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i think when you pursue the government's arguments about id cards, it's an ever-shifting answer. you know, you're told to start with what it's about, illegal immigration, but then you say why not have proper border control? well, it's not really about that, it's about combating crime. well, are the police going to be able to command you to produce it on site? no, they're not. well, then it's about fraud. it's a sort of solution seeking a problem, and it's also an extremely expensive one. so i think there are sort of pragmatic arguments against it which have been teased out through this debate, and then there are also the data security
i think when you pursue the government's arguments about id cards, it's an ever-shifting answer. you know, you're told to start with what it's about, illegal immigration, but then you say why not have proper border control? well, it's not really about that, it's about combating crime. well, are the police going to be able to command you to produce it on site? no, they're not. well, then it's about fraud. it's a sort of solution seeking a problem, and it's also an extremely expensive one. so i...
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. >> later this summer there will be freezing in the secure side passenger id system, we talked aboutis morning on the "washington journal" were about 30 minutes. >> host: kip hawley, head of the transportation security administration from 2005 to 2009 joining us from mountain view, california. thanks for being with us. >> guest: thanks to be here. >> host: looking at the baltimore sun reporting about this tsa to require a gender, birth date of wires as part of secure allied airlines last passengers buying tickets to provide their names exactly as it appears on a government issued identification a plan to use when travelling later this summer there also began asking passengers to ride their birth dates and gender. what sort of issues does this present number one to fires and number two to the airlines to have to implement the policy? >> guest: fourth wires i think it is going to be a great thing because right now the airlines do the matching between the watch list of passengers and because they're careful to make sure nobody who is watch listed gets on it without being checked, they s
. >> later this summer there will be freezing in the secure side passenger id system, we talked aboutis morning on the "washington journal" were about 30 minutes. >> host: kip hawley, head of the transportation security administration from 2005 to 2009 joining us from mountain view, california. thanks for being with us. >> guest: thanks to be here. >> host: looking at the baltimore sun reporting about this tsa to require a gender, birth date of wires as part of...
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ineffectual it is protection of the flying public and i cite as an example the woman who borrowed her friends id card and traveled from pennsylvania to florida a couple of weeks ago. all of the yelling and screaming that the tsa agents do in the line don't protect me. it out like to see them be presented a kinder gentler days to the public. you don't need that -- i travel all over the world and this is the only place where i get screen back in the line when i try to get on my airplane. thank you. >> guest: certainly the part about the screening at the line that should not be the case. in fact, the entire workforce at tsa has been trained in the last year partly on that to say let's focus on finding people who are going to attack the aircraft and not getting into the role of the disciplinarian and home on a tear. in use your brains in your training and technology is, so i hope that as you travel more you will be seeing the quieter,,,, and tsa and less of the old. i think that this program by allowing them to know who is coming to the checkpoint and which ones are the people on the watch list will
ineffectual it is protection of the flying public and i cite as an example the woman who borrowed her friends id card and traveled from pennsylvania to florida a couple of weeks ago. all of the yelling and screaming that the tsa agents do in the line don't protect me. it out like to see them be presented a kinder gentler days to the public. you don't need that -- i travel all over the world and this is the only place where i get screen back in the line when i try to get on my airplane. thank...
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. >> guest: id is stunning and clearly there's not get an alternative economic model that will work. you can give away the contents, i can put it on the screen and except the same revenues. the technology driven part of this change in the newspaper business happens to coincide with an gets confused with the problems caused by the economic problems. department stores and automobile dealers are great newsdealers and that has collapsed so it is hard to know what the shape of the crisis would be denied: with the economic downturn but the right is clear subtracted the economic downturn and the new technologies make everything different. my daughter is 28 years old and she moved to los angeles from new york in needed a job and apartment she went by the los angeles times. it would not occur to her -- she would go on to craigslist or on-line and do it that way. the collapse of classified advertising is an enormous part of the problem of the industry. >> host: old communications, newspapers and television or one recommendation, the internet is dynamic and your call in and get less commentary
. >> guest: id is stunning and clearly there's not get an alternative economic model that will work. you can give away the contents, i can put it on the screen and except the same revenues. the technology driven part of this change in the newspaper business happens to coincide with an gets confused with the problems caused by the economic problems. department stores and automobile dealers are great newsdealers and that has collapsed so it is hard to know what the shape of the crisis would...
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. >> the where the ides of cms > -- the where we did beware the ides of cms. it is going to be a blueprint for rationing health care. maybe i'm wrong. maybe i've been there all of these experiences and think that there are things there that are not there. i do not think so. i do not see any problem if it is duplicative. where has it been said that they cannot do this? i hope people would vote for the amendment. i appreciate the comments from my friend from maryland. >> all right. no further debate on the amendment. all those in favor -- >> i would like a roll call vote. >> know. >> no by proxy. >> know. >> no by proxy. >> no by proxy. >>no. >> no by proxy. >> no. >> aye. >>aye by proxy. >> aye by proxy. >> aye by proxy. >> aye. >> aye by proxy. >> aye by proxy. . >> aye. >> no by proxy. >> thanks our colleagues. -- i thank our colleagues. >> could i inquire -- senator mikulski was very straightforward and honest about what was really intended in the cer stuff. wintus asked about senator gregg -- when she was asked about senator gregg and the intentions -- i ju
. >> the where the ides of cms > -- the where we did beware the ides of cms. it is going to be a blueprint for rationing health care. maybe i'm wrong. maybe i've been there all of these experiences and think that there are things there that are not there. i do not think so. i do not see any problem if it is duplicative. where has it been said that they cannot do this? i hope people would vote for the amendment. i appreciate the comments from my friend from maryland. >> all right....
