i mean what's. the exciting thing is i can go out regularly. go experience i just feel like a great tool for me an experience wilderness and nature. and it's purest form. the bottom line is it makes me feel really good at the end of the day and i bring that energy back to my house back to my town and it's you know i want to get the most out of this life and so far the snowboarding provided a great. great moments for me is it possible to to make what you do a real i mean a real competitor. did you think this is possible or you should stay as it is i mean it's so i think a hiking thing well there is a free ride world tour there was an event one or two years in. in sochi. it's a great tour from a personal level. not. that doesn't drive me i'm not trying to beat the next guy down the mountain or what have you so. my wildest dreams i can imagine to be an olympic sport but when i started snowboarding in eighty five if you told me snowboarding would have been in the olympics i would have said you're crazy s

i mean, i think at one point mrs. irvin studied ga and sort of, you know, adopted the garb of the ghanaian women and that sort of thing. so i mean it was a very expanding experience. so then coming back--i mean, she--again, she just--it just taught them a lot of things about america that they wouldn't have seen--i mean, perspectives--and for a long time she set out to educate people about africa. c-span: before this program's over i've got to ask you about five movies a day? >> guest: it can be done and i have done it. i am a movie addict, yes. c-span: five in one day? >> guest: yes. it--i have a friend who was there with me so i have a witness. c-span: why movies? >> guest: why movies? because i'm addicted to narrative. i mean, before this i wrote, you know, two books of fiction and i'm back into fiction and, you know, i just have to have a narrative hit. you know, i have to see about characters and plot and that sort of thing and it's just entrancing. c-span: what do you see in the movies the way black people are po

yeah i mean i mean i i think you know as we move forward i mean i you know i lived in russia for a number of years and during the cold war period i think the majority of european people for the wrong reasons feared russia and russians possibly feared the people of europe but now i look we do have these open borders i think we have a greater unity and i think that when we look at the global picture i think that other nations other states other global states are actually quite envious of our potential unity and so i think the actual chance of any future war in europe is greatly reduced and could leverage if there are going to keep pressing this point here i mean did in the european union that people sign up for it when they joined it because it's turning out to be a different project now. what i'm saying is that i mean there's and i was probably at the one to say europe as a father a problem but the problem is that there are as many for the road probably as many for mothers as for there are countries in the world that's where our quality so far as we have to define our model for them is a w

i mean india india and that's. ok now. my last question to you for a you've introduced a film in russia i hope i hope it is successful and i hope you will you will have to come again to new films but. what's your impression what do you think how important is the russian market for american filmmakers today i think it's getting more important every day and i think it's a growing community i think the russian people are starting to see more and more movies and i think. it's now days america's not enough i think you have to be internationally accepted you know and in russia you know a huge market and you know the opinion matters it's one of the big obviously big you know important countries and so you know you know for me obviously it's personal because the big you know big homecoming you know it's some still very russian inside and so it's you know means a lot to me but i think it is i think the market grows every year and you know and business wise it's very important do you feel is the first home. strangely i do. this is it

no i'm talking about last week why are these bankers not doing purple i have no idea i mean i guess we have an absolute consensus here and i think these guys should be in jail i mean it's pretty clear that if you give material support to terrorist organizations it's illegal in any form actually a terrorist organization is a philanthropic arm or a legitimate arm and then a not legitimate the terrorist arm if you give to the legitimate arm and i'm using that loosely because it frees up resources for the other bacteria supporters very broad why they're not doing a perp walk i don't know i wouldn't bail them out and i wouldn't give people forgiveness on criminal law just because they're their banks as you call it is all yours and all people went to jail nobody went to jail and i know that reagan prosecuted a thousand people six hundred went to jail it's like what happened to republicans george bush would not prosecute anybody when this thing crashed and it was obvious like it was what i think you know i think timing wise he was pretty much out the door and they were certainly should min

yeah no i mean i pull the agreement band i think. i think it's it's a catch twenty two for the policymakers to some degree but that's why they're focusing on high tech i mean that's the one area where they can produce products where they can compete internationally but things like cars or you know basic things like containers steel products they can compete against the chinese for example because the labor cost is interesting i mean when i was growing up you know very small child i can remember my parents and their friends were joke about all this was made in japan it's junk ok and then about fifteen years later always made in china it must be just junk and now we don't say that about china anymore and we certainly don't say that about japan russia doesn't make a lot of things that people want but it exports i mean is high tech a possibility and real possibility skeptical in contrast to ben i think i don't think governments innovate technology particularly well they can only can be an incubator i think there's an argument to incubate

