, he's just saving money "inside the department so he can spend more of it on the needy people that hud way of life for ben carson. everyone's got to tighten their belts. - earlier this month, carson said public housing should not be "too comfortable because it will make people say, 'i'll just stay here. they will take care of me.'" - that is extreme. he wants to help people, but he still wants to keep them a little miserable. yeah, just so they stay sharp. i wonder if he applied this philosophy to his brain surgery career. he's like, "i only removed part of your tumor. "i want to keep your brain on its toes. also, i put some toes in there." now, you may disagree with ben carson's view, but you have to admire a man who's so consistently committed to saving money. like, you have to admire that. unless it's all bullshit. - a whistleblower at the department of housing and urban development is sounding off. an ex-staffer says she was demoted after refusing to spend more than the legal $5,000 limit to redecorate secretary ben carson's new office. - she says her supervisor told her, "$5,000 w

when he said this woman from hud was going to become the new inspector general. i think this is what shame actually looks like with these guys, even when you get caught and you have to climb down. still, pick a fight about it. blame someone else. pretend to still be on offense. but what they were trying to pull off with this inspector general switcheroo, they are now not doing it. so, to the democrats who pushed on this, this is one of those rare examples that shows that fighting over this stuff sometimes works. you can't win if you don't play, right? i mean, even when it seems futile, right? i understand why sometimes it seems futile. we are in a new era where the president is retaining his private business interests and keeping all of his finances secret and he's giving secret jobs to his kids and he's hired cabinet officials is senior regulatory advisors who came into government service and immediately started making policy to benefit their own business interests which they have then lied about. it's exhausting, right? just big picture. imagine any other time

so this career official at hud told him no, you can't do that. you're a public official now. and so, obviously, they had to get rid of her. they got that career official right out of there, and they brought in someone more amenable to the ways and desires and furniture tastes of this new administration. they brought in someone who had worked on the trump campaign. she's a lawyer. i believe she is from queens. she had no relevant experience whatsoever, but she'd worked on the campaign so, they brought her in. and she took a look at that table, and the way she saw it, she actually saw that as quite a legitimate expense. she approved it. it's nice to have people like that you can bring in when you need them. and trust me, there are many instances when need a person like that in the trump administration. behold ryan zinke. ryan zinke was a republican of congress before trump named him to run the department of interior. one gets the sense from mr. z c zincy that he would like to make that as high profile. he rode a horse to work on the first day of the job. he use fare funds to st

we were mainly through hud her our public housing, roughly of 0% to 32% of area median income.t segment starts to include the homeless as well, those who are 0% median income. that is our main conduit. we also work with different federal grants, if you will, housing grants. that would be through our state housing and finance development corporation. we work with them trying to make sure there is enough funding that is pipelined that comes to the state. then we can then distribute that to our counties, who also work with h.u.d. and federal agencies to ensure they can do their part in achieving affordable housing goals. host: you brought up homeless. how often does the lack of affordable housing lead to homelessness, and how much of a problem is that in hawaii? guest: i think that maybe i think myself back four years ago ige administration first came in, we had a serious homeless problem. they were camping out in the streets, sort of like gypsy homelessness. when the police came in, and we wanted to clean up an area, they just moved to another public site and things like that. si

a hud official saying, quote, due to a recent miscommunication at the staff level, hud mistakenly announcedfts was going to be detailed to another agency, but it turns out the story is not in fact over. in fact, it's just getting weirder. "the washington post" reports tonight that susan israel tufts was scheduled to be interviewed this morning for another inspector general position at another agency, but she did not show up for the appointment. and now instead of being the inspector general of the interior department or some other cabinet department, she has resigned from the government entirely. what's more, three people tell "the post" tonight that ms. tufts has not even been at work for the last two months, even though she remained on the payroll. so we don't really know what's going on here, but there is definitely something going on here that we do not yet understand. i'm telling you, friday nights, it's when all the weird stuff happens. we'll be right back. of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by ra

