he will close it for idealogical political science reasons. he doesn't care how many people end up dying. harris: 2009 he tried to put executive order power. that is the first place he tried to flex it was close down guantanamo bay. that is interesting, you were there when there were 600. can you imagine how hardcore the last 100 are. would they have been released in order of detriment to the greater society? what happened to good ol' fashion low technology of a bracelet on somebody. can we do that? can we keep up with them? >> apparently not. they would be released that who five we traded for a traitor who were worst of the worst. from the beginning they have been emptying out the pace no matter what on national security consequences. when they are released they will have gitmo street credit to be immediate leaders in whatever jihadist organization. andrea: ask, what side is he on? whose side is he on? everything he is doing is the antithesis of being pro-american. everything. you can't imagine body count. how many soldiers were killed lookin

but i do think there is something probably to this idealogic idealogical, and i do think he's fought a war on terror more in terms of the drone wars and all that kind of stuff, but at the same time ins. and he has been flat-footed and il ilts. we're wondering where they're going back to the fight. >> at least he's not worried about their habeus corpus. donald trump is on this list for 2015, and you might be surprised to hear. >>> who do you most admire in america today? president obama topped the list of admired men again for 2015. the pope is in a tie with donald trump for second place, followed by bernie sanders and bill gates. and the most admired women? despite a rocky year with her e-mail scandal, hillary clinton remains number one for the 20th time since 1993. she's followed by mulala, oprah winfrey, michelle obama and car lie fiorina. did you vote? >> i wasn't allowed to vote, i promise. >> a reality tv star running for president but at the same time has managed to bring the presidential campaign discourse to new, seemingly bottomless lows, bathroom accusations and criticisms

but the very fact they raised the issue of possible idealogical extremism, saying they could not rule it out, also beginning the press conference with statements by officials of the organization, the organization involved, saying no one should think of this as involving islam or reflective of american muslims and reflective of any muslims participating in that press conference, that was the starting point of the press conference. >> i think it's fascinating. as i said, it took a lot of guts for them to do that, but they're choosing their words very carefully. they're saying less than they know. that's completely understandable. one of the things that's occurred to me, we have been watching the events unfold just in the last couple of hours where it was confirmed who it was, that he was an employee there. it has occurred to me, and it wouldn't be the first time, that a terrorist wannabe did something horrible. in some cases the fbi has stopped them before they did something horrible. they're not controlled by isis headquarters or al qaeda headquarte headquarters. they're doing it on th

not the marriage is legitimate, not the political leanings of somebody or religious leanings or idealogical we also learned that the fbi believers the two attackers were radicalized before they even met, which is really interesting. >> that's right. and we've been reporting it was believed they have been radicalized even before isis came on the stage, and now james comb comey, the director of the fbi, said they became radicalized in 2014 before they were dating, before they met. they were discussing jihad, apparently. clearly this has gone back several years. we know they had data on the computer, cell phones, and data from u.s. intelligence agencies, but they haven't been able to retrieve data from those two damaged cell phones found in the trash can and they haven't found that hard drive from the house. anderson? >> thank you for your reporting. the picture that comes into focus gets more and more disturbing now that we know the two killers were radicalize brd they even met and planned their attack in the home they shared with the defendant's mother. hard to believe no one around them kne

bills that also invest in america's priorities without getting sidetracked by a whole bunch of idealogical issues. >> reporter: but that was the easy part. now congress is figuring out how to spent $1.1 trillion in the omnibus spending bill. it's at the bottom line for everything from agriculture to education to diplomacy. but the big sprawling package is also a chance to tack on pet issues. and these policy riders can change the very mission of government, one of the most famous is nearly 40 years old, and still impacting americans today. the hyde amendment, named for henry hyde of illinois, was slapped on to a speing bill. it says federal funds can't be used to pay for most abortions. this year republicans have come up with plenty of riders, and since they control both the house and senate, they are in the driver's seat. >> this is the legislative branch. >> reporter: democrats say more than 30 of them are poison pills. >> what they sent us back takes your breath away. >> reporter: one set of proposals democrats say is too hard to swallow, watering down the federal agency created under d

