icrc cannot be a grantor for any cease-fire or security related to those safe packages. >> so, mirella, there are reports right now of russia mining, putting mines along the escape routes in mariupol. is there evidence of that? >> we haven't seen -- we're in discussion with both parties. for the time being, of course there is violence everywhere. hostilities are everywhere. we need to be very clear on the routings. these convoys will take so civilians can take where the hostilities are very active like in mariupol and other plates and that they are safe doing that. so safe package is mandatory under international humanitarian law, and both parties would need to agree on providing safe package to civilians leaving those areas. . >> all right. mirella, thank you so much. we appreciate you being with us as we're talking about what civilians are enduring to escape. >>> 19,000 anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles have been sent to ukraine. is that going to be enough? cozy and precocious. with 465 fresh, clean, craveable pairings, find a you pick 2 for any mood. enjoy a 1 dollar delivery fee

the number from the icrc is fte country.de the people who are misplaced and waiting it out here courtney >> molly, stay safe. >>> to washington. as congress weighs steps to ban russian oil in the west, lawmakers are looking to take the steps further and restrict overall trade. ylan mui has latest from washington good morning, ylan >> reporter: good morning, courtney momentum is building on capitol hill to step up the fight against russia under a new bipartisan agreement, congress would ban oil and gas imports from russia and end normal trade relations with russia and belarus and raise tariffs and call for ru russia's remove al from the wto. this was a deal struck by the committees that oversee trade. they said the goal is to send a message to putin that war is unacceptable they are still finalizing the text of the bill it could go to the house floor today. congress is raising to authorize emergency raid to ukraine and fund the u.s. government before it runs out of money this week chuck schumer expects to send $12 billion to

this is only from the russian side we have not heard from the ukrainians, the icrc, the neutral party which brokers deals like this or from the city councils mentioned there will be a ceasefire in kyiv, mariupol, kharkiv and s sumi they have laid out humanitarian corridors. they have laid out routes. but in their statement they even say the ukrainians haven't agreed to these routes cease-fires work when both parties decide on all of the perfect specifics. and as you mentioned, the two ceasefires that were announced by both sides over the weekend broke down very quickly because of russian shelling. but we will be chasing the ukrainians and the icrc for any confirmation that this might actually go into effect this morning. >> meantime, the russian forces have been slowly making their way to the capital we know of that convoy that has been stalled what do we know about their progress now >> yeah, very little progress of that convoy. it has been about 15 miles outside of the capital of kyiv for the last week. it is 40 miles long. apparently dodged by supply issue, fuel, logistical issues

so the needs are huge, and for the icrc, it's very important to start responding. we started in mariupol and kyiv. mariupol, we visited shelters yesterday to distribute some food and essential hygiene items and water for more than 4,000 disp displaced people. in kyiv, we're giving medical equipment to hospitals much needed for trauma surgery, burns, gunshot wounds, et cetera. but it's very important also, security permitting, to be able to expand. we're already working in several locations in the east, but now that the conflict has spread, it's very important that humanitarian organizations like the icrc are given -- are allowed to actually access the zones and the people most in need right now in ukraine. >> is there any indication at this point that the russians may not allow to you have access to the areas which they control? >> we are in talks with all parties concerned to be able to access those regions. we also call on everyone to give safe passage to civilians who want to flee the area as well they are in. this is an obligation for the parties under internat

needs, by way we don't have currently on a office in rostov and regarding the allegations that the icrc, any displacement of civilian population should happen with the consent of civilians and on their free will, so the icr, with the consent of civilians and on theirfree will, so the icr, and this is by the way contrary to the geneva convention so we can not accept and we clearly deny these alleged claims. but accept and we clearly deny these alleged claims.— accept and we clearly deny these alleged claims. but do you want to set u- an alleged claims. but do you want to set up an office — alleged claims. but do you want to set up an office in _ alleged claims. but do you want to set up an office in rostov? - alleged claims. but do you want to set up an office in rostov? yes, i set up an office in rostov? yes, this is part _ set up an office in rostov? yes, this is part of — set up an office in rostov? yes, this is part of our _ set up an office in rostov? yes, this is part of our also _ set up an office in rostov? yes, this is part of our also presence | set up an office in rostov? yes