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id is motion that has become long enough for someone else to read.o, since it is time for change, perhaps we should think about changing what we call this, you know. but it is definitely a seminal word that needs to be documented a number of different ways, and needs to continue to grow. and i think my voice is just about out. [applause] >> i just have to simple questions. are you going to have a sequel, and i was wondering if we could hear the dead woman's poem. i am dying to hear her poem written by the young woman who wrote the palm. also, i was going to give a hint of what that sipple might be. it could be go tell the first grandma. >> there is a sequel, and actually it is the stories behind the stories, because as we have walked this journey, this path that we are on, those who have come with us in bringing us along our introducing us to a new page in what we call history and her story or some other word that we have not come up with, but yes, we to have another book in mind, which is really to document with this journey has been, and since we h
id is motion that has become long enough for someone else to read.o, since it is time for change, perhaps we should think about changing what we call this, you know. but it is definitely a seminal word that needs to be documented a number of different ways, and needs to continue to grow. and i think my voice is just about out. [applause] >> i just have to simple questions. are you going to have a sequel, and i was wondering if we could hear the dead woman's poem. i am dying to hear her...
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id has changed not just journalism but it has changed politics, and in the sense of coming do you know of campaigns in the past, every campaign i have covered we had what we called street talk and whispering campaigns. i always tell the story, when i was a reporter in fort worth, about ten days out from every election i have ever covered it always turned out one of the candidates was accused of having a girlfriend that lived on the east side. i don't know why it was but all the girlfriend's for living on the east side. it would always come out and we would have to go check it out and sometimes it would be true, about 90% of the times it was not true. was just one of the scurrilous rumors and it would never get in the paper, it would never get on television or anything. now, it's that kind of rumor crop supped it gets on somebody's blog. it gets on the internet and there it is. you have to deal with it. you have to figure out what to do about it. what we in the mainstream media do about it, we try to check it out but you know the internet is the first vehicle we have ever had to deliver
id has changed not just journalism but it has changed politics, and in the sense of coming do you know of campaigns in the past, every campaign i have covered we had what we called street talk and whispering campaigns. i always tell the story, when i was a reporter in fort worth, about ten days out from every election i have ever covered it always turned out one of the candidates was accused of having a girlfriend that lived on the east side. i don't know why it was but all the girlfriend's for...
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the imf is funded at id level almost $30 billion more than what is provided for our troops which thisis supposedly what this bill is all about. the conflict agreement includes $1 billion in emergency spending for the cash for clunkers program that was not a part of either the house or the senate package. nor was it requested but the president. i understand the countries that dropped the language we -- relating to the detainee totals. they've used watered-down language for the detainees at guantanamo bay. this is an issue that will continue to be of great concern to many of us as well as the american people. just last week, the president approved of having the guantanamo detainees transferred to new york city. the president appears to be racing to live -- to move these detainees to their new homes. during last week's conference hearing, i offered several amendments along with my colleagues. the first sought approval prohibiting the release detainees photos. the second insisted upon the funding level for dod spending. the third i offered to help with the prohibit -- prohibition of relea
the imf is funded at id level almost $30 billion more than what is provided for our troops which thisis supposedly what this bill is all about. the conflict agreement includes $1 billion in emergency spending for the cash for clunkers program that was not a part of either the house or the senate package. nor was it requested but the president. i understand the countries that dropped the language we -- relating to the detainee totals. they've used watered-down language for the detainees at...
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the president and his id ministration are implementing wide-reaching reforms. i think the president has outlined his views on this clearly since the administration began. on the first one, i think, obviously the judge wanted to send a very strong signal to anybody that invests money on behalf of others of the responsibility that they
the president and his id ministration are implementing wide-reaching reforms. i think the president has outlined his views on this clearly since the administration began. on the first one, i think, obviously the judge wanted to send a very strong signal to anybody that invests money on behalf of others of the responsibility that they
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. >> does the president agree with senator schuman, all american workers need to have id cards? >> i do not have anything on that aspect of the legislation or his ideas. at this point, i do not think there is a bill that is moving through congress. >> what about the president's thoughts? >> i will have to talk to him about that. >> you said a couple of days ago that americans are concerned and upset with the president about the deficit and have very to be. -- and have a right to be. >> [unintelligible] [laughter] >> [unintelligible] >> slam dunk. [laughter] >> is the present concerned that the -- is the president concerned? polls indicate that the president does not have a plan. >> the president hopes to cut the deficit in half over the next four years. as you have heard us talk about this before, we did not get here overnight. and it is good to take us awhile to get back on a path toward fiscal responsibility. one of the things that he has talked about is ensuring that we are making progress on health care reform as a way to bring the deficit down. changing the curve on our hea
. >> does the president agree with senator schuman, all american workers need to have id cards? >> i do not have anything on that aspect of the legislation or his ideas. at this point, i do not think there is a bill that is moving through congress. >> what about the president's thoughts? >> i will have to talk to him about that. >> you said a couple of days ago that americans are concerned and upset with the president about the deficit and have very to be. -- and...
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if you want to take full advantage id should be a 10 mile per gallon differential.f you turn in a 50 mpg-vehicle you need to get at least a 25 mile per gallon vehicle to get the full benefit. bela thing is this, if you have an old hummer that cost say, $40,000 that is three years oold that is now only worth $18,000, or less -- you will not want to take advantage of this program at all. you will not get the $8,000 plus the 40 $500,000 -- plus the $4,500. so, your car must be worth less than the amount. host: we have frank on the republican line from new jersey. caller: good morning. great show, c-span. congressman fred upton, i have things i like to say to you about all this. first off, number one, the federal government is completely out of touch with what really goes on in the auto industry and how it operates because the price of oil has backfired. the government -- in the government's case. all used to be a cheap commodity to use as fuel for an automobile. then as time goes on you want to use of ethanol and our cars. they find out that it pollutes more than gasol
if you want to take full advantage id should be a 10 mile per gallon differential.f you turn in a 50 mpg-vehicle you need to get at least a 25 mile per gallon vehicle to get the full benefit. bela thing is this, if you have an old hummer that cost say, $40,000 that is three years oold that is now only worth $18,000, or less -- you will not want to take advantage of this program at all. you will not get the $8,000 plus the 40 $500,000 -- plus the $4,500. so, your car must be worth less than the...
