bandied about several months ago alongside tom steyer and the gentleman from starbucks -- >> howard schultz. >> that shows how well his came went. and you have to stop and ask yourself is an older white man who is wealthy who democrats want to pick. i don't think the answer to that has suddenly become yet. i any he's making a conscious choice by not taking donations he is not on the debate stage and sees that as advantageous but we have a history of a new york city mayor could play catch-up at the end and that was in 2008 with jg and how did that work out for him. >> in presidential politics money is good but writing a check may open the door but pressing the flesh closes the deal. you have to go to iowa and talk to voters. it should be against the law to run for president if you haven't been to iowa and had pork shop on a stick at the iowa state fair. you need to do that. >> as we're looking at this because we were talking in the break and you see pete buttigieg is a strong candidate in your mind f. he's putting himself out there is as a moderate is he a threat to any candidate? >> to bloo

problem. >> howard schultz is not mike bloomberg.ingness to invest in a campaign he's shown his willingness to be tough enough to take the criticism which howard schultz was not. he's the same age as joe biden but he acts younger. he talks younger he seems younger if he had run as an independent then he would get the disaffected republicans, the disaffected democrats and the large group right center i agree with what you're saying that it's going to be difficult for him, but i'm not saying it's impossible because if you look at the rules of the individual states, you look at the primary and caucus map, they will have spent everything they have to win those first four states and mike bloomberg will come in with more money than all of them, potentially more money than all of them combined on super tuesday, at least the potential is there. >> all of the excitement is about making sure that big money, big corporations, billionaires, that we get them out of the political process because they're controlling everything and the guy to do tha

howard schultz tried it are the only person who has been successful is president trump. he can speak to everyday americans. i don't think bloomberg can do that and look what he did for his third term. when you talk about looking out for the little guy he looks out for himself. david: for those who don't know there was a lot of books and you can only run two terms. he used a big pr campaign think that change so he could run for a third term. >> right. how was he able to do that? he opened his checkbook and pay people off in terms of communities and non-profits and things of that nature and got his third term and guess what he did after he got in? he actually reversed what he had dismantled. he put the rule back in place so nobody else can do it. >> it sounds like you're siding with warren and the fact that here's a billionaire buying his way in. he successfully do that by pushing his term as new york mayor. he's going to do it now so maybe heather i will direct this to you do you think it's justified that a wealthy man can choose to use his own funds to support himself an

he couldn't even announce his candidacy without getting yelled at >> former starbucks ceo howard schultzr full from a protester at a new york city book signing monday night after schultz said he is seriously considering a possible independent run for the white house. >> i am seriously considering running for president as a centrist independent, and i wanted to clarify that we're an independent, which i view merely as a designation on the ballot >> don't help elect trump. you egotistical -- >> sit down. >> -- billionaire [ bleep [ laughter ] >> seth: that's what you get for announcing your campaign in new york city. [ laughter ] "hey, schultz, how about you take one of those cake pops and stick it up your -- let's go mets." [ laughter and applause now billionaires -- billionaires are apparently worried that the leftward tilt of the current primary and in particular, the candidacies of elizabeth warren and bernie sanders in fact, it was reported bloomberg had been coaxed by another even wealthier billionaire. vox reported that jeff bezos asked michael bloomberg months ago if he'd consider

i feel like howard schultz when he left starbucks. a lot of years into congress and you step away and suddenly, everything goes to you know what in a handbasket. that is part of it. the other part is i was looking forward to serving the administration but was blocked senator, menendez, who refused to give me a hearing. i never got confirmed into a trade position i really felt i could help the administration with. >> fairly tight before you stepped down. are you expecting it to be easier this time? district, i won by a small amount. president trump or hillary clinton. about an eight point lead. in out of every hundred people voted for this conservative having voted for hillary clinton. this is a trump plus 15 district. a different dynamic even though it is a few miles apart. >> you were energetic. how do you feel about what adam schiff is doing right now? >> i came into congress with .hat -- with adam schiff he complained about jim wrote them. there is more than a little when heat he thought was running 19 years ago the impeachment of

i did a column a while back when howard schultz was running. said we don't need another billionaire. bloomberg is different. this is someone who has clearly started from modest means, made his entire fortune. has given a lot of it away. is a proven leader. i think the real question is how his background -- he's a jewish billionaire. how does that play? >> pro gun control and pro gay marriage. >> yes. as they say in the uk, it's throwing the cat among the pigeons. >> in the uk you have the choice now between jeremy corbyn, a socialist, and a hard brexit boris johnson. it seems like johnson is going to win. >> you used the word seems. look carefully at this election. there's all kind of ways it can go wrong for bors boris johnson. it's all about constituency candidates. i worry about how far the conservatives are going to get where they need to get to to a majority. they don't have one now. they've been in power nine years. they're going to lose seats to the scottish nationalists and in england to the liberal democrats. there's a brexit party tak

