the i. c. c has the night for requests for an interview, step 5, some for inside story in the hague. that spring, you know, i guess in london we have jeffrey robinson, founder of that history chambers and for the president of the war crimes cooled in sierra leone. and jeffrey was appointed by the un this distinguished jurist member on it's just as council in haifa. we have so son is i here, human rights lawyer, a legal advisor for the civil society coalition for emergency in our society. and in new york, we have mach glasgow, he's look to advise the dutch and you practice for peace. mark was in gauze during the operation cost led to that was these ready? $12009.00 to investigate the come doctor will he also instruct instructs what crimes investigators at the institute of international criminal investigations. thank you. all of you for joining us. i want to start with you jeffrey, because the rules of little we hit least terms. all you have child international, humanitarian law, l. a. c. laurel bo

but so far the h i. c. c has not met any formal announcement that it will step up its investigation into both of the war crimes committed by it's for our or how much? in 2021, the i to see decided that this has jurisdiction opened up to 5 palestinian territories . even though as for al, doesn't recognize the international criminal court. numerous cases happens file since then, including the killing of al jazeera report to read about a clay who was killed by his for a solar system 2022. but so far, no progress has been announced. let alone arrest warrants issued. this is in contrast with what happened after russia and say that ukraine, 5, these days later, the prosecute knows that he will start a former investigation. and since then, and arrest warrant against president vladimir putin has been issued a full blockade of gaza is considered a war crime and possible genocide, according to international law, exports. the i. c. c has the night for requests for an interview. step 5, some for inside story in the hague

i. c r c has been reiterating. it's called the parties of the complex to make sure that they are released immediately. we have engaged with a mouse and a dialogue to make sure that they understood what their obligations are. and at the same time, the tax it is relative suffert's. i cannot justify the limitless destruction of gaza. there has been tragedy on both sides of this complex and the i, c or c, i think has a neutral the intermediary and a role as an entirely neutral unimpressed organization. works with people that are affected, both in israel and gaza and to turn to the situation and gaza itself. if you don't mind, what are you hearing about conditions for civilians that are now? i would certainly from talking to my colleagues that are based there at the i feel like she has over a 100 stuff based in gaza. the situation is dire. i. there has been a distinct lack of food, water, electricity. and now i such a huge number of people being instructed to move sites in conditions like this. it is impossible for the

c c. but it also doesn't have a police force, so it comp force member countries to a cigna trees to the i c. c. the hand of a one seats, individuals that will so israel is not a policy to the right statute does not recognize the authority of the i c c. so why is it doing this one? it's all about legal accountability. it's all about reminding the international community of the why the context of the conflict is going on of the comp time. and if i see the palestinians also pursuing a judgment from the international court of justice as well. so that's why it again, this is all about international accountability. this is a result of a vote of the engine with assembly late last year that gave the international court of justice the, the power to give its legal opinion over israel's occupation of palestinian land, where the price is now of uh, seeing written submissions, oral submissions from those, the size of the policy to this case will take place in february before judgment. later on in the year. again, it's all about shining the international spotlight and what palestine says is along an acce

and the i, c, r c has been reiterating. it's called the parties of the conflict to make sure that they are released immediately. we have engaged with a mouse and a dialogue to make sure that they understood what their obligations are. and at the same time, the tax it is relative suffert's. i cannot justify the limitless destruction of gaza. there has been tragedy on both sides of this complex and the i, c or c, acting as a neutral intermediary and a role as an entirely neutral and impressions organization works with people that are affected, both in israel and gaza. and to turn to the situation and gaza itself. if you don't mind, what are you hearing about conditions for civilians? they are now well, certainly from talking to my colleagues that are based there at the i feel it's he has over a 100 stuff based in gaza. the situation is dire. i, there has been a distinct block of food, water, electricity, and now i such a huge number of people being instructed to move sites and conditions like this. it is impossible for the i

but it also doesn't have a police force, so it comp force member countries to a cigna trees to the i c. c to hand over one seats, individuals will. so israel is not a policy to the room statute does not recognize the authority of the i c. c. so why is it doing this? when it's all about legal accountability? it's all about reminding the international community of the why the context of the conflict that's going on the comp time. what does israel i'm asked? i've been accused of violating international humanitarian nor with their attacks on civilians. israel has dropped thousands of bombs on crowded residential areas of guns or something and ta neighborhoods. these indiscriminate attacks on civilians are in violation of article 25 of the hague conventions. a series of international treaties, legal experts say the intentional targeting of civilians by both on mass and israel also constitutes a war crime is randy ministry has imposed a total siege on gaza palestinians and aid workers say the lack of food medicines, fuel and basic supplies has made the situation and the gaza strip catastrophic.