to eat i mean. i know that i'm. really not. the old story so. it's. worse for the little things. like how six of them. and. what. to do never seen anything like this until the. sun news i mean martin this is breaking at the set so this weekend was international holocaust remembrance day it's marked a cure on the anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz around the world politicians religious leaders and others mark the occasion remembering the millions of sense look to us that occurred during world war two or nazi germany in the axis powers targeted several groups of people for extermination gypsies jews slavs the disabled and homosexuals were all labelled as undesirables they remember and was not without a taste of controversy that or rather poor taste former italian prime minister silvio berlusconi probably said that wrong has taken a good bit of heat for his praise of former italian dictator benito mussolini suggest may quote done good despite a telling anti jewish laws and he defended mussolini's decision to ally with hitler he did over clarify and say that he condemned dict

three bucks a month so food i should try it because you know how fabulous i had lunch i got so many i mean. i believe that i'm still really messed up. in the old story so personally. it's. the worst for the least a little white house or for the. radio guy and four minutes from the. what we're about to give you never seen anything like this until. aloha welcome to break in this that i'm your host abby martin let's talk about the west african nation of mali and i anticipate we'll be hearing a lot more about in the coming weeks over the last few days french troops have been deployed to the country to counter girl rebel forces and aid their army to reclaim areas occupied by militant groups so why should we care about this well because back in december the state department and treasury announced that two extremist groups existed in mali the movement for unity and jihad in west africa and officially labeled them as terrorist groups mali has been and remains an area where the u.s. routinely carries out unmanned drone operations and this past monday defense secretary leon panetta announced that qu

i mean, i'm telling you. even the communities who came out to vote, i think, were shocked by their own numbers and by their own power. i mean, when you look at the cuban community in florida, a community that has historically voted super conservative and suddenly see an entirely new generation voting, and you see those numbers that they put up for obama. it was extraordinary. and i think that a lot of folks have very poor sense of what's happening in this country on the ground. i mean, they're kind of all the way up here, whether it's age, class, institutional divisions. and they don't really have a real kind of panoramic or even a deep view of the real sort of granular shifts that have occurred in this country, that have been occurring. >> if you took that grand narrative and reduced it to a very short story, what is it? what's the plot? >> i think the plot is that there is an enormous gap between the way the country presents itself and imagines itself and projects itself and the reality of this country. whet

these fights go far enough or is it crucial and your eyes to fight the entire system at its core i mean is there any way we can reform the system or do we need a straight up revolution. in the end result we need. a whole new system. we need a system and how i explain it to people is that we need to we need a system where the people democratically controlled the wealth that they create with their labor. you can call that communism socialism you could call it an hour close socialism you call it i don't care but we need something where the people have more democratic control have a do have control of the world over the wealth that they create now the question is a lot of people would agree with i thing. most of the world would agree with that and you know when people watch this on you tube is going to be a whole bunch of people disagreeing with it that's fine but most of the world will agree with that now that the thing that a lot of people disagree on is how we would get there i would say that and that's where the reform struggles come in that. in order to change the system you need a rev

i love, uh -- god, i mean, i love really, really good, strong -- i mean, i love gary oldman.s and gentlemen, gary oldman! [ cheers and applause ] this is amazing. all right. if you do what i do, this is a huge honor. so thank you for coming out here. the honor's all mine. no, come on, man. come on. i mean, this is like -- 'cause, unlike nicole, you've actually had the burden of being on this show before, with you-know-who hosting, a couple times. uh, i have no recollection of that. [ laughter ] you don't? i've never been on this show before. but, see, my research says you were here for "tinker tailor" and "dark knight rises." oh! look! i saw this picture down in the hallway, which apparently nicole stole. [ laughter ] i'm quick. oldman: no. this is, um -- that is -- you know, that's an impersonator. a gary oldman impersonator. this is an industry for people. i've never been in the state of california until tonight. wow. that's, uh -- it sure looks like you. but, okay, i'll tell you what. i mean, let's keep this daisy chain of greatness going. is there somebody kind of great t