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not ids but the human touch and of history when it is realized. >> host: in "mirrors" you read this tapestry of stories. there is a flow from one aspect, sometimes you cover a thousand years on a page. in other times you go back and forth a little bit. >> guest: but there is a continuity. like a river running, not below the line. how is it called an english? and subway is. >> host: and underground river. >> guest: underground river, like an underground river there is some music uniting all of these different pieces that may turn into a mass of something, something crazy. but it is not. i hope it is not here and they are articulated because we have this river. >> host: and one almost inevitably leads to another. i have found that rating "mirrors" sometimes i would start in the middle just pick it up and sometimes reading and be carried foreign. then because i had to prepare for this i read all the way through, but there is always, it is almost like a push rather than a pull. i can't stop. i have to -- the thing i am reading now makes me read the next little story. how you create your stories?
not ids but the human touch and of history when it is realized. >> host: in "mirrors" you read this tapestry of stories. there is a flow from one aspect, sometimes you cover a thousand years on a page. in other times you go back and forth a little bit. >> guest: but there is a continuity. like a river running, not below the line. how is it called an english? and subway is. >> host: and underground river. >> guest: underground river, like an underground river...
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and for e-mail id is c-span.org. -- it is c-span.org if you have called in the past 30 days please give others a chance to call this morning. here is where we are basing our question. it is an op ed in the washington post. the author is from the brookings institution. it refers specifically to detention policy. on september, soon after 9/11 attacks the bush administration face a choice about terrorist detainee's commission to get congress on board or should it go alone? president bush bypass the legislature for seven years, based u.s. detention policy on his own constitutional authority. working with congress would be hard, the administration officials reasoned. the legislature might constrain executive flexibility in the president had powerful arguments that he did not need additional legislative support. that is worthy editorial begins. we will read more of it in just a moment. the issue is between the approach of the bush administration and the executive authority for that of fdr's administration and working through the legislation. the supreme court is wrapping up its session. the a
and for e-mail id is c-span.org. -- it is c-span.org if you have called in the past 30 days please give others a chance to call this morning. here is where we are basing our question. it is an op ed in the washington post. the author is from the brookings institution. it refers specifically to detention policy. on september, soon after 9/11 attacks the bush administration face a choice about terrorist detainee's commission to get congress on board or should it go alone? president bush bypass...
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the id minister of the burdens that we have laid upon -- the administrative burdens that we have laidpractice of medicine is uncalled for. we need to follow evidence basic guidelines. the important signal is that we are at a watershed moment in our country. as the president indicated, our economy is driven by the health of our population. unless we get our arms around the prevention aspect and make sure people have a strong primary-care medical home, and we have incentives for specialties, that we are in short supply of, we need to start moving our system more toward a system so we can make sure that wherever the patient enters the system, the electronic records allows the position to know what is going on with the patient. we have a system -- incentives to keep people well. we want to move forward with the president over the next year. >> you say you are happy that the president has put more practice reform on the table. what exactly is it that he has put on the table? we know he has taken some things off of the table. can you elaborate for us what is on the table? >> i cannot elabor
the id minister of the burdens that we have laid upon -- the administrative burdens that we have laidpractice of medicine is uncalled for. we need to follow evidence basic guidelines. the important signal is that we are at a watershed moment in our country. as the president indicated, our economy is driven by the health of our population. unless we get our arms around the prevention aspect and make sure people have a strong primary-care medical home, and we have incentives for specialties, that...
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co-sponsor senator demint's act id hh i voted for and chairman prior spend a lot of time on have a lot of unintended consequences. connect nanay i have 8, soon to be 9 grandchildren. one of my daughter's in law with a mother of 3, all under 5, chairs the largest second-hand clothing sale and second-hand book swabbing the history of dankind. when that law passed, within weeks they were called by their attorneys, because of the potential effect, legal liability put on them as a second hand manufacturer who did not take responsibility. we need to look at the unintended consequences of that legislation. there's a stay in the implementation but i hope you apply the same diligence in south carolina education as you did to that part to the subject. they are so onerous for people it was never intended for. >> if i am confirmed i will work to resolve many of these issues that are coming back to you and other members of this committee. it is my understanding, i have read the guidelines on secondhand stores and asked people house things are going. many of them say we read the guidelines and are n
co-sponsor senator demint's act id hh i voted for and chairman prior spend a lot of time on have a lot of unintended consequences. connect nanay i have 8, soon to be 9 grandchildren. one of my daughter's in law with a mother of 3, all under 5, chairs the largest second-hand clothing sale and second-hand book swabbing the history of dankind. when that law passed, within weeks they were called by their attorneys, because of the potential effect, legal liability put on them as a second hand...
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you either rescue id or allow it to fail. they want to find a more orderly way to go through the process. host: how will this come out today? guest: barack obama team has been orchestrating a process of bringing everything out. the have already put out an 85- page white paper last night. they have been talking to reporters over the last few. -- the last few days. the president will lead the discussion today with his own speech on the subject. host: we want and fighters to phone in with their questions and comments. -- we want to invite viewers. john is the chief economic correspondent for "the wall street journal" -- first when you started reporting this on monday you do talk about that this will touch almost every corner of and banking. what does it mean for the average person? guest: for the average person it means first of all there is a new consumer protection agency. one of the concerns that comes from the crisis is that banks created many exotic mortgages. that households did not understand -- they discover their mortga
you either rescue id or allow it to fail. they want to find a more orderly way to go through the process. host: how will this come out today? guest: barack obama team has been orchestrating a process of bringing everything out. the have already put out an 85- page white paper last night. they have been talking to reporters over the last few. -- the last few days. the president will lead the discussion today with his own speech on the subject. host: we want and fighters to phone in with their...