some help from hud and we helped them. and at that time, one of my clients killed somebody in a pool room by whacking them in the head with a acoustic. -- cue stick. you have to deal with that, i thank you for your time. >> chair c. brinkman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> clerk: christine johnson [reading names] those are the last people to turn in speaker cards regarding these two matters. >> good afternoon, my name is christine johnson, i'm a former planning commissioner. i spent a lot of time in land use. in-housing, office development, small businesses and never got the time to talk about how do we make our streets for people instead of for the cars just driving through to another neighborhood. so i'm really happen -- happy we are seeing this. my campaign office is 6th and jesse, i see this everyday, i see people almost get hit by cars every day. i see people sitting out on the sidewalk, that's their living room. people can't get by, and taylor street isn't that much different. one thing i wanted to make sure we

ben carson at hud. the financial services committee has some oversight over that, because hud is, issues debt. it is out there in the markets. connell: sure. >> i believe that they would be, that would be under her rubric and she will be holding them accountable, holding ben carson accountable. the other thing i will be think is interesting, gets to his point, banks feel they are off the hook these days. regulatory attention among progressive democrats, elizabeth warren, maxine waters, would control the house various committees if they do win, still an if. connell: elizabeth warren on the senate side but you got a point. >> those type of progress serves are more acutely focused on tech. they think they will go after tech more than the banks. the fact that facebook regulates so much of our life. connell: tech could get it from all side. >> they could get it from all sides. they think these progressive democrats will definitely go for tech. i tell you, maxine waters, main stuff, from people close to her,

hud. quicken has a press release in 2000 zwibing hud. everybody says, oh, hud didn't have much to do with this. poppycock. hud was the riskiest lender in 2000. here's the evidence. a press release by quicken, from information, provided by whom? hud? >> 2002, frank takes a victory lap over fha. he actually says, the government is our only competitor when it comes to public funding for housing. we have defeated fha. given president clinton's 1994 call to action by all of these parties, the report to congress that hud came out with in 2010 can only be called chutzpah. somehow, mortgage industry participants appear to have drawn to encourage buyers to take on risky loans. a key to the misdiagnoses was ignoring the role of the affordable housing goals. the special affordable goal is very important. so the goal goes from 40%. it was at 30% before hud actually sets a goal. that was an interim goal in the statute. it eventually goes toll 56, but it's at 40% in 1996, but the special affordable goal, which is for even lower income than 100% down t

hud, quicken has a press release. in 2000, describing hud. everybody says hud didn't have much to do with this. poppy dock. hud was the riskiest lender in 2000. a press release by quicken from information provided by whom? hud. 2002, frank range takes a victory lap over fha he says our government, the governors are only competitor when it comes to public funding four housing, we have defeated fha. given president clinton's 1994 call to action, by all of these parties. the report to congress that hud came out with in 2010 can only be called chutzpah. to encourage borrowers to take on risky loans. they were in the middle of this. key to the misdiagnosis was ignoring the role of the gse affordable housing goals. special affordable goals, very important. so the goal goes from 40%, it was at 30% before had you had sets a goal. it eventually goes to 56. but it's at 40% in 1996. but the special affordable goal which is for even lower income than 100% of median income, down to 60, was even a larger goal that goal went from 12 to 27. in fact virtually

then we distribute that to our counties, who also work with hud and federal agencies to ensure they can do their part in achieving affordable housing goals. host: you brought homeless into this. how often does the lack of affordable housing lead to homelessness, and help -- and how big of a problem of that -- of a problem is that in hawaii? caller: we had a serious homeless problem. they were camping out in the gypsys, sort of like homelessness. when the police came in, they just moved to another public site. we have put emphasis on transitional shelters. , alsoty club of honolulu looking for lowrise apartments purchasing them and making them into transitional shelters and apartments for the homeless. of work ine a lot the philanthropy world. philanthropists in hawaii took it upon themselves. he saw vacant land on the outskirts of an industrial area that had the components, public transit. get a little village community. to do the next phase. the first phase, my understanding, is he did it with sweat equity and volunteers. the total cost was about $20 million to do the village. there ar

