about -- >> i knew paul was -- i knew paul was fooling with -- when i pulled up on the golf cart, maggie was standing back sort of where the driveway would be. it sort of runs out at the feed room. the storage room is what we call it, it has been called a feed room. but it sort of ran out. maggie was a little bit further up where she could see back in that angle where the dogs were. paul was fooling with rogan's dog, back toward the kennel, if i remember when i first got there, paul was more in the driveway, but then i knew paul was in the kennel fooling with cash, yes. did i know what he was doing? i didn't know exactly what he was doing, no. >> did you -- >> i knew he was fooling with his -- i knew he was fooling with his tail. >> was cash in the kennel when you pulled up, you think? >> not when i first got there. >> did bubba or grady have any collars on? >> yes. >> both dogs, one dog, you remember? >> i don't know about grady, but i know bubba had on his, what we call a tracking collar. paul, for his hunting dogs, paul had a system, a series of tracking collars. i think there were fi

>> i loved doing anything with paul. he was an absolute delight. but yeah, one of the things -- i mean paul's passion -- paul was passionate about a lot of things but that property was really a passion of his. he loved to do -- he loved to work it. he loved to work the fields. he loved to work the food plots. he loved to hunt. he would work on the roads. i mean, he would work on all of it. he would work on the structures. he worked on the whole property. it was his passion. >> so on the evening of -- the jury has been inundated with data from various different sources, but just ballpark. can you -- knowing what we know now after reviewing everything, but roughly when do you remember paul getting there and you getting there on the property? >> now that i've had the benefit of seeing all of these records, paul got home, i believe, a little bit before 7:00 and i got home a little bit before him. i think the details have been i got home around 6:42 or something like that and paul got there very quickly thereafter by 7:00. >> so you rode the property for

before you ate dinner. >> as i said earlier, paul and i were at the shop, maggie got home, i left paule. i think you were saying that i said i met paul at the house and that's incorrect. >> paul was still down at the shop when you were at the house, correct in. >> when i first went to the house, paul was still at the shop, i believe. >> was maggie there when you arrived at the house? >> yes, i believe she was. >> and 8:09 is the last steps you have on this phone before 9:02, correct? >> that's what the data shows. >> looking now at page 15, i'm sorry, page 14, your steps that you say when you got to the house, 8:09 and paul was still down at the shop, but don't these records reflect that paul is pinging with gps data at the house at 8:08? >> this record appears to show paul at the house at 8:08. >> all right. >> so those records don't fit with your new story that you testified yesterday and today, is is that correct? >> no, i don't believe even right now that's right. i'm not saying -- you are taking 8:09 and saying that i'm at the house. that may or may not be right. what i'm saying i

i left paul at the shop and i went to the house.i think you were saying that i said i met paul at the house and that's incorrect. >> paul was still down at the shop when you were at the house, correct? >> when i first went to the shop paul was still at the shop i believe. >> was maggie there when you arrived at the house? >> i believe she was. >> 8:09 is the last steps you have on this phone before 9:402 correct? >> that's what the data shows. >> looking now at page 15 -- i'm sorry, page 14, your steps that you say when you got to the house is 8:09 and paul was still out at the shop. don't these records reflect that paul is pinging with gps data at the house at 8:08? >> this record appears to show paul at the house at 8:08. >> all right. so those records don't fit with your new story that you testified yesterday and today. is that correct? >> no, i don't believe even right now, mr. waters, that's right. what you are doing is taking 8:09 and saying that i'm at the house. and that may or may not be right. but what i'm saying is that w

i left paul at the shop and i went to the house. think that you were saying that i said that i met paul at the house, and this is incorrect. >> paul was at the shop when you were at the house, correct? >> when i went to the house, paul was still at the shop i believe. >> was maggie there when you arrived at the house? >> yes, i believe. >> and 8:09 is the last steps that you have at the house at 9:02, correct? >> that is what the data shows. >> looking now at page 15. sorry, page 14. your steps that you say that when you got to the house at 8:09 and paul was still down at the house, and don't these records reflect that paul is gps pinging the house at 8:08? >> this record appears to show paul at the house at 8:08. >> all right. so these records don't fit with your new story that you testified yesterday and today, is that correct? >> no, i don't, i don't believe right you're taking 8:09 and saying i'm at the house. that may or may not be right. but what i'm saying is that when maggie came through, i left and i believe that paul staid

i was the person who found maggie and paul. my distrust for s.l.e.d. all of those factors combined made me decide to lie. i always know him asking me about maggie and paul paul contributed to that paranoid i can't. all i'm saying is i'm not disputing that i lied. i'm saying at this point you're saying i made a conscious decision to lie here. and i'm saying that i don't think that i made a conscious decision right there. >> had you already had your gsr done? why yes, sir. >> and you already talked to your law partners arrend heard sheriff and blaming him and chief alexander now as well for your lies some. >> no, sir. >> i just added that one. >> give him an opportunity to answer the question. objection. >> punish your last answer. >> i'm not blaming anybody. i accept full responsibility for what i did. what i'm saying is the reason why i did that. i think those folks were trying to help me. so i don't blame them. i think they were worried about me. >> but you took that advice as i need to lie? >> no, you are isolating one -- >> i mentioned all the factor