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the icrc tweeted that it failed to evacuate some 200,000 civilians out of the city of mariupol' when safe passage there was halted for the second-consecutive day. the ukrainians say because of russian shelling. the ukrainian interior ministry releasing video monday, showing civilians stuck in mariupol'. unable to leave ukraine because of the shelling and the violence, and many running out of food and other supplies. the icrc says there is an urgent need for a functioning agreement to allow their safe passage out, and aid in. >> the situation in mariupol' today is devastating. people are increasingly desperate. our team remains today in mariupol' under the most difficult of circumstances. and stands ready to help if an agreement is reached. however, in order to do so, they need necessary security to operate. and to all those who are affected by the conflict in ukraine today, please hear that we do everything in our power to help. >> well, ukraine's foreign ministry says russia, meanwhile, sabotaging efforts to create safe humanitarian corridors it had agreed to. in a third round of ta

i am certainly committed with the icrc to have as objective . with the icrc to have as objective as possibled here, never always different— kyiv and here, never always different of international law. he is different of international law. is talking different of international law. he: is talking in that clip about the different interpretations of international law but the targeting of maternity hospitals in mariupol, of maternity hospitals in mariupol, of theatres where we know women and children are seeking shelter, is not open to interpretation? the tar: etinu open to interpretation? the targeting of— open to interpretation? tue targeting of hospitals open to interpretation? tte targeting of hospitals and civilian infrastructure is not open to interpretation, it creates senseless suffering and it is a direct attack on the livelihood and economic basis of a country, which we have to prevent. 50 of a country, which we have to revent. , :, prevent. so if you were meeting seruei prevent. so if you were meeting sergei lavrov — prevent. so if you were meeting sergei lavrov in _ prevent. so if you

>> hey ali, well we just heard from the icrc, a call for both sides to reach a functioning and detailedsays, that is what it is missing here. that evacuation agreement needs to include the following, the specific time, locations, evacuation routes, and other logistical details. the people who maybe voluntarily evacuated, and whether the agreement also allows assistance to be brought into cities, noting that the icrc is not and cannot be in any way a guarantor of a cease-fire agreement, or of its implementation. fighting continues with ukrainians and russians blaming each other for the shelling that is putting lives in danger. it is, as you say, a desperate situation for 200,000 people trapped in mariupol right now, with no connection to the outside world. i was speaking yesterday to one woman. her parents are stuck there. she went away on holiday. the war broke out. and, she's been unable to contact them since. the last time she spoke to her mother, her mother told her that she was covid positive and was in needed medication. then, communication cuts. she does not know would happen next

but we have seen video of icrc buses, people loading up and leaving the town of sumy going west into ukraine. as we discussed yesterday, the other russian proposals for green humanitarian corridors led citizens out to russia and belarus, to the ukrainian side that was just not an option to send ukrainian civilians of course into russian territory. >> while they're working on that the pentagon is describing russia as frustrated there are now reports that russia is recruiting outside help. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. so there was a wall street journal report earlier this week that said moskow was now going to recruit foreign fighters from syria skilled in urban combat. reporters asked the pentagon about this yesterday pentagon spokesperson john kirby said there was some, quote, truth to that reporting. we know this as it comes -- excuse me -- as 100% of russian forces are either at the border or in ukraine. >> thank you, molly, thank you so much for the update >> the humanitarian crisis in ukraine gets worse by the hour it's already estimated to have created 1.7 million refugees s

it says the icrc will oversee pows, civilians and the like and we've had the icrc making the rounds.lavrov to start talking about how this is going to work in the future. but as we move forward in this conflict, the more folks that are abducted by russian soldiers along the black coast, for example, the more soldiers that are captured by ukrainian army, these are basically going to be part of future negotiations. it will be part of ceasefire negotiations, but it will also be part of what we will see in the future, which is large number prisoner swaps, alicia. >> dasha, the world has been just absolutely absorbed by the fate of these ukrainian refugees, just today, a widely circulated photo shows a child holding a loaf of bread among long humanitarian corridors from mariupol. you have been there with some of these refugees. can you tell us what they're saying, how they're doing? >> reporter: you know, alicia, when you visit any of the many, many places where folks are taking refuge here in poland, you witness the power of resilience and generosity. the resilience of those taking refug

and every single day it has failed civilians have not been able to get out of that city reports from icrc and other organizations that have been in contact with people say the situation is dire. most people are out of water, food, there's no medicine. most people out of electricity, there's absolutely no heat as we talked about earlier it's 23 degrees where i am. it's even colder in the southeast of the country >> i hope they get that aid and the opportunity to leave >>> more than 2.3 million people have now fled from ukraine since the russia invasion started. that's according to the u.n. and that stream of refugees continues this morning nbc's jay gray at that border crossing in poland how have things changed since we last spoke to you around 24 hours ago now? >>> they desperately need clothes, jackets i want you to take a look at how pl plentiful the donations are. the horrific sounds of war, bombs and bullets, evidence of the silence from negotiators, peace talks between russia and ukraine collapsing with the battle escalating along with the number of foreign fighters pushing toward th

