the medical system should be to the service of all so you don't have to rely upon it i mean if we had a better system we'll be able to cope with this crisis much easier south korea has already been mentioned go ahead pete so i agree with you but. what i would say is that the problems our government we don't need more government i gree need more or less license your requirements we need less cut and protections on drugs so the generics come out sooner we need a lot and i mean a lot of. reining in of lawsuits and tort that creates a lot of cost in the medical and in the medical jerry system that it is in medicine today so i would argue that the problem is too much government and not not enough ok but still giving it all to private enterprise where they can regulate themselves i mean i see where you're going ok but it's not solving it's not going to solve the problem immediately and do what kind of recession we facing well i think that we're going to see a recession in the 2nd and 3rd quarter is how deep it is is still up for much debate i mean people think that the economy is already co

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of today 26000000 people over the past 5 weeks have gone on unemployment and now this is massive i mean if someone would have told me this is a scenario what it is i would have been in comprehensible to me a month and a half ago and now. what needs to be done because that these are the people that consume and they get out of a slump you need a lot of consumption and you know i know that there's been potential aid being sent directly to individuals but it seems to be a pittance because most people will use that allowance from the government to pay off debts more than anything else than consume and ben is absolutely right i mean just because you opened up the economy doesn't mean this pandemic has been completely nailed down and vanquished and i still think people be very very hesitant to go out in public and consume even if they have the money and having the money is a big if right now go ahead by having the money and money i say increasingly in quotes and we have certain banks in the south and southeast outright revolting wanting to get back to work and trying to dilly dallying and flip

the gulf states are really going to be there already in recession dubai abu dhabi and others i mean the pressures are intense some of them may collapse from it but others may have no choice but to escalate the binary process forces escalation so i expect later to see or an april sometime around that we'll see quite a big scale ation of tensions between iran and the all of them some syria iran and also because now there is a project to remove america from the region that's what i was getting in read my mind exactly and he is the is the is the deal of the century a way to cement forever american presence in the middle east. it's meant to cement israel's position bad by the unite as as the carrier of what americans now call themselves judeo christianity i mean it's not just the old testament not just the break tradition but it's now carries the christian connotation the hyphen to it into the middle east but i don't know i think that it may end up paradoxically by the americans losing their footprint and losing their position in the middle east i think it's just my own personal belief bu

i mean what middle class kind of. you know what i was saying earlier as far as you know the post-war phase of a middle class a building has been dissipated over the past 20 years. you know people in suburbia and rural parts are wondering why the number of homeless have skyrocketed they attributed to laziness or and or drug abuse in part because dad dad a proper dad a real transparent dad is not plentiful from the government and hence it causes confusion so that people blame citizens especially after the 08 crisis which tweaked the economy it was already an over leverage system the government came in to leverage to do even further amount of debt in the system that's announced is a multiple of grave multiple of what it had been before the real rate of debt including for instance a derivatives notional value of derivatives contracts globally is in the hundreds of trillions of dollars not even a number at that point we face catastrophe and a 2nd great depression in less than 90 years and yet people are calling it a great r

i think the threat is absolutely real i mean i think back to the terrorist attacks of september 11th 2001 you know there are many parallels to that time and today in each case there was a genuine threat to public safety people called on their governments to protect them and what we saw then is you know many governments overreach in the name of protection they completely undermine human rights in ways that didn't make us any safer so you know it was hard then to roll back some of those steps you know today if you look at the united states we still have one ton of the bush cia torturers were never prosecuted you know we still have large portions of the surveillance state that the national security agency created we still have killing by targeted you know by drones targeted killing by them so you know these are the kinds of threats that we could face today but the flip side is that frankly this is also an opportunity to show that respect for human rights is essential to an effective public health strategy and i mean let me give an example going to the origins of this pandemic if we look

i mean i believe in sovereignty here but the means of by the way they went through this process here is a as i said earlier is going to have a cascade effect all the way through the economy just to keep your friends that have shares in these companies that it's very expensive you have to have high oil prices but at the same time you know you you have this tendency to want to. not tendency to this drive to put your own oil on the market and demanding other people not participate in it again the most kind of anti-capitalistic anti-trade process you can imagine go ahead dean well i think it's not their only market it's and they nature of i mean they fear that they're in that that states should not be using the oil from the a so our you know where by the will of what you know there was a lot of tropical forests in there and sometimes and there's a lot of oil in venice so it just makes sense to use it in the united states this a year is simply a nature of the same story with the european union and the or ratio which is mostly basically russia you know they year they have the european unio