i mean. the town i know you guys i've seen the same thing really messed up. and they're all over it's all over so little balls are a little more secure we're going to. buy the house of a. radio guy and claudio minutes from a click cause they all want to watch close to go because you've never seen anything like this i'm told. i'm happy martin this is breaking the set so in light of the recent epidemic of rape going on in india and the absolute disregard for women from the police force there the people of india decided to take a stand recently over six hundred guitarist in darjeeling gathered together to play john lennon's imagine a memorial tribute to the twenty three year old gang rape victim the concept behind this was to imagine in india where women didn't have to live in fear or be subject to ridicule for something that they're the victim of this is just another gesture to go along with a countrywide protest calling for better safety and legal protections for women look we all know that playing guitar won't prevent rape but the point of this is that this i

government he's still just hilarious i mean there is a loving life. and i heard you took a helicopter ride around the property i mean that's so awesome let's talk about the new site ok yes is it the same concept as megaupload is it just a storage site yeah essentially a mega upload was one of the most popular websites in the world for pretty much it's the whole existence and you know he said millions and millions and millions of people used to log on you upload files you got a link you sent to someone that person downloaded a file off some really easy way to send a really large files u.s. government didn't really like it though they said well people can take large files that they don't own and send it to other people who don't own them and then they can illegally download it kim dot com and a lot of other people that will tell you that it was used very very very legitimately by a very very large group of people but mega upload is gone the f.b.i. a sea state it's been over a year now with a site like we saw that screenshot is just sitting there on avail

we saw you know five hundred thousand children died as a result of our sanction i mean and what it what ended up happening we went to war right so i think the track record is pretty poor and it's pretty ominous that we're starting to see these humanitarian ramifications from the sanctions absolutely and i'm only about forty five seconds left but i want to ask you about argo you know it's getting all this hype in the entertainment industry and really it do you think that it's depicting the kind of fosters this and iranian sentiment and kind of aides to this whole perception of iran at all you know i saw ago and i liked it i thought was a good movie i like that it put the situation into context it showed that there was a coup d'etat in one hundred fifty three iran had a democratically elected prime minister he was toppled and so a lot of what we're seeing today is this continued hostility that has emerged from that i am concerned by the way that people may perceive the movie who don't necessarily understand that context and think this is just the way you go on is it's. supposed to be a ho

three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how fabulous i had luck i got so many i mean i have my hands down i believe that i'm still really messed up. and we're all original actually apologized to. the worse for delaying the white house or for the. radio guy four minutes from a clue. what's going on what we're about to develop through anything like this until the. previous guys have all come to break in the set i'm abby martin so president obama limos loves new billing just in time for this weekend's inaugural festivities license plates obama's car will be adorned with new license plates d.c. license plates on the front back of his bride in case you didn't know those plates include the phrase taxation without representation because you see residents of this district do not have voting representatives in the house or the senate here's a white house spokesperson keep mayle had to say about it he said attaching these plates to the presidential vehicles demonstrates the president's commitment to the principle for a presentation for the people of the district of columbia and

i mean there are go on. and politicians there and government officials they love criminal defamation because they can go after anyone who criticizes them and ruin their career just just like that regardless of facts it's a great catch all charges and it if you embarrass someone especially point out that they are trying to ban alcohol and then using taxpayer dollars to really these a lavish extravagant meals i mean it's a perfect. charges will you defame me publicly we're going to throw you in this prison absolutely insane amber i'm so happy. be that you're working with this organization to really bring or this website rather to bring this story to light. and yet these dictators are very scared they don't they want to suppress truths that could topple the regime what's the power structure like in relation to the government and why would the king even help in this case. well we are we're just hoping that he'll do the right thing because the king has been promising reforms in the country especially when it come

i mean look at it. it's like a ways of alcohol prohibition right the principle beneficiary of prohibition are the organized crime are the criminals the gangsters mexico colombia west africa afghanistan you name it right also we have a prison industrial complex in america which is growing dramatically in power and money and now employs hundreds of thousands if not millions of people many of whom are simply trying to defend their jobs for the pharmaceutical companies it's trying to defend their quote unquote good drugs against the other quote unquote bad drugs in a day and age when more people are dying of pharmaceutical drugs oftentimes in the other drugs and often times where those drugs are oftentimes more dangerous than the drugs are illegal so i think your hypothesis is right on spot ok kevin go ahead well i think we should have let's try and talk about this rationally rather than with emotions and shouting matches the issue is. actually a right how are you going to have it will be there after drugs