. >> you have howard schultz he took a crack. and he stepped away.u had tom steyer, he has spend his way to getting enough qualifying polls in early states, he could appear on debate stage, but if democratic voters really wanted a bill ain'abillionaire candidate, thed their chance, but bloomberg could say i'm used to dealing with big shot types, i know them. but on there are hand, his whole vibe he more fiscally conservative, more progressive. many democratic elites might fall into that category. kennedy: that is not where voters are -- those people far left, mean state us, it means -- status, taking your money and redistributing it where you think you know better than people who voted for you. >> i think he will come to find that there is more claiming to be fiscally moderate, thinking that elizabeth warren is too mean to billionaires, but socially progressive, there not a big market for that out there. in the democratic primary electorate. you know, it may be that he winds up putting up a strong challenge peeling away voters who liked biden's messa

but professor, i said the same thing about howard schultz when he was tempted to get into the race.e type of hostility. there's a class resentment i sense in all of this. >> also, if you were to look at the 12 years, i think people from new york saw leadership that resulted in not only a decline in prison populations but a decline in crime. new york became a global note of creativity, social tolerance. he showed an ability to thread the needle between the world's largest corporations in the world and some of the most progressive unions in the world. you have an individual whose philanthropy wasn't used to shape public policy to his own benefit but a lot done anonymously. this is an individual on the first-name basis with majority of world leaders. if there's anyone who can kind of slip into the shoes of a world leader and has a proven ability to bring people with much different backgrounds and much different agendaas together and lead what i'll call an evidence-based govern k, data, and appreciation for outcomes. you would think -- i, too, am shocked the mayor hasn't received a more

these veterans now in 2013 we had secretary of defense bob gates on our board zoo in classic howard schultzle with encouragement from bob he embraced this idea and we set a goal for ourselves to hire 25,000 veterans and military spouses. we now are above 26,000 and we're at a run rate of more than 5,000 a year and, jim, they make us a better company. >> you have 62 military families tell us about that >> our armed forces network of starbucks suggested let's build special starbucks stores near military base where people are stationed and their families this is gives them a place to create community with one another and communities that they are a part of so we now are at 62 of these military family stores we bring veteran service organizations on occasion in these stores to help connect veterans with service available to them and we're now on a path to probably build over -- we'll have over 130 of these stores in the next two or three years. >> kevin you look at numbers -- yes, let's cheer for that. [ cheers and applause my bad my bad wrong moment how do those stores do versus the company av

that's what happens with howard schultz and see how successful he could be.thinking. he's probably wasting his money like tom steyer. satisfaction with the democratic field is actually high with voters. elite donors with dissatisfied with it. that's a disconnect both of these candidates are jumping in the race don't understand. >> rick wilson. i have heard some democrats who are not happy to see bloomberg's name in this race. and imagine what his money could buy and how his money could change the fate and fortune of the democratic party. here is a guy who has changed life in america, public smoking bans and he largely credited it and we started that in new york. >> michael bloomberg, a guy who is worth $60 billion is dedicated to remove donald trump from office, he'll go up on the air and the state hurts by the trade wars with ads with donald trump's promises. he'll go out there and do digital stuff and data science program for candidates and raise money for people. if you want to get rid of trump. that's how to do it if you are a billionaire right now, not h

howard schultz. we go with the ed schultz by accident, too, sometimes. i get that. former msnbc the late ed schultz. let me ask you this medicare for all versus obama care. set aside the politics of it. you saw the results in kentucky. you know this. protecting obama care, advocating for the protection of obama care works in every county in this country. are you at all concerned that medicare for all hurts the democratic messaging on healthcare? >> so objectively, medicare for all absolutely polls worse than -- than obama care does. people are afraid of the unknown. and one thing we've learned is that when democrats show leadership on key issues, that public opinion can shift just like we did with impeachment. impeachment wasn't popular until nancy pelosi said she was pro-impeachment. now, there is a debate in this primary that will heavily focus on medicare for all versus just status quo protecting what we have now and that's up for the voters to decide. i'm not going to pretend that warren has the upperhand here on the numbers but she has a very coherent argument