interior, from the city council, from the mayors of these cities we also hasn't heard anything from the icrc. the red cross facilitates these humanitarian headquarters. we should say yesterday and the day before, a similar ceasefire with humanitarian corridors failed because of russian shelling >> i want to ask you president zelenskyy has specifically had leaders to send the country fighter jets is he getting any closer to getting that >> that's on topics of debate in international diplomatic levels right now. according to a white house spokesperson, the white house is in talks with poland in a deal where basically poland could give its soviet-era mig fighter jets to ukraine and purchase much newer versions f-16s from the u.s. >> watching that and the potential for a ceasefire. molly, thank you >>> well, the civilian toll is mounting as hundreds of ukrainians try desperately to escape the shelling from russian forces our tom llamas is in ukraine with the latest. >> reporter: in ukraine, another prospect of peace shattered. plans for a ceasefire to evacuate civilians collapsed for the second

but for an update on their humanitarian efforts, we can speak to anita dullard, a spokeswoman for icrcic hub in bangkok. it is wonderful to have you on the programme, anita. i can imagine it is such a fluid situation right now as we have been seeing for the reporting that my colleagues have been doing on the ground in that area. what are some of the most urgent priorities for people that you are trying to get out of ukraine at the moment? figs you are trying to get out of ukraine at the moment?— you are trying to get out of ukraine at the moment? as you sake of the situation is — at the moment? as you sake of the situation is changing _ at the moment? as you sake of the situation is changing hour— at the moment? as you sake of the situation is changing hour by - at the moment? as you sake of the situation is changing hour by hour. | situation is changing hour by hour. and we have seen the casualty rates rising and hospitals are really struggling to cope. many ukrainians do not have access to water, they don't have electricity in there is mental connectivity across the country by phone.

anita dullard, a spokeswoman for icrc from their asia—pacific hub in bangkok, updated us on the work now. the situation is changing hour by hour. and we're seeing the casualty rates rising, and hospitals are really struggling to cope. many ukrainians do not have access to water, they don't have electricity and there's minimal phone connectivity across the country. so, people sheltering for hours on end, they're worried about going outdoors because of the shelling and the fighting. and that means that they're having difficulty having access to food and other necessities. we're getting calls to our centre for people who are wounded seeking assistance, from those who are desperately seeking solutions to leave the country or who've lost contact with their family and are desperately really seeking information about how to find them and to reconnect. some of our main priorities over the last days have been in mariupol to provide food and other essentials to people who have been displaced in our living in shelters, together with the ukrainian red cross, and we've also been providing war wou

ukrainians set up new cease-fire proposals with safe corridors heading west to where i am the icrc, theon the ground has been brokering the proposals. they are trying to get both sides to agree for a cease-fire to be successful, both sides have to agree on location and who is allowed out and exactly the route of the humanitarian corridor everyone is trying to make their safety to the west or out of the country or stay here as a displaced person to ride it out before they can go home. back to you. >> very good molly, thank you nbc's molly hunter in lviv, ukraine. >>> shorting russia may have seemed like a lucrative trade, but with the exchange halted, a lot of people are stuck in positions. leslie picker has more on that leslie >> reporter: becky, you think shorting russia would be profitable with the stocks in free fall before the markets shutdown as you mentioned, short sellers were actually in russian companies up $723 million in market-to-market profit year to date according to s3 partners. it is difficult for short sellers to crystalize the profits. some are stuck in the positions u

staying in an underground bunker, they have managed to bring people from the city into the bunker, the icrcnd they are saying many parents are reporting they are running out of food for their children. so the situation is desperate, bodies lying in the streets, thousands of bodies we are hearing lying in the streets, and nowhere to bury them, hearing about mass graves so a very desperate situation and reports in the last hour that the eastern outskirts of the city have been taken over by russian forces and many people say once mariupol falls it really is a doom situation because it could cut of this country from the sea, this is in many ways a country that a lot of trade takes place from the southern ports in odesa and mariupol so there is concerns makes the country landlocked president zelensky says about 1300 ukrainian troops have been killed since the start of russia's invasion. he told journalists in kyiv that far larger numbers of russian soldiers had died — perhaps ten times as many, but those figures can't be verifed. as russian forces continued to shell kyiv, mr zelensky said they'd

any attack on icrc staff associated with the red cross are protected by international law. the red cross says in order for a cease-fire to be successful, it needs three conditions, specific time and location and evacuationers need to be decided. the people who are voluntarily evacuated. our understanding this morning there is going to be humanitarian aid going in while people come out. we have asked the mariupol officials about this. they say there is a humanitarian cargo, a truck going in, it is on its way and it has not arrived in mariupol yet. the red cross said about 3,000 people got out. everyone is trying to get to the west of the country. 1.5 million people have left the country. not everyone wants to leave. we spoke with a woman yesterday one of the many idps, internally displaced people. she wants to stay. she believes in her country. take a quick listen to what she had to say. >> you are not leaving the country, you are staying here? so jonathan in lviv where i am, we are expecting more people in evacuation of humanitarian core contador from mariupol. there are pe