i mean like. the things you're drawing since i didn't draw it will know maybe write the music and i didn't write to me over this and then people said oh well well maybe if you come up with a story said no i didn't come up with the story so will you do said nothing to this letter i mean is walt is that true he does i mean he had a lot of artists and a lot of people that really helped him but what was amazing about him and he was an innovator you know he never you know when he created mickey mouse it was hugely successful but did he draw it he did you know the original was a very regional draw the first original the very first one but he just looked pretty clumsy i mean the first well it did look clumsy may look clumsy now but back then it was it was like it was you know groundbreaking and i think what was amazing about him is that he didn't just keep going doing mickey mouse's then he did a musical cartoon then he did a color cartoon and then he did a feature and that's one of the most amazing thin

>> i mean, i love charming people. really fascinated by them because i think it's a skill that i don't have, like i don't really know. i feel very awkward at making conversation with people and i envy people who can just stroll into a room and have anecdotes and tell jokes and get the punch line in the right place, which i can never do, and make people feel at ease and make people like them. i mean, that's a nice skill to have. but i wrote this song, "charmer," about a friend of mine who was charming in a nice way, but as i started to think about the idea of charm and the charming people i've known, i realized that sometimes there's a darker side to it and maybe that side is people who use charm to manipulate you. and i think sometimes it's also a cover-up for people who are really dependent on the approval of others. you know, there's a kind of sadness underneath. so, you know, i started to think about this and it all became like very fascinating to me. tavis: i don't want to overstep here. would you call this a conce

government and gauging in gomer stations social media won't but i don't mean those people i mean the online personas that oddly enough are unrelenting in their patriotic vitriol and troll for literally hours trying to debunk legitimate questions or any opposition to the establishment sometimes it seems like these people might even be getting paid to do it i mean how else could they expel that insane amount of time and energy on these common threads trying to argue how wrong you are while this might be old news to some but last year was confirmed that the us military has been manipulating social media by using fake identities to influence conversations and spread pro-american propaganda it's called online persona management services and under the cent com contract allows the creation of up to ten sockpuppet accounts for every u.s. serviceman or woman working on the program stipulations are that every fake persona must have a convincing background history and supporting friend networks so to remain undetected from even the most sophisticated adversaries. according to guardian the proje

to eat i mean. i know that i'm still the same thing really messed up. in the old story so personally apologize if that. worst you were the only thing going to the white house or for the. radio guy and for the tailor minestrone. what clothes were about to do because you've never seen anything like this i'm told. you know it's friday before you turn to fun and games keep watching there's a few things that you should know today president obama's announcement that u.s. troops in afghanistan will suma quote support role starting this spring and eventual pullout of all american forces by the end of twenty fourteen. you know what they say it sounds like a lie and looks like a lie then probably is a lie a joint press conference with afghan president hamid karzai obama said this. song for afghanistan work afghan spine security peace prosperity and dignity and in pursuit of that future afghanistan will have a long term partner in the united states of america long term partner in need because the war is far from over see this invasion was never about a victory at

of course they i mean when the media sensationalizes one murder it of course you lose sight and the fact that this is happening every day and a lot of poor communities and i can't help but notice that this issue that you just brought up really fascinates seemingly going unaddressed across all politicians and the media alike i mean you would think that the democrat politicians would be like you know the murder rates go down when democrats are in office and the policies obviously correlate together i mean but at the same time it seems like both parties the two party system perpetuate this mass any quality i mean capitalism in general in its current form is perpetuating is an equality that that in turn causes this violence what do you say that both parties are kind of at fault and the underlying root cause of the inequality of our system will be actually. remove the parties number no what i would say is this even when democrats are in power united states has more on equality and more growth. than the wealth or stage the social democracies a western europe so i'm not at all saying the democr

to this product that you actually put put something into it i mean did you work. this is not just a name or face on the box i was a part of it from from ground up i mean me and jimmy were part of every screw and everything that had to do with this and you know the nuts and bolts really. because we live and we live in a recording studio. recording studio for twenty years and you know twenty five years forty five years i haven't any welding no. i'm doing those welding by the way you know bob. i think you should agree with me i mean we're pretty much the same generation that when we put in. an old lp player the sound is better than what we get now out of the hype. and you're telling me that the sound was created in lousy equipment i think who ever was always there i mean if you're talking about a horrible no is being played back on. the air but. even played with yeah but you can make great sounding air but it's a great selling what happened was when you got when you have the revolution of the portable music with the i pod c c sony in the old days with the with the wal