party and is now back with us having consulted for the former independent political campaign of howard schultz. my friend, i want to start you off with how consequential you think today was, and then talk about these times we're living in right now. what does this mean? >> what we see right now, what we know happened is in my eyes a profound abuse of power by the president of the united states. who called a foreign head of state, withheld u.s. military aid, asked for the foreign head of state to launch an investigation into a u.s. citizen to aid his campaign for 2020. that citizen happening to be the son of a political opponent. if you can do that to the former vice president of the united states, it means you can do that to anybody. and if that's okay to ask a foreign head of state to investigate an american citizen, that means it's okay for the president of the united states to see someone say on television who doesn't like the criticism of him and order the irs, let's say to investigate them, or to target that individual with the department of justice. in a constitutional republic where the

he may not last longer than tom stier or howard schultz.voters are holding out for a star candidate, a celebrity, michelle obama, 50%. michael bloomburg only gets 6% so is the country with mayor bloomburg? >> no,s he's got an uphill battle, lauren, and it would be the fight of his life, so i guesses hoping to pull off a miracle. we're all just glad he's not running as an independent to be that ross perot candidate and throw a monkey in the wrench, honestly. this could work to our favor. lauren: and he's got a lot of money. elizabeth warren welcomed l him to the race, welcome, you're a billionaire so she has this fun tax calculator. the first question is, are you a billionaire? obviously i'm not. but it shows you how much you would pay and michael bloomburg, worth $52 billion, accordin accg forbes, would pay over $3 billion in taxes under elizabeth warren's plan. so obviously he would be the more favorable candidate to l wall street as well as president trump. how do you think this works out for elizabeth warren, who is welcoming him and say

they did not pass, look at howard schultz, look at tim ryan from ohio, the democratic party did not want will they give him to keep going and will he designate places like wisconsin, not you nork? [crowd boos] they never giftwrap credit, he does not speak in a political and acumen. they still talk and potable speak. donald trump talks in a very hard, tough time, he is a tough guy but he talks to cut through all the nonsense. it hits the working class exactly where they live and that's with a resignation with him. bloomberg does not have that. it's not a lack of charisma, italia action communicate as a mask munication. no one on the democratic party has that. there is no one there that can actually be him. what i do think bloomberg does is reorient the campaign and the scent just to have a say so and bloomberg is sophisticated on policy and it makes a lot of difference if you don't have to go on fundraising but if you could put billions of dollars to work in this campaign, i think you will have a lot of chips, they've had a very difficult time raising money can strum. i think bloomberg's

that's what happened with howard schultz. see how successful he's been. you can't be the former governor or the former champion of stop and frisk and then say the first primary you're going to get into is alabama where a large portion of the primary voters are going to be african-american. i don't know what he's thinking. he's probably wasting his money just like tom steyer but what it speaks to is this, the difference between what sometimes the democratic elites think and how the voters are behaving because satisfaction with the democratic field is actually very high amongst voters but it seems like the elite donors are dissatisfied with. >> rick wilson that, is true. i have heard some democrats who are not at all happy to see bloomberg's name in this race say imagine what his money could buy, imagine how his money could change the fate and fortune of the democratic party because here's a guy who like it or not has changed life in america incrementally. public smoking bans, he is largely credited with starting that in new york. >> look, if michael bloomb

steve schmidt, former republican strategist, most recently a former adviser to howard schultz. also notably a vefrnt of john mccain's campaign. and lawrence o'donnell, host of "the last word." at the big board all night long tonight, our national correspondent steve kornacki. claire, i'd like to begin with you. i think as a point of information everyone would agree it was a superbly well-moderated debate tonight. total control over candidates, material, and audience in the room as far as i could tell. i'd be fine if they were named permanent debate moderators. there was a moment that caused cringes late in the evening. i want to say in the last 30 minutes. it involved booker, biden, and harris. we'll air it and then we'll talk about it. >> i have a lot of respect for the vice president. he is -- swore me into office. he's a hero. this week i hear him literally say that i don't think we should legalize marijuana. i thought you might have been high when you said it. >> i don't play that obama coalition. i come out of the black community in terms of my support. if you noticed, i h

here's the thing, unlike billionaires like tom steyer or howard schultz, michael bloomberg has run fornows what it's all about. he has a record of doing one of the toughest jobs in government, being the mayor of new york city. normally you would say money can't buy an election. it's about organization and message. but what's unique is not only the number of candidates bunched at the top of the democratic field, but the way the calendar is structured. once we get past the first four early states that, first super tuesday has california, texas, north carolina, massachusetts, virginia. it's going to be hard for any other candidates to go in there with much momentum, especially much money. there really is a window of opportunity for bloomberg if he decides to do this. >> brett, you wrote on this. he wrote an article in "the new york times" "run, mike, run" was the title. >> not subtle. >> what's the insight you have? if he does well in california, that will be definitive for the rest of the race, certainly. and he can afford that market. >> there are two great arguments for michael bloombe

