talk about who is considered immuno compromised and eligible for a third shot. >> this is significant. we've seen this play out in countries around the world and i think a lot of people need to be wondering when this is happening in the united states. and i think it's imminent as kaitlan just said if the fda does make this recommendation it'll be followed by the cdc just like we saw with the vaccines. the fda recommended we see the same thing and soon after that we could see these shots going out maybe this weekend or early next week. it could be that fast. it is about 3% to 4% of the population we're talking about, about 9 to 10 people. your immune system isn't able to crete the immune response to the vaccines other people do. so people who have received chemotherapy, hiv aids patiences and people who received organ transplants or immune yo suppressant drugs. this is study that just came out of the new england journal of medicine. focus on the bottom left of that screen, the red line is what happens when someone got the first two shots, and then they have the third shot and they prod

especially when it comes to immuno compromised individuals and other groups.ts have said in the u.s. that there is not the justification or thevidence at least at this point. that is a different discussion. i think you can have global equity while protecting the most vulnerable in all populations. laura: thank you so much for joining us. other news from around the world. you are watching bbc world news america. still to come on tonight's program -- the bbc uncovers evidence of a shadowy russian mercenary group fighting in libya's civil war. ♪ >> algeria has declared three days of mourning for at least 65 people who have been killed in wifires. our north africa corredent reports. reporter: this is not a natural disaster, according to a jury and officials. but the work of arsonists. it is in difficult and strenuous moments like this that the capacities of the state and the distress that many algerians have in it are laid bare. >> the people and citizens are paying the price. the fires have reached our homes. we have three dead and four wounded people who were br

that certain population would be those that are immuno compromised, so right now we are waiting to hear from the fda about a third booster shot that would be approved for that population. as you know it's coming at a time when covid cases are on the rise and folks going back to school and the delta variant is running rampant across the country and in the bay area. nbc learned the fda is expected to approve a booster shot from pfizer and moderna. thursday, we're learning the immuno compromised are those that had a heart, lung or bone marrow transplant. friday on cdc advisory committee is scheduled to vote on recommending who should get the dose. one doctor says while he believes the first approval will be specifically for those whose body have not had a strong response because of their condition or because of the drugs they are on because of the surgery, he believes a booster may ultimately include other vulnerable populations. >> my guess is it will be restricted to patients with known imuno compromise, but eventually that may be widened. >> reporter: the nation's top doctor, dr. anthon

so people who are immuno suppressed know that they are less protected.y very worried about it, particularly as we enter another very scary wave in the united states. to know that they have the opportunity to try to increase that immune protection is really important. >> so what's the plausibility that even a third shot will not give immunocompromised people, specifically transplant recipients who you are studying, the protection that the larger population gets from just the two shots? >> so a lot of this we're still learning. some people who are immuno suppressed are going to be fine with two doses. some people, the third dose is all they're going to need. some people might even need a fourth booster dose to really get them there to a nice level of immune protection, and some people will not even be protected by all of that. in our trial, one of the things that we're hoping to explore is, for example, if somebody is on immuno suppression can we change their immuno suppression to give them a better chance of having a vaccine response. >> so is there a ris

so we'll see tomorrow when they announce the third immunization for immuno compromised individuals and at beyond solid organ transplant recipients, whether they'll give us a hint of what's going on with non-immuneo compromised. >> a booster for some immuno compromised is a big development. but i want you to listen to vivev murthy what he told cnn tonight. >> while we think boosters will be needed for a broader set of the population what we're trying to vig yr out when to initiate those doses and who should the doses be available to based on where the need is greatest. >> you say there's a high likelihood a booster will be necessary for everyone regardless of health. when do you see that happening? >> we've been talking about this almost a whole year now and that's to build in greater resill resilience to all the variants coming in from abroad. so i'm anticipating a booster, a third immunization for quite some time. what caught us off-guard a little bit is when the if i see ceo put out a presser saying we need to do it for delta and not really providing any of the supporting information