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there was a woman who brought her friends id card in trouble from pennsylvania to florida a couple of weeks ago. all of the yelling in the line does not protect me. i would like to see the officials pursue a kinder, gentler face to the public. i travel worldwide and this is the only place i get screen that in the line when i am trying to get on my plane. guest: certainly the part about screaming while standing in line should not be the case. the entire work force at tsa has been trained on that. we have tried to find personnel who will protect getting onto the plane without acting like a hall monitor. i hope that as to travel more you will see the quieter, calmer, confidence tsa personal and less of the old. this program by allowing them to know who was coming to check point and those watch-list of will help them to be more flexible people like yourself. host: now that you travel as a private citizen, what do you notice? guest: i think it work smoothly and of the lines are not bad. no one is in the mood to chat with the tsa as the go through although i do because i used to be there. t
there was a woman who brought her friends id card in trouble from pennsylvania to florida a couple of weeks ago. all of the yelling in the line does not protect me. i would like to see the officials pursue a kinder, gentler face to the public. i travel worldwide and this is the only place i get screen that in the line when i am trying to get on my plane. guest: certainly the part about screaming while standing in line should not be the case. the entire work force at tsa has been trained on...
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he responds that it must be independent but during a serious financial crisis id must work with the treasury and government in power to keep the economy stabilized. host: our guest is with market news international ,john shaw has joined us to give us insights and answer your questions. florida, scott on our independent line. caller: good morning to you both. the big picture seems the reason why we needed this tarp which, yes, republicans and democrats -- whoever would have been president would have had to do something. president bush wanted to past tarp and nancy pelosi said nick, thanks, we will take your time and do right. meanwhile lots of companies lost businesses. lost olots of companies lost jobs. taking their time seems to be the problem. but there did need to be the tarp, no matter whether with republicans or democrats holding the reins. however, these toxic assets were given -- started in the clinton administration. were it managed by the house and senate, both of them seem to be -- seemed to be democrats at the time. even though bush was president he did not seem to know what was g
he responds that it must be independent but during a serious financial crisis id must work with the treasury and government in power to keep the economy stabilized. host: our guest is with market news international ,john shaw has joined us to give us insights and answer your questions. florida, scott on our independent line. caller: good morning to you both. the big picture seems the reason why we needed this tarp which, yes, republicans and democrats -- whoever would have been president would...
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if you look at the technical, scientific and urging -- the engineering fax, id nuclear power plants are a shoe in. there is no competition. and then you say, what about performance in the real world? again -- performance has been astonishing. on those two bases, there is no reason not to use nuclear energy. we look at it as a last resort. it is not a last resort. it is an obvious solution. all of these technical facts are, of course, bipartisan. they are true in the real world. they are unavoidable. the legend problems that nuclear faces do not really -- the alleges that problems at nuclear faces do not really occur in the real world. waste -- who is being hurt by waste? we have back up information on that. that is scarce stuff. it is not occurring in the real world. -- that is scare stuff. the president says we do not need yuca mountain. we do not need that. we never did need it. it was a dumb idea from beginning to end. we should take this opportunity to accept his assurance that we use fuel is not creating any problem where it is. let's get this albatross away from around our neck. n
if you look at the technical, scientific and urging -- the engineering fax, id nuclear power plants are a shoe in. there is no competition. and then you say, what about performance in the real world? again -- performance has been astonishing. on those two bases, there is no reason not to use nuclear energy. we look at it as a last resort. it is not a last resort. it is an obvious solution. all of these technical facts are, of course, bipartisan. they are true in the real world. they are...
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>> id involved that essentially exploding. >> your colleague at the fed seems to concur, recently giving a speech in which they rely too heavily on the measures of the out were gap as the protector of inflation. they argue that inflation will remain low for some time. other indicators, forward- looking economic models, suggest a much higher risk of inflation. are we looking at the right indicators to gauge the risk of future inflation goals and compensation spreads? what indicators are you using to measure inflation? why are they the right indicators? >> i think that when gaps of reach the level that we are currently seeing how it is no longer the case that we can move it to the output gap. the experience of previous recessions is that inflation has tended to fall after the recession. that is a reliable empirical regularity. a drag on inflation. we simply should not put too much weight, because it is difficult to measure. currently there is not much doubt that there is an output gap and that there would be a downward effect on inflation. that said, there are other factors as well, includ
>> id involved that essentially exploding. >> your colleague at the fed seems to concur, recently giving a speech in which they rely too heavily on the measures of the out were gap as the protector of inflation. they argue that inflation will remain low for some time. other indicators, forward- looking economic models, suggest a much higher risk of inflation. are we looking at the right indicators to gauge the risk of future inflation goals and compensation spreads? what indicators...
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id is a time when you would want to build a rainy day funds, prepare for that, but given this kind of situation in this very little ability to do that. and it's interesting even to compare this. scott mentioned back 21983 in terms of cuts, but it's interesting when you look at it was one year down 7p. in 1982 going into that here spending group over 6% and coming out of it on the other side, 1984, spending grew 8% so as bad as that one was, we were down an ad of a relatively quickly. this one is going to be deeper and much much longer, so you're not going to have that capacity to build the revenue base going forward. so with that, when we open up to questions. let's hold on the the conference call and see whether there are any questions in the room. yes. >> [inaudible] to what degree are these problems concentrated in california then say michigan? >> i would say these are pretty broad. i mean, those states are probably in that category of some of the worst, but florida and nevada, rhode island, you've got a number of others in that category but you have a whole bunch of others that ar
id is a time when you would want to build a rainy day funds, prepare for that, but given this kind of situation in this very little ability to do that. and it's interesting even to compare this. scott mentioned back 21983 in terms of cuts, but it's interesting when you look at it was one year down 7p. in 1982 going into that here spending group over 6% and coming out of it on the other side, 1984, spending grew 8% so as bad as that one was, we were down an ad of a relatively quickly. this one...
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no way in there to get the kids incentivize to use the structures here and i'm not sure how saint idesf fact that, but they're all nice things we like to buy the right to have and can be shot already in stimulus, but they are not, definitely not hill ready. they're not something that is going to cause the people to do those things right away. there are other ways we can get people to read better foods with a meal act and have them to get exercise but that is with some incentive. there is a lot of equipment out there not being used toward and we could make that more available and smoking we did something and i said it was an adequate but the best we were going to do and i am pleased that we're able to do that but that is not what a billion is about and 80 billion is rather unspecified. there were more specified the things talking about like getting people to stop eating bad foods and salty foods and of those things incidentally burger king right now has a sign on the counter where you go to order and says, if you hold the cheese and hold the mayo is a 160 calories. i bet that that gets
no way in there to get the kids incentivize to use the structures here and i'm not sure how saint idesf fact that, but they're all nice things we like to buy the right to have and can be shot already in stimulus, but they are not, definitely not hill ready. they're not something that is going to cause the people to do those things right away. there are other ways we can get people to read better foods with a meal act and have them to get exercise but that is with some incentive. there is a lot...