and of course the i, c. c, and the packing. all with that threatening investigation, so i think we know where this is going in since as well. all right, we have to leave you here now have done cool valid case human and labor rights lawyers. thank you so much for speaking with us. a thank you. now john, list of political analysts, robin le, cash sides of the facilities web preventable, but the u. s. gives all a free rain the united again, there could have called this off in the 1st few days if it's thought to. it could have even told b is rarely just to limit seville, a civilian casualties, which it clearly did not. it's allowed. the is really military to do, essentially, whatever it pleases and what we've seen so far until today. and so the probing operations that we see around the gaza strip from the is rarely military has been a civilian massacre. that's very clear. and even joe biden himself came out with the claim that he does not trust or the the statistics from the palestinian health ministry and international organization

the i. c. c has jurisdiction in the occupied palestinian territories and numerous cases including the killing of al jazeera joiner's to read. i actually have been filed in his own you comment, sofa, the ice se prosecute as sad that possible war crimes committed by how most can be investigated the road statute. so yeah, we have jurisdiction on the territory of the state policy. and we have jurisdiction in relation to conduct committed by national state parties. meanwhile, the civilian death toll increases by today and victims of possible war crimes don't have the luxury of waiting for justice step $0.05, which is 0. they all joining me now in the studio. as i said, i'll boss real, she's a research fellow at the art center for research and policy studies. i saw it from early on in this conference. the i c. c was clear, it's mandate does apply here. so why then haven't we seen a public statement as we did so early on when it came to the conflict in ukraine as well? and when you talk about the i see,

there is a kind of yeah, but we could take many, many years for any kind of ruling to be made the i c c. but it also doesn't have a police force, so it comp, force member countries, the signatories to the i c c to hand over one seats of individuals that will. so israel is not a policy to the room statute does not recognize the authority of the i. c, c. so why is it doing this? when it's all about legal accountability, it's all about reminding the international community of the why the context of the conflict is going on and the comp time. and now both israel and her must have been accused of violating international humanitarian law with their attacks on civilians . israel has dropped thousands of bonds on crowded residential areas of gauze flattening entire neighborhoods. and these indiscriminate attacks on civilians are in violation of article 25 of the hate conventions. a series of international treaties, legal experts say the intentional targeting a civilians by both from us. and israel also constitutes a war crime. they is really military has imposed a total siege on god. some pales

so it comp force member, confused to a signatories to the i. c. c. to hand over one seats, individuals that will so israel is not a policy to the room statute does not recognize the will starts the of the i c c. so why is it doing this one? it's all about legal accountability. it's all about reminding the international community of the white, a context of the conflict that's going on the comp time the we'll take a look at some other news now and amount suspected of caring out to mass shootings in the us state of maine is still at large at least 18 people were killed and 13 others injured in the city of lewiston, police have urged people to stay indoors as they undertake a door to door search. it's on 100 and reports. after one of the worst mass shootings in us history, main police have launched a man hunt for a gunman. on the run. the fbi i in police are searching for the man who open fire inside a bar and a bowling alley that was hosting a use night in the town of lewiston. police say the man they're looking for 40 year old robert card is armed and d

the signatories to the i c. c to hand over one seeds of individuals that will so israel is not a policy to the room statute does not recognize the will start c of the i c c. so why is it during this, when it's all about legal accountability, it's all about reminding the international community of the why the context of the conflict is going on and the comp time. and so it sounds, america know what your lands have been gathering in the sizes and the capital santiago to raise money for palestinians under siege in gaza. our latin america editor lucy, and human has more. and what do you see here is part of the largest palestinian community outside of the middle east? this is julie and here there are thousands of people gathered people with and without the palestinian roots detailed there's some a garrity with the people of god particularly. and they occupied westbank, they are also calling for independence for to cease fire and peace in that part of the world's finest comp, be justified for any and will by anyone. but