i was just reviewing paul's i thought thoughtful and insightful discussion pivoting off my books that involve some critiques, and i hope we can get into some of these more fundamental issues. i think international politics tends toward the darwinian at some level. animals practice it as well. i think that's the sort of model that we want. i think as we discussed before, jacob, my goal is not revolution -- for the chinese people's sake, i would wish a revolution away from the communist government, but i don't think we need dismemberment or regime change in china. what we need is a china that respects others' do claims in equities and china in that world will be one of the two superpowers that will command respect. it will have weight within our sphere of influence even if we don't formally recognize it. my friend puts it, we have to sprint to qualify for the marathon, and i think that's the trouble where we are now. jacob: paul, sprint to qualify for the marathon -- is that what we need to do? paul: i would not disagree with that. i actually concur with much of what bridge just said. i

and while i was doing that, that's when i went to maggie and went to paul. so that's what i think i'm talking about. >> keep going, please. >> did they shoot themselves? >> i don't know. >> are they breathing? >> no, ma'am. >> you said it's your wife and your son? >> my wife and my son. >> are they in a vehicle? >> no, ma'am, they are on the ground. >> did you see anyone? >> where is he shot at? >> ma'am, i don't know. there's blood everywhere. >> okay. is he breathing at all? >> no. >> okay. do you see anyone in the area? >> no, mall. >> is there any guns near them at all? >> no. >> what color is your house on the outside? >> they didn't shoot themselves. >> right in there, you say the word here. are you calling anybody or anything? >> no, i'm talking to that dispatcher. >> what did you mean when you said here? >> if you listen to that call, ones of first things she asked me one -- one of the first things she asked me is did they shoot themselves. i knew there's no way. i knew they didn't shoot themselves. there wasn't a gun. they didn't shoot themselves. sh

paul? >> yeah. illed him paul paul. >> okay, go ahead, i'm sorry. >> and buster and maggie -- i called him paul paul, but mags called him paul paul, bust called him paul paul. a lot of people called him paul paul. but, anyway, i learned about the -- i had known that cb, the guy that worked for us, had sprayed the sunflowers. i knew about that. but i had been out of town. i didn't know they were dead. paul let me know they had died. so we had to replant the dove field. that's the dove field, dove field is just a big social part of having property, people would come and it is just a social big part of it. dove field was a big deal. so when the sunflowers got killed, paul was -- we knew they were dead, paul was coming home. and i learned that early monday morning. >> and did -- and we'll catch back up, but at some point in time did you meet up with paul? >> yeah. after work i met paul paul at the property. >> and we're going back and talking about more of the day, but i want to focus in on the evening ri

>> i said, paul paul, i should have known. >> what were you referring to? >> i was referring to paul paul got so many threats. didn't take it serious. think twice about it. just telling him, paul paul, i should have known. i don't specifically remember saying that. but i can clearly hear myself say that. >> what kind of threats did you understand paul was receiving? >> paul got -- he got the most vile threats. i mean, the stuff that was on social media, i mean, it was -- you couldn't believe it. you couldn't believe it. it was so over the top. truthfully, we didn't think anybody about it. i mean, it was just so crazy that, you know -- people talking about what he was going to get and how they were going to do this and get him. i mean, it's stuff you really -- i mean, we disregarded it. it was so over the top. thought it was so over the top. >> keep going, please. >> okay. what is her name? >> maggie. >> maggie is her name? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. when is the last time you talked to maggie? >> hour and a half ago, probably two hours ago. >> okay. you said ab

paul? >> yeah, after work i met paul at the property. >> and we'll go back and talk about more of the day butus in on that evening right now. when paul gets to the property, what do you do? >> first thing we go to the dove field and we look at the dove field. >> how did you get to the dove field? >> he had come in in my brother's truck. we got in, my son buster's black pickup truck. we called it buster's truck or the black pickup truck. i call it buster's truck. >> you are in buster's truck and go to the dove field. >> that's the first thing we do. we go to the dove field and it was clearly -- you could tell they were -- you could tell they had been sprayed and they were dead. they might have still had a tiny bit of life but they were dead. we knew we had to replant the whole field. so that didn't take but a second. but after that, paul -- we just rode the property. we spent time together. we -- we rode around and we spent time together on the property. >> did you go to the duck pond? >> oh yeah, we went to several food plots, we went to single oak stand we called it. which is across the road

i pulled up and i saw maggie and paul. i jumped out of that car. i went back to my car and i called 911 as quickly as i could. that point in time when i got on the phone, then is when i went to them and did the things that i did. what you are saying is not accurate. >> you are not saying you said to law enforcement that you went to them prior to calling 911? >> when? >> after you got out of the car, you told law enforcement repeatedly that you went over and checked the bodies before you called 911. >> if i did say that, i don't believe that's accurate. that i checked maggie and paul before i called 911? >> yes. >> no, sir. that's not accurate. at least that's not what i remember. >> that's not what you remember saying or that's not what you say now happened? >> that's not what i believe happened. >> you don't deny that's what you said? >> that i said that i checked maggie and paul before i called 911? >> correct. >> i don't believe that's what i said. i know i checked them. but i don't believe i checked them before i called 911. i could pretty well