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in those notes id says fire board of directors -- directors, is responsible for country. timg would agree. >> this are mr. price's notes? >> yes sir. >> i would have to assume with you because they are his notes. >> based on your recollection of what was going on and based on the notes we see from the cfo that was there, fire board of directors if you do it, was that your understanding? >> the -- that was is probably a reference to the conversation i mentioned that i had with secretary paulson. but, again, those are his notes. >> based on your personal recollection, is that your understanding that the board of directors would be let go if directors would be let go if this mac claus invoked? >> i mentioned that i need a license with whether he said could or would, but basically the premise was the management and the board would be removed if in fact we did -- >> including yourself? >> correct. >> so if the suggestion from the federal government was have your job removed as well as the board of directors, can it be looked at any other way other than a threat? >> well, actua
in those notes id says fire board of directors -- directors, is responsible for country. timg would agree. >> this are mr. price's notes? >> yes sir. >> i would have to assume with you because they are his notes. >> based on your recollection of what was going on and based on the notes we see from the cfo that was there, fire board of directors if you do it, was that your understanding? >> the -- that was is probably a reference to the conversation i mentioned that...
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one of the most important lessons id we can learn from a financial meltdown is that excessive risk-takingand over leveraged activity with little or no oversight will lead to instability. as this committee considers financial reform we need to guard against destabilizing activity and identified the proper role of risk in a thoughtful way by improving compensation, risk-management and corporate governance practices and i look forward to hearing the witnesses testimony and again, thinks mr. chairman. >> the gentleman from texas, mr. hensarling for two minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. executive compensation is the wrong remedy for what is probably an onyx system problem. any compensation legislation considered by congress ought to be driven by two key principles. number one, executives of failed companies to come to taxpayers with a tin cup in hand must be subject to compensation limits, period, let there be no doubt. number two, except for the first principle, congress has no business setting artificial and mandatory limits on anyone's pursuit of their american dream. as someone aspires
one of the most important lessons id we can learn from a financial meltdown is that excessive risk-takingand over leveraged activity with little or no oversight will lead to instability. as this committee considers financial reform we need to guard against destabilizing activity and identified the proper role of risk in a thoughtful way by improving compensation, risk-management and corporate governance practices and i look forward to hearing the witnesses testimony and again, thinks mr....
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he thinks this is a very id -- a good idea and has spoken to members of congress about it many times. this is the idea that the president prefers. host: steve is on the phone from robert p., and mexico -- albuquerque, new mexico. caller: you guys said so many things are would like to question, but -- i get the feeling that the administration is trying to create an insurance plan for the 50 million -- and i believe that number is to be greatly inflated -- at the cost of the to under 50 million of us that have insurance paren. i think as a result of your programs, the insurance costs will go up to employers and their employees. therefore, what we have down the road will not be as good and will cost us more. you say this that and the other thing, he has told us an awful lot of things that he has planned since the campaign and into his presidency that are not the same as what he says. just to say that he is saying something does not mean a lot to me. guest: first,ç the goal here is to reduce your costs. i'm gathering from what you say you get your health insurance from your work. i'm rel
he thinks this is a very id -- a good idea and has spoken to members of congress about it many times. this is the idea that the president prefers. host: steve is on the phone from robert p., and mexico -- albuquerque, new mexico. caller: you guys said so many things are would like to question, but -- i get the feeling that the administration is trying to create an insurance plan for the 50 million -- and i believe that number is to be greatly inflated -- at the cost of the to under 50 million...
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implying i should be fired as the university faculty member because after all that is a state employee id we cannot have a state employee disagree with the governor. to make a long story short in fact, that governor office issued a letter it been parked at my request and she quoted recent media coverage of events a session with the subject of climate change has generated some confusion as to the role of the state climatologist. she said when i speak i am not speaking as the state climatologist which i know that you have not. the "journal" reported it that she said the third birds of my work with private groups and privately backed publications disputing some change had generated some confusion this is the climate of extreme that things are not said are reported as if they are so not everybody thinks the governor told me in one case it was reported i cannot speak on a climate issues with makes you wonder if the state climatologist cannot speak on climate issues am i supposed to speak on politics? [laughter] but in any event that governor is gone, i am not sure how we will get along with hi
implying i should be fired as the university faculty member because after all that is a state employee id we cannot have a state employee disagree with the governor. to make a long story short in fact, that governor office issued a letter it been parked at my request and she quoted recent media coverage of events a session with the subject of climate change has generated some confusion as to the role of the state climatologist. she said when i speak i am not speaking as the state climatologist...
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through and almost struck me in areas it might instead of striking coal areas as i thumbed through this id tilled the reading, their ideas incorporated which i think at some point would be valuable in the context we are dealing with to supplement rather the efforts certainly transparency, accountability issues. all loveless i think understand it is going to be very important personal responsibility aspects. you are going to hear from tom harkin shortly as it goes to the issue how do we get people to change lifestyles. you've spoken about this in the past how that may be the critical piece in the long-term implications bringing down costs and improving quality of health in the country so i think there is again one of those moments there is a great sharing of common principles in this bill. things we ought to be built to achieve and to and i can't say with all the details of the amendment but i think some concepts the ones we all embrace and share i think striking the whole section is where it gets an easy because there are very valuable sections senator mikulski has included that are import
through and almost struck me in areas it might instead of striking coal areas as i thumbed through this id tilled the reading, their ideas incorporated which i think at some point would be valuable in the context we are dealing with to supplement rather the efforts certainly transparency, accountability issues. all loveless i think understand it is going to be very important personal responsibility aspects. you are going to hear from tom harkin shortly as it goes to the issue how do we get...