well there's no question about that but i'd have to say it's just the latest sign of that i mean. i think they still want to close it but when you say are they planning to close it suggests that they have a plan as in some series of steps in mind that would lead them to get to that end result and at the moment it doesn't appear that they have any plan in fact whenever congress keeps proposing things that would prevent the closure of guantanamo the president grumbles about them and signs on the dotted line so i would say this is just another indication that the obama administration has for all intents and purposes given up on their efforts to close guantanamo right i mean it definitely seems like that's what it's hinting at at least but you know even before news of the office that's working to close guantanamo bay before there was news of the shutting down there wasn't a clear sign that the base was shutting down but what kinds of restrictions that congress put in place to block detainees from being transferred out of the base well for several years now i think back to basically the

well i mean this election means very little to palestinian life i mean nothing. it doesn't change anything on the ground for palestinians. you know the checkpoints are still going to be there the land confiscation is still going to continue the incessant colonization will continue unabated. you know the only difference. in the various political parties in israel is how they go about eradicating palestinian society that's really it's just in the details but otherwise they are all ideologically a lie in that in their desire to minimize palestinian presence or radek it if they can get away with it robert in jerusalem would you like to react to that. i think it's very unfortunate to hear the use of a word like eradicate a palestinian society because this is so divorced from what i think most people in israel think about. in relation to palestinians i don't think that this is is a serious thought except in the most fanatical the marginal circles which have not done very well in this election i think that what. what is striking to me when i look for instance at the pal

didn't see what other information they were able to taint using the sting ray technology warm and i mean that's what i have to ask you there is a lot of things that we simply do not know about this device so why is the government and the l.a.p.d. and other law enforcement officials why are they being so secretive about this device. right was we mentioned earlier many times these surveillance devices that are on the cutting edge of technology are built in order to take on terrorism but as we see police departments around the country a lot of times surveillance technology is used well there's a very gray line on whether it's used on criminals and whether that is going to invade the privacy of civilians who are not committing the law in this case there is a gray area and simply said there aren't a lot of laws to address this sort of surveillance and this sort of what some perceive as an invasion of privacy rights and ramona as you mentioned a little bit earlier is not only the people that they are targeting for these drug and other robbery crimes it's also the people that are in the general

i mean i still lose my temper. and you're this close, charlie, i'm telling you, you are this close, you know what i mean. i will mop the floor with you. >> rose: that will make this one of the more interesting interviews i've ever done right there. so what is it, you think, that you brought? you created this show which followed a previous show where you had sort of, in the eyes of many, redefined comediment because it couldn't be what john was doing. >> right. >> rose: it had to be something else. >> yeah. >> rose: you didn't want to have his guests on your show. >> well, we couldn't. we were told, you can't do this, you can't have the same guests. you can't have an orchestra and on and on and on. but i had very little to do with that. the people that, on the staff, they were resourceful enough and figured out ways. you know they kind of said good, that's not the show we want to do anyway. and i always felt like i was lucky enough to do somebody else's show. they built the show and i did it. and you know, we starte

that it's going to be ok there is no i mean and injure. and the one that will really will all the mothers that. their children and then these mother f. ing their they're really going crazy with this situation because if i create for several reasons and financial reason familial reason. many reason that make them implicitly to eventually right now and. this is that situation might never i can tell you that many people are also in the. they don't want to have it create because if the situation is secure we may be discouraged well all. right of course i mean the government never really tells the truth when when they're saying what's dangerous levels are of course it's always under played to prevent from happening well as i wanted to talk about the anti-nuclear movement i mean you just heard me talk about how the japanese government's pursuing nuclear technology in light of this and sanity i mean what what else needs to happen what kind of groups are involved in the movement right now and do they represent the majority of the japanese people wo