this was pre-planned, idealogical, self-ish, jihadist terrorism. here is what's interesting.id they choose the work place? i don't think it was necessarily anger. i think it was ease and familiarity. perhaps he went there to case the place. was there an argument. the witnesses seem to say no. the bottom line is, a lot of time with violent defenders, they go with where they know. as we can see, we have the junction of two interstates. they could have gone anywhere. he knew this was a party. it was an enclosed place. he knew who was there and he knew the configuration of the enclosure, making it something that he was familiar with. we oftentimes see with unprofessional folks, they hit what they know. this was, in my opinion, not a case of people who were heavily trained by isis. i think they were self-radicalized, came up with this on their own. i'll tell you, they could have killed a whole heck of a lot more people with the kind of weapons and arsenals that they had. >> let's talk about self-radicalization, which law enforcement is saying this is a case of and also the smashed

you wrote this, in obama's view, i suspect democratic capitalism is real idealogical adversary is notslam of isis, it's the state managed cap stallism of china. obama thinks it's weak and growing weaker. when you look at that in this race for the white house and how hillary clinton is different than the president, what's your take? >> yeah, i think she is different. i think she thinks the threat is greater and requires more aggressive american power. i think obama thinks, remember, george w. bush said radical jihadism was the equivalent of naziism. that's what he said. i don't think he believes that because they convinced people they could bring prosperity. nobody believes the path of isis is the path to bring pros spert. i think obama believes that the only potential alternative form of government that anyone believes can bring prosperity is the authoritarian capitalism of china. that's why china has global reach that the jihadis don't. they can kill people but if you look after september 11th, we've not had another attack on the scale in the united states in 15 years, let alone a 9/

focusing his attention but of course he and hillary clinton are always focused on politics and idealogies instead of sololing the problem and defeating isis. and in our sit down interview with the republican presidential candidate, says she has a plan to do so.. the only way to defeat isis ultimately is to deny them territoy. cut off their supply lines..deny them territory which they call their caliphate. we can do that but it will require leadedeship, and support and resolve on our part in many cases because we cannot simply do this ourselves.we need other other arab nations to help us defeat isis." presidential candidates aren't the only ones criticizing the presiint's address- house speaker paul ryan called the speech half- senator ted cruz is pulling more support in iowa, getting his first lead in annearly state tts cycle. monmouth university released a new poll today of likely iowa republican caucus goers and found 4hat cruz is hoding the top spot over donald trump. crcrz holds 24 perrent support while trump has 19 perccnt. eastern iowans made their way to the capitol today... they s

it, but it is a budget that as i insisted, invests in our military, and our middle class without idealogical provisions that would have weakened wall street reform or rules on big polluters. it's part offen a agreement that will permanently extend tax credits to 24 million working families. it includes some long-sought wins like strengthening america's leadership at the imf, and because it eliminates the possibility of a shutdown for the first time -- or for the first nine months of next year, congress and i have a long runway to get important things done on behalf of the american people. now there's still a lot of work to do. for example, there's still a lot more that congress can do to promote job growth and increase wages in this country. i still want to work with congress, democrats and republicans to reform our criminal justice system, and earlier today i commuted the sentences of 95 men and women who has served their debt to society. and of course our most important job is to keep americans safe. i have had a lot to say about that this week, but let me reiterate. the united states cont

they will also look at the charity affiliated with either the organization or the general idealogicalrend of the organization, and to make sure that the -- the -- the -- the funding is going for very specific charity purposes, and if anything goes in the wrong direction, then they will be liable for prosecution. and -- and i think they will also monitor the statements of the figures affiliated with the muslim brothers, although all of the senior leadership have rejected violence and condemned violent acts in general, they will be looking at the affiliates that will either promote or condone armed tactics against the regime specifically in egypt. >>> much more to come on the program, including, why an arms deal involving taiwan has seen america's top diplomat summoned to china. >> we have people who are desperately in need of jobs. >> hear from citizens caught in the crossfire... >> we want freedom, freedom! >>...and what america can learn from chicago's ongoing gun violence. >>> time now for a reminder of the top stories on al jazeera. libya's rival governments have signed a u.n.-back