i've been speaking today to the president of the international committee of the red cross, the icrc, to ease the suffering, not just in mariupol, but across the country, is a ceasefire, a peace deal. and yes, we are getting reports from ukrainians and from russians today that they are making progress, but there are still many differences. they talk of a concrete plan that may soon be signed, but there are so many red lines for russia, so many red lines for ukrainians, and the loudest words we are getting about this war is the words of war, unfolding on the ground. words of war, unfolding on the round. , , ., ~ words of war, unfolding on the round. i, ., ,, i, words of war, unfolding on the round. i, ., i, . ground. lyse, thank you, lyse doucet re-rortin ground. lyse, thank you, lyse doucet reporting from _ ground. lyse, thank you, lyse doucet reporting from care. _ the us president, joe biden, has announced a further $800 million of military aid to ukraine. it comes after its president, volodymyr zelensky, used a rare live address to the us congress to make an emotional appeal for mo

there are seven evacuation routes that have been agreed with the icrc facilitatfacilitag every single day, families in mariupol have woken thinking maybe today is the day the corridor works and the cease-fire holds and they can get out. we have no evidence of citizens getting out of mof mariupol. i'm in lviv. the destination for anyone fleeing the east it is the departure point for anyone getting out of the country to poland. as you mentioned, 2 million people have gotten out of the country. people want to stay and want to try to wait it outl as well brian. >> from what i understand, molly, some of the men or all of the men are required to stay is there an operating airport? is getting out reliant on hoping you can drive or walk across the border >> reporter: that's right. any fighting aged men over teenage and above are staying. that means everyone i'm meeting in lviv, mothers and very young children the only way out is to catch the train in lviv and take a short train to the border and then walk and wait in line. it is 25 degrees fahrenheit. it is freezing s they have to wait in lin

the way the temporary cease-fires are supposed to work is the icrc brokers the talks, and humanitariani civilians get out. people are waiting in mariupol and they are waiting to pick up women and children and elderly and that has not happened. dom. >> thank you, molly. stay safe. >>> back to the market attention turns to the federal reserve. jay powell and the central bank with the latest two-day policy meeting today with the ex expectation of the unwinding of the stimulus letefforts. signs of the economy slowing down and continued record high inflation. the question now appears to be how aggressive the fed will be with all of its unwinding efforts. for more let's bring in priya from td securities priya, the fed has to do what it has to do. are the markets prepared for it? what have they priced in >> the markets pricing in the 25 basis point hike tomorrow, we expect that we priced in almost seven hikes. 25 basis points, so six more after tomorrow, have been priced in then another two next year i would say the market pricing is fairly in terms of the fed hiking cycle the question is is

the sufferings of mariupol must not become the future of ukraine , as spoken by the icrc president currentlyine. the plan a vladimir putin is to violate the agreements on cease fire and safe passage for the civilian population from the temporarily occupied territories. yesterday russian troop's shelled a convoy of civilian vehicles headed from mariupol to [indiscernible] and the plan was previously approved. to terrorize local residents who remain in the territories seized by russian troops. small villages where the russian soldiers suffer the most. breaking into houses, throwing people into the streets, taking their food. eyewitness reports of tortures, abductions of local officials, and even extrajudicial killings coming from the occupied territories. forcing ukrainians to flee their homes as refugees has also been a part of this style of plan. almost three point 2 million refugees have fled ukraine so far. against the backdrop of the increasingly aggravated humanitarian situation, russia has yet to draft a humanitarian resolution for the security council. an appeal by a serial killer to t

about the last ten days it has been surrounded residents there, 450,000 residents, according to the icrclectricity or heat or food. we have been tracking that city for the last 48 hours. the roads are treacherous and blocked by russian troops. our information this morning is they are 50 miles out of the c city cargo including medicine and water and food for some of the people to continue to survive. once that convoy gets to the city, they hope the civilians can get on the vehicles and get out of the humanitarian are corridor there is no confirmation they will reach the city. dom. >> thank you for the update. >>> to china and another developing story officials placing the port city of shenzhen on lockdown for the next week in the effort to stem a growing covid-19 outbreak. with apple supplier foxconn and a dozen other companies halting production the city of 17.5 million people is a big manufacturing hub and lynch pin in the global supply chain. eunice yoon has more from beijing. eunice, this could provide a brea breaking, if you will, on the global economy at the worst possible time. tak

heard from the red cross 3,000 people have gotten out of irpine our understanding is that from the icrceople civilians will get on those same buses and trucks and try to make their way out of mariupol. frank? >> molly, a lot to talk about. a key southern port, the city of mariupol under constant siege. what can you tell us >> reporter: yeah. we've been talking about it all week civilians have not been able to get out. at least 200,000 civilians are in dire need of safe passage, living without electricity, without water, without any heat. like i mentioned, our understanding is there is humanitarian aid going in. yesterday there were reports that humanitarian cargo corridor was fired upon, but if it all goes according to plan, if the russians do not shell that civilian passageway this morning, there should be civilians getting on the buses and trucks heading out of mariupol i've got to say, everyone. all the humanitarian corridors putting people in the north central/east central part of the country. they want to get west where i am this is where the relative safety is and where the bounci