ben carson over at hud say this is happening. one of his people. the interior department says no.plicated story. the backdrop to this is that the acting inspector general at the interior has several investigations ongoing tied to the secretary right now. there are numerous cases where a career official is pursuing allegations that involve the secretary and there is this position that, for example, the president is free to nominate someone to occupy this post. what cropped up is late friday hud secretary carson sent out an e-mail congratulating one of his appoi appointees for moving over as acting inspector general. this was news to the inspector general office. this really and apparently folks in the white house who said they were unaware. we and others reported on this. there was scrutiny given the fact this office is investigating matters tied to the secretary and yesterday afternoon interior came out saying it was 100% false information in that e-mail that was secretary carson. at this point the white house is saying they are not nominating this person that she's not take this

kendall was fired last week, a fact she discovered when a colleague showed her an e-mail written by hud secretary ben carson. why ben carson? the trump administration had suddenly installed as the new acting inspect sor general at the interior department general appointee from hud. surprise, surprise. the new acting inspector general overseeing all those investigations has no government oversight experience. yet will now oversee the investigations into the secretary's conduct. we've asked if those investigation also be pursued but we have not received a reply. the decision of this station to put a political appointee in that position shows there's still a government to run. yet the reality of how it's being run right now is terrifying. michael lewis has details on that in his new book and will join me, next. >>> all right. here's how you demolish the federal government. understaff it, hire people incomp tent, indifferent, or both, and what you get is a government with nearly half of 700 key government positions untilled. and just as one example from michael lewis' new book, a jaw droppi

. >> j-hud and i were more excited than anyone else. >> oh, my gosh. >> the process working with theseour awesome coaches was just like every day i'd learn >> no drama darling and ladies of "the voice" because who needs a repeat of the woman very woman nastiness she had with nicki minaj on "idol"? >> maybe i should just get off the [ bleep ] panel. >> that's my move. i was going to do that the next time she ragged on me. >> i was going to walk out. >> you are so thieved out. it's like the kid and clapping. >> i was about to say carey. >> oh and i was about to say [ bleep ]. >> mariah's three-episode run as a knock outs adviser is definitely a win/win. it's sure to boost ratings for "the voice" and provide love for her upcoming new album. >> i s s's talking to them like i'm in some kind of mariah carey course. >> it feels like yesterday i was a back-up singer traveling around doing stuff. >> brenda k star. i know i read it all. >> as for why mimi decided to return to a competition show? it's all about her passion for music. >> for me there was never another option. it was just always th

is 39 billion enough to run hud?bout -- >> my state department, yes. >> realistically, again if you can pull it off it is amazing but i think the more realistic market, cap everybody and let inflation eat it away five or 10 years. cutting is physically difficult for people in government pull it off without being a crisis like a few years ago. the economy is so strong now, strongest in a decade, or longer with some metrics going back to the '60s, '70s, that said you shouldn't run increasing deficit in such a strong economy. like running a stimulus plan on top of a hot economy. this is time to start -- charles: ever political will to do it? this provide cover for it? >> strong economy should be the time and the place to do something about this. charles: yeah. >> i can promise you, you want to increase gdp? cut inefficient, cut ineffective size of government. it's a start. we'll see where it ends up. charles: when president carter came into department, there wasn't a department of education. it would have a budget of 60

