c-span: and off to the left, senator howard baker. did you have any relationship with any of these people? >> guest: i did know howard baker--we--we were next to each other at a--at a dinner for the white house awards one year. he was a photographer, he used leicas, the same as i did, and he'd even published a book of his pictures, so we had that one thing in common. c-span: and here's a photograph of james mccord, but with him is terry lenzer, who also... >> guest: also figured... c-span: ...popped up working for, i believe, the democrats or somebody during the--doing sec... >> guest: he was doing research for the--for the white house on--on--investigative information that might have been negative, things that they could use to sort of counteract all that was happening to clinton. c-span: but in those days, who did he work for? >> guest: he was working for the committee, the--the watergate committee, and he was one of the--on the proseca-- cution-- prosecutor's team there. c-span: this is a--a familiar figure. >> guest: oh, yes--we'r

senator howard baker was the minority leader, emphasis on the word minority, in 1980.ish a job his father-in-law, everett dirksen, had held, same job, minority leader, 20 years earlier. he ran for president in 1980, and he lost badly to ronald reagan. and the story goes that when the convention came in 1980 in detroit, howard baker was spotted standing at the rim of the convention floor looking out at all these jubilant reagan delegates, and he said aloud, these aren't my people. [laughter] now, why is this? and matt was saying something about in this. ronald reagan brought new people into the republican party. he stuck to his core principles. margaret thatcher said that the problem with the conservative party in great britain was that they were too much into consensus politics. margaret thatcher was death on consensus politics, because it always led to moving the party left. so stick to principle, never shy from it, and one last thing i would suggest is our friend mark levin has a book out called "the liberty amendments." i hope you're familiar with it. and i hope all

howard baker was spotted standing at the rim of the convention floor looking out at all these jubilant reagan delegates. he said aloud, "these aren't my people." why is this? reagan brought new people into the republican party. thearet thatcher said problem with the conservative party in great britain was that they were into consensus politics. ongaret thatcher was death consensus politics. it always led to moving the party left. stick to principle. never shy from it. and one other thing i would suggest is, our friend mark has a book out called "the liberty amendment's." i hope you are familiar with it. i hope all of you in the colorado legislature have a chance to look at it and talk to people in other legislatures around the country. fromg power from -- back the federal government to the states is one way to do it. [applause] ronald reagan made that famous speech in 1964 that was called "a time for choosing." i think we are at that point again and we can do this. thank you. [applause] >> i regard myself as a reagan people ask when that -- when people ask me to define myself in republ

scientist for the national nuclear security agency recently addressed the university of tennessee howard baker center for public policy in knoxville. this is an hour. [applause] >> thank you. that wasn't overly generous introduction. the hospitality here at the baker center has been remarkable. it's a wonderful place, and i'm happy to be here. as an academic who ended up in washington for some reason, i wanted to give you my personal take on computational science what we do and kind of how i view this. i think it is an interesting story. i hope you will find it interesting, too. as a beta tester, i think this can fail and still be part of your learning. so we could look at it that way. i have, i guess, some framing thoughts on computational science. i guess i should project this. let's see. there we go. there are just a few topics i would like to talk to today tell you a little bit about how i think about it, where i see the challenges. some examples for what we've done and how we use it and where we are headed. depending on time, i will cover some of these in different ways. there is no even

in the midst of the debate, howard baker, the minority leader, the republican leader, gave his proxy to muvment. imagine that happening today? it passed unanimously. mr. president, we couldn't pass the time of day unanimously in this body. and yet it happened. and that brings me to a question that really puzzles me. how did this become a partisan issue? how did it come to divide us so cleanly along environmental lines? this discussion tonight is important, but it's all democrats and people, bernie and i, the two independents, senator sanders, the senator from vermont and i, the two independents, know people from the other party. i don't understand that. the leaders, the giants of the environmental movement. in maine when i was a young man were all republican. and when ed muskie got the clean air and clean water act passed in this body, it was with the support of the overwhelming support that replaced the clean air act, all the republicans, including very conservative republicans. senator buckley from new york supported the clean air act. i don't know how this or why this became a par

this actual conversation was cohosted by the baker and howard paul nuclear and thanks to howard for your help with this. thank you for coming on a very cold day. it's warming up and if you would like to join us after this for some refreshments and more discussion with dimitri that would be great. please help me thank dimitri for his time and we want to give a small token of our push asian to dimitri. [applause] >> the a health care program the united states is going to continue and it's not going to go anywhere in the sense that if we do not deal with the issue of innovation, if we do not translate all of those bindings that occur at the pharmaceutical industry at the university level into health care programs which are affordable and treat disease and cures them and as long as we do not understand their causes and how to treat or cure them there is no point really in talking about the solution of the health care problem. because health insurance coverage is what is going to provide health insurance but when it comes to drugs, when it comes to the premiums when it comes to subsidies wher

the actual commerce asian today was cohosted by the baker center and the howard hall institute for security. i like to thank howard for their help. thank you for coming on a very cold day. if you'd like to join us for some refreshment and more questions with dimitri, you can join us all stop help me thank dimitri for his time. we'd like to get a small token of our appreciation. [applause] of the is a look at some live events scheduled tomorrow on the c-span networks. a dutch politician number will talk about iran's nuclear program and her visit to iran last year live from the atlantic consult starting at 10:00 eastern here on c-span. the acting director of the white house national drug control policy will be testifying on president obama's $4 trillion budget for 2014. that is live at 3:00 eastern on c-span three. >> joining us is karen ignagni, the president and ceo of america's help care plan. joining us is mary agnes carey and julie rovner of national public radio. let me begin as we approach the deadline with the affordable care act. what will it look like? >> it will look like it looks

baker. he'll tell you. diplomacy is hard, and it's not helped by name-calling. >> well, someone should tell governor palin that nuclear war is not a metaphor for manhood. it's insanity. thank you, howard fineman, and thank you, david corn. >>> coming up, if you think the right-wing clown car would be stalled when cpac ended, think again there. is a national battle breaking out between rand paul and ted cruz. while paul is trying to expand the party, the street fighter cruz wants to torch it. >>> plus, tomorrow, two of chris christie's former top aides are due in court. bridget kelly who famously e-mailed "time for some traffic problems in fort lee" and bill stepien are both being called to explain why they're refusing to turn over potential evidence to the state committee investigating the lane closures at the george washington bridge. >>> and the mystery of the missing malaysian jetliner. how does a plane with 239 passengers aboard simply disappear? well, tonight there are more questions than answers. >>> and let me finish tonight with the people, what they'd like to know, what they want to know about what happened in new jersey in that scandal. and those people who don't want us to

in fact, at one point in the debate on the clean air act, howard baker, who was the republican leader, gave his proxy to muskie because he had to be out of the chamber for a few hours. now, again, mr. president, imagine today the minority leader giving -- the republican leader giving his proxy to one of the democratic senators on a major piece of legislation. i think it says something about, unfortunately, the difference between then and now in the united states senate, but it also said something about muskie's leadership. it was made up in parts of incredibly high intelligence. people who knew him well -- like senator george mitchell -- have said that he was one of the most brilliant people they'd ever met. so he had high intelligence, but he also had high emotional intelligence. he could ink ought t inought toe wanted -- he could intuit what people wanted and what they needed to hear and could persuade them. but he also had patience and was willing to listen and understand other people's point of view. the clean air act and later the clean water in 1972 are really the pillars of env