their face and a pandemic is made even worse and i don't think there's any really any real road back i mean this is some of the most worse was poorly thought out policies i can imagine and people and average working people are going to pay for it go ahead learn. it well i agree with that assessment because polish shale revolution a serious has been very much all shared on in the us media for quite some time and indeed has been very spectacular that is united states was taken from a huge energy importer to become a big exporter and they are going to trump celebrated american big game to its energy independence which high priority however this was achieved so many things was not just the shale taken ology the us was also able to a large extent to replace the energy or oil coming out of iran and venezuela by sanctioning them and replacing it furthermore since the russians and the south has been trying to stabilize prices by cutting production in the u.s. especially been able to move and failed to demand so it is been able to increase. fuel this sheller of lucian on many aspects but one i would

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program want to talk about the political implications of that to go to peter and great barrington i mean one of the interesting things i actually picked up a couple days ago a book about the bankers and the great depression that started in 2929 and it revealed a lot of the flaws of the economy what flaws are being revealed because you when you have these kind of crisis these you actually see the flaws of the system that is being that is falling apart what is some of the flaws that you see as we speak as we watch the global economy slowdown go ahead peter. well one of these i see is that we have the ability for political positions just to jump into any time i mean . this clamping down on the entire economy. shows one of the flaws because now we have all this fear and the way that the u.s. and china and italy have attacked this coronavirus issue is vastly different than what south korea did and south korea basically harnessed private property rights they respect individual freedoms and to some extent of course i mean there are quarantines but they've basically they basically have an invent

united states everybody was captivated by week you exhibit donald trump that i love wiki leaks ok i mean it's amazing how they've abandoned him because you know what what he did they don't do anymore and i think that you know they do know that they're being shamed here because from what i've read and i've been following week you think since its inception it's never released anything that wasn't authentic ok i mean how many new cable stations newspapers magazines web sites put out fake news all the time now one scheme you pin it on do we want all right so i mean it seems to me the way they do they see that. by the way they attack him is that somehow they can redeem themselves as being real journalist but that's child's play doesn't make any sense go ahead taylor. yes you're exactly right in fact a wiki leaks has a 100 percent accuracy rate in its reporting i cannot think of any other corporate media outlet that can say that and have that. record it seems to me that many people many journalists in the corporate media and the mainstream media do not want to associate themselves with joining

i mean i agree completely and we said ok. well i completely agree with alex i think it's very important to say that efficiency. is is not against democracy democratic congress very very efficient for example during their walter wars you know where you had to drop horses that well of course that the bats for millions of the world it now will suddenly the reaches the countries in the world could not put up 100200000 bats that's just it's one of the era the amount they did when i come from the u.s. the u.s. can spend over $700000000000.00 a year on defense about non-existing threats but they can't make facemasks ok ok go figure all right go figure let me go to let me go to alex here i think that you know again there's the leads in particularly in the media and in in politics not so much in business because they have such deep ties with china right now that's why i don't think this is going to work because again you can blow off steam and say you know point fingers and makes you feel good but at the end of the day because the fin

i mean the only thing that joe biden is ever excelled at is being mediocre in beirut well i mean i don't think it's a sara lee about whether he ended up with a white 70 year old man i mean that would have also been bernie sanders not a good bernie sanders it's not so much about that it's so much the politics it's more about the policies that joe biden represents you do have this new sort of woke identity politics that the democratic you know neal liberal establishment has embraced and a very superficial way and so it's not about the fact that joe biden's an old white man it's about the policies he's supported throughout his career whether it's the crime bill and pushing that whether it's literally whipping democratic votes for the war in iraq the most destructive. foreign policy decision of the 21st century or you know whether it's opposing busting and basically like you know be friending segregationist back in the day and also you know it's just that's what's so shocking about this is joe biden's entire record is the opposite of all of these superficial woke up and the politics. slogans