they had people and it's like the icrc.or is doing a few interviews and very brave associate press journalists were broadcasting images to the world. these are the first people and it was the first day that thousands of cards lined up. not humanitarian corridor. out of mariupol, it's failed every day. but nourn private vehicles drove out through about 17 check points and out of that city and we were able to speak to uyia and her mother also named ulia. >> and talk about how their weapon always shoots where they need be. like, they only shoot at military. i suppose this by my house, they were soldiers. they were sleeping there at that time. and she's targeting civilians. they described the situation and no water, electricity, fired. and they start reporting as they put one together. >> thank you for all your reporting. it's just been so extraordinary. and former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. ambassador, you were nodding your head as she was describing what's happening in another part of the interview i saw last night from moll

we are chasing the icrc for any confirmation they have been brokers between the parties. the weekend in mariupol were shut down with shelling continues. >> ukraine is not interested in sending citizens to belarus or russia will russia honor anything about the humanitarian corridors in other areas? >> reporter: ukraine not interested in what amounts to a state kidnapping to send people into enemy territory they have sent back proposals which layout routes which go west to the safety of the western part of the country. we will look to russia's recent military past when you look at certify syria and the cease-fires they agreed to. it was an opportunity for the russian forces to regroup and rearm and plan the next offenses s offenses they broke both cease-fires in syria. there are a lot of civilians in mariupol which need to get to safety >> molly, you are in lviv. it seems like most of the offensive is focused on the southern and central part of the country. what is it like where you are? >> reporter: absolutely. they are surrounding kyiv. we talked about that convoy around

. >> we have pictures of an icrc warehouse in mariupol after it was bombed.ou tell us what happened there. clearly has a reds cross on the roof. >> so, that is our warehouse. it's along the water in mariupol. this is where we've been storing the humanitarian goods we've been giving out. the warehouse was empty when it was struck because the situation has been so desperate for so long that we've already given out the food and medical assistance items we have to share. we just learned about this imagery yesterday and we don't really have more details about it because our team hadn't visited the warehouse since march 15th. so, don't know the extent of the damage and if there were any associated casualties. there weren't any red cross casualties. of course, it's clearly our position that medical facilities should not, cannot be attacked. a humanitarian building such as this red cross warehouse should not, cannot be attacked and it's a sad sith tae -- sith sight tasy. >> and coming up next with the baser cub with can vid cases going done. poshing it utof the can v

long plan is that a whole host of organizations, including the entire red cross family, not only the icrc but now individual red cross associations and each one of these countries also working with the entire u.n. system, there's a huge international architecture that is able to respond to this, unhcr, to name one human organization, will be putting these plans in place and finding places to stay. i live in geneva, switzerland, and we have a neighbors and friends right across the border and i can tell you that families even this far away are now welcoming ukrainians into their homes, so you're seeing this replicated all across europe, but i couldn't summarize for you how large of an undertaking it is, but i think together we're making a point. >> talk to me about the situation on the ground. the u.n. estimating nearly 1,000 civilians killed. you have teams on the ground inside ukraine as well. what type of correspondence are you getting from them from what they're seeing and experiencing? >> well, there's just an overall sense of panic, of course. and the people who are there in places li

what's interesting is they're not getting out on humanitarian buses or icrc convoys even though the humanitarianen discussed and agreed and according to ukrainian officials it has been agreed today. what's happening is people are getting in civil yar cars lining up by the thousands, getting out of mire yew poll and getting on trains and coming to the west of lviv where they feel safer. >> it's nice to hear there is a place where they're feeling more safe. thank you. >>> coming up, messaging versus munitions. ukraine may be outmatched on the battlefield but it is winning the information war and why that matters. >>> as we go to break, footage circulating online appears to show a man in military uniform playing the ukrainian national anthem to his fellow soldiers. ♪♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [copy machine printing] ♪ ♪ who would've thought printing... could lead to growing trees. ♪ welcome to ameriprise. i'm sam morrison, my brother max recommended you. so my best friend sophie says you've been a huge help. at ameriprise financial, more than 9 out of 10 of our clients are likely to recommend us. ou

the icrc offered to help. this would be a glimmer of hope for an untold number of civilians who have been trapped in a deadly war zone for a month. >> ivan, thank you for that. >>> this morning, ukraine made talks. ben wedeman with more on this. ben, they're still talking. >> mixed messages. zelenskyy saying it's so far words without any concrete action, but his chief of staff is saying there is, he has a small portion of optimism then that the talks look like a dialogue. they are going to resume talks, not face-to-face as they were in istanbul on tuesday, but rather, via video conference. so this is, i don't know how many rounds it has taken so far of these negotiations, but they really haven't accomplished much at this point. ukrainians from the president on down don't have a lot of faith in russian good intentions. and of course, tomorrow when those talks resume online is april fools. kate? >> ben, thank you. >>> in a couple hours, president biden make a big announcement to try to lower gas prices by tappin