i was just telling him, paul, paul, i should have known. i don't specifically remember saying that, but i can clearly hear myself say that. >> what kind of threats did you understand paul was receiving? >> paul got the most vile threats, the stuff that was on social media. you couldn't believe it. you couldn't believe it. it was so over the top, truthfully, we didn't think anything about it. it was just so crazy. people talking about what he was going to get and how they were going to do this and get him and it's stuff you really disr disregarded it because it's so over the top. thought it was so over the top. >> keep going please . >> when was the last time you talked to maggie? >> probably two hours ago. >> okay, you said about two hours ago you talked to them? >> approximately. >> you were asked the last time you saw them and you said hour and a half to two hours ago. you just heard that. >> i did hear that. >> approximately. >> right after i took the chicken from be bubba. >> the video we have seen is time stamped 8:44 p.m. is that corr

i know that for a fact. >> and maggie and paul's funeral was saturday, is that right? >> i heard that in this courtroom say it was saturday, but -- >> memorial service? >> funeral was on friday. >> it was on friday. i know that for a fact, too. >> and then your father's funeral is on sunday? >> my father's funeral was on sunday, and it was my -- my father's funeral, i forget the term -- but sunday -- that's when, that's when we put paul-paul and mags, that's when we buried them. we didn't bury them when we had the service on friday. because i don't think they were done -- that's when we buried them along with my dad. on sunday. >> and alec, what did you do the following week, that monday, tuesday, wednesday? >> um, starting when now? >> so the day after your dad's funeral. >> all right, monday, um, i went -- i went to grandma and papa ts in sommerville. >> where did you stay monday night? >> we stayed

when i left paul paul, i went to morgan dowdy that was like a daughter to maggie and i, had dated paul for a long time. i went to morgan. morgan hadded -- she was very upset about mallory. and they were working on her. so i left her room. i went back to paul paul. at some point in time, i know i went to connor's room. those are the only rooms that i went to. i can't tell you that with certainty. >> when you were wearing that badge like that, did you tell the kids not to cooperate with law enforcement? >> i never told anybody not to cooperate with law enforcement whether i had a badge hanging out of my pants, didn't have a badge or any point in time did i tell anybody don't cooperate with law enforcement. >> did you become aware in march or april or may of 2021 shortly before june that an investigation into the investigation of that night had begun as well as your conduct? >> i did learn of that. >> okay. >> i don't know the status of that investigation. being that i've been charged with so many things and haven't been charged with that, i'm assuming that there may not be charges. >> wh

i was the person who found maggie and paul. my distrust for sled. all of those factors combined made me decide to live. i also know him asking me about maggie and paul-paul contributed to that paranoia. all i am saying is, i'm not disputing i lied. i'm just saying at this point, you are saying that i made a conscious decision to lie here. and i'm saying come i don't think i made a conscious decision right there. >> i believe so. >> had you have your gsr at this point? >> yes work on my head. >> you talk to your law partners and sheriff hill and now you blame them. and chief alexander now as well for your lives? >> no so there sir, mr. waters. >> you just added that. >> can he be given an opportunity to answer the question? >> the last answer. >> mr. waters, i'm not blaming anybody. i accept full responsibility for what i did. what i'm saying is what i believe contributed to me doing that. and the reason why i did that. i think those folks were trying to help me. so, i don't blame them. i think they were worried about me. >> i don't dispute that. but

>> no, i did not kill maggie or paul. i would never hurt maggie and i would never hurt ball ever, under any circumstances. >> thank you. please answer any questions that they may have. >> yes, sir. >> we're going to take -- >> excuse me, judge. >> we're going to take a ten-minute recess. please do not discuss the case. >> martha: wow. dramatic to be sure watching this case play out. the alec murdaugh double murder trial and those murdered were members of his family. his wife and his son, paul, who we heard a lot about today. he has admitted that he lied when he talked about where he was when they were killed. but he has insisted that he did not kill them. judge jeanine pirro joining us watching this. judge jeanine, he's admitted that he lied and he stole from his law firm and he said something very interesting that i want to start with here in this first sound bite. this is at the beginning of this session. this is call number 1. >> i didn't shoot my wife or my sonny time. ever. most of all, i'm sorry to mags and paul paul

paul did some bad stuff. i think that was the one big question, there's something that's not being told. >> i can't imagine anybody being hated that much. >> it was shocking to hear about paul and maggie, but it was, like, at the same time, you can only do so much bad until somebody finally takes it in their hands. >> you couldn't ask for a better childhood than here in a small town. i know that's not what a lot of people like, but i wouldn't have it any other way. >> me and paul, we started hanging out probably when i was in fifth or sixth grade. couldn't ask for a, you know, better friend. one of our favorite things to do was to go to the river. everybody's got boats, so we would just call somebody and go. we did that a lot, for hours. >> they are all childhood friends. they all grew up together and they were all extremely close. there's anthony cook and his, mallory, and conor cook and his girlfriend, and morgan and her boy friend, paul murdaugh. they would do a lot of outdoor activities together. >> in the