it will be the over 50s and the immuno — it will be the over 50s and the immuno compromise. going to ramp— i think the government is going to ramp up— i think the government is going to ramp up the vaccination for pharmacies with 2000 pharmacies waiting _ pharmacies with 2000 pharmacies waiting to — pharmacies with 2000 pharmacies waiting to do all this so that gp surgeries— waiting to do all this so that gp surgeries can get on with treating patients— surgeries can get on with treating patients and getting to grips with some _ patients and getting to grips with some of— patients and getting to grips with some of the backlog perhaps that has built up _ some of the backlog perhaps that has built up -- _ some of the backlog perhaps that has built up. —— via pharmacies. this is a massive — built up. —— via pharmacies. this is a massive exercise and it has been the most _ a massive exercise and it has been the most tremendous success, we can be so _ the most tremendous success, we can be so proud _ the most tremendous success, we can be so proud of the way in which this vaccine

many of these are occurring in the context of people who may be severely immuno come from is and are doing so in advance of our recommendation. one thing i want to highlight in the context of this is it does undermine our ability to monitor safety in this context. we are asking people to follow our guidance. the fda will stay in the coming days. [indiscernible] >> next question. >> last question. reuters. >> dr. fauci said this morning on an interview that he believes boosters in general are inevitability. i was wondering how soon you expect that you might make a decision on that, and what sort of data are you looking for, to make that decision? >> well, when i made that statement, it is a true statement that we believe sooner or later, you will need a booster for durability and protection. right now, as we mentioned, we are evaluating this, looking at a number of studies both international and domestic studies, and as we stated many times, at this moment come apart from the immuno compromised, which was just discussed, we do not believe others, elderly or non-elderly who are not imm

not just the immuno compromise. >> so, folks, i am going to rule out b because that is absolutely true. the vaccines are effective at preventing hospitalizations. even with delta. i see some of you are saying c is the live. some say a. i think the cdc also needs to evaluate data. i am going to say c is the life. >> final answer? >> let me check. we have people all over the place. >> you are correct. you are astute. it is important for people to know this. this has been reported -- it is kind of a reversal in the order when it comes to recommending vaccines or any interventional matters. the white house give out first and made these boosters available for everyone. we need a co-advisor -- advisory committee to weigh in, which is probably going to happen around august 24. while there is evidence right now, as the cdc director suggested along with dr. fauci, to say everyone needs to get a booster, we still need the final approval and all of the data. number one is a sobering reality, 1.3% of people in lower income countries have received vaccine. that is unacceptable. we are never going t

but also, erica, we have known now for sometime that people who are immuno compromised, even if theyere vaccinated, were close to 500 times more likely to end up in the hospital versus those who were healthy and vaccinated. so it's not just the antibodies, it's the fact that they were getting sick as well. >> so important to look at that full picture. this obviously invites questions about when sorts of the general population may need an additional shot. dr. fauci addressed that last night. here's what he had to say. >> right now the decision is we don't need to do it right now. it's not imminent. but we're preparing as if it will be imminent. so we're going to be ready to do it whenever the data shows that the protection is gone below a certain level because of a combination of the durability of protection and the special effect you're seeing with the delta variant. >> so, as we're waiting to find out, sanjay, when that might be, i think it's also important -- and i'm not the medical professional. i think it's important, too, there seems to be a sense if i have to get a booster shot

>> thank you for that question, immuno-compromised individual are vulnerable. the reason is it is clear now from the observational data that was made that they do not make, in general, with some exceptions, they do not make an adequate response that we feel would be adequately protected. so in this regard, it is extremely important for us to move to get those individuals there boosters. -- their boosters. we are now working on that and will make that be implemented as quickly as possible, because for us, for the individuals involved, it is a very high priority. >> next question. >> let's go to cbs. >> -- reporter: thank you so much for taking my question. dr. fauci and dr. wilensky have both warned the virus might mutate and perhaps into a string that is powerful enough to evade the vaccine. is there anyway to gauge how long before the virus overtakes the vaccine? we understand what that means for the vaccine. is there a way to tweak it, in that situation, an order to give us protection? -- in order to give us protection? >> let me start with you, dr. fauci. >>