they want it to be organized with the icrc, the red cross, and the united nations high commissioner for there is the chance that more people could emerge on friday. there is a wrinkle to this story, wolf, and that is that the leader of one of the russian-backed separatist regions in the east of the country has announced that he is going to be setting up his own administration to govern mariupol which has a number of complicating factors. first, as you mentioned, there are still around 100,000 plus ukrainian civilians believed to be trapped in paimariupol, that one, and two, ukrainian troops still are controlling part of the city and fighting deadly battles against far greater russian numbers of military there. and then the third thing is if, in fact, he does want to create an administration there, it does look like the first step towards trying to annex mariupol, to a proxy of russia in ukraine, that fits a pattern we've seen in the past here, certainly, with the occupation and annexation of crimea of 2014. >> okay, careful over there, ivan, thanks very much. now, to another war-ravaged

and nato are discussing is a possible no-fly zone over humanitarian corridors established by the icrc, the international red cross if putin ever allows them to be established. so far as mike reported, those efforts have broken down, gillian. gillian: jennifer, with the no-fly zone, we heard that would reduce risk of military confrontation between u.s. and russia. talk to us about that and as i understand it, there are still considerable risks involved with setting up a corridor like that? jennifer: i don't know how you could say that u.s. or nato war planes wouldn't face a threat from russian war planes or antiaircraft missiles on the ground. it's a very chaotic battle space as well as air space is still contested. no side has air superiority and as we have seen the russians have gone back and fired artillery shells on humanitarian corridors that they agreed to set up twice before. so i think while it is noble to talk about how to set up humanitarian corridors and perhaps fly planes to escort those humanitarian aid workers in and out and people in and out, i think it's pretty far off,

from the russians, russians honoring that agreement both on the ground and in moscow, then also the icrc the international red cross setting up those humanitarian corridors. all of that is going to take time. but i cannot see u.s. a warplanes flying over ukraine the confliction zone but with the various russian warplanes you cranium warplanes flying it is a pretty chaotic environment. i have not heard of any serious plans here at the pentagon to set up such a quarter but i do know the diplomats are trying to explore such an option for. >> alright jennifer griffin griffin at the pentagon thanks so much. >> more than ukraine refugees fleeing the country's russian forces shout major ukrainian cities with many of them flowing across poland's a border in search of safety. alex hogan is alive in poland with more details hello alex. >> hi mike this is poland where a makeshift refugee center has been made inside of a massive warehouse. people are bumped in and when they find out somewhere where they can go they bus dicey people are holding up their children think i want to get on this bus. there

i know the icrc is calling for more funding for humanitarian aid.ee countries step up and do? what more do you feel is needed in this moment? >> well, the people who are managing to leave the country, there are obviously a lot of concerns for all of those people to finally find a safe place and have all the things that they need most, what we see is also, like, inside the city, like extreme need. and i was mentioning those people who managed to leave sumy today, they leave with a small bag and little supply, maybe water, a few clothes, their papers, and that's basically it, so they leave with a lot of questions. we have a lot of concerns about, like, what all their life they are leaving behind them, and they don't know exactly what they are going to find in the next place, so it's important to be able, of course, to support the people who are able to go outside of ukraine, but there are also millions of people right now inside the city who continue to be in basements, sheltering, people who are on the move, people who are in collective shelters who

you mentioned in your open yesterday, the icrc says they were able to evacuate 3,000 civilians. today they were planning to do the same when russian shelling hit the exact location. they knew civilians were going to be evacuated and we heard confirmation from the mayor of that city. that's kyiv suburb, that eight people were killed including a family of four. again, all of these people from mariupol are trying to flee the east getting to relative safety of the west. alex, the fear here is the war moves west. >> of course, mollie, thank you for that comprehensive report. stay warm, my friend. i know how hard it is to be out in the cold reporting like that. >>> the president is facing pressure from lawmakers to block russian oil. sahil is in washington. they pushed back on the request. what about today? it seems like a bit of a shift in tune. >> reporter: that's right, alex, this is a shift from the white house which a few days ago knocked down the idea of banning imports from russia. it would force americans to pay higher prices at the pump. now the united states says that calcul

you need vladimir putin and president zelenskyy to negotiate with a third party, icrc, the commissioner country to come in and negotiate humanitarian corridors with cease-fires that are honored. at this point russia is shelling. they're saying they have a cease-fire but a few hours later they'll start shooting people. you see them shooting women and children with their suitcases that have been escaping. so this is an outrage. that is why i told secretary of state blinken while we were in poland that the number one most immediate need is to provide cover and humanitarian safe zone so that the humanitarian, the aid can go in, the patients can come out and those that are noncombatant, women, children, disabled, elderly and the sick can evacuate before it's too late. >> congressman, can this be done? zelenskyy's been asking over and over again for a no-fly zone. is that something that maybe the world community could do? >> one, we need to make sure that they have the equipment to protect their skies. and so that way it won't be -- it will be more difficult for russia to bomb from the skies.