thirty three possible so food i should try it because you know how fabulous i had lunch i got so many i mean. i know that i'm still feeling really messed up. in the old story so personally i believe that's. the worst you're going through the white house or the. radio guy and four minutes from the. whereabouts of those you've never seen anything like this i'm still. going on guys i'm having martin and this is breaking to set there are many things we know about marilyn monroe one of the greatest icons of the twentieth century we're just learning for the first time fifty years after her death that she was heavily targeted by the f.b.i. man was subject to intense surveillance and scrutiny because of her close association of people with a left leaning ideologies but this is the period of the red scare a time in which the establishment was on a witch hunt against anyone they suspected might subscribe to anticapitalist beliefs and their mccarthyism will ruin their lives and destroy the careers of thousands of people in the country and marilyn monroe was perhaps one of them the government was very t

three bucks a month so food i should try it because you know how fabulous i had lunch i got so many i mean family and i know that i'm. really not so. we're all for it so personally apologize that's. the worst you are going through right out of the. radio guy and for a minute from. what we're about to give you never seen anything like this i'm told. oh ok i'm having martin this is breaking this has started the show today i want to highlight a story that's making waves in portland oregon take a look. i profile trial is set to begin today in downtown portland the trial of terror suspect mohamed mohamed jury selection begins in the trial of the man accused of trying to blow up the christmas tree lighting ceremony in portland in two thousand and ten authorities for the twenty one year old claim he was entrapped by the f.b.i. prosecutors say mohamed atta was predisposed to committing a terrorist act predisposed to committing a terrorist act for it by predisposed you mean subject to criminal entrapment by the f.b.i. then yes i absolutely agree but this case is just one in the list of many high pr

is even it's even more proof of that i mean on the one hand you have. i think during lieberman's party for example used to be the far right now you actually have people who are who are to the right of lieberman as if that was even possible and you know there are there are calls to remove palestinian citizens of israel and annex the west bank it read of me how can you say you're ok so let me just you know what i mean retention of battery because she's got a slightly less she's got a point why should the palestinians really care because it doesn't really make any difference the same policies but i would just say i would disagree with susan on the point that the election didn't mean very much it is the it didn't change anything fundamentally it's sending netanyahu back to the prime minister's office but it did instruct the government very firmly to pull back toward the center to a centrist israeli position that is interested in the two state solution so the peace camp is not dead it you know there's not much of a pulse there which is why i think susan goes

yeah i mean it's europe and it's all of their export markets i mean you know russia still still a big net net exporter and they need markets for their products all right we've run out of time gentlemen fascinating discussion i want to thank my guests here in the studio and thank our viewers for watching us here on the money so you next time and stay with r.t. . admission free accreditation free clothes for a judge is free to arrangements the free risk free studio time free. download free broadcast quality video for your media projects and a free media dog r t v dot com. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you don't know i'm tom harkin welcome to the big picture. we speak your language another day of. school music programs and documentaries in spanish matters to you breaking news a little tonnage of angles kiddies stories. you hear. detroit all teach spanish find out more visit. wealthy british style sign posts. on the telephone. ma

risk for actually finding a peaceful peaceful way out of that how dare we risk peace right jamal i mean we can't have that let's talk about the sanctions because i just read this article that talks about life saving drugs i mean people are dying they're not able to get this medication what is the goal of these sanctions and i know that you're advocating diplomacy i mean what are the other options here other than these crippling sanctions that we're seeing kill are killing people that well there is a deal to be had i mean iran has not made a move to build a nuclear weapon if we can actually leverage these sanctions if we can actually be prepared to give up some of these sanctions i do genuinely believe that it's in the best interests of both parties to find a deal now a right to enrichment that you're talking about yeah that would be a first step but they're you know it's in nobody's interest to go to war or to have nuclear proliferation however the sanctions you know it's supposed to be leverage it's supposed to be the u.s. puts pressure on iran and says if you agree to certain things w

i mean. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harvey welcome to the big picture. the worst you're going to save. the white house to the day a radio guy and pull out a bale of minestrone cause they all want to watch quote we're about to go good you've never seen anything like this i'm cold. les miserables is a newish american movie of the musical based on the historical french novel written by victor hugo published in eight hundred sixty two it's a thoughtful commentary on the politics and society of early eight hundred france detailing intense poverty but is it rife with economic messages for today will the story follow john bell john who spent one thousand years in jail for stealing a loaf of bread this guy there is arch nemesis he has to do hard labor to he cannot escape this path because he brea