so i agree with you entirely, paul. ink he committed himself entirely with those statements. it doesn't really make up for a policy. but, no, he is going to have to come up with a policy in one way or another. and he's going to get some pressure from those around him to suggest that there's merit to joining donald trump in that camp. they'll argue that this is where donald trump going to hit him really hard. he can't be seen to be in the same side as the president. i would argue that there's a lot more merit in him actually returning to the traditional republican view of a strong defense to give him a strong contrast with donald trump on this issue, keep him on the same page as a lot of people in congress and generally allow him to paint a very muscular foreign policy which i think would be his inclination otherwise and certainly with other players around the globe. paul: yeah. kyle, this would be, if desantis and the republican nominee in 204 went the donald trump route, have really a flipping of the two parties. you'd

as i said, i don't remember exactly when it was before that. paul and i had had a long talk and we had agreed -- i had agreed and i detoxed so many times. i had been to detox. i detoxed at home with maggie's help and detoxed at home with doctor's help. detoxed on my own, tried to, and it just detoxing just didn't work. it just -- you couldn't -- you could detox, but you couldn't -- but i couldn't -- i couldn't stay off of them, and so -- i promised paul that as soon as his -- as soon as we finished with his criminal case that i would go to rehab. and -- and on this particular occasion, paul knew that his mom worried about me so much with the pills that on this particular occasion, i think that pawpaw convinced maggie that i got those pills in anticipation of the eye surgery but that i never took them so that she would not worry that i was once again -- >> now you are talking about the time in may that paul talked to maggie and told her that? >> i'm not claiming that, mr. waters. that's the fact, that's what happened. >> we're hearing that now, corre

i don't know exactly where paul went. he left the house, too. >> okay. how did maggie get down to the kennels? >> i don't know exactly. on normal occasions she would drive, drive a buggy, drive a four wheeler or very common for her to walk. >> okay. >> how about paul? >> paul wasn't much of a walker. he would use all of the others. i mean, could be anyway, you know, i don't know exactly. i wish i could help you with that. >> so they left and went down to the kennels? >> maggie went to go to the kennels. >> and paul left? >> i'm assuming, you know, paul left because of, you know, what happened. i'm assuming paul went to the kennels. >> and what did you do once maggie and paul left? >> i stayed in the house. i was watching tv, looking at my phone. i fell asleep on the couch. >> okay. what time did you wake up? >> i don't know what time i woke up. when you get my phone, you know, i think one of the first things i did when i got up is call maggie. i was going to my mom's. and i know i texted her. i checked my phone. what time did we say the text was, jim? 9:0

and so, i promised paul that as soon, as soon as we finished with his criminal case that i would go to rehab. and umm, and on this particular occasion, umm, paul knew that his mom worried about me so much with pills that on this particular occasion, i think that paw-paw convinced maggie that i got those pills in anticipation of the eye surgery but that i never took them so that she would not worry that i was once again -- >> now you are claiming that about that time in may that paul talked to maggie and convinced her of that in that time in may. >> well, that is not what i am claiming, but what happened. >> and what you just said. >> mr. waters, you are making issue of being the first time you hearing these things. when i first got arrested, i reached out to you to try to tell you all of the things that i had done to give you all of the details to help you go through all of the financial thing, and up until the time that y'all charged with me with murdering my wife and child, you would never give jim griffin a response to our invitations to sit down and meet with you. >> so you are tel

>> i mean, that was a trait of paul's personality. i think anybody who knew him would tell you how intuitive he was. >> for the record, i'm at 46:30. >> i want to thank y'all very much. you don't have to call me mister. >> when you and paul went back to the house, ms. maggie is there. you said you laid down and took a little death. when you got up, maggie and paul was gone. or did they leave when you laid down? >> i believe that -- i'm not sure. >> but they weren't there when you woke up around 9:00 or so when you made a call to maggie? >> no. nobody was in that house when i left. >> the last time that paul -- you saw paul and maggie is when you were eating supper? >> yes, sir. >> your answer was yes, sir? >> that's correct. >> i'm about to go to the august 2021 interview. but between that june 10th interview and the august interview, you were not working very much, is that correct, if at all? >> no, i definitely wasn't working very much. i think i was working a little bit, but no, not very much at all. >> did you go to johnny parker t

i don't know exactly where paul went. he left the house, too. >> okay. how did maggie get down to the kennels? >> i don't know exactly. on normal occasions she would drive, drive a buggy, drive a four wheeler or very common for her to walk. >> okay. >> how about paul?