amid the war in ukraine with all the civilian targeting by russians, more as the president of the icrcand, out in front a train station along the poland border and phil mattingly in warsaw at this hour. you've been covering the refugee crisis, what will he see as he meets with refugees tomorrow? >> he will get a scope of how dramatic the refugee crisis is as more than 3 million people have escaped from ukraine. the vast majority, more than 2 million of those in poland. you know, here it is approaching 1:00 in the morning and you can see how this is still the number of people looking to take trains further into europe and this is a scene that even though the number of refugees that we are seeing here in poland has slowed down quite a bit in the last week, but there are still a large number of people coming through, looking for places of safe haven in europe, and the what the president is going to hear from many of these people is the ordeals they've been through, hearing in recent days about journeys in eastern europe especially around kyiv, taking close to five days to get here to the

in the meantime, we're working urgently with the government of ukraine and the icrc to create civilians to get out of city and to allow food medicine and other vital supplies to get in. russia's attack created this humanitarian crisis. now all countries have a responsibility to pressure the kremlin to alleviate some of the misery that is has wrought. of all of the consequences of moscow's unprovoked attack, one of the most unexpected is the spark it has lit in people around the world who have come out to demonstrate for the freedom for the rights of ukrainians. that includes valiant individuals in places where protesting the kremlin's war means risking arrest, beatings or worse. as thousands of russians and belarusians have done. for years we've seen the dangerous tide rolling back democracy and human rights and undercutting the rules based order. fueled in no small part by moscow. with this brutal invasion, we, our european allies and partners and people everywhere are being reminded of just how much is at stake. now we see the tide of democracy rising to the moment. with that, i'm hap

of course, we call -- official sources of information from the un, icrc. who provide humanitarian assistance. please, ukrainian people. the people of europe stand with us. stand with the rule of law. and do not be subjected to manipulation from the russian federation. >> thank you. so much for being on the show. before we leave, i just want to give you the opportunity, if there's anything else that you would like to see to western leaders. your the voice of ukraine for us this morning. so, what would your message be? >> my message would be that, the spf brief as ukrainians. and utilize each and every minute of your time. we're keeping on the piece on your land. to make sure that the aggressor and the terrorists is stopped. we deserve it as a nation. we deserve it as a people. and we all deserve it as europe. >> thank you so much for being on the program this morning. you're an incredibly powerful voice for your country. it's been very ported to listen to. thank you. >> thank you. as we just heard, it's more important than ever to try and get this clear pic

there are 64 nongovernmental organizations, 21 other organizations like the icrc and iom.aine. so the scale up has gone well, the access is a challenge, because russia, again, is trying to use, food water, medicine as an additional weapon of this savage war. our approach as u.s. aid in the u.s. government to support some of those actors i just mentioned, is to have them get food, medicine, water into the country, above all. into kyiv, into places that have not been encircled, knowing that ukrainian volunteers are not only volunteering for military service, that are very eager to be part of this new humanitarian ban card that is then navigating checkpoints and security violence, shelling to try to reach those parts of the country that have been really hard to access, we also have convoys that i've managed to reach some of the besieged areas because there has been a little bit of food and medicine allowed in. but again, you can just tell, in places like mariupol, this strategy is to use the civilians to press the government to surrender, and of course they civilians and gove

the icrc, it's supposed to be overseeing this. and the numbers are just incredible. today president zelenskyy said it could be possible up to 16,000 russian troops are dead. that is definitely a high estimate. nato puts it between 7000 and 14,000. we know based on that they're probably thousands of prisoners of war, and you can expect large-scale exchanges to become part of the negotiations. and to become part of what we see every day in this conflict, stephanie. >> cal perry, thank you for joining. us with, that i want to bring our experts in. -- a decorated u.s. military veteran with over 20 years experience in the army and navy. he is now the national executive director for the -- peter baker. spent years as them -- closely watching the rise of putin. now he's the chief white house correspondent for -- former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon. jason, i want to go to you first. starting with russia. scaling back -- on its face, really good news. but the former ambassador to russia, michael -- had a bit of a reality check earlier. watch this. >> on the one

