once they get in to the white house, the entertainments are much more restricted, they're open to a lot of people especially the drawing rooms but they are not -- there is not that kind of dancing until actually end of their term as they're on their way out, the last great drawing room she holds, they actually have music and dancing and people stay until 2:00 in the morning and talk about how gracious the adams's are knowing that they are -- that they have failed in the reelection and it's probably one of the greatest entertainments that they have in the four years. swain: next is a question from leroy in monticello, kentucky. hi, leroy. leroy: yes, ma'am. i'm really enjoying this. this is great. swain: thank you. leroy: were the adams' family, john quincy and his wife where they god-fearing and devoted their attention in church and teach their children the thanks of the lord? i'm a minister, s

she ran the house, she did not keep the house.he made sure that butter was made efficiency -- efficiently. professor finkelman: slave mistresses don't make butter unless they choose to. it's important to see this for sarah polk and margaret taylor. professor finkelman: i want -- ms. swain: i want to tell folks that this is an interactive program. we will put the phone numbers on the screen. we will begin taking your questions throughout our program. dolly madison has been an element of our series from the very beginning. this is dolly's last her raw. what was her role with the polk white house? ms. hunt: sarah polk and dolly became very close. dolly men towards sarah. -- dolly mentored sarah. sarah treated her as the grande dame. they were the two war first ladies. there were many similarities between them. the sense of self, fashion, the understanding of the role of the first lady in conveying the indirect's that would support her husband's presidency. it is not easy to be a first lady during war. there were many detractors as th

housing controls and pay the impact fees that concludes my presentation. i'll be happy to answer any questions thank you. >> okay opening it up for public comment - project sponsor please good afternoon commissioner president fong and commissioners my name is joe i'm the project sponsor first, i'm a small local builder and local san franciscan i'll find my roots in our packet in-laws and everyone worked in the midst i'm active in charities in close proximity serving low income families their mission academy and holy day home in 2987 i built the senior disabled building in san francisco the building is located on mission street with the 5 percent of our receipts section 8 tenants from the san francisco housing authority they feel we've created a low income senior housing community that project at van ness is not datdz displaced any folks it was a vacant site we have conducted excessive neighborhood outreach and have the support of the neighbors we held a preapplication meager and had positive feedback my son and i canvassed the neighborhood we set up a tabl

the white house hosted a state dinner. here's a look at that. >> emily, tell us about this past tuesday's state dinner. emily: a very formal affair. it was a lovely spring evening. it was nice to have some good weather. sometimes these dinners can be marred if there is some bad weather. a smaller dinner than previous dinners have an. fewer than 200 people gathered at the white house. it was also a slightly less glittery affair we have seen that other state dinners. heavy i love government. -- a la government. a little lower on the glitter factor which was nice. i think they had a hangover from that on the white house correspondents dinner. >> who was this held for? emily: in honor of the prime minister of japan and his wife. and for the celebration of honoring the alliance between the u.s. and japan. we get so caught up in the downs -- gowns and place settings but really it is to celebrate the licenses -- the alliances between two nations to do a public and high-profile demonstration of the bond between two countries. >> w

house by house, the inspectors worked carefully, pain stakingly, feeding their reports back to the housing bureau. >> fire hazard rat infested basement overcrowded. >> the u.s. public health survey was completed. we know now what would have to be done. and that's where you come in. people like and respect you. when you take the job of volunteer neighborhood chairman mrs. turner looked out across the backyard and said i'll be happy to. and so our work began and as i found out, it was a day and night job. there were community meetings home visits conferences. most of our committees met at pilot house a church group converted a community center the worst slum house in the neighborhood. with the help of pilot house and the housing bureau two chief assistants found block captains. men and women willing to work hard in their own blocks. this was enough drama to involve even the most indifferent. it was a wholesale attack on one block. it was good to know that the city officials meant business. it was good to know too what could be done and soon throughout the 27 blocks, the walls came tumbling d

the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the house will be in order. members are advised to take their conversations off the floor. for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> i have a motion to recommit at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed to the bill? >> i am in its current form. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman qualifies. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: mr. aguilar of california moves to recommit the bill h.r. 1732 to the committee on transportation and infrastructure with instructions to report the same back to the house forthwith with the following amendment. mr.ing a -- mr. aguilar: i ask unanimous condition sent to dispense with the reading. >> i rise in opposition to the recommit. the speaker pro tempore: without objection the gentleman is recognized for five minutes members will take their -- phi minutes. members will take their conversations off the floor. the gentleman is recognized. mr. aguilar: thank you, madam speaker speaker. this is the final amendment to the bill

for the departments of housing for services for the homeless he know that the city has its own means whether raising revenue and, of course i agree with a much noted office building i'm excited we are move forward but as we move forward with this development on what is uncommon the goodwill site it is important to examine the transactions and evaluate our priorities and sets of needs we want to see as outcomes for property that is owned pub i know that van ness and 16 mission and others locations on mission what's the best use to raise money for city offers buildings or consider affordable housing opts i looked to this i know that is complicated in a lot of different mechanisms that are involved but i think that is an important conversation i want to thank supervisor david campos for calling that meeting. >> thank you, supervisor kim i have a presentation from john updyke we're joined today by the director of planning planning director ram thank you to director ram and the head of the mayor's office of housing and thank you mr. lee with that i'd like i'm going to turn it over to mr.

for the benefit on the economic benefit of those sites to build affordable housing adjacent to those particular parcels and because of both the state law transbay we'll be able to meet the 35 percent affordable housing percentage we call affordable housing shoulder and also affordable units as part of larger towers in the because of the towers that's the economics of those transactions work well, for affordable housing we'll not take on 40 stories building or the affordable housing for a couple of reasons one we could clearly build it people build large tall buildings all the time that's not the problem but the problem can we operate something that needs you know elevators to the 40th floor he genealogically deal with the question of the life safety systems and looking at some of the other residential high-rise residential the cost of operating those residential units granted they're in a market rate building close to what we charge for rent solely without an accomodations for reserves vessels vacate those costs will go up on a market was not on the medium north carolina and the conc

element i bet you haven't read the housing element not the last 3 housing element they're our market value price units are over 3 hundred percent when it comes to affordable housing they're below 4 hundred percent you all don't pay attention to the academy of arts university bowing hundred and hundreds of rental unit and converting them to dormitories you don't pay attention therefore all this commission with the very fancy name and investment and infrastructure this is the third bachelor you need to push tell the mayor i'll call out his name mayor edwin lee sit down with the mayor and when you talk about thirty thousand units mr. mayor please put in affordable housing in places where the land is not contaminated poor people shouldn't be treated liquor dogs and look at the dogs those dogs live better than the human beings that are living on the streets of san francisco today they're all over the place homeless people live all over the place they have this big submit for the mayor you'll see the poor people they will be invisible and you commissioners should take to john ram from the