will also look at the charity affiliated with either the organization, or, you know, the general idealogical of the organization, and to make sure that the funding is going for very specific charity purposes and if anything goes in the wrong direction, then they will be liable for prosecution, and i think they will also monitor the statements of the figures affiliated with the muslim brothers. although all of the senior leadership have condemned violent act in general, they will be looking at the affiliates that will either promote or condone armed ak ticks against specifically the regime in egypt. >>> on this day five years ago, events set in place what would change the middle east forever. it started with one man, a tunisian who had had enough. his name was mohamed bouassizi, who lived in the central city. on december 17th, 2010, he set himself on fire outside of the local government offices after being harassed and abused by officialings. he died 18 days later, and the massive anti-government protests which began after his act of desperation quickly grew. knowing that his 23 years of iron

and this violence could have been related to the workplace, it might be been idealogical, but we don'tw with any firm certainty. >>> meanwhile germany is the latest nation to take on a role against the battle againsts aisle in syria. politicians voted to send a maximum of 1200 soldiers in a support role. and they will deploy reconnaissance jets and a frigate. >> the vote was overwhelming. a margin of 445 in favor, to 146 against. and it reflects a wider mood broadly supportive of military action. but nonetheless german lawmakers faced immotive questions and vehement debate. >> translator: those countries leading the war really want to get into a competition with isil. >> translator: it is time to act above all for the victims we want to protect. >> reporter: an opinion poll found 58% of germans in favor of action. even though the same poll believed that 53% believe a risk on german soil be increase as a result. they stopped short of authorizing german air strikes inside syria. instead berlin is sending support sources, including six of these jets. there will also be german refuelling a

focusing his attention but of course he and hillary clinton are always focused on politics and idealogies instead of solving the problem and defeating isis. and in our sit down interview with the republican presidential candidate, says she has a plan to do so.. lines..deny them territory which they call their caliphate. we resolve on our part in many simply)do this ourselvfs.we need other other arab nations to help us defeat isis." lauren moss, kwwl news. presidentil candidates aren't the only ones criticizing the president's address- house speaker paul ryy called the fans of the black and gold are very excited about the trip to the rose bowl but man are still thinking abouthe trip to indianapolis -- over the wwkend. morgan ottier tells us how an iowa couple has a special connection rushing for almost a thousand yards this season.. making an impact on one iowa family that they they'll remember long after the hawkeye running back moves on from iowa cityty "he's become a dear family friend of ours since august of 2014 when our son "jackson" was at the university of iowa children's hospititl

including whether someone is coming here and inspiring someone to do these things because of idealogical or religious reasons, or the mental health reasons. which we know is a common theme among these shootings. >> mr. speaker, i suspect a lot of people would agree with you on that. but here's what the president said and the reason i suggested there might be a conversation between you and the president. he said, we have a no-fly list but these same people who we do not allow to fly could get into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm and there's nothing we can do to stop them. >> well, on this particular issue, we do have a constitution. citizens have a due process right. anyone can just be arbitrarily placed upon the no-fly list. in fact, that's happened quite a bit. people have been placed on the list mistakenly, innocently. so we need to respect due process. so when we rush to act on these things, let's make sure we act accordingly, according to citizen's rights, the constitution and make sure what we do solves these problems. that is why we need to take a pause and

unfortunately the passage of time it makes it more and more apparent that there is an effort by the idealogical well as the deniers and the ignorant abetted by much of the media. i can repeat it. that was abetted by much of the media. to sanitize, to describe the holocaust so that it appears less wicked and brutal, their efforts obscures the truth of what actually happened. for example, it has been become routine to use the word lost when referring to relatives and loved ones who were brutally murdered during the holocaust. but the term lost does not accurately describe what happened. lost refers to something that has been misplaced or have gone astray. 11 million people, including 6 million jews and 1.5 million jewish children were not lost or misplaced. these children were murdered as there were generations that would have followed them. similarly, we often here that millions perished during the holocaust, let me make clear those died in auschwitz, they did not perish in the normal sense of the word. they were viciously killed and murdered and burned in the crematorium for all intents and pur