and find a radical solution to illegal immigration in traditional hud's cat with me cause. i'm. right. then tell me. about the midwife says the islanders aren't racists the problem is the sheer number of undocumented migrants and most of all the estimated two thousand young people who live on the streets and have no prospects in life. cassim is eighteen years old and lived on the streets for years he was lucky and then to top living with a foster family now he's learning to be a waiter a job he always wanted to do. he no longer goes hungry. some food to get a degree but. this is good for me. it took me off the streets and put an end to my stealing go. for shit i felt lost i was broken had nothing to do it was left on the streets it was the survival of the for chance and the new democrat to look out for ourselves you leave not everyone is lucky enough to be integrated into the system and find work it would say but then one guild leader says you can do what would cover you all to shows his mother a range for him to travel from the camorra silence to my office with relatives but th

we are working with hud. we are also working with state and local communities on the issue of homelessness. we are funding homes and projects across the country to get homeless veterans off the street. north carolina, senator tillis and i worked on the creation of a program that gets them off the street and gets them sober and with a job. >> can you tell me right now how many homeless veterans there are? >> i can't tell you that number because it changes every day. >> i do realize that, but you know, give and take. >> no, i can't, because it's -- we don't -- we don't know. we just don't know. it's the same -- we have the same problem with homelessness that we have with suicide. the tragedy in our department is that every day 22 veterans commit suicide. yet 14 of those veterans are outside of our purview. >> so i think that mr. chairman, if you don't mind this is an area that we really need to provide as far as i am concerned more focus. so whatever efforts you are doing to reach out to the veterans i think th

this came at the hud student institute in washington. this is just over 30 minutes. ♪ >> thank you, ken, for that kind introduction. to members of the board of trustees, to dr. michael pillsbury, to our distinguished guests, and to all of you who true to your mission in this place think about the future in unconventional ways. it is an honor to be back at the hudson institute. for more than a half century this institute has dedicated itself to advancing global security, prosperity, and freedom. while hudson's hometown has changed over the years, one thing has been constant, you always advanced that vital truth. that american leadership lights the way. and today, speaking of leadership, allow me to begin by bringing greetings from a great champion of american leadership at home and abroad, i bring greetings from the 45th president of the united states of america, president donald trump. [applause] from early in this administration, president trump has made our relationship with china and president xi a priority. on april 6th of last year,

a family member argues they hud ha -- should have handled the situation less aggressively since he had those issues. the five officers involved in the incident are on paid leave while the visiinvestigation continues. the family wants all the video turned over. and the district attorney says his office will release all of that material to the family so they can have answers to their questions about what happened. >> reporte anousha rasta, nbc bay area news. >>> a city is divided over the proposal to build a big box store. this is what the store and the space for the shops would look like. they want to build it near i-580 on hacienda drive. traffic is already a hassle in that area people say, supporters say it would create jobs. if tonight's meeting runs long the vote will be postponed. >>> tackling the complicated issue of homeless families. san jose's city council is considering whether families can park in a safe area. >> reporter: right now the city council is inside debating this issue. they have been talking about it for more than an hour after hearing from the public, including so

now, keep in mind, this was complicated also because president bush's hud kept pushing up the goals. this was president bush. and president bush kept talking about the ownership society and he kept celebrating the home ownership rate. it was not just the democrats, it was republicans as well. so greenspan wanted to protect the federal reserve's freedom is not quite the right word, but i will use it anyway, freedom to conduct a monetary policy. he tried to keep monetary policy out of politics. i can assure you that -- and i can even name some of the democrats in congress who would have attacked him and that's the answer. >> i think we ought to give the audience an opportunity to ask some questions. yes, sir. >> the point has been made that the problem with the subprime loans was the very low downpayments compared to the 20% down payments and yesterday va loans also have a very low down payment and i've never heard that they were a significant problem. the only thing i can think of is that a veteran would only get a va loan if they had an honorable discharge. they weed out the people w

san francisco got the largest sum of the money from hud. >>> a march and rallily are expected in eastay today. a group called oakland group communications is calling on the sheriff's office to change the alameda jail. they cite things like ail pregnant woman giving birth in a cell, dirty kitchen conditions and the practice of night releases. the group plans to call attention to their cause with a one-mile march to the alameda county administration building at 9:30 this morning. >>> a life of laughter and collecting. hundreds of items that belonged to the late robin williams and on thursday.ll go sotheby's is auctioning more than 300 items worth more than $3 million and they include fine art, awards, photos, watches, even toys. the items belonged to williams and his second wife, marsha williams. many of the memorabilia was stored at their home in san francisco's sea cliff neighborhood. you can start placing bids online starting 7:00 a.m. thursday. >>> gerber is looking for its new spokesbaby. entering your little one is easier than ever. upload a photo of your baby to instagram and the