government must be careful noting, so to commit for crimes, because not only could it be prosecuted to the i, c, c, it doesn't accept the i c. c, regret to be so it's not, it can claim not to be bound, but he does good to go to comply with international law. and if he does it by, bombing must be lost without military justification. then its members is the people of the whole cabinet. mister nathan, yahoo and she's minister is, could be prosecuted in years to come in. ready his country this week could be international going to states and will undoubtedly a lady prosecute fitness against them is a visit. and so. ready that something may have to bury my jeffrey robinson. we appreciate your analysis and expertise. does jeffrey robinson, the former united nations war crimes judge? thank you. now is that uncanny or is a residence at the outset, the refugee camp on the coast line of god. so he says, people in gauze and don't know why, what's the latest on pushing for it into israel bombardment center. but it's a hold of both. what's the, what's the way people we ought to do my big i want the, i'm the bod

the i c. c. that means it would have to observe an arrest warrants for russian president vladimir putin on suspicion of war crimes or media as parliament ratified the wrong statute on tuesday. that brings the country under the jurisdiction of the i. c. c. in the hague. the plan had been strongly opposed by russia. armenia is formal ally, but ties have become strained to sense as a by john for control of the car back region. you're shot of all of a is standing by for us and must go 1st. let's go to bernard smith, who's live in your van. you are where this is all happening. vernon, this is no coincidence. connect the dots for us of what's been happening, encounter back, and this moved by the army and government of the civil. we all mean and government will say that there is a major connection and i am fox signed, the government signed the room. stop you back in 1998 more than 20 years ago. but it's only just now past it is a little. it's an indication on one side of russia's waning influence and no

what you spend for your mandate, when you look at your website, it says that the i, c i. c stands for promoting people's white and dignity they've been operating in the occupied territories since 1967 that they visited. detainees were united family support, livelihood projects, help improve access to expensive services, water and electricity. now, when it comes to the situation and gaza, these when it on me is of making references for preparation for the ground invasion into gaza. is it likely to further complicate your mission and gaza? well, today as we speak, we have more than a 100 colleagues who are in the guns of the trip. um, we also have been there for it since the 196 is continuously as you said, we are prepared to display and we intend to stay by the side of the people who are affected so that we can fulfill mandate our partners and colleagues, direct crescent society they also present them together, still doing a phenomenal work. of course, they have received warning messages to evacuate, but we've been very clear. hospitals all protected and the international hu

the i c, c. but it also doesn't have a police force, so it comp, force member countries, the signatories to the i c c to hand over one seats of individuals that will. so israel is not a policy to the room statute does not recognize the will start c of the i c c. so why is it doing this? when it's all about legal accountability? it's all about reminding the international community of the why, the context of the conflict that's going on and the comp time the still ahead and i'll just say that we're going to have more than why sedans, army size is not going to hold seized by adults with the bottom, electric rapids, the boat forces, the hello good to see you for the 1st time, a hurricane in the eastern pacific native land fall in mexico. as a category 5 storm, know this happened around acapulco, its injected a lot of moisture into the atmosphere, so still a legacy of showers left behind in acapulco today on thursday. now want to show you central america because it looks like something else is trying t

the i c c right application is the latest and a long series of moons asserting our videos, independence, and trying to escape the russian orbit if you will. and so what sorts of reprisals i showed the media expect as well to be quite honest looking at this more objectively, i do not yet see a genuine crisis or confrontation between art, media and russia. first of all, much of the angry rhetoric is limited to everyone except russian, president, putin, and his voice is the one that counts 8 states and moscow. secondly, and more importantly, the angry words are just that angry words. we do not yet see one action or one decision by moscow, suggesting a crisis with armenia. why do you think that is, why isn't god russia has, has had this period of action as you put it didn't into intervene in the go to cut her back. it appears not to be a reacting to a mean. you a going it. so why i'm tempted to say is because russia respect strength, not weakness, but to be quite honest, it's a different reason rusher remains over. well, why it failed invasion of ukraine and the weakness of the russian mili