i'm hearing everyday from immuno compromised people in the u.s.m i supposed to get a third shot? i could run down to the pharmacy and get one. no one would be the wiser. they are really, really looking for guidance in this area. >> so discussion about the third shot for some heats up. again, a lot of the focus son getting people who don't have it their first shot but we can have both discussions at the same time. >> right. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. >> thanks. >>> tomorrow a very special edition of "new day" in our 8:00 a.m. hour answering your questions about the new coronavirus surge. tweet your questions to us directly. you can send to brianna or me. either one of us. or tweet them online or send them online at cnn.com coronavirus questions. >>> disturbing new revelations on how far donald trump went in attempts to get the election overturned. and what one lawyer calls the worst crime committed by a president ever. >>> plus, washington, d.c. mayor muriel bowser under fire for something she did after reinstated her mask mandate. >>>

it would be for those immuno compromised, and it's coming at a time when the delta variant is very muchsent not only here in the bay area but across the country. here's what we know right now about the third shot. fda, we are learning the immuno compromised people are people with a organ transplant and that on friday a cdc committee is scheduled to vote on recommending which people should get the dose. one doctor says while he believes the first approval will be specifically for those whose body did not have a strong response, he believes the booster will be expanded to include other vulnerable populations. >> my guess is it will be restricted to patients with no imuno compromise, but eventually, that may be widened. >> reporter: the nation's top doctor, dr. anthony fauci, just appeared on the "today" show discussing the third dose, and take aissses how more than the immuno compromised may need more than a booster shot. >> what we are doing on a weekly and monthly basis is following cohorts of patients to determine if, when and whom should get it, but right now at this moment other than

so far they have not recommended a third shot for people who are not immuno compromised because data indicates the vaccines are effective at protecting people from the delta variant. if and when health leaders do recommend a booster shot, dr. collins says health care workers, people who live in nursing homes, and older americans will be the first to get those doses. >>> people with weakened immune systems continue getting their third dose with the pfizer and moderna vaccines in the south bay. at the county fairgrounds in san jose today, the second day the third doses have been offered. for jeffrey dahl who had a double lung transplant the third dose is offering peace of mind to him and his wife. >> because i've had a transplant and i'm taking immuno suppressants, i feel that i need the shot to keep myself safe. >> it gives a lot of people peace of mind and i just think it is comforting. >> reporter: the third dose is only being offered right now to those with compromised immune systems. people will have to attest to their condition before getting the shot. >>> back to the classroom f

we'll just over a week after they became eligible immuno compromised. people in marin county were able to get their third covid vaccine shots today. ktvu is amanda katana was at a vaccine clinic in san rafel today and spoke to some people relieved to have this additional layer of protection against the virus. the goal today was to get about 1300 shots to immuno compromised individuals in marin county, but they want you to understand that this is different from the booster shots. it's not a booster. it's those people that need to help build the antibody response greater than what they may be experience from their original series of vaccine while a healthy person likely built up antibodies to the virus after just two shots, people fighting a severe infection like those undergoing cancer treatments likely need a third. shot as early as 28 days after their second, the more vulnerable individuals need that anybody boost now we're healthy individuals likely got their full immune response that they needed. and now after, you know, close two years time need a l

. >> reporter: booster shots are about to get the green light but only for people they define as immuno compromised. >> that includes people who have had some sort of organ transplant, heart transplant, lung transplant, bone marrow transplant. people who are on pretty heavy duty chemotherapy. >> reporter: the doctor from stanford children's health said she's already been fielding lots of questions about getting a third shot. special little because of the rapid spread of the delta variant. he says he already knows many who are on the humidity for a booster. this would make it easier for those at greatest risk to get it. >> you can't order it. because the rules don't allow it. so basically, patients, some of them are doing it on their own by going to a different site that doesn't know of them and getting another dose. >> reporter: because the vaccines are still under emergency use authorization, there are strict rules doctors have to follow. it is likely the groups approved will be those whose immune systems didn't mount a strong response to the first doses, either because of their condit

there might be some people who have some degree of immuno compromise.eone who is an organ recipient, maybe they're essential workers. maybe they live at home with somebody who is unvaccinated. maybe for these individuals they should also be getting a booster shot at this time to increase their immune protection. and so for the general public, it may be awhile before we are recommended to have a booster, but i hope that people are given the option to have a booster, especially because we have so many doses that are expiring and are going to waste. >> yeah, and that's certainly not what we want to see, is any more doses go to waste. dr. leana wen, always good to talk with you. thank you. >> thank you. >>> still to come, three defamation lawsuits against rudy giuliani, mypillow c.e.o. mike lindell and sidney powell will move forward to trial. what does this mean for them and what does it mean about what we could all learn in terms of former president trump's attempts to overturn the election? >>> senator rand paul's wife purchased stock in a drug to treat