i mean. it's a successful program but he's been behind a whole lot of wars he voted for the iraq war he seemed people who didn't vote for the iraq war and voted for the war in afghanistan he's voted a well actually he was vice president during the during the war in libya and syria and during the other war in iraq he voted for and. we can't forget about charisma because i'm sure donald trump is the real answer is with a vengeance. and china and china ok i so i know i noticed the dueling ads that came out very very interesting this is going to be a nasty campaign or i'm going to jump in here and this is your program we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on joe biden and the democrats. the world is driven by a dream shaped by phone person. of . the day or thinks. we dare to ask. has changed american lives but pharmaceutical companies have a miraculous solution. based drugs to people who are chronic pain and believe that their opiate prescript

they were i mean there was a house full of children i mean small kids i mean i don't know i honestly don't believe it was her. had only one bone in her body i mean she never disciplined these kids so i remember her yelling you know but i mean i said to spank her kids. you know. i've never known the senators and i wish you would if. you could all of these kids they've been through a lot richard try to hate him so. he tried to hang himself. using this because of what they want to do harm. one of their mom. and imagine going from foster care to foster care. and somebody else's. you need your mom. mr was a good mother. following the arrest of a release a loose show the family was broken apart and the children were placed in homes all over texas. they have never seen their mother again. i don't know why my sister sitting on death row a danger to society having 13 children. there just doesn't make any sense that i'll . have anybody that sat through that trial knows that my sister's child was the circus it was just awful. she stood no chance. she stood no chance we tried to be going everywh

from the from the nazis so so they let things happen that they could about a lot of old british ship i mean they sacrifice to ships that's right and so so they i guess that the idea is to make a value decision is what they're doing but certainly something of this nature i would think that they could have covered up with all kinds of other kinds of inputs and not really compromised fact that they in fact were reading all these the encrypted messages so although reagan apparently blew the expose the libyan well yes he did that when he that's when he did yes that's true i was a bombing at the mainland discotheque and then he got up in public and said well we read the correspondence that's right from the embassy in berlin and we know gadhafi was lying that's another point if you noticed that the countries that didn't buy into this encrypted system that was trying to run the people who do better right right but the problem is you see they were also to an extent compromised by the communications from other embassies from right countries out to their home country right so that's. they make that po

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always appreciate jen let me go to you 1st i mean i said in my introduction here i mean you know you have you have a lot of gaffes coming from joe biden and he's been known for it ok it's not you know all of a sudden but the intensity of them are is mounting and that maybe just because of the media's watching more closely i'm trying to be really fair here but we i think we have every right to know about the mental facilities the capabilities of someone that is running for the highest office in the land i mean how do you come out on this go ahead john. well i agree i said last tuesday on super tuesday that the good news was for joe biden he won the primaries and i also said at the same time the bad news is he won the primaries and that the spotlight would soon be getting super hot on him and they his numerous gaffes i mean this is a man who wakes up and on a daily basis is not too sure what state he said he mistakenly called his wife his sister last week and the list of gaffes really go on and on and on and luckily there are always video cameras around to to record those

mental facilities the capabilities of someone that is running for the highest office in the land i mean how do you come out on this go ahead john. well i agree i said last tuesday on super tuesday that the good news was for joe biden he won the primaries and i also said at the same time the bad news is he won the primaries and that the spotlight would soon be getting super hot on him and his numerous gaffes i mean this is a man who wakes up and on a daily basis is not too sure what state he zen he mistakenly called his wife his sister last week and the list of gaffes really go on and on and on and luckily there are always video cameras around to to record those and you're very right peter they have hawker see from the left is rich here because they began calling president trump then candidate trump crazy in june of 2015 shortly after his announcement here in new york city that he wanted to run for president of the united states and that is something that continued through his inauguration in january of 2017 and really has continued through the entire impeachment investigation you know t

chains and particularly when it comes to pharmaceuticals and the health industry in general here i mean even if even if there was a political push to change the current reality which i seem very unlikely because these are business decisions and that government decisions then it's a very complicated issue because you have trade relations that are. expect very extensive very deep in the profit motive is obviously there but you come out with this rhetoric now that you know has china must pay much and i have my reparations and all this i mean on one side one can understand you know the frustration it may be correct may be incorrect that i don't think we really need to discuss this here but the fact of the matter is is that trade relations are being reexamined here and how do you see that moving forward because of china's time extremely well over the last 40 years because of what is called globalization how does that change with this pandemic go ahead victor. well i would say this koran our various will really define history as we understand it and the world of tomorrow will be very very ver