moore's university, as well as a member of the legal team representing jobs have victims before the i, c c. i gentlemen, cossack roles and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate because i can go to you 1st in washington, we know that the israeli prime minister is been talking with joe biden, joe biden, to address the nation, saying that the united states stands with his really was and fighting in panic about that. and then, you know, he's made it very clear that there's going to be no negotiations and that come off as an organization and is individuals must be destroyed. what is that about how well, how is this get to a resolution to the conflict? because none of that does that go ahead? well, that's what i the question. i mean there's no question. negotiations are going to be coming up at some point eventually, if for no other reason, none of the costing or fires banners to get a get upgrade to the of israel is the prisoners out in the gaza strip, including senior officer is on the id asked. so there's no question that that he goes to, asians will be co

i think quite often the i c c is, is, is criticized for making these old statements, which were the same with previous to prosecutors of their i say say, i'm carrying con, came in with a very different approach, a very methodical approach to his investigations. and so i think there was a lot of pressure on him too to make a statement as far as the russian aggression against ukraine was concerned. but obviously he has taken a 2 measured approach as far as this particular situation is concerned. and one of the, one of the difficulties we have is that a lot of the immediate response was i was criticizing one side of this particular situation. namely, i must, i'm, and nobody can, can, is r o or make a statement to support what they've done. and that, that has to be condemned, of course. but what we're seeing now in gauze a we will not seeing that the, the immediate response from, from united states, from united kingdom. and from the a you were starting to see that in a triplicate but many saying that it really is. it's too little too late. the state of condemnation should have been immediate

accounts, but if you're not going to challenge yourself to change its policies to you and not the i. c, c to sanctions with how you sell your weapons, that you are leaving only one outlet for change. i'm worth what they, rami cory, your thoughts about what daniel and stuff a banquet to you have said. what is your reaction to this evolving situation? and what do you think and let us, let us of his points today. but i totally agree with that stuff. i'm down, you know, as usual, i had one more dimension on the same virginia, boston. and the united states is going back and forth to the players and watching the events from here for the last couple of years has clarified certain issues that i think are really important. and the, the, the, the span of time to the palestinians. i've suffered in the way that most of i'm done, you know, as far as the 5070 years since 1948, but it really goes back further about and what happened was when the british started in 1915, the colonial process of, of stealing boston allowed them giving up to the zionist movement, which was a very strong to make up the pain

and if i mean he wants to bring cases against us by john in the i c. c. no, to be over. the 2020 was, is all media that it needs to have signed up. and rectified the icpc in the room, such as wasting, covering house, thousands of people have now less kind of back to return back to our media. what do we know about thinking? i mean, you the molly, but i mean, i can talk about what's happened to the rest of the asked me. medians is estimate, there's only about between 50 and a 1000 anywhere between that number less. a nicole and i'm kind of back according to the un. uh, most of them moving a 100000 on out here, you know, many of the governments providing with them with a small monthly allowance for the next 6 months research into open bank accounts. those are the last in the goal, no kind of backing car box. i thought to be perhaps some of the leadership of what was that? so be glad states they have been talking to the as ours is not know whether they'll be allowed to leave or whether they faced a rest because a lot really ask us about john from minutes as cold. the politic

so if you're not going to challenge as well, to change its policies to you and not the i c c to sanctions with how you sell your weapons, that you are leaving only one outlet for change. i'm worth what they rami corey, your thoughts about what daniel and stuff about go to you have said, what is your reaction to this evolving situation and what do you think and let us, let us to this points today. but i totally agree with that stuff. i'm down, you know, as usual, i'm fine with that one more dimension. i'm but what i'm saying virginia boston in the united states is going back and forth to the players watching the events from here for the last couple of years as clarified certain issues that i think are really important. and this is a lot the span of time to the palestinians. i've suffered in the way that most of i'm done, you know, described as the 5070 years since since 1948. but it really goes back further about what happened was the british started in 1915. the color of the process of, of stealing thorsten here giving up to the zionist movement, which was a very long to make a payment th

and this is not only a ticket well for i, c r c team or humanitarian actors, aid workers. first responders have teams, health stuffs and hospitals do require and do need the proper security guarantees in order to release the population. well, you mentioned the security guarantees. have any people from your organization suffered from as a result of the as rarely attached on dogs or have they been injured? so as we're speaking, things are developing a uh, as we're running, we have staff that are a at the moment and accounted support. we hope that we have further information about their actual situation, but to want to uh, we want to to, to clarify that the i c r c team right now. most of our team is located at the south. as we were instructed like the rest of the populations and organizations that would both that were present and located in northern area, she were instructed by the so i knew forties to relocate towards the south. so i would know patients are now based of the south. we have a temporary office just there at the moment, uh, all of our teams on the ground there