[laughter] >> reporter: that's kevin johnson, the ceo of starbucks now following howard schultz, andures. it is an amazing place. for people who know chicago, this was the old crate & barrel flagship store. four stories, five total floors if you count the basement. it's all coffee in there. well, there's some, actually, alcohol in there too. there's a bar in there too. it is one of six starbucks roasteries around the world, places like shanghai, seattle, tokyo, milan and new york city. but more importantly, we've got some news with kevin johnson. talking to him not only about china, which is huge, starbucks growing big in china as well. but we asked him about the whole conflict now between billionaires and people maybe running for president who don't like billionaires. he told us there should not be a conflict here, you can do well and do good. here's how he put it. >> starbucks was founded 49 years ago around a mission grounded in humanity. and with the belief that the pursuit of profit is not in conflict with the pursuit of doing good. and so we, our purpose and our reason for bein

. >> so you were working for howard schultz who was a starbucks ceo who toyed with a run. that? how'd that go? >> well, he as you know he thought about being a candidate for president. he took a look at it closely and in the end he decided don't want to be a candidate for president, so i'm delighted to be back. >> that's what you've got to say about that? >> i do, yeah. >> what has it ben like to -- if not take a step back from the news because i imagine you consume it, but watch the ark of the news and not be intimately involved on commenting on it? >> i think it givesioaa different perspective in that you're not talking about it three times, four times, five times a day having tweeted in nine or ten months. and so it's healthy to some level just to step back from all of it. i mean, part of i think living a democracy is freedom from the leader, the ubiquity of the president constantly in your face. this is not something you see in normal democracies. we ought to have freedom from our politicians. they shouldn't be the central figures in our lives, the all consuming and de

. >> howard schultz. >> exactly, what can you buy?s credit who has wealth tax credit, warren has a higher one, and sanders has the highest one which is 8% over $10 billion. what i think is most dinterestig is all these billionaires seem to think they have the solution and they can solve the world's problems better than the federal government can with its millions of workers many of whom are experts. we had another billionaire businessman who seemed to think he knew better than the entire federal government and at least the difference here at least in this sense is not very much. in this one sense bill gates is basically donald trump with better table manners. >> here's what i think is also different this time around speaking both to trump and what john said about previous fits of rage from wall street about being taxed. the wealth tax is a real thing, it's a new thing, it would genuinely change the balance sheets of billionian airs in the way other forms of taxation wouldn't. most of their money is in wealth. it's not in income. it wo

. >> ask howard schultz. >> exactly. alexis, what exactly can you buy? >> well, it's interesting.r is the only billionaire to his credit that his his own wealth tax proposal of 1%. warren has a higher were. it's 2% from 50 million to $1 million and 3% over that. and sanders has the highest one which is 8% over 10 million. they think they have the solution and they can solve the world's problems better than the federal government can with its millions of workers, many of whom are experts. i seem to remember we had another billionaire businessman that thought he knew better than the entire federal government and all of the workers that worked for him named donald trump. >> right. >> and i think the difference here, at least in this sense, is not very much, right? in this one sense bill gates is basically donald trump with better table manners. >> well, here's what i think is also different this time around, speaking to both -- both to trump and what john said about previous fits of rage from wall street about being taxed. the wealth tax is a real thing. it's a new thing. it would ge

th that actually is good news as we saw with howard schultz. this is going to be an uphill battle for bloomberg. you could have all the money in the world. doesn't mean you have a strategy. doesn't mean that's strategic. and when you look at the field and if he does jump in, yeah, he's going to be hurting mayor pete. he's going to be hurting more like an amy klobuchar like guy was saying. and he's not going to take votes away from warren. he's not going to take votes away from bernie. and earlier, willie, you were saying back in iowa -- i'm sorry, back in march he was thinking about running, he didn't. well there are was a poll in iowa that came out and it was done by one of the best polsters out there and it showed that he had one of the worst favorability amongst all of the democratic candidates. that was back in march. so i don't know if -- i remember this is a democratic party, it's a democratic base. i don't know if they're pining for another billionaire. >> we shall see very soon. of course, the big news coming out of alabama, willie, wil