again the the that deepest most bio recent phobia raises its head again i mean if it rushes even suggesting giving aid and comfort is somehow a trojan horse 'd or a means of subversion here i mean you know hopefully in future historians will look at this is the reaction of the media and some members of the elite were discomposure. the child this as a pandemic was raging through the world i mean it really kind of defines any kind of sensibility go ahead and. think that's right i mean it's completely irrational that's not to say that the chinese did everything perfectly. the problem is that you know our governments in britain and the united states had reacted far worse and i was just reading an extraordinary article and look in the london times cataloguing the fact that for 38 days the british government was basically an equal completely on the gauge with the problem of prime minister boris johnson skipped far crisis meetings to discuss this so you know what do you do when you're failing when people thousands of people are dying when your hospitals are overflowing when you don't have enough p

the university closed over a month ago in the 1st week of march and we moved to online education i mean this is a completely different life we know won't last forever but i also think that we're never going to go back to normalcy it will be by normalcy is great pandemic and now you've been writing about the perils of capitalism globalization for many years and i think it's fair to say that you've been treated radical about it by the standards of the wall street journal i wonder if these last weeks and months have changed your analysis in any way not at all i think it's confirms my analysis i've been arguing for the last decade or so that what we're capitalism crisis is both a structural crisis and it is also a crisis of state when you're going to see a list edge of money and this pandemic did not cause the crisis you know only major they asked us to write and make and revealed to the whole world and it's going to aggravate all of that the dimensions of the crisis the health emergency relents but we're still going to be left with this dual crisis of structural the structural crisis of th

well but still and i'm trying not to invoke too much politics into this but i mean it is very much the flavor of the moment because i will be perfectly honest with you as i think because of the way the medical system in the united states exists it was very vulnerable to work to a black swan event like this ok and in a lot of people have questions because i'm not it's up to i mean having a you recovery would be that would be great news to hear ok but i mean when you think of so much of value that is being destroyed as we speak right now and you think of the consolidation that's going to happen as a result of where a businesses were the ones that will maybe just teeter in just you know maybe make might make it might be these what gobbled up by a much bigger player and so as a result of this. recession that we're going through here we're going to have fewer players are going to have more inequality so you know that that's going to make it a very wobbly you and that and that's the optimistic case i would say and plus i'm going to agree with both of you government policy is one thing but pr

dad doing ok i mean i've barely seen him i think i've you know you know we talk and i've been at the house to like drop off supplies and i like since the window i kind of thing but that doing ok i think it's going stir crazy you know they are both in that kind of danger category you know when i was a cancer survivor my dad got oxen's and you know he's got a he's got a mony at 2 times last year is now really you know taking this very seriously thankfully i mean i was i was yelling from you know i was going insane leading up to this being like guys got to take this seriously this is no joke this is no joke and then they gonna be like oh yeah you're right no like yes it was i like to. it really is the lion king circle of life isn't it jack that eventually yeah your beloved parents you circularize and do you go through your upbringing in the white water of youth and then all of sudden you get dumped on the outside and you've got to say you know take this seriously you're the for exactly yeah i mean that you know i like you know i follow the news and you know minutely you know i'm a bit o

i mean all of them here ok well one of the home. but on the phone to her oh well we are going to mama. and i was up there you and i with your money oh yeah i said i gotta go all right. but of the boat really well no no it's a song i'm going to let. you know so been on a been with the movement all. those i don't sell you on the bus but someone tell you where i'm just a company. a simple thing oh yeah yeah i'm playin and you and some of your mothers are one upon. well you. are so mean euro currency i'm looking for the now on the only nucky you know in. borrow form mcconnell see the normally the t.n.f. army. healthiness received. along with the opposite i wound he said in the markets i will have i'm watching. the maze young man he's watching him as i don't have. what i meant that is until they see a. name what are we were a company and nothing on the want of a phone i can't bully the one i might our own we will always see wind that them and it will come with their game. in order that someone on the. unusual striving to land the country

he knows it or i'm the stuff of life like threat my my health this is on friday and i'm just like i mean that's just come by so quickly i might go out in another like 10 years are going to be out of the house a comedy that. your family has such so much creativity and it's a lot of them exhibit musical artistic chops yeah my my my daughter oh she's a very good piano player and she can like play just from from sounds like she can figure stuff out so she is it she can she can hammer out a way and i think it's pretty cool if you stop because that. no more appropriate name for tickling the ivory of the pearl so it's going to see a big cheer there. as your mom and dad good. yeah they're doing ok i mean i've barely seen him i think i've you know you know what tolkien i've been at the house to like drop off supplies and i like since the window i kind of thing but that doing ok i think it's going stir crazy you know they are both in that kind of danger category you know when i was a cancer survivor my dad got oxen's and you know he's got a he's got a mony a 2 times last year is now really you kno