. >> isn't this a hud program? isn't that something that ben carson talked about as well?this is something completely new it was created under the new republican tax law as a way to try to draw investment into some of the underserved areas there are obviously many different programs across the government for trying to achieve that same goal but this is a program that gives big tax breaks to investors in exchange for trying to finance the developments. >> do you know how they identify a low income area? what are the metrics to identify it and the borders of it >> this is up to the state to decide they can nominate different census tracks within their borders and submit it to treasury department in order to get certified and in order for those areas to receive this type of financing there's a lot of debate over some of the neighborhoods and whether or not they really deserve that type of designation, whether some of the money may not have been flowing into the areas already, but what the treasury department says is that these are high poverty areas that have poverty rates we

for hud, metro fair market rent area that it contains san francisco. and the reason why this is important is because we're hearing a couple things. we're all in agreement about a housing crisis. when we're talking about a.m.i., could you point 55 a.m.i. for one person, 55 a.m.i. means that person is making $45,600 a year. that's just one person. if you wanted to get married or partner up with someone, that means that between the two of you, you would not be able to exceed the income at $45,600. often times, we use teachers as an example. a former teach us, an educator malcolm x elementary school. teachers, when they come into the school district, they are earning 57 a.m.i. -- $57,000, excuse me. so that right there, this is just one teacher at $57,000. which means that would have to be at 70%. you see what i'm saying. what i'm trying to say is we do a lot of talk and we place a lot of creed anson the 55 level. i'm not here to argue that we don't need it. as a matter of fact, in my opening remarks i gave you statistics about how many units we have that

hud gave roughly $99 million to nearly 300 housing authorities across the country and san francisco actually received the largest share. >>> apple users who have updated their devices to ios 12 are running into a real problem with imessage. some messages are being sent to the wrong people. can you imagine? apple is trying to create a unified thread for imessage contacts who have multiple phone numbers and e-mails based on their apple ids but it's not working for people, specifically families who share a single apple id. while there is no permanent fix yet, some users have found a work-around. they say to go to your settings and sign out of apple id for messages. >> yikes. or don't send anything. >>> google maps is about to make your commute easier to understand. under the new commute option, android users will get alerts if there's any issues on your route to work and offer alternative routes. android and ios users with mixed commutes like driving and taking public transit can see exactly when to leave for each leg of the trip. it will also factor in transit depab tours to make sure you have

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between fema and sba and hud and the other federal agencies getting in there and supporting the statedamage assessment and see what the requirements are and see what the needs are. i'm sure fema is going to come up with the 1-800 registration number so people can start applying for assistance as well as sba, and for small businesses. and it's complicated in the sense you have to be safe and you have to make sure people do their work without being in harms way. >> and is it a different 800 number for each one wf theof th events people call? when will they be able to make contact through that 800 number? >> i'm sure the government and fema will be putting up that number very soon. i know when was director of fema we had a 1-800 number you could call for fema sbra, and i'm sure they'll have the numbers up shortly. >> i appreciate your expertise. >> thank you so much. >>> and when we come back, instead of working with fema officials tonight the president decided to have a rally in pennsylvania. opportunity is everywhere. like here. and here. see? opportunity. hi! cinturones por favor. gra