>> i mean, that was a trait of paul's personality. i think anybody who knew him would tell you how intuitive he was. for the record, i'm at 46:30. >> thank you all, very much. >> so you don't have to call. when you and paul got back to the house, maggie was there, which has been prepared, and you said you laid down and took a little nap, and when you got up, maggie and paul was gone, or did they leave when you laid down? >> i believe that -- i'm not sure. >> they weren't there when you woke up. >> nobody was in that house when i left. >> and just try to narrow -- the last time that paul and -- you saw paul and maggie is when you-all were eating supper? >> yes, sir. >> your answer was yes, sir. >> that's correct. >> going to the august 2021 interview, but between that june 10th interview and the august interview, you were not working very much, is that correct? if at all? >> no, i definitely wasn't working very much. i think i was working a little bit but, no, not very much at all. >>. >> did you go to johnny parker to borrow $250,000 i

>> i would never hurt maggie. >> did you murder paul? >> i would never hurt paul. if i was under the pressure that they're talking about here, i can promise you i would hurt myself before i would hurt one of them. without a doubt. >> thank you. that's all the questions i have, your honor. >> waters? >> may it please the court, you said that you were concerned when you talked to david owen about the bag of pills in your pocket, correct? >> no, sir, i'm not saying i was concerned about that. i don't think i told you i was concerned about that. i'm telling you, that was -- that was a fact. i had a big of pills in my pocket and that was one of the things that -- one of the many things that came together that night. >> you're trying to tell this jury as a reasonable husband and father in this situation, concerned about a bag of pills was more important to you than telling law enforcement and narrowing the time when you last saw your wife and son alive? that's what you want to convince this jury of? >> no, sir. the big of pills in my pocket is not what i was concerned abo

most of all, i am sorry to mags and paul paul. never intentionally do anything to intentionally hurt either one of them. ever. ever. >> did you continue lying after that night, did you not? >> once i lied, i continued to lie, yes, sir. >> why? >> you know, what a tangled web we weave, but once i told a lie, and i told my family, i had to keep lying. alex, tell the jur happened on the evening of june 7th, starting when you met one paul. >> i had been at work that day. a fairly normal day. do you want me to start in the morning? >> sure. start in the morning. >> it was a regular morning and maggie was leaving to go out of town. she was going to a doctor's appointment, and she had some stuff to do at edista, and she was having some stuff done on the house there. and maggie was getting ready to leave and she told me that she was going to do these things, and always, always asked maggie to come back home to stay with me. but, anyway, maggie had left and she did her thing. i went to work. did work. i learned from papa -- >> who is papa?

>> well, i think that's a mixed bag, paul. ng that there are a significant number of students who self-censor shemses concern themselves. and any student who finds his or herself self-censoring is not the type of environment we want to create at the university of north carolina. we have fantastic faculty on staff. they're world class. we wouldn't have 59,000 applicants to the university this year if we didn't have a world class faculty making a difference in students' lives. this initiative and support from the board of trustees is about adding to their ranks, not decreasing their ranks. we want -- this is a measure to add to the learning environment at chapel hill. paul: now, the faculty council has requested, i guess, that you and your vice chairman appear before the council to the, i guess, explain what this is all about. are you going to do that? >> well, i may. the faculty chair and i have had a good working relationship over the last couple of years. and i don't mind going to the faculty council meeting and letting them k

as i said, i don't remember exactly when it was before that. paul and i had had a long talk, and we'd agreed -- i'd agreed and i detoxed so many times. i'd been to detox. i detoxed at home with maggie's help. i detoxed at home with doctor's help. i detoxed on my own, tried to. and it just -- just detoxing just didn't work. it just -- you couldn't -- you could detox, but you couldn't -- not you -- i couldn't. i couldn't stay off of them, and so i promised paul that as soon as -- as soon as we finished with his criminal case that i would go to rehab and -- and on this particular occasion paul knew that his mom worried about me so much with pills that on this particular occasion i think that pau-pau convinced maggie that i got those pills in anticipation of the eye surgery but that i never took them so that she would not worry that i was once again -- >> so you're talking about -- now you're pointing out about the time in may that paul talked about maggie -- or are you talking about a different time? >> i'm not claiming that. that's a fact that happene

i did not kill paul. i would never hurt maggie and i would never hurt paul, ever, under any circumstances. >> thank you. please answer any questions the state may have. >> yes, sir. >> ladies and gentlemen, we'll take a -- >> excuse me, judge. >> we'll take a ten-minute recess. please do not discuss the case. >> more bombshell testimony, about 45 minutes of testimony from alex murdaugh testifying in a walterboro, south carolina, courtroom. let's bring in jean casarez. jean, bombshell in the fact that he's admitted to stealing money from his firm. >> reporter: this was huge. he's charged with many financial crimes and it could lend him to decades in prison. he's not entered a plea in a criminal court for this. when he was asked did you commit financial crimes, stealing from your firm, the answer was, yes, i did. it was plain. it was simple, but it was yes, i did. did you notice his demeanor during the testimony regarding the financial crimes, the stealing of funds meant for victims? he was a civil attorney

paul? >> no, i did not kill paul. >> do you know who did? ir, i do not know who did. >> reporter: a weeks-long trial all boiling down to that central question. >> do you think i killed maggie? >> i have to go where the evidence and the facts lead. >> reporter: this video of alec murdaugh's interrogation now released in court. >> so does that mean that i am a suspect? >> reporter: alec murdaugh, a man whose family was known for its wealth and influence, stands accused of murdering his own wife, maggie, and son, paul. >> i think that just growing up in the low country, knowing how important it is to know your roots, the roots have been ripped apart. >> good morning. >> reporter: now the trial hits day 19. with murdaugh in court listening to expert testimony describing the last moments of his son's life. >> that's over 20-something entrances and exits. i believe it would have hurt him. i believe he would have been in pain. >> right now we're watching the prosecution try and wrap up their case. this is a circumstantial case, but there's still obv