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what is that i wanted to share and how i have been framed photographs of the with the founder's framed ids. any other questions about ethics stops or shutter speed? [laughter] >> is there one photograph that you had planned something out and was totally surprised and became sort of a favorite of yours? >> well, that is like if you have five children and your asked to is your favorite child. so i think i recall shooting the ticker-tape parade in new york city which was easier to do because you could do without press credentials. as the soldiers and seemed like half the u.s. army was marching down broadway, they were coming at me and ticker tape was coming down and some of the shots are in my book but the shot i remember was turning around to see where i was walking backwards and suddenly there was a single american flag hanging on the site of a building surrounded enshrouded by thousands of little tiny pieces of tape. there's one other one and this is not a cheap plug either, but ironically this picture on the cover i had to think of tens of thousands of pictures, which pitcher do you put o
what is that i wanted to share and how i have been framed photographs of the with the founder's framed ids. any other questions about ethics stops or shutter speed? [laughter] >> is there one photograph that you had planned something out and was totally surprised and became sort of a favorite of yours? >> well, that is like if you have five children and your asked to is your favorite child. so i think i recall shooting the ticker-tape parade in new york city which was easier to do...
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we see one editorial id editor-in-chief proclaiming that dialogue with iran, u.s. dialogue with iran was dead on arrival. tackling a similar op-ed in "the new york times." taken in sum, this opposition, this suggest that arab states reject an either or approach toward iran. the best course of action for many can be described as a sort of managed bases of confrontation and coexistence, no peace, no war. why, because this is how they benefited for so long and relegates domestic concerns to the back burner. and i think this raises my third point which is the opportunity cost in terms of u.s. policy interest in pursuing a competitive balancing paradigm against iran and pursuing a containment approach. there are a number of factors that may work against a radical shift in our policy toward iran, not least of which are the domestic politics inside the islamic republic. but a reversion to a pure containment paradigm carries a number of risks to u.s. policy interest, namely the neglect of domestic reform and possible increase tension resulting from an arab i run in cold wa
we see one editorial id editor-in-chief proclaiming that dialogue with iran, u.s. dialogue with iran was dead on arrival. tackling a similar op-ed in "the new york times." taken in sum, this opposition, this suggest that arab states reject an either or approach toward iran. the best course of action for many can be described as a sort of managed bases of confrontation and coexistence, no peace, no war. why, because this is how they benefited for so long and relegates domestic concerns...
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30 years ago america's cable companies created id as a private business initiative, no government mandate or money. >> this past monday general motors filed for chapter 11. it is the largest such filing ever in the manufacturing sector. now the president's statement on its future. it is about 15 minutes. >> good morning. just over two months ago i spoke with you in the same spot about the challenges to the auto industry and i laid out what needed to be done to save two of america's most historic autumn makers, general motors and chrysler. they were facing a crisis decades in the making and having relied on loans from the previous administration and were asking for more. from the beginning i made it clear that i would not put any more tax dollars on the line if it meant perpetuating the bad business decisions that had led these companies to seek help in the first place. i refuse to let these become permanent wards of the state, kept afloat on an endless supply of taxpayer money. in other words, i refused to kick the can down the road. but i also recognize the importance of a viable auto in
30 years ago america's cable companies created id as a private business initiative, no government mandate or money. >> this past monday general motors filed for chapter 11. it is the largest such filing ever in the manufacturing sector. now the president's statement on its future. it is about 15 minutes. >> good morning. just over two months ago i spoke with you in the same spot about the challenges to the auto industry and i laid out what needed to be done to save two of america's...
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but beware the ides of cms. once they get ahoefld this golden tablet of cer coming down from mt. health and human services, they will grab that thing like a dog with a bone. and it's going to be -- it's going to be basically a blueprint for rationing health care. maybe i'm wrong. maybe i have just been through all of these experiences and think that there's, you know, things there that aren't there. i don't think so. and i don't see any problem if it is duplicative. where has it been said that congress can't be duplicative in trying to protect patient's choice. i appreciate the comments from my friend from maryland. >> all right. no further debate on the amendment. all those in favor of the -- >> i'd like a roll call vote. >> the clerk will call the roll. >> senator dodd? >> no. >> senator -- >> no, by proxy. >> senator mikulski. >> no. >> senator bingaman. >> no, by proex. >> senator murray. >> no, by proxy. >> senator reed. >> no. >> senator sanders. >> no. >> senator brown. >> -- >> senator casey. >> no. >> senator higgens. >> no, by proxy. >> senator murphy. >> no. >> senator
but beware the ides of cms. once they get ahoefld this golden tablet of cer coming down from mt. health and human services, they will grab that thing like a dog with a bone. and it's going to be -- it's going to be basically a blueprint for rationing health care. maybe i'm wrong. maybe i have just been through all of these experiences and think that there's, you know, things there that aren't there. i don't think so. and i don't see any problem if it is duplicative. where has it been said that...
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supposed to happen but could happen happened so what is the difference which merrill lynch didn't with a id and jpmorgan? >> in a word, scale. jpmorgan use aig a bit but not much partly because they have internal lines of women. so yes back in 1998 the cut first on aig as discovered this super senior was back in 1998 when they went to see this wacky weird thing called super senior, are you interested in the san yes brianna on because due to regulatory arbitrage they basically do whatever they wanted and angie was super senior and had the capital. so yes jpmorgan did deal with aig quite a bit and the very beginning and, yes, it dealt with them throughout the decade, but two or three years ago far less impact jpmorgan did not lose a lot of money? >> not to the skill of many of the investors and you can see that in the figures. if you look at the breakdown of who aig was exposed to it is pretty stark. jpmorgan is really not up there in the top half-dozen from memory. you can actually see the breakdown of who benefited most from the rescue but i think jpmorgan was somewhere around 10 or 11 but
supposed to happen but could happen happened so what is the difference which merrill lynch didn't with a id and jpmorgan? >> in a word, scale. jpmorgan use aig a bit but not much partly because they have internal lines of women. so yes back in 1998 the cut first on aig as discovered this super senior was back in 1998 when they went to see this wacky weird thing called super senior, are you interested in the san yes brianna on because due to regulatory arbitrage they basically do whatever...