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getting closer to deormining what happened t the two young women, the bodies of the sisters found in the hud n river last week after being reported msing in august. duct taped together, clothes on, no outward signs of trauma. the girls with 22 and 16 years old. their mom told detectives the day before the girls' bodies were found she got a call from an officia the saudi arabia embassy ordering t family to leave the u.s. because the daughters applied for political well, today, new word from the new york detective onca this . >> we made significant progress t pieciether pieces of the puzzle to learn what happened, detecti down in virginia. they conducted a number of interviews in virginia including members of themmediate family as well as others. and those interviews are really unraveling in some way, a piece of the puzzle behind the scenes, at was going on in the two lives.adies' >> the pair moved from saudi arabia to the u.s. in 15 and living in fairfax county. we made attempts to reach out to the family, but have not had any success. doreen, leon, back to you. >> erica thank you. >>>er guns

republican political consultant and post of vox at hud.f for this other than the fact is it seems to be an attempt to disenfranchise. >> there is some type of refriction for african americans or any marginalized group of people from being able to participate in voting process does not help the republican party. i think as a party that has historically for the past 25 or 30 years had a difficult time targeting not only african americans and asian-americans as well, we can't afford as the country becomes more diverse and competing within the communities. >> you are of the belief there are instabses where republicans could compete for african-american support? >> tra dilgzally, we are very conservative, but when you ask americans why they don't vote republicans, they will point to the rhetoric. many republicans and now in the age of president trump. i like to say that as an african-american, sure, there are many things that perhaps my grandfather can't enjoy. merely because of my party affiliation and i have not to say something. it's bigger

i know there are opportunities for high, housing and urban development, and hud is looking at beginning to look at -- you heard shon say he does not know what a pdf was. people who are incarcerated, i helped work with a young man who had been to jail and all of that, he did not know what a resume was. he did not know how to send a fax. so the disconnect, the opportunity that we must have, these are american people, these are citizens. the othere me cry day. i said "who did you vote for?" she said "i can't vote . ex-felon." but listening to the panel, the connections being made, we must support our president, because he means to do prison reform. i am convinced of it. [applause] one of theknow, things most people have no clue what is this magical word, and i hope everyone writes this down and nobles are, it is called nullification." with that basically means is crime for thetcrime is a valid tebow sentence, you don't have to vote to convict them because you are serving on the jury. what happens when you go to u.s., particularly the attorneys, and prosecutors, who are throwing hundreds of

. >> here to discuss it, hud's secretary under president obama and his new book is "an unlikely journeyom you heard -- this is scare tactic, right? he's using to rev up supporters before the midterm. >> absolutely. hes done that to rev up his campaign. it's been his bread and butter issue. it's no surprise he's going back to it. my hope is we have candidates pushing back on this. and speaking to the facts. that the vast majority of immigrants both legal and undocumented are law-abiding while in they're in here in the country. in fact the rate of crime for those immigrants is better than for those of us who were u.s. citizens. >> it's smaller than u.s. foreign. >> those are facts. as people pointed out there's a difference between fact and emotion. this is an emotional issue. >> the echo chamber in conservative media. amp plifying the message. this is fox news. the host. watch this. >> your views on immigration will have zero impact and zero influence on a house dominated by democrats who want to replace you the american voters with newly amnestied citizens and ever increasing number of

>> well, we were also in regular consultation with hud. we do meet with them monthly. we did talk with the field office about this. we were all looking at this two-year tool that was giving us erratic predictions. h.u.d. actually said that they thought we could continue issuing 25 vouchers a month for the moving on initiative. i was between march and august where we were talking with them about that. had wanted us to be fully you develop -- for do you devised so we could -- fully you develop fully utilized. we were -- it is very obvious to us that if we miscalculate by a few percentage points of how much we will spend, we can end up with a large shortfall. h.u.d. does have funding, a limited amount of funding for shortfall situations. it is true that nine out of the 11 bay area housing authorities are in shortfall. they are regularly in shortfall and apply for shortfall funding. the other two housing authorities are moving on -- the moving initiative are moving to work and they are able to use their funds flexibly. but you pointed out the magnitude is enormous with our