going, as all i can hear is paul going, but the. i don't know what is going on. completely perplexed. that was the some fella at the snoring about some fella at apparently over and they apparently slept over and they all exploded bomb from i think it was world war two and accidentally gone up his rear so got to the and really bad luck in it very this is the true story. yeah. yeah. and it was there. well it's obviously not true that he slipped and fell, but yes, it's true. so that's what he told his, i suspect. and then it was a whole story about things that people put up things that people had put up the bottoms and had to go to a&e. so that was the concise anywhere. to be anywhere. you would have to be childish amused. childish to be amused. fortunately, am very childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. im very childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. letlery childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. let me childish, childish to be amused. fortunathings. let me bring sh, simple things. let me bring my view andrew

i did not kill paul. i would never hurt maggie, and i would never hurt paul ever under any circumstances. >> thank you. >> gentlemen, we'll take a -- excuse me, judge. >> we'll take a ten minute recess, please do not discuss the case. a ten minute recess, please do not discuss the case >> so we are taking a ten-minute recess. i'm katy tur, you're joining us at 3:28 p.m. alex murdaugh, accused of killing his wife and son in a murder that happened in june of 2021, and the big bomb shell that we saw today besides the fact that he took the stand was that the very first thing he said was that he admitted to lying to police and investigators, and pretty much everybody else for 20 months, lying over and over again about where he was on the night of the murder. lying until today when he admitted on the stand, under oath, that he was, in fact, at the dog kennels where his wife and son were murdered, minutes before prosecutors say they were murdered but he says he did not do it. he's adamant about that. joining me n

so i think those are some of the x factors out there. paulappeal to generational change. i think we're going hear a lot of that from a lot of candidates because it's aimed at both donald trump and joe biden. but what about her argument that anybody who's running over 75 for president should take a, essentially, a cognitive test the make sure that they're up to the job? >> well, you know, that's going to appeal to a lot of people, obviously, because folks have been watching joe biden and having some real questions about decline. now, joe biden had his physical this week, the doctor assures us, unsurprisingly, that he is healthy and vigorous and pit, but that is not the question -- and fit, but people are more concerned about his mental capacity at the moment. i mean, this is going to sound good. i think there's no legal way to require such kind of tests or not an easy way to do so, but i wonder if we're going to see some politicians simply because they'd like to make that kind of argument if they're running for president that even if they're n

i. dated paul for a long time. i went to morgan. morgan had an injury to her hand that was bad. she was very upset about mallory. they were working on her. i left her room and went back to paw paw. at some point in time i went to connor's room. i believe those were the only rooms i went to. again, i can't tell you that with certainty. >> while you were wearing the badge did you tell any of the kids in the boat wreck not to cooperate with law enforcement. >> i never told anybody not to cooperate with law enforcement, whether i had a badge hanging out of my pants, didn't have a badge, never did i tell anybody not to cooperate with law enforcement. >> did you become aware in march, april, may of 2021 than an investigation into that night had begun, as well as your conduct? >> i did learn of that. i don't know the status of that investigation being that i've been charged with so many things and haven't been charged with that, i'm assuming that there may not be charges. >> whether or not you were aware it had begun in the spring of 2 2021? >> yes, sir, i was aware -- at some point in

i. paul, i s of these displays because i wanted to give back to the community, which here we have recreation here. if i'm paint we have our tree and anything i've seen, it's a space to share ideas and let the inspiration flow. i've learned so much from sarah. i've learned how to paint, how to draw. when you're here, you're free. you're free to express yourself at the end of the arts is beautiful. in a vibrant city like legacy, it takes a true creative to stand out and bring it even more color to our lives. if you ever visit lagos, to make sure to take some time, to enjoy the art of one young woman has brought to the streets and into people's hearts. i ad freedom park, history comes close to us. it's always a part of our lives. similarly, the people in the city of supplement namibia walked the streets reminded of its colonial pass. local damsel arts as dr. my navy in cub acre a want on texas, and saw on this postal town reminding us way. it's been and how it's evolved. everybody, my name is ro

i think that's the trouble where we are now. >> paul, sprints to qualify for the marathon. hat what we need to do? >> i wouldn't disagree with that. actually i can come with much of what bridge just said. i think rivalry is inevitable, it's structural but i also agree that conflict is not inevitable. i think where i might divert is i think that bridge said we need to be hawkish before we can be dovish. i think wendy need to beis botht the same time.i i fully agree that we need to bolster our defense capabilities with regard come we can come back to the taiwan issue and across the board, i think that can't be toar the exclusion of diplomacy. in fact, i think that's one of the tragic consequences, maybe tragic is too strong a a wordf this balloon episode. i think there was at least an attempt to get some momentum of restoring come reciprocal engagement with the chinese then i think the balloon episode really revealed the strategic mistrust and the hostility on both sides, or the inherent disinclination to be attentive to each other's respective interested in that regard i agre