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. >> id is ackley the right answer and i appreciate your candor. >> senator cizik said, thank you. i'm going to call on senator begich but i want to make two points. one, i read back and read the icing issues this morning on the transcript and the copilot -- this is a quote from the transcript, i've never seen icing conditions, i've never deiced or experienced that. i don't want to have to make those calls. i would like to -- i would have seen this much ice and thought all my god we are going to crash. if you read the several descriptions from the person in the cockpit about this i think it does and why this person had minimum icing experience. the other point i want to make that senator isaacson asked about, mr. babbitt, when you travel and commuted and got a full night's rest my guess is that someone that is making 20,000, or $22,000 traveling all the way across the country isn't going to be paying rent on a hotel room or crash bed to find a place to stay because they probably can't afford it so i just want, that's a very important issue senator isaacson is raising. i apologize t
. >> id is ackley the right answer and i appreciate your candor. >> senator cizik said, thank you. i'm going to call on senator begich but i want to make two points. one, i read back and read the icing issues this morning on the transcript and the copilot -- this is a quote from the transcript, i've never seen icing conditions, i've never deiced or experienced that. i don't want to have to make those calls. i would like to -- i would have seen this much ice and thought all my god we...
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one of the great things about the internet id is it allows you to allow your readers to interact and weight have not been able to before. it's sort of broke down barriers to people being able to write their own blog and deliver their own opinions. as you said, there are but that of a web. some of great and some is not so great. we are starting to do more and more of is abrogating contents, linking to it, we often say we don't need to have the view that if it is not written by "the washington post" is not good enough. of the same time, we need to maintain our standard of journalistic integrity and make sure we know that journalists we would be linking to maintain the same standards we have in terms of checking sources, developing sources come checking facts. so i think we are more and more linking to other content that we think is worthwhile and our readers want to know about being careful to maintain our standards. >> one more question. >> good morning, my name is judith westbrook and a work noa a. i have lived here all my life and always read "the washington post." thank you for tha
one of the great things about the internet id is it allows you to allow your readers to interact and weight have not been able to before. it's sort of broke down barriers to people being able to write their own blog and deliver their own opinions. as you said, there are but that of a web. some of great and some is not so great. we are starting to do more and more of is abrogating contents, linking to it, we often say we don't need to have the view that if it is not written by "the...
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every dollar id malae, every pre-existing condition, every time i terminate somebody's health insurance because they were really sick last year and need it is a dollar more i make. it is no secret private health insurance companies hire people to find out who was sick. go over the records to make sure we don't continue that policy. i'd think that is basically in saying. that is obviously endemic within our system. and the we don't ask apparently we are not about to talk about in terms of the role of the private health insurance industry is they are responsible for giving the most costly wasteful comprehensive your credit system in the world. i just talked yesterday, the guy in my office is an attorney, smart guy. his wife has a phd. they sat down to go over federal employee benefits we have and they couldn't figure it out. ph.d. and a lawyer. there are people bombarded with hundreds of different types of programs. 1300 private companies that provide thousands of different programs and they are different if you're young, different if your old, sick, if you run the marathon, all these thi
every dollar id malae, every pre-existing condition, every time i terminate somebody's health insurance because they were really sick last year and need it is a dollar more i make. it is no secret private health insurance companies hire people to find out who was sick. go over the records to make sure we don't continue that policy. i'd think that is basically in saying. that is obviously endemic within our system. and the we don't ask apparently we are not about to talk about in terms of the...
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middle part of the book traces of the ideas developed by the credit world collided with the mortgage ids i then called perversion because in essence what happened was you had these concepts being fed into the era when credit was very cheap and in a sense tremendous bounce of regulation in the financial system and these two great intellectual screams -- streams collided to tear will affect the following essentially a crazy credit bubble and the last third of the book is called a disaster where i tell a story of how that began to fall apart and in the sense of consequences of the over reaching excesses', but within the structure of i follow the story of the jpmorgan group and there is an irony in that because although the group will i originally talked about the well to many ideas pioneered the idea is and a spotted at very early stage the risk attached to some of those and when they developed credit derivatives and about synthetic cbo's they were doing that because they were hoping to blow the system up. on the contrary they have a technology that they generally thought was going to make
middle part of the book traces of the ideas developed by the credit world collided with the mortgage ids i then called perversion because in essence what happened was you had these concepts being fed into the era when credit was very cheap and in a sense tremendous bounce of regulation in the financial system and these two great intellectual screams -- streams collided to tear will affect the following essentially a crazy credit bubble and the last third of the book is called a disaster where i...
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like to think i have solutions to a lot of america's problems, not all of them but i certainly got ids. they don't involve expanding the government. now some people say that if you are against expanding the government you are generally negative -- that's not true. i am for the market, high import indigent -- individual initiative and unleashing on japan your initial up, and health care for example which the caller mentioned insuring the uninsured is the simplest thing in the world come and give them money, give them money in the form of subsidies, vouchers, a debit card it loaded up with a certain value -- that is the simple part of it. that empowers individuals and does not make them as a madrid the coming health-care bill would do depend on the government. >> host: and i am wondering in your life you said a great deal of its and 74 as a columnist for the washington post put before that your writing and part of that teaching -- did you ever consider running for office? >> guest: not seriously but i live in maryland and have been there since the mid-70s and about 1982 as i recall some
like to think i have solutions to a lot of america's problems, not all of them but i certainly got ids. they don't involve expanding the government. now some people say that if you are against expanding the government you are generally negative -- that's not true. i am for the market, high import indigent -- individual initiative and unleashing on japan your initial up, and health care for example which the caller mentioned insuring the uninsured is the simplest thing in the world come and give...