focusing his attention but of coorse he and hililary clinton are always focused on politics and idealogies instead of solving the problem and defeating isis. and in our sit down interview with the republican presidential candidate, says she has a plan to do so.. the only way to defeat isis ultimately is to deny them territoy. cut off their supply lines..deny thhm territory which they call their caliphate. we cases because we cannot simply do this ourselves.we need other other arab nations to help us defeat isis." lauren moss, kwwl news. presidential candidates aren't the only ones criticizing the president's address- house speaker pl ryan called the speech half- a train plows into a car. take a look at this video out of florida. thankfully, no one was inside to get the car free from the tracks before running for safety. several people were hurt when a car plowed through the front entrance of a restaurant also in florida. two of the injured were hurt hospital. fire investigators say instead of the brakes and then slammed into the restaurant. managers said they plan to make repairs right awa

they come from different idealogical background.e are islamist, some of them are secular, so there are many differences between them. and there are many differences on their understanding of the [ inaudible ] constitution in the country, and also on when should bashar al-assad -- should go, and how? and so these are the major differents between them. given that they have not been able to reconcile their differences over the past five years, nobody expected them to do that within the past 24 hours. so this will take much more time and effort to bring them together to agree on something, and that has been challenging task for the past few years for the arab gulf states and the arab league and for many other parties that wanted the opposition to unite itself. >> indeed. this is an area where fires are burning in and outside of the region, vacuuming are being created by everyone from isil to the russians so the iranians some could argue. are they doing a better job of filling those vacuums. >> i think they are doing a better job. we hav

that 28 and a half percent of the content encountered on people's news feeds cuts across people's idealogical views. >> it's about offering opinions. they allow for you to actually unfollow friends. >> reporter: this author and social media expert says unfollowing may slow down that flood of political posts. when is it okay to defriend? >> the most appropriate people, when you listen to different views, are the people that will hear from their network that there are other ways of thinking. if they don't and they're saying it's my way or the highway, it's the highway. move on. get new friends. >> reporter: if you do unfriend someone, you wouldn't be alone. a study from tel-aviv found 16 percent have unfriended that pesky person because of the political comments. back to you. steve: i've deleted pretty much everybody. one year after this rabbi was murdered in florida, police have made an arrest. the suspect's family claims he >> the whole family was home with him when this incident occurred. it's sad what happened to the family. steve: he faces charges of first-degree murder and robbery with a

they will also look at the charity affiliated with either the organization or the general idealogicalnd of the organization. and to make sure that the -- the funding is going for very specific charity purposes, and if anything goes in the wrong direction, they will be liable for prosecution, and i think they will also monitor the statements of the figures affiliated with the must limb broth -- muslim brothers, although they have condemned violent acts in general, they will be looking at some of the affiliates that will promote or condone armed tactics against any regime in egypt. >> we have dedicated most of the last 10 minutes to the middle east. in the next ten minutes we want to take you back to where the uprising all began. and later in the show, we meet women in ethiopia who are trying to escape a life of prostitution. >>> and we'll have the sports news, we'll have reaction to the news that chelsea has fired their manager. ♪ >>> so on this day five years ago, events were set in motion that would changes the middle east and north africa forever. december 17th was the beginning of

your excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, what is at stake in our discussions is neither idealogical,or diplomatic nor economic in the traditional sense of our previous discussions and meetings. we all now realize that the threat is global. indeed there is not a single country, region or continent that will be spared of consequences of climate change. doubt and skepticism are no longer acceptable. nor will it be possible to continue using the alibi of wrong priorities. the community of nations has for far too long turned its back on our children's destiny and future. for a long time we chose to turn a blind eye. for far too long, we have delayed the moment of awareness. we have been playing with hypotheses that have proved to be ways of evading the issue but the facts speak for themselves. ice sheets are melting. sea and ocean levels are rising. shores are gradually being eroded. water sources are becoming scarce. agricultural output is threatened. increasingly deadly floods coming on heels of droughts just as distressing. that is why i have to deliberately chosen to avoid technical a