i don't know i mean when you think about it. well the patriot act is is one i would say one of three things that we do we did after nine eleven and you know supposedly in response to it. and the you know the the provisions in it which which basically makes sneak and peek searches legal for any suspected terrorist or whatever. you know which essentially means the government could come into your house search your entire house your computer take all your data and never tell you and never have to bring it up in the court of law if they actually do prosecute you. i think that it's it's it's really it's disturbing and unsettling how much it's gone into the background that the patriot act has already been in existence for ten years it was signed again by obama. where he added on an extension to it so i mean as far as i can see there's no chance that it will actually be repealed anytime soon and it's already gone on for over ten years right right and let's let's talk a little about what this is doing to people especially like you said i

yes i want to see impunity i mean i do think that you know the united states is a nation of the rule of law and we take that responsibility seriously domestically i agree completely that i look forward to the day that the united states participates in as a member of the i.c.c. i do want to make clear though that there has been a very fundamental shift under the obama administration i mean we should recall that in the windies of the clinton administration united states did sign on to the i.c.c. in an unprecedented move president bush signed us from the room statute and under the obama administration we've actually been cooperating with the i.c.c. that is very different in the stands for. using drones while using these drones killing people the u.s. wants to join the i.c.c. george jump in the united states is more than happy to cooperate with the i.c.c. when the i.c.c. is indicting and prosecuting adversaries of the united states of course it was absolutely delighted when the i.c.c. took on the case of gaddafi and then issued its indictment of gaddafi without any proper investigation a

this becomes a huge problem and i just want to say that you know for me you know i love my country i mean i was i was an ex air force officer. and so i understand the import of democracy and also that as african-american knowing how far we've come as a country and now it's never get to the point where president obama's being. again this is awesome but to know that he is being rolled back to know that corporations are making us say what would have happened if to be honest if the if the slave owners could have influenced how that could have been said what would happen if the wall works would be able to push forward say you know what we would prefer legislation that would keep the lunch counter for segregated. when we come back we'll pick up this conversation i'd like to talk about the nixon and kennedy debates. and it's bigger picture discussion politics money and voter money our voters in coming up after the break. we're going. to. let me let me i want to know why not let me ask you a question. here on this network is what we have in the bank we have our knives out. in the sky it's a bad t

itself as a great power you know that the soviet union is being gone for a quarter century right now i mean the. kind of technologies and ideas about branding and p.r. out there ok why aren't they employed more here well you know i think that of course. the bread is something which is difficult to change if not the better of the perception if people think about this country particularly i think you take a look you do take a lot of effort to change the way how they approach the country. of course a lot depends on how russia itself would like to position so you know the rules i mean every country likes to brand itself ok but it's seems to me and i've lived here for about fifteen years is that the outside world has branded russia ok and the brand that russia attempts or thinks about is in second place third place no place ok because every single day i can see the branding of russian headlines well if that's true and you know what it's. branding is about to bring up some sensations like if you good are it goes wouldn't be published even if they have published how out in the west and so there's

well yeah i mean ideally versus the growth we should get you want to get whatever i mean i don't have a tracker bill gross does but i'm just saying i think that there's a case to be made for the deflation the asset price deflation that we still have where a more to unwind i had a point if the fed came out and at the end of the air like a few fed officials said hey then that will happen well yeah well i mean. i think that the markets you know this is this is the thing we had colin on calling talked about yes and i've talked about before and i believe it and we've talked about this jim grant i think that the fed is much more in the business of. open mouth policy in terms of expectations setting then it is anything to physically do because the banking sector is what we rely on to increase the money supply much of the baggage of the financial sector in general so that's really where the inflation the reflation of the economic going to be can come from and i think that we have a lot more debt to work through and a lot more confidence the build up we actually see that dimitri we're out

ok jake i think you were called in your marxist how do you want to react to that i mean is. there has to be some kind of reform here out or there's no accountability whatsoever yeah go ahead. well i think we can forgive paul for that indiscretion because he lives in britain he's obviously not familiar with libertarianism and the libertarian movement in the united states but let me let me edify him a bit that libertarian this is a libertarian critique of the national security state libertarians here in the united states paul we believe in individual freedom free markets a limited government constitutional republic and none of this is consistent with a military empire in which there is military bases and more than one hundred countries which engage in a cia that engages in regime change operations military coups. interference in the internal affairs of other countries assassinates people incarcerate people indefinitely tortures people none of this is consistent with a free society and that's something that status are committed to is something we libertarians are opposed to ok p