as i say in the book i mean i have rules for radicals behind my desk at the nation and you know i've had it behind my at my back for i don't know 35 years it's influenced everybody from barack obama to hillary clinton but. you know i think it's influenced them a lot and i think that's part of a problem maybe the negative and that's that's why i found jane's critique prevalence be so interesting because her point is when you do organizing when you do when you're organizing workers the question is who has agency do the workers have agency themselves or do that does the organizer have agency and alinsky was constantly telling his funders and his sponsors that he was the alternative to this to communist organizers in the cia oh he said you know the church has funded him in the back of the yards because he said i can beat the communists their own game i can do better organizing but part of his approach is to parachute people in like barack obama who had no ties to the community where they were organizing and and who maintained a kind of top down approach and also at least in jane's portra

i mean. it's a 2nd short program but he's been behind a whole lot of awards he voted for the iraq war he shamed people who didn't vote for the iraq war and voted for the war in afghanistan he's a well actually he was vice president during the during the war in libya and syria and during the other war in iraq he voted for and. we can't forget about christmas because i'm sure donald trump is the real answer is with a vengeance. and china and china ok i so i don't i noticed the dueling ads that came out very very interesting this is going to be a nasty campaign or i'm going to jump in here and this is your program we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on joe biden and the democrats new york. you're sitting somewhere i. can just. see i'm going to. i was on the floor some things in my bathroom you know my brain. it's time for friends that i work since i was having children fever i didn't have any sense of c. source no. from the most you know from the

i mean, jessie died first, and huldah, i believe, i want to say he may have been 10. in any event, he was put on a train with 10 cents sewn into his underclothes and some homemade vittles, and sent to oregon to live with a quaker uncle by the name of minthorn in newberg, oregon. if you go today, you can see the herbert hoover boyhood home there. >> and there he was, in effect, trained to business. his uncle was a businessman, and bert, has he was known, went on to stanford. he was in the original class. in fact, stanford became probably the closest thing to a home away from home. he would be a trustee for over 50 years. he built his home there. today, it's the university's president's house. >> but in any event, he loved stanford. and he ran a business. he ran a laundry business. he ran other businesses. so he had this entrepreneurial streak in him. studied geology and engineering. met, fell in love with lou henry, also from iowa, a unique woman in many ways, the first at stanford to earn a geology degree. so they had this real respectful partnership from the beginnin

i think yes i mean that be a good example for someone who is wanting to expose government wrongdoing but it's doing the right thing it's a unique person and i think even with these actions against me elsie manning johnson react to you and julian and sons. i think you can despite that people have integrity. and know how to do the right thing and i don't think this is going to squelch any of that even if it isn't covert attempt at infringing the u.n. charter you wouldn't advise a whistleblower a journalist a publisher any of them to to attack the intelligence services for racism no i am not saying don't do anything like that because there are certainly reprisals but i'm just saying stand up be yourself stick to your integrity and stick to your conscience and regardless of how big the enemy may be you can stand up for yourself and you can fight against these individuals may not be a good outcome but as i have always myself i would never let you all see to something that i did not did and i would never be able to face myself in the mirror doing such a thing so contrary to my character and

members of the elite were discomposure the child this as a pandemic was raging through the world i mean it really kind of defies any kind of sensibility go ahead or i think it i think that's right i mean it's completely you actionable that's not to say that the chinese did everything perfectly but it's the problem a is that you know our governments in britain and the united states had reacted for all worse and i was just reading an extraordinary article in the in the london times cataloguing the fact that the 38 days the british government was basically an equal completely on engaged with the problem and of prime minister boris johnson skip to far 8 crisis meetings to discuss this so you know what do you do when you're failing when people thousands of people are dying when your hospitals are overflowing and when you don't have enough protective equipment or closing for hospital stuff what you have in britain you blame outsiders and you blame china because of course china is the great rival and competitor and it's also shorting really managed to get this epidemic under control which is w