, and in virginia take back both to house and the senate, and unlike, you know, tom stire and howard schultz, he has experience in the office. and so it is not conceivable that you could have three or four different candidates to win the early states and go into the super states of california, texas and virginia and depleted of the resources and a bloomberg to come in to buy up a lot of ads at this time. so certainly, obstacles to overcome with the progressive base and african-americans, but he is an intriguing candidate for a lot of people. >> susan, your thoughts? >> he is going to be an intriguing candidate and it makes sense to skip the early lates, because he won't do well entering so late in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina and nevada. but it makes sense for him to enter the way he is doing it and run a national campaign as steph was talking about. he has the resources, and talking about 40% of the delegates being decide on march 3rd. so they have a path in their mind that works. mike bloomberg and the people around him do not enter a situation like this without a plan. and back

question is will in thes allow and pass go lest not forget howard schultz let's not forget others thereere howard and tim ryan other guy i'm thinking about that couldn't pass go because he did not want a centrist. it certainly i agree with dagen in sense that the idea that -- 75-year-old or whatever, you know, 77 set the white billion nor is answer the democrats are looking for. who is not even going to participate in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, is going to go all of the distance. >> if there's a financial calamity next year then he can swoop in and address that because he was great for new york and for the finances. he was. he also very much not at -- he's very got the gun control -- entity and so he's very left on some issues but he could find that middle ground next year but i think, i think that how he interacts with individuals in the midwest and in the south is beginning to be really critical. >> i bet one of the first thing he would do is cutting debt that's something that's important to himlet take a break we're getting started this morning we have a big show this morni

it but in my opinion he takeaway from everybody, i sort of feel he's the candidate that may be howard schultzhought he would be. >> i never thought what what he said when i did a interview, i was on the network, why don't you come on the show and he said, maria, i don't need to go on the show, rich people watch your show, i've got those people already, i would be better going to gay bar downtown. that's what he said to me. he didn't come on the show, so that's the question -- >> he does have an american story, american middle class and is a self-made billionaire, that's a pretty good american story. >> do i think it's pretty weird, though, in this era if a 77-year-old white man who is the billionaire is the face of the democratic party. maria: that's another thing that he said to me, he said to me, why would anybody vote for a jewish billionaire rich guy who is going to run for president? so it's all the questions about whether he resinates with the rest of the country. >> a lot of democratic voters when they learn he wants to take awagons and sugary sodas or active effort -- >> he got killed

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look what happened to howard schultz. >> remember, who votes in these primaries in many cases and ine strong base. and that base is going to skew even farther to the left. so in a general election you're trying to get the swing voters, independents who could vote republican or democrat. they're the common sense voters in a lot of ways. when you look at the primaries and caucuses, these candidates have to al peel to the far left and what we have seen is that the far left mentality is that of late term abortions, is that of a new green deal that would cost trillions of dollars, eliminate the fossil fuel industry, basically try to go after corporate america. and so they have -- their philosophy is that it's very connected to the liberal base which are those people who go out to vote on primary or caucus day. maria: we'll leave it there. mercedes, good to see you this morning. thanks so much. >> thank you so much. maria: did you want to add anything, lee? >> i think the american people are starting to go to the far left. there is this whole -- not all people, but the democrat party is in

he could have howard schultz moments and it doesn't matter how much money he spends he'll end up withnly one to have the money to advertise in california and texas and the other dozen states or so. where 40% of the delegates will be chosen. it is a strategy that could work for him. but he's got to do a lot of things right between now and the time that advertising goes up. >> here is a couple of challenges for him, joe. one challenge is that it is certainly the case that you could do what they seem to be intent on doing, skip the first four contests in february and go hard in the march contest as you said, not just super-tuesday but over the first three weeks in march by the time we get to the end of the month, 75% of the democratic delegates will be allocated and loy the them over the course of the three weeks starting with super-tuesday. so is it possible to do that in terms of a delegate accumulation? it is possible. the problem for him is two-fold. one is that because he's not planning on actually taking any -- on seeking any donors that means he will self-fund and never meet the d

for everybody that is lamenting the crash and burn of the howard schultz campaign, we now have michael bloomberg who is running as a center left independent even though he's running in the democratic primary. i think in the democratic primary there is a market for somebody who is center left liberal and not far left progressive. and so it's not like there's no calling for that. i think the question for bloomberg is, one, can you even though we've thrown out convention so many times, can you win a primary, democratic or republican, by ignoring the early states? we have no evidence to suggest that you can show up on super tuesday, no matter how much money you have, and gain momentum and ath nation imaginar party. you he sshow up on super tuesdad people have formed opinions. and i think he'll make an electability argument, whether he says it outright or not. but you have to ask as a matter of cultural politics, not economic policy or security policy, but on guns, issues like marriage, issues like abortion, can he compete with president trump in the right states with the right voters enoug

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