would say the key here is not finding only a military or diplomatic and political solution, but an idealogical solution. as the president says all the time, we need to fight the ideology. we need to degrade the ideology. hear right. >> fight it with what? i agree, but with what? with a sense of what america is? he doesn't project that? >> that's what we need. that's, i think, what we're not seeing. one of the things i would counter against the, you know, kind of military hawks who say there will only be a military solution with boots on the ground? that's not true. if you go in tomorrow and wipe out isis, the will be repopulated within a few months. but that's why the ideology comes in. that's how you show people, you have to find a way to convince them isis is not the way of the future. radical islam is not going to make their lives and their family's lives better. >> it's one thing not to know what you're talking about. i know nothing about botany, and i'm not guilty of that. you have the third secretary of defense in a row, chuck hagel, say today his advice was ignored by the political oper

i would say he's non-idealogical because when he says -- he's no hawk. republican policy towards getting into everyone's business. he says let putin fight in syria. he is very much against the hawks. he doesn't fit with the republican establishment which is hawkish. i don't find him easy to figure out. i would say nationalist. maybe we haven't had one of those in awhile. it can be scary. a nationalist can be scary. if you are not a nationalist and don't look like one, sometimes obama comes off as too cool for school. too international, he loves trade, loves dealing with cuba, loves dealing with the climate issues and all those issues internationally. that's very big picture. to the average guy out there, get back to the ground with me where i live. look out for me, buddy. focus on my job and my career, my kids' careers. they didn't go to college either. i think the president, being a bit up here, has left the ground below him wide open for trump. >> well -- >> tonight that's what we talk about. >> tonight at 7:00 p.m. on msnbc. >> i don't know whether to

i think because of the idealogical difference between the parties you're seeing them right now. the poll is really not surprising to me. all of us who worked in politics like i have for 20 years, when you see catastrophe like this happen you see sparks in the national security metrics of that poll. right now it is right on the forefront of tv every single day. so it's on people's minds in a time we're at war with isis but republicans in congress won't even pass a bill to say we are at war. people are frustrated. deirdre: now this poll, to your point, chuck, is coming out, it is first one to come out since the san bernardino massacre. and since donald trump's controversial comments on pausing immigration for muslims. so 50% of the poll respondents say that trump in their view is the best candidate to handle the fight against terrorism. here is trump commenting on that subject. >> i would bomb the [bleep] out of them. [cheers and applause] i want surveillance of certain mosques, okay? if that's okay. i want surveillance. [cheering] you know what? we had it before and we'll have it

when the fact is that the cruelty and savagery and the idealogical for isis recruiter for isis.ates origin of all that recruiting what we do. he thinks therefore that the cure is for us to do as little as possible. it is an insane strategic view of the world but he actually holds it and i think that is why the american people are so scared. sandra: insane strategic view of the world, bill, do you agree with that? >> listen to the mike mccaul. he is chairman of the house homeland security committee. he went before a microphone there is a plot for refugees to come to the united states refugee program. why do you think trump is saying what he is saying after he hears something like that? there is effort in the house today, with bigby partisan support, democrats like it, republicans like it, they think president will sign it too. this deals with the visa waiver program. did you know that people under this program people from 38 different countries can come into the united states without a passport. harris: stay here for 90 days. >> without a passport. harris: check in with no one. >

including whether someone is coming here and inspiring someone to do these things because of idealogical or religious reasons, or the mental health reasons. which we know is a common theme among these shootings. >> mr. speaker, i suspect a lot of people would agree with you on that. said and the reason i suggested there might be a conversation between you and the president. he said, we have a no-fly list where people can't be on planes, but these same people who we do not allow to fly could get into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm and there's nothing we can do to stop them. >> well, on this particular issue, we do have a constitution. citizens have a due process right. anyone can just be arbitrarily placed upon the no-fly list. in fact, that's happened quite a bit. people have been placed on the list mistakenly, innocently. so we need to respect due process. so when we rush to act on these things, let's make sure we act accordingly, according to citizen's rights, the constitution and make sure what we do solves these problems. that is why we need to take a pause