. >> those who are immuno compromised.als who say no one else needs a booster for now. cnn medical analyst and former baltimore health commissioner dr. leana wen joins us also the author of the new book "lifelines" a doctor's journey in the fight for public health. dr. wen, thank you so much for joining us. why right now are health officials in the u.s. so sure that people do not -- the general population doesn't need another booster since we are seeing places like israel say that everyone over 50 does need to get one? >> i don't think our health officials should be so sure at this point. the fda and cdc made the right decision but a lot of people may not be severely immuno compromised and may have some degree of immuno compromise and may be in high risk conditions for example they live with somebody unvaccinated. they are essential workers. maybe they should be getting a booster as well. we in the u.s. don't have the kind of data collection that others have. i hope there will be a concerted effort to look at other countri

but these immuno compromised people make up for about 44% of hot. hospitalized breakthrough cases nationwide again, according to the cdc. the panel, which includes a doctor from stanford university, voted unanimously saying the pros outweigh the cons. even during the panel's public comments. each person spoke in favor of the booster shot. one of those speakers is from san mateo county. i am also over 65 with several risk factors. severe covid if infected, i've been fully vaccinated for 153 days, so we need to find shoes. our efforts to increase vaccine. this vote comes after the fda moved to recommend these boosters overnight. there was also talk about whether a supplement shot for those with johnson and johnson vaccines right now, the cdc's says they are still looking at data to see if there's enough evidence to support that san francisco and sf general. if you remember have been offering those supplemental shots for about a week. i reached out to their health offices this morning. about today's cdc vote, and they are still waiting for more specifi

. >> reporter: like in immuno compromised freshman, he was the first of his high school classmates to be diagnosed in july. and one of the first to get vaccinated in early february. >> ohio saw it was, i-- how i s is if i get it, i can go back to normal things. >> not everyone in jack's family feels that way. his mom, has been fighting vaccine hesitancy in her home for months. >> it split our family. i have a son that will not get it seems that there's no inbetween. you are absolutely or absolutely not. and i have yet to figure out what the absolutely not is about. >> a we are seeing that kind of split all over the country right now. here in missouri. if health officials are doing what they can to flood social media and really get the information out. they are beefing up incentives and one of the incentives is a state funded raffle. we are up to 900 people that can win 10,000 dollars in cash. what eth hbeen doing here, it's working. last night, we got a text message and she said her last hold out son is preparing to get vaccinated and promised to do it today. >> some communities in ca

to help manage her lupus, she takes immuno surpress ens. >> i was going to be exposed a people on the airplane and angry people on the airplanes and did not want to get involved in it. our hospitals are filling up fast and we are one of the largest in the nation. i don't know if there's going to be room if i end up going. >> reporter: her ailing grandfather led her to change her mind. >> i have been keeping in the back of my mind, i may need to make a short notices t trip to him. if i take a risk for anything. it should be family. >> and there may be a bright spot for the airlines, it showed that that more than a quarter of those that postponed their travel, plan to head out in october. you are watching the "cbs overnight news." coarse hair thin skin when i'm shaving down there not just any razor will do venus for pubic hair and skin with a patented irritation defense bar for a smooth shave with blades that barely touch skin (clicking sound) hear that? ♪ thfill deorantirst uminum-free our best care for you... for them... for the planet join the refillable revolution yeah, i mean the t

did they explain why not all all immuno compromised people.t the group we're discussing. >> they did describe this to some extent. it's still confusing. t they're looking at moderate or severe immuno compromised people. people who may be vulnerable because of chronic conditions. this is really talking about people who because of their weakened immune systems, the vaccine did not generate an immune response in the first place. keep in mind, this population of people we're talking about, the ones we just listed on that graphic there, if they are vaccinated compared to the general population who is vaccinated