but if you're not going to challenge yourself to change its policies to you and not the i c c to sanctions with how you sell your weapons, that you are leaving only one outlet for change. i'm worth what they rami corey, your thoughts about what daniel and stuff about go to you have said, what is your reaction to this evolving situation and what do you think and let us, let us of his points today. but i totally agree with that stuff. i'm down, you know, as usual, i'm fine with that one more dimension. i'm what i'm saying virginia boston in the united states is going back and forth to the players watching the events from here for the last couple of years as clarified certain issues that i think are really important. and this is a lot the span of time to the palestinians. i've suffered in the way that most of i'm done, you know, described as the 5070 years since since 1948. but it really goes back further about what happened was when the british started in 1915, the colonial process of, of stealing boston, the allowed them giving up to the zionist movement, which was a very small one to make

the criticisms that we can legitimately make of the i c c is that it has great difficulty in executing this will sort of in data. um, if you end up really wondering about the advocacy of the, the rules of all because people just seem to ignore them and not necessarily held to account with us. right. and i think what we have seen, certainly, even before this particular task is a complete vacuum of accountability. and now whether we're looking at the situation in ukraine, whether we look at the in other countries in syria. yeah. i mean, congress complex sense that was saying where no effective accountability is, is effectively being pursued. and that is a real problem. i interesting and very important variables of this uh, type of company, appreciate time. thanks lucky. you know, the us extra estate has met these holiday chrome principal, haven't been solomon in riyadh for most folks, because of all entity blinking visited the kingdom on saturday before heading to be not to dinner. a beverage in abu dhabi, he met the president, shake mohammed been side on the hunt. they discussed the nee

when you look at your website, it says that the i, c r. c stands for promoting people's white and dignity they've been operating in the occupied territories since 1967 that they visited, detainees were united, family support, livelihood projects help improve access to expensive services. water and electricity. now, when it comes to the situation and gaza, these when it on me is of making references for preparation for the ground invasion into gaza. is it likely to further complicate your mission and gaza? well, today as we speak, we have more than a 100 colleagues who are in the guns this trip and we also have been there for it since the 1960 is continuously as you said, we are prepared to display and we intend to stay by the side of the people who are affected so that we can fulfill mandate our partners and colleagues, the red crescent society, they also present them together, still doing a phenomenal work. of course, they have received warning messages to evacuate, but we've been very clear. hospitals all protected and the international hu

accounts, but if you're not going to challenge yourself to change its policies to you and not the i c c to sanctions with how you sell your weapons, that you are leaving only one outlet for change. i'm worth what they, rami cory, your thoughts about what daniel and stuff a banquet to you have said, what is your reaction to this evolving situation and what do you think and let us, let us of his points today. but i totally agree with that stuff. i'm down, you know, as usual, i had one more dimension. i'm the same virginia, boston and the united states is going back and forth to the place watching the events from here for the last couple of years has clarified certain issues that i think are really important. and they let the span of time to the palestinians. i've suffered in the way that most of i'm done, you know, as far as the 5070 years since 1948, but it really goes back further about and what happened was when the british started in 1915, the colonial process of, of stealing boston allowed them giving up to the zionist movement, which was a very long to make a pain that just show up

american western british and other support for israel and anything it wants to do from walking the i c c, investigation that in the change that has to happen is the, the invisibility and powerlessness mobility and the synergy suffering of sending people since 1915 of the hands of british supported on the later american support. as i have colonialism that has to change into a situational kind of go through a piece wherever the people of israel and the state of israel, the palestinians of their people that surround the place all with equal rights. we've made this offer that i don't have repeatedly mega. so for the 1st thing is assigned back to a how much time agreed to go inside. when he entered into negotiations, that's the actions due to ality and visibility is that that was the newsletter. and if anybody ask you this, because you talked about this a little while ago, the question of normalization. how is this going to play out originally? in the next few weeks, of course, because we have had some arab countries that of establish relations with israel, the u. e. for example, the biggest