merit because it at least we'll discuss the issue of the at least we're going to discuss it is an idealogical problem we're fighting. >> general, that's an interesting point. very few have been willing to come out and say, okay, donald trump has a point here because there has been such a backlash, you can't say that about muslims in general. you can't characterize and generalize in that way. but general, you're saying he has a point here, in that has the muslim religion effectively taken on a political tone that we need to be very worried about, an ideology that effectively is a real problem when you're at war with isis? >> that's precisely the issue, trish. that's why it es so important we look at it. and if we don't, and don't peel it back, then we can't stop it, those leaders, al-sisi in egypt, king abdullah in jordan, and others, demand from them behind the scenes, you tell us, fellows, how to fix this problem. it's your problem. we are not going to solve it as infidels. you must help us solve it. we can destroy isis. trish: general, what if they say, fine, we're not going to do anything,

but what's most significant for me is the very fact that this is classic idealogical compartmentalizationor someone who has been radicalized. the families never know what's going on. they rarely see the stages of radicalization, because in al qaeda and isis ideology, their mindset, mental withdrawal is the first thing they do. they want you to withdraw from the land you're in and come to the caliphate. >> so it's very believable to you saying the brother didn't know, the mother didn't know, that's a very believable statement to you? >> very believable, but the 0de0d e oddest factor is the abandoning of the baby. even for suicide teams we've seen overseas, boko haram kills their family rather than leave them behind. >> secretary napolitano, i know it's been a while since you've been in the middle of these debates, but this visa issues in general, whether the visa waiver programs with our closest allies or the fiance visa, how much of a security gap is that when it comes to this? >> i think from what i understand, the wife was here on a kvisa, and that is a very elaborate process. and it ta

part of it would be idealogical thing. much the argument would be solidified. you declared a caliphate. supposed to keep it, you couldn't. clearly too early. but there is visceral reaction to see what happens to people part of isis which would validate the aq strategy. >> start with a few questions. up front here. >> markoff man, george mason university. thank you for such a very interesting presentation. my question to you, how many should we regard these pledges of allegiance to isil from groups outside of syria and iraq, whether in africa or the elsewhere in the middle east or africa? are they subordinating themselves to isil's authority? or are they more tactical submissions? in other words they get something from this? the reason i ask, ultimately is it possible we might see some of these groups do to isil what isil did to al qaeda in the sense is there the prospect for their de-- defecting or even rivaling isil after al qaeda being a part of isn't. >> i think that is phenomenal question. i think the answer is it depends upon the group. i think in some cla

and the truth is they've gotten a lot of what they want already if you look at -- idealogically, if you look at the complexion years ago that you could have been, you could have had a reasonable conversation on climate change with some republicans. you can't do that now. and so they really have, they really have a chokehold. and it's not just the federal level. we, you know, we're working on the federal level, and so that's what i tend to focus on. but you look at the states and the destruction in these states. the koch brothers had a ten-year strategy of taking over statehouse, governorships, state legislatures. they are organized, and if they want to, they are organized down to local ballot initiatives. so the radical experiment in these states especially in a place like north carolina or wisconsin, that's all koch-driven as well. >> they gave $25 million to the united negro college fund recently so they can produce a group of young african-american nservatives. >> yeah. sure, they've got the libre initiative is a latino-focused front group, they've got one focused on youth called gen

they were idealogical opposites in terms of their judicial flossfies and both very difficult characters, personally, the stories are -- sounds like neither one was a nice man. on 20 years of butting heads it came to head in deliberations over baker vcarr. >> he argues this case passionately among and learn even spent a summer of lobbying between the first and second smerz of the arguments. >> he was an appointee of franklin roosevelt. and he was very much a liberal. involved in the naacp and aclu, and he was a professor at harvard, one of the most distinguished academics and legal thinkers in the united states. but he was a passionate believer in judicial restraint. on the role of judges. and concern that if judges push the the envelope too far, that would be bad for the court and bad for the judiciary and inconsistent with the constitution. it's interesting going back for a moment to the warren brennan thing, earl warren was appointed by president eisenhower. brennan, william brennan was appointed by president eisenhower. eisenhower was later to say something about some of the greatest