but we do know that for a small subset of the population, immune -- immuno compromised people, a booster might be good for them. we do know some companies like germany have already started vaccinating people, the elderly and people with immuno compromised problems. >> if you are not in that subset of people and you're otherwise healthy and you've had the moderna vaccine or pfizer, are we talking like this winter or are we talking sooner than that? what do you see as far as the timeline here? >> it's so frustrating. it remains to be seen. so far the data from the state's pfizer foundation is doing a great job. really we're not seeing any clear uptick in people who are fully vaccinated. i think until we do, that will be an indication for a booster for the general population. it's not yet but it being closely monitored. >> it's always great to have your expertise on the show. heidi and katie, thank you both as well. we're going to talk more about the state of the pandemic in this state in a minnesota. we want to go to the potential impeachment of governor cuomo. just within the last few min

colfax stressed how important it is for those that are immuno compromised get booster shots and they are available for you. you can make your appointment with your provider. i will say that i just checked on my phone and they do have a lot of openings as we speak. >> going back to a possible fifth surge, experts are saying all this, is this just part of our life now? despite having 20 times more cases than we were seeing in june, we have a total of two deaths so far. significant lower. he says while we may have more ahead of us, it hopefully won't be as bad that we are seeing right now. >> if we adapt, hopefully the virus does not. >> coming up tonight, a 7 on your side investigation. it turns out it is not because of the pandemic, it is because of something terrible that happened 25 years ago. courts the pandemic cost thousands of people their jobs. see how one mom made the most of it. >> are there any actions that you have taken as governor that you think was a mistake? >> out think there is a human being that can look back over the last 2.5 years grass looks great, zeus! hey could

and we know that as of now, we should be offering a third dose of vaccine to anyone immuno compromised it was eligible for vaccination. but looking at data over the last week or two from data through july, because it was important to understand the impact of the delta variant, we are starting to see waning immunity with regard to symptomatic infection, not severe infection, but some emetic infection. so we are staying ahead of this virus and what we are saying is that we are planning for a time, september 20, to say as we are finding symptomatic infections waning, we are not seeing severe hospitalizations and hospitalizations waning, that is remaining stable, but as we are looking out of other countries, we are seeing worsening outcomes in other countries. in the context of all of these studies, different cohorts and different settings across the country and our international colleagues, we made the decision to plan for these future doses. jeff: dr. murthy, do you want to address the 16 and 17-year-olds? dr. murthy: when it comes to 16 and 17-year-olds and minors in general, we are goi

did they explain why not all all immuno compromised people. just the group we're discussing. >> they did describe this to some extent. it's still confusing. t they're looking at moderate or severe immuno compromised people. people who may be vulnerable because of chronic conditions. this is really talking about people who because of their weakened immune systems, the vaccine did not generate an immune response in the first place. keep in mind, this population of people we're talking about, the ones we just listed on that graphic there, if they are vaccinated compared to the general population who is vaccinated, they were nearly 500 times more likely to end up in the hospital. that's what drove this decision. they're likely to have a weakened immune response to the vaccine and more likely to get sick as well. it's a testament to the pharmacist that you fall into one of these categories and you should gept a third shot. >> third shot of which vaccine? >> what the official guidance is you should get the same shot. let me explain that. the reason

preliminary and these booster shots have not yet received fda approval for anyone except for the immuno, the folks we heard about the news last week. people on chemo or high dose steroids or immuno suppressive disorders nuclear program is pro active anticipating more data is in the works showing that it is both that the vaccines effectiveness seems to be waning a little bit over time and that this dealt at that variant is worse. but let me be clear even more important than a booster is getting those shots in the first place. if you have those first two shots you're still protected against delta. the booster is the icing on the cake. >> on the far-right of this graphic, the administration most governors not all but most governors encouraging people please if you haven't been vaccinated, 291,000 people are getting vaccinated on a seven day average. this is why. as we continue the conversation. 99% of the country now lives in a community with either high or substantial covid transmission. the cdc says even if you're fully vaccinated, mask newspaper doors or most situations. if you look at