the i. c. c has jurisdiction in the occupied palestinian territories and numerous cases including the killing of al jazeera jonas to read. i would actually have been filed in his own. you comments so far, the icpc prosecute as sad, the possible war crimes committed by how most can be investigated the road statute . so yeah, we have jurisdiction on the territory of a state policy. and we have jurisdiction in relation to conduct committed by nationals of state policies. meanwhile, the civilian del sol increases by today and victim to a possible war. crimes don't have the luxury of waiting for justice step size, and l g 0. they, a toby cabman is an international human rights lawyer. he joins us here in the studio and the good to have you with us. and actually, as with, with the getting this interview. tubby, i'm getting woods that the desk tall. let me just bring this to view as the death toll has risen now to 80, and the strikes that occurred in the south of gauze. 80 people killed in those strikes

pops of russia is waning influence in this region, and russia is against media signing up to the i c. c. but all media can say that russia failed to come to its assistance in protecting me, asking to call meetings in the going no kind of back when i was about john long as lightning strike 3. take that 10 or 3 back on september 19th. so i mean, you're looking to make friends elsewhere in the world and your and the us, but i mean, it says it would never and they would never arrest about him if there's any way, should he come here to consider ahead of faith and that will uh, will be protected by diplomatic immunity. this is more about media wanting to bring paces again as a by john and the international criminal court on media is interested in bringing cases related to the 2020 war over that tire 3 needs to sign up for the road, stuff for you to be able to bring those cakes and i was just there. yeah. your, your shop of all of us in moscow for us, your, your how is most go reacting to this as well. the criminal considers all mean is ross if occasional the roadside to the i see, see an inco

the i. c. c has an active arrest warrant for russian president vladimir perkins. and police in thailand, arrest a 14 year old boy after a shooting at a shopping mall in bangkok. at least 2 people, confirmed the american. we have welcome to the program. in the us, the house of representatives has voted to remove republican spigot. kevin mccarthy, off the little mike, is from his own potty tent against the office of speaker of the house of the united states. house of representatives is here by declared vacant to the coffee and get the ultra conservative wing of his republican party at the weekend when he worked with democrats to pass a stop get funding measured to of it, a government shut down the hot right lawmakers were laid to buy mccarthy's main rival met gates, it launched the bead to asked him right then let's cross that data police. janelle, do my law on the in washington dc. janelle kevin mccarthy at the foot. very hard to get elected. a speaker. can he? and will he take up the fight to try and get his job back? now? that is a very good question, anthony. an

because what digging in unprecedented don't i c c for the, in just over 3 weeks on the go, some of the 60 degree degree in west field with his wife and 8 children. this is the highest number of un enroll the kiddos in the config. in such a short time with this rice guns been expanding and how mos militants deeply entrenched. for 8 well goes, there's no relief insight. no agreement inside of the un security council either which met on monday evening to discuss the war and casualties among civilians and un stuff. the lives of un personnel must be protected. the lives of humanitarian workers must be protected. the lives of gentleness must be protected. the lives of all civilians, innocent civilians is really and palestinians, men and women, children and elderly, must be protected. there is no hierarchy when it comes to protecting civilian lives . a civilian is a civilian, is a civilian. we have set time and time again. i repeat. there is no military solution to this company that we are to yet the most today. that is a peaceful one. prove us wrong. just fact. my grandparents and the grandp

because what digging in unprecedented don't i c c for the, in just over the lease the why was a go some of the really in westfield with his wife and 8 children. this is the highest number of you and the kids in the config. in such a short time, but this strikes guns been expanding, and how mox militants deeply entrenched. for 8 well goes, there's no relief insight. no agreement inside of the un security council, the the which met on monday evening to discuss the war and casualties among civilians and you and stuff. the lives of un personnel must be protected. the lives of humanitarian workers must be protected. the lives of gentleness must be protected the lives of all civilians. innocent civilians is really and palestinians. men and women, children and elderly, must be protected. there is no hierarchy when it comes to protecting civilian lives . a civilian is a civilian, is a civilian. we have set time and time again. i repeat, there is no military solution to this complex. we are yet to demonstrate that is a peaceful one. prove us wrong. just back to my grandparents and the grandparen