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id is b1 that connects us, so once again use the i'm talking about connections. time for something completely different. an engine as i get letters over the 30 years generation that had been a published writer and the many letters. i noticed in those letters generally they expressed a kind of an action and i can tell you how many times i have been struggling along time to get a sentence on page down and i thought i don't think i can do this, maybe i never did have it. one of my doing? what kind of presumptuous person and i to think that i could write something down in my steny in columbia, missouri that somebody in seattle or florida would want to read it? i got a letter and somebody says something, there is one person i reached so you keep going after these little straws when you're buying, anything to keep you going especially the first draft done here and here is a letter slightly different kind -- i'm reading the first sentence or two. if you are becoming a writer this may help to a little bit. your new book is one of the dulles things i have rhetoric read. [
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and it may be on a dod network, but on the internet id certainly not and we have to recognize chris's points that anonymity isn't only highly socially valuable but protected for a lot of stuff that happens on the internet so we have to keep that in mind at the same time though making it easier to have strong authentication. why we haven't made progress as it's not a public good problem, it's a collective action problem. too many pieces need to move together at the same time for this happened organically. maybe some industry or some entity in an industry wants to use strong authentication but because there isn't a broad available way to do that they have to rule their own and it's not worth their economic time to do that and government has never provided the way to optional authenticate on wind if you want to do and so there is just the people that could act don't really have the incentive to act. where we have got to get is we have got to get to the point where if you don't want to use things like a user name and password, a set of shared secrets that may be shared but they are are re
and it may be on a dod network, but on the internet id certainly not and we have to recognize chris's points that anonymity isn't only highly socially valuable but protected for a lot of stuff that happens on the internet so we have to keep that in mind at the same time though making it easier to have strong authentication. why we haven't made progress as it's not a public good problem, it's a collective action problem. too many pieces need to move together at the same time for this happened...
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and the pharmaceutical company id the process by which the labeling of pharmaceutical products and warnings is all arranged according to a process through the food and drug administration and we had to label -- the labeling was approved and it had to be labeled that way and if you start having every different state through tort cases decide what the labeling should be, that undermines the uniformity of the expert judgment of the food and drug administration. in another decision by justice stevens, this one was 6-3, the court held that there was not an implied preemption because of the labeling requirements of the food and drug administration. justice thomas added a concurring opinion saying i just don't believe in this implied preemption at all. if we're going to hold that the federal government can do something to prevent states from regulating something, congress is going to have to be specific about it. we're just not going to assume that the states don't have power to do this sort of thing. the issues that these cases bring up that go first with respect to what are the words used by con
and the pharmaceutical company id the process by which the labeling of pharmaceutical products and warnings is all arranged according to a process through the food and drug administration and we had to label -- the labeling was approved and it had to be labeled that way and if you start having every different state through tort cases decide what the labeling should be, that undermines the uniformity of the expert judgment of the food and drug administration. in another decision by justice...
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clinton the release of the state department's annual trafficking in persons report, which again cite ide ran as a tyre 3 country, among -- as a tier 3 country among the worst as the country that does little, if anything, to prevent men, women, and children from being trafficked for sexual exploitation and involuntary servitude, slavery. likewise, as the state department's human rights report for 2008 noted, iran's poor human rights record worsened and it continued to commit numerous serious abuses. the government severely limited citizens' right to change their government peacefully through free and fair elections. authorities hilled political prisoners and intensified a crackdown against women's rights reformers, ethnic minority rights activists, student activists, and religious minorities. it is a pattern for decades system of we must look beyond the past week, which was only the most recent demonstration of the regime's brutality and authoritarianism. but the iranian regime is not just a threat to its own people. we cannot afford to lose sight of the flet that it presents to our own n
clinton the release of the state department's annual trafficking in persons report, which again cite ide ran as a tyre 3 country, among -- as a tier 3 country among the worst as the country that does little, if anything, to prevent men, women, and children from being trafficked for sexual exploitation and involuntary servitude, slavery. likewise, as the state department's human rights report for 2008 noted, iran's poor human rights record worsened and it continued to commit numerous serious...
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which is if you really want the state to be the servant and not the master, it does seem a national id card turns the relationship around in quite an ununhealthy way, and that is perhaps a more emotional reason. i think we're allowed a mixture of argument and emotion. any other questions? i know i've got some press interviews to do. yes, sir. >> in light of what you were saying about personal freedoms, i was wondering where you stood on the ideas of people holding morally abhorrent views and in some sense that's their freedom, but in others we want to suppress that, so how do you square that away? >> i think it's a debate that dose back for centuries, but i think the fundamental argument in britain should be that we're in favor of freedom of speech, that means we have to uphold the right of people whose views are repugnant to us, but the line we need to draw is one that it says it is not right to incite hatred or violence. and i think that's the key line to draw. so when it comes to something like the bnp, i'm not in favor of banning them. i think we should open their ludicrous argumen
which is if you really want the state to be the servant and not the master, it does seem a national id card turns the relationship around in quite an ununhealthy way, and that is perhaps a more emotional reason. i think we're allowed a mixture of argument and emotion. any other questions? i know i've got some press interviews to do. yes, sir. >> in light of what you were saying about personal freedoms, i was wondering where you stood on the ideas of people holding morally abhorrent views...
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supreme court where it upheld in indiana statute involving id. they identify the legitimate interest that a state has to prevent fraud and cited specifically -- >> and i just go back to erlandson for a minute? we said there are on page 732, by treating similar situated voters differently with no rational explanation, the statute violates equal protection guarantees. and so that's the argument that's made here is that similarly situated absentee voters are being treated differently. and you would articulate a rational explanation for that different treatment as what? >> as the need for the counties in the precincts to have the flexibility to allow elections to work. the fact is in pine county where there may be one street called main. in minneapolis there maybe 20 streets that have main. so in minneapolis you may need a different standard for whether or not it says mainstreet, maine avenue, main boulevard. whether it has a directional -- >> is there evidence in the record to support this rational explanation that you're offering now? spivak there
supreme court where it upheld in indiana statute involving id. they identify the legitimate interest that a state has to prevent fraud and cited specifically -- >> and i just go back to erlandson for a minute? we said there are on page 732, by treating similar situated voters differently with no rational explanation, the statute violates equal protection guarantees. and so that's the argument that's made here is that similarly situated absentee voters are being treated differently. and...