the fda is expected to green light booster shots for immuno compromised people at first, as soon as the next 48 hours. today the cdc took a step to emdoris vaccines for pregnant women citing new data finding no increased risk of miscarriage. this comes amidst vaccine mandates. employees of amtrak for one were the latest to learn they have to get the shot or submit to weekly testing on the job. the same goes for all staff working in california schools. governor gavin nooms is the first state leader to put such a requirement into place. >> we think this is the right thing to do and we think this is a sustainable way to keeping our schools open and to address the number one anxiety that parents like myself have. i have four young children. and that is knowing that the schools are doing everything in their power to keep our kids safe. >> on the political front at home we are getting another account of the lengths to which the former president was willing to go in order to hold on to power. katie benner of the "new york times" was first on the board with reporting about the testimony of a fo

the eight-month window are for those who are not otherwise immuno compromised.shot for the immuno compromised, their normal series, a booster is exactly that, and we get boosters for things like tetanus, and it helps us to increase what our natural immune system response is, literally a boost. >> genie rights, my partner and i were exposed to covid on july 24th and became symptomatic on the 30th and tested positive on august 4th. my question is, if we get the booster vaccine, do we get it three months after having covid or eight months after the last dose of the vaccine? doctor? >> great question. we still are recommending at least a 90-day kind of difference between your symptomatic covid infection, because your body is also responding when you are infected as you were in august, so i would recommend that you wait those 90 days. you are in a high risk profession, however, you may want to talk to your own physician, and there could be a reason for you to go ahead and get that booster sooner rather than later. >> this is the best information we have at this time,

. >> booster shots are about to get the green light but only for people who they define as immuno compromised. >> that transplant, heart transplants, and people on heavy duty chemotherapy. >> she has been already fielding questions about the booster shot. she already knows people on the hunt for a booster. the expected fda approval would make it easier for those at greatest risk to get it. >> some of them are just doing it on their own by going to a different site that doesn't know of them and getting another dose. >> there are strict rules doctors have to follow regarding its loose. it's likely the groups approved for the first dose, there are groups that say the approval needs to be widened to include seniors and the disabled. >> my guess is it will be restricted to patients with known imuno compromised. >> he said doctors will have much broader authority on dosage and use, and the fda will be making an announcement by thursday, and a cdc panel will fine off on a final approval and recommended use. >>> california's latest covid case numbers shows just how much less at risk you are if you ar

. >> people under treatment for cancer, getting immuno compromising drugs, organ transplant recipients. >> 100,000 new cases every it will be up to the cdc panel to make a recommendation on who should get those booster shots. that committee is meeting tomorrow. dr. anthony fauci is on gma talking about the plan for booster shot for everyone and if you will need to stick with the one that you initially got. >> the strong recommendation obviously would be to stay with the shot that you have originally gotten. we are doing studies now that are mix and match, showing that it is unlikely there will be a problem going from one to the other. kumasi: you can watch his fullul interview on gma coming up at 7:00. at least one million people have already received authorized booster shots. julian: the moderna vaccine found to be more effective than the pfizer vaccine given the delta variant. >> in this specific study, moderna might be doing a little bit better. julian: it was 76% effective against the delta variant, pfizer was 42% effective. the study has not been peer-reviewed as of yet. julian: -

our booster dose of covid-19 safe of immuno genetic? it's not unsafe to get a third shot, but just how much more protection does it offer the three of us that are talking here versus people who are, you know, quite elderly at greater risk? i think that's some of the data that i would want to see. in israel, for example, some of the data they first released were primarily in patients who were on hemodialysis, kidney patients. that's a different subgroup. i'm not sure if you can take that data and apply it to the whole population. but nevertheless, it sounds like this is happening, that they are going to recommend booster shots for people eight months out from the original shots. a >> for most people that would mean already good protection would be really, really good protection against serious illness. we have to see some of the data, sanjay. thank you very much for being with us this morning, helping us understand this. >> you got it. thank you. >>> there is an urgent situation unfolding in afghanistan. president biden, of course, vowed

renal transplant patient who i saw who has been locked in his house the past 18 months because his immunopressants or other people for instance receiving disease modifying therapy for like multiple sclerosis who also need booster shots. what do we tell the elderly who research suggests may have more rapidly declining immunity? what do we tell healthcare workers in the united states now facing another surge who were vaccinated now eight months ago? and are at risk in their battle to treat patients in this latest surge? so, i think the united states should do both. i think we should continue to donate as many vaccines to the world and do what's necessary in a tiered way to boost the people who need to be boosted in this country? >> professor, taylor what about that? >> i think that's right. it doesn't need to be and set up as a binary choice. we're in the midst of a shift for the first six months of 2021 limited supply has been the rate limiter in terms of vaccinations around the world and we're now shifting into a phase where that's not the case. and the rate limiter will be distribution a