. >> whether this was political or idealogical, you'd label it active terrorism? >> any killing of human beings should be active terrorism. >> i appreciate you joining us. my best to your wife. our thoughts are with her. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >>> let's go back now to savannah in new york. >> matt, we'll check in with you in a bit. we'll take a turn and get a check of the weather. it's getting warm here. >> it is. right now, we do have winter weather to talk about. icy mix making its way through the northeast. we're also looking at northern new england with decent snow through there. also lake-effect snow. lots of sunshine making its way through the gulf coast. heavy rain in florida could be significant. series of storms coming into the pacific northwest, bringing a ton of rain. the good news is mountain snow to the sierra. isn't it funny that the people you're closest to are also the hardest to shop for. but if you know where to look for inspiration, you can find the perfect gift for everyone on your list. low prices on everything you need to share

they are either idealogic logically motivated, hybrid, dangerous, cognitively impaired, dangerous.nonconclusive pieces of evidence together and line them up, it points to someone who is more and more radic radicalized. it can happen in a short amount of time, especially with social networks, the internet. if there's a peer, a family or a friend, as well as foreign travel. none of these things are conclusive on their own. the more evidence that comes in, particularly this cache of weapons and explosives. this is not a typical workplace violence type of thing. >> in your estimation, they're terrorists? >> well, as a former law enforcement officer, always let the evidence lead me, not me lead the evidence, but i would say right now, the preponderance of the evidence tilt toward terrorism. >> i have to interrupt you and go to jim sciutto. i'm warning you, i know i probably can't hear you. you have breaking new information about one of the suspects, farook's wife. what is it, jim? >> this is an important new development in this case. i'm going to be careful as we read this language here

doesn't work, go out in communities that support that, make it not an outcome or partisan thing or idealogical thing, what works thing. that to me is kind of conversation we ought to have. why patty murray and i are doing the bill to move measurement system on measuring the effectiveness on war on poverty from inputs and efforts. program spending and bureaucracies outcomes and results. getting people out of poverty? is it working? what that ends up doing is it propels resources and power into the hands of local community poverty fighters who are actually succeeding. when they can show what works and you can cross-pollinate. that is what c and e does. darryl has great program at boot camp. shares what boot camp does in indianapolis. martin and bright, i always get that wrong. share with kansas city and dallas. you're doing dallas cfc. we're doing milwaukee vfc. that is kind of ideas we want to see more of and bureaucrat and somebody with phd i don't know how to fight poverty in bureaucracies putting rules and regulation that prevent that kind of thing from happening. to me it is about changing

draw a distinction between an objection we have other procedural grounds from some of the more idealogically -motivated provisions that i listed off the top. let me say a couple of things about this. one reason that we aren't overly concerned with the substance of the lifting of the oil export ban is that the united states barrels a million day of refined petroleum product and they were written into the law a handful of waivers to the crude oil export ban that allowed companies in the united states to export 500,000 barrels of crude oil each day under those exceptions. o the fact is yes, this is after legislative action that would require the lifting of this ban, but the fanth is there was already substantial petroleum products both retined and unrefined that were already being exported. what i would also note and was included in the budget to the positive side of the ledger is the biggest investment in the deployment of renewable energy in american history. for a long time, the administration had to engage in negotiations with congress on a yearly basis about the extension of the production

another comparison that is perilous to, but war on drugs, for example, became a proxy battle for idealogically-drivenolutions. and i think there are some that would advocate, for example, there was a narrative at one point during the counterextremism debate that it was all about poverty. it's not all about above i. our friends at george washington university put out a wonderful, comprehensive report on american isis fighters. we also put out a variety of things on this subject. it is not the poor, vulnerable youth at all times. it's across the board. the age is different, they come from different backgrounds. but i think you find that because of ideological perspectives and the proxy battles of those ideological perspectives come into play, people want to superimpose their own ideological beliefs into the vast bucket that can be counternarrative. i wish everyone would describe it as alberto did. >> guest: ing it attracts a lot of weird, off wall things. a think there was one person that wrote promoting same-sex marriage was a way to defeat isis. there are a lot of exotic views of things. >> host: wel