folks with is that it's very important that people stay informed, they educate policy levels -- , ifcymakers at all levels we have community-based affiliations you work with, there are other ways people can get involved. >> thank you very much. i'm glad to appear there is a positive take. i think that makes a lot of sense that the census does have a history of being bipartisan and a lot of people see value in that. when people -- when things get a little bit off the trail, there. can you speak a little about what we as lawyers can do to engage? >> thank you, thank you for having me. it is an honor to be with three co-panelists are no immense amounts about the senses -- who know immense amounts about the census. to pick up on john's indication that invitation, let me use as a case study one set of legal concerns that our institute for constitutional advocacy and protection worked with a number of other groups to articulate with respect to leadership at the census bureau. i will provide one other set of legal concerns. it's a good case study. as you look at a broad array of issues, you've got