yes, there's waning of protection with immuno compromising position or older.be narrow who we give them to, 80% of the world remains unvaccinated. >> shaq, you're in detroit where some are getting the third shot. who qualifies, how does it work. >> reporter: yes, it is a drive up vaccination clinic, but it reopened to allow people to get a third vaccination dose. what are the requirements. you have to be fully vaccinated six months, vaccinated with pfizer or the moderna vaccine, and you have to say that you have a compromised immune system. i spoke to the health director here. there's not a verification process. they want to cut through bureaucracy, have people come in and say they have that compromised immune system. the mayor is describing it as a new phase of the pandemic effort but one thing they're seeing, although they're not seeing the surge you have in the southern part of the country, their vaccination rates in terms of people partially vaccinated in detroit are lower than the rest of the state. rest of the state is at 60%. detroit is just over 42%. th

people who may recently had chemotherapy, immuno suppressants because of auto immune disease.y need to define that clearly but it's going to make a big difference in millions of people's lives, i think. in fact, i want to introduce you to a patient who has been struggling with this and is probably now going to live a different life after this is officially passed by the cdc. take a look. ♪ 39-year-old kimberly got her second dose of the covid-19 vaccine back in february. she hoped at the time it would be a game changer. >> i knew there was a possibility that it would not work for me. but given the situation with covid and the pandemic, it was definitely worth the try. >> she lived her life, hugged her nephews, felt free once again. but then -- >> i went to a local clinic near my home and requested an antibodies test. and received the results and i did not mount any antibodies. >> it wasn't a surprise for kimberly because back in 2018 she had had a liver transplant and now takes medications to suppress her immune system so her new liver isn't rejected. unfortunately, that also

do people go to the pharmacy and say they're immuno compromised? do they have to have a note from a doctor? will doctors give the third dose? how does it work? >> this is an important consideration and it's not been worked out yet. we have people who really need the additional immunization versus those who just want it. the world health organization put out a statement calling on a moratorium on booster doses for these people who don't have the this kind of immune condition. but want a third dose. this isn't a booster, this is a third dose of a three-dose series that immune compromised people should get. we have to work this out. i think people are going back to their primary doctors so that the record management will be complete. and people will get permission to do that. >> sanjay, a study by johns hopkins researchers found that they're 485 times more likely to end up in the hospital or die compared to those vaccinated. why did experts think they'd be protected and might not need this third dose and why did it apparently turn out -- didn't turn o

not the eight months the fda is concerning for general approval, and you need to say that you are immunopromised immune system. we have been seeing dozens of people come and get their vaccine. there's a lot of excitement for these people, especially as they watch the surge of the virus and other places. listen how they put it and their explanations of why they chose to come on day one of getting that third shot. >> it's important to me to be protected. so whenever they was going to offer it, i was going to be here. >> this virus, and the pandemic is so deadly and it's extra protection we need. >> i feel like it's better to be with the vaccine than to be without. common sense. >> as i was in there talking to folks it was not lost on me the idea that here in detroit the percentage of those that have one shot, partially vaccinated is only 40%, and that lags the state which is about 60%, and you have people rushing to get the third dose of the vaccine where you have 60% of the population here in the city still unwilling to get that first shot. you get the concern, and you get the affect of t

>> i'm definitely up for giving third shots to immuno compromise folks. it is clear where the evidence is. i'm definitely clear and giving elderly because they are the risk of doing the worst if their immunity drops. we have not really seen a signal yet. i think the cdc might be sitting on some data showing a decline in efficacy against hospitalizations and serious disease, but so far from the u.k., even israel, and the u.s., we have not seen that decline in efficacy, so for right now, the rest of the population, i don't think it is urgent yet, and i think it is up to the rest of the world when we are talking about three, sometimes four shots, and many countries don't have one shot yet, so that is kind of where i'm sitting, a little bit of discomfort. >> i see. certainly a lot to take into account. not only what is happening in the bay area in the u.s. but also across the u.s. thank you so much for being here this afternoon. next up, we will be talking about wildfire smoke, the short-term and long-term impact on kids and what we can do about it. we are >>