ali, we've been in touch with icrc who has staff inside of that city. we were getting audio clips last week and we have not heard from them. we are following up to see if they heard from their team and because of no 3g, no coverage, no electricity to even charge their devices. but, you're right, 14 new corridors. we've seen no evidence that the humanitarian convoys that have been trying to get into there with life-saving aid. the good news we just saw pictures, ali, of 20 buses out of bouchia dropping people off into 9 city getting food and much-needed medical supplies. but here in lviv, the western part of the city, we are following a different kind of humanitarian corridor. this morning we're at a specialist children's hospital. we've been speaking to families there. these are some of the most vulnerable children in the entire country. today the hospital coordinated an evacuation for dozens of families and little kids to head to the polish border to the next stop on their journey out. ali, take a look. >> we meet 7-year-old sofia four days after she w

in the meantime, we are working urgently with the government of ukraine, the icrc, and others to crete humanitarian corridors that will civilians to get out of ukraine's besieged cities and allow food, medical and other supplies to get in. now all countries have a responsibility to pressure the kremlin to alleviate at least some of the misery that it has wrought. of all the consequences of moscow's unprovoked attack, one of the most unexpected is the spark it has lit in people around the world who have come out to demonstrate for freedom for the rights of ukrainians. that includes valiant individuals in places where protesting the kremlin's war means risk arrest, beatings, or worse, as thousands of russians have done. for years, we've seen the dangerous tide rolling back democracy and human rights and undercutting the human-based order, fueled in no small part by moscow. with this brutal invasion, we, our european partners and allies everywhere are being reminded just how much is at stake. now we see the tide of democracy rising to the moment. with that, i'm happy to take some question

part of these humanitarian corridors and part of the agreement that the icrc has brokered is that humanitarian aid goes into these areas, civilians come out. we have just learned that there is a huge humanitarian cargo convoy that has left and gotten more than halfway to mariupol. if all goes according to plan, it should arrive in mariupol tomorrow. there's a lot of very, very cautious hope that that might deliver much-needed medicine and water and basic food supplies. every single humanitarian convoy that's been headed to mariupol this week has gotten attacked or shelled by russian forces. you did mention in your open that president zelenskyy has been speaking today. i want to share another little excerpt of what he said with your viewers. take a listen. >> reporter: now, information about russian casualties, information that is certainly not getting back to the majority of russia. we did hear on the casualty front from the mayor of mariupol that 10,000 people in that ukrainian besieged city have been killed in the last two weeks. the real number, many fear, is much, much higher. >> understan

observance of this bilateral dialogue to avoid losing time while people are suffering, so we hope that the icrcement reached bilaterally between officials both on ukrainian and russian sides. that was the ukrainian deputy prime minister. some developing newsnow, yesterday, the israeli prime minister was in moscow meeting with vladimir yesterday, the israeli prime minister was in moscow meeting with vladimir putin, yesterday, the israeli prime minister was in moscow meeting with vladimir putin, the yesterday, the israeli prime minister was in moscow meeting with vladimir putin, the diplomacy yesterday, the israeli prime minister was in moscow meeting with vladimir putin, the diplomacy has not stopped, even though there has been a lot of pressure to isolate russia, and all the sanctions that have been imposed and very tough words coming from nato and joe biden, the us president we've seen the us secretary of state antony blinken touring the region, assuring his unity with other nato members and also speaking in solidarity with volodymyr zelensky, ukraine's president. in the last few minutes we ha

to another coastal city, and increasingly dangerous because of the city's location, and there are icrc buss to take them to another area where the train station is where they can move more west to safety. >> and tell us about where you are. which i believe is in the southwestern portion of ukraine, and i assume a destination for those who are fleeing war-ravaged pieces of the nation. give us a sense as to what the situation is there. >> reporter: yes, that's exactly right, jonathan. don't let this picture background fool you. no one here pretends there isn't a war going on. and it is irreconcilable, it is surreal to talk about the hell that people pass through to get here and this beautiful mountain town. this is where it has been a refuge for refugees fleeing from war for centuries, world war one and world war two and they are defending the previous waves of refugees, and they are welcoming and opening their doors and feeding the newest arrivals. oksana 38, she and her husband and two kids fled from irpin, the suburb out of kyiv and left two weeks ago and described the terrifying jour

the icrc is also reporting that people are living in absolute terror in the strategic port town, city country. they said today's attempt to evacuate 200,000 people from that city has failed and that to the failed attempt underscores the absence of a detailed and functioning agreement between the parties of this conflict. let's get more on the ongoing fighting and conflict around the country from our chief international correspondent. been a barrage of shelling just 15 miles north of kyiv in a humanitarian corridor to allow people to flee from the besieged town. we saw heart—rending scenes it there yesterday of people just fleeing in droves. elderly women holding their shopping bags. people with dogs and their arms carrying their children, people in tears as they watch the houses in flames from russian shelling. their lives being shattered. and now, today, shelling of that area by russian forces, the eyewitness accounts from that area including a bbc team who was there at the time. they are safe. the bridge, the makeshift bridge which was allowing people to leave from there to go to th