actually i think i tried to turn paul over first. you know, i tried to turn him over. don't know how i figured it out. his cell phone popped out of his pocket. i started to try to do something with it thinking maybe -- but then i put it back down really quickly. then i went to my wife. and, i mean, i could see -- >> did you touch maggie at all? >> i did. i touched them both. >> okay >> i mean i tried to do it as limited as possible but i tried to take their pulse on both of them. and, you know, i called 911 pretty much right away. and she was very good. i talked to her. i told her i was going to get off the phone to call some family members. i did that. >> what family members did you call? >> i called my brother randy. and i called my brother john. and i tried to call a little boy, real good friend that's right around the corner from here but i didn't get him. >> okay. >> what all was around paul when you walked up? >> blood. >> any other -- anything else? >> i mean, there was some body things, yes, sir. >> i mean like any other evidence? i know you said the phone fell

no, i do not know who did it. did you kill paul? no. i did not kill paul. do we know who did it? i did not know that. i have to go where the evidence and the facts . take me and i don't have anything. that points to anybody else at this time. so does that mean that i am a suspect? murdoch was being questioned for a third time. a few months after the murders. did you consider alex murdock's suspect in the death of his son and his wife? he was the only known suspect at that time. yes defense, pressing that agent getting him to admit they never asked murdoch for those clothes seen in paul's video, even pilgrim abc news, walterboro, south carolina. eva, thank you coming up tooth fairy inflation is the going rate. really 20 bucks. rina for us, remembering a hollywood screen siren how raquel welch sizzled both the big screen and the small screen for more than 50 years. you're watching world news now. the final season february 22nd on fx stream on hulu. no problem. nothing hustle. get behind the modesty screen and dropping. he'll never get away with. this will come home for supper. every

>> i was home, i came home, paul and i messed around., took a nap on the couch probably, i don't know, 25, 30 minutes. i got up, i called maggie, didn't get an answer, and i left to go to my mom's. she said she might ride with me, but she normally doesn't when i go over repeated the lie that you decided? >> was that the moment that i decided? >> was that the moment you decided to lie to mean old dave owen? >> i don't know, as i told you, the exact moment i decided to lie. but at that point in time -- >> you did lie there, obviously. >> i did. >> and she's very good about answering the phone, so that was odd, or calling me back. that was odd but it wasn't that big of a deal. >> we go to the second interview, previously admitted. >> let me ask this before we started. you say that earlier during your direct testimony that after these crimes happened you were around family, family was around you. your law partners were around you, pretty much every minute after that, correct? every waking minute? didn't you say that yesterday? >> yes, they w

>> i would never hurt maggie. >> did you murder paul? >> i would never hurt paul. nder the pressure that they're talking about here, i can promise you, i would hurt myself before i would hurt one of them. without a doubt. >> thank you. that's all the questions i have. >> mr. waters. >> may it please the court. you said that you were concerned when you talked to david owen about the bag of pills in your pocket, correct? >> i mean, no, sir, i don't -- i'm not saying i was concerned about that. i don't think i told you i was concerned about that. i'm just telling you that was -- that was a fact, i had a bag of pills in my pocket and that was one of the many things that came together that night. >> you're trying to tell this jury that as a reasonable husband and father in this situation, concerned about a bag of pills in your pocket was more important to you than telling law enforcement and narrowing the time when you last saw your wife and son alive? that's what you want to convince this jury of? >> no, sir. because, i mean, the bag of pills in my pocket was not what i

do you mind, paul ? well, i call a fireman. do you mind, paul? well, i think we'll get on that. ? well, i think we'll get on that . right well, also, i want that. right well, also, i want to hear your thoughts as if you can get in touch in the usual way. it's gb views at gbnews.uk . or why not tweet me at news. now, our first story, of course, today is the one year old, an anniversary that almost sounds like a celebration of sorts, which it isn't. but it marks one year ago that ukrainian people woke up to missiles raining down on their cities and russian troops and tanks pouring across their borders . now, troops and tanks pouring across their borders. now, amid official that their official predictions that their forces would crumble in days. soldiers and civilian militias alike picked up their weapons and managed not only to halt, but in some cases pushed back the russian invaders. now, they were bolstered by western weapons sport. the weapons and the sport. the ukrainians dog defence of their country continues . but how much country continues. but how much more support should w

and i called paul shaffer and he said yes. >> steve: yeah [ cheers and applause ♪ >> jimmy: paul shaffer's most dangerous band are back at nbc after 30 years i cannot wait. [ cheers and applause i love paul. everyone coming. felicia, anton it's gonna be fantastic. i'm so excited about that. guys, we have a great show for you tonight. he stars in the giant new show "the last of us," which airs sundays on hbo and hbo max and he is hosting "saturday night live" this weekend with musical guest coldplay - pedro pascal is here [ cheers and applause he's a good dude >> steve: a lovely man [ cheers and applause >> jimmy: plus, you can see her in the new movie "ant-man and the wasp: quantumania" which is in features and imax february 17th -- kathryn newton is here tonight [ cheers and applause and we got great music from armani white [ cheers and applause real good. fantastic. history of hip hop this dude -- this guy's gonna be on the list apparently guys, the fda is going to regulate cbd. >> steve: really >> jimmy: yeah, i heard -- yeah and there's a new form of a.i. called chatgpt and then peop

paul says, i absolutely . you. paul says, i absolutely.efighters, they should be given the pay rises that they ask for. however, this one and i will confess, jeff , you're on will confess, jeff, you're on the squad and you make me have goose bumps. you say the following on november 22, on the first day of the fireman strike, my son died in a house fire. would he have survived if professional had attended ? professional had attended? question mark. we shall never know , but be in no doubt that know, but be in no doubt that striking fireman can cost lives and respond briefly to that . and respond briefly to that. well, i need to say, i mean, of course, this is an appalling situation for any family to find themselves in. and obviously your heart goes to people in that position . all i would say that position. all i would say is, as i said at the beginning of the discussion , never of the discussion, never underestimate the fact that firefighters themselves feel intense anxiety and anguish when they withdraw their labour and only ever do it if

i yeah i paul. i mean, i mean is yeah i paul. , what's, what's interesting about this this guy i this stuff is that this guy is i mean, he's also said some the mean, he's also said some of the that said he was he that he said that he was he would be dismayed if one of his sons was gay. he's is someone who loves. benito mussolini. yes. first person wrote yes. first person i wrote actually, like actually, it sounds like something. schaefer would something. louis schaefer would say. he much did . say. yes. and he very much did. so had this conversation so we've had this conversation for then you can go for a second and then you can go on. i want my son to be gay because it will be a victory for me, his mother. okay but that's a very different story about this he's actually, the this he's actually, for the first time, something that is right know, we often right wing. you know, we often use rightwing as as a term to describe anyone who says anything anymore but this is a right wing view. it is a right wing view. it's right now that ev

almost simultaneously with the assassination of paul i , an unsuccessful attempt was made on napoleon to blow him up with the help of an infernal machine, as they said then. the next day after the death of paul , the new emperor alexander sends a gonce to the cossack detachments of atamanov orlov and platov with an order to block the probably tragic death from going to india. more precisely, the assassination of emperor paul prevented the inevitable death 22.000. cossack fees. they were, of course, skilled fighters, desperate fighters who knew how to survive in the most difficult conditions that spring. they would hardly have even reached the afghan border in the detachment , the first frostbite had already begun, there was not enough food for the horses, and besides, who knows how many fighting detachments. the beginning of the campaign caused a very serious reaction in england; special maps were even issued. that's about how much russia is, uh, how aggressively it behaves towards you in the east, that we need to be prepared for the fact that russia can go to our possessions russia w

i yeah i paul. i mean, i mean is yeah i paul. , what's, what's interesting about this this guy i this stuff is that this guy is i mean, he's also said some the mean, he's also said some of the that said he was he that he said that he was he would be dismayed if one of his sons was gay. he's is someone who loves. benito mussolini. yes. first person wrote yes. first person i wrote actually, like actually, it sounds like something. schaefer would something. louis schaefer would say. he much did . say. yes. and he very much did. so had this conversation so we've had this conversation for then you can go for a second and then you can go on. i want my son to be gay because it will be a victory for me, his mother. okay but that's a very different story about this he's actually, the this he's actually, for the first time, something that is right know, we often right wing. you know, we often use rightwing as as a term to describe anyone who says anything anymore but this is a right wing view. it is a right wing view. it's right now that ev

and actually, i think i tried to turn paul over first. um. you know i tried to turn him over.ured it out. his cell phone popped out of his pocket. started try to do something with it. thinking maybe but then i put it pack down really quickly. then i went to my wife. >> did you touch maggie. >> i did. i touched them both. i tried to take -- i tried to do it as limited as possible, tried to take their pulse on both of them. and um, you know, i called 911. umpretty much right away. nancy: well, here is the tricky thing about what he just did right there. he said, hig he came back from his mothers, clocked at 80 miles per hour on the dark two lanes with no lights, he gets back. he says, he comes upon them in the kennel, and he checks them, both of them, paul's cell phone call falls out, he replace its calls 911, he said there but ann emerson, is it not true that later on he could not keep the story straight he said he pulled up, saw the bodies, called 911 he raced over there. and began to attending to the bodies then yet again he is confronted wh with a time line from the navigati

>> i have to go where the evidence and facts -- >> i can't -- you think i killed paul. >> i have to gos take me. and i don't have anything that points to anybody else at this time. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, walterboro, south carolina. >>> moderna says its covid vaccine will remain available for free even when the government stops paying for it in may. the "wall street journal" reported in january that moderna was considering charging up to $130 per vaccine dose when the u.s. public health emergency declaration ends. the company made the new announcement on wednesday the same day that senator bernie sanders called their ceo to testify about the reported price hike. >>> and a medicine for opoid overdoses could become available over the counter in the u.s. on wednesday two fda advisory groups gave the green light to a nasal spray version of the drug caused narcan. the agency's commission has yet to give the final approval. the move could save the lives of overdose victims when professional medical help isn't available. >>> still ahead, chief's chief medical correspondent follows the m