. >> because i had a transplant and i am taking immuno suppressants, i feel i need the shot to keep myself safe. >> it gives a lot of people piece of mind, and i think it's comforting. >> a third dose is only being offered with compromised immune systems, and like mr. dahl people will have to attest to their condition before getting that shot. >>> stanford now requiring regular covid testing for all students. weekly test will be a must regardless of vaccination status. university also says if a student develops symptoms they will have to be tested immediately and complete a health check. since march of 2020, the university recorded a total of 261 positive tests among the students. >>> it's back to the classroom for students in san francisco tomorrow. all campuses in the city will be open in the san francisco unified school district. employees must be fully vaccinated started september 7th or face weekly testing, and they are considering a vaccine mandate for students 12 years and up. students will be screened for covid symptoms every day and must wear a mask at all times. >>> and the great

those who are immuno compromise, the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions, are certainly at however, it does not negate the fact that our colleagues, health care workers across the globe have yet to receive a vaccine. i myself have family members in africa who do not have access to a vaccine.. so, i still believe that while this is a difficult conversation, i fully cannot get behind this type of push without assurances that, even above the 600 million doses of vaccines the u.s. has given, the 870 million that have been dedicated from the g-7 in june, there needs to be more to address vaccine doses, to address manufacturing ramping up, and to address the red tape at the pharmaceutical level that is making it difficult for us to get these vaccines into arms. >> thank you so much for speaking to us. we'll see exactly how this plays out with the american public. the first doses would be administered next month. you're watching "bbc world news america." still to come. calls for help seemingly unanswered. the people of haiti say they are still -- there's no assistance days after t

particularly those that are high risk, many of us dealing with immuno compromised patients, we ask themcome in and see if they can access a third dose or sorry, second dose in their case. boosters are an interesting scenario. this is coming at the heel of new data showing immunity seems to wane in those over 65, data was updated monday shows for those over 65, got a second dose in january, they saw effectiveness for severe disease go down to 55%. that's not in line with data from mayo last month that showed in a study you can still be protected from severe disease, although you may get more break through infections. boosters keep more hospitalizations from occurring in that group, and could be helpful for everybody, may reduce transmission. if you get more break through infections and the vaccinated in some cases could transmit to others, maybe that reduces transmission. the only thing i will say, it doesn't solve two big problems we have. one is majority of the pandemic is driven by people that chose not to be vaccinated, not even getting the first dose. and sets us further behind in g

people who take immuno suppressant drugs for organ transplants, hiv people, all these types of thingsthey are the types of patients we're talking about. the issue is they were not mounting the same sort of antibody response to the vaccines in the first place. so third shot was a term you use, and that's probably the right term, it's not so much a booster as a third shot. let me show you a study they paid attention to. the left bar basically that red is what happened the antibodies they got after their first series of shots. they didn't generate a lot of antibodies. but look how much that improved after they got that third shot. they got a lot of neutralizing antibodies. the placebo with the blue. that is the data that influenced that we're about to hear from the fda and subsequently by the cdc will recommend this for people with weakened immune systems. maybe this weekend could see the third shot. >> 3 million people? >> i think closer to 9 or 10 people. 4% or so of the population falls into this category. they have to define that, though. to be clear, exactly what immunocompromised m

the age of 60 is that the way the fda and cdc would go maybe when they make the announcement about immuno suppressive therapy, maybe they'll address other groups as well. >> for now, wear masks indoors, get vaccinated thanks so much. >>> we hear from the woman who is set to become new york's first female governor. she's set to start in 13 days when governor andrew cuomo says he will officially leave office. >> i'm looking forward to a smooth transition. i'm ready. i want people to know i'm ready for this it's not something we expected or asked for, but i am fully prepared to assume the responsibilities as the 57s governor of the state of new york. >> take a look at the front pages and headlines of some of the newspapers and tabloids in new york today see that one on the end? "at the end of his grope." "creep out." during her news conference, soon to be governor kathy hochul made it a point to distance herself from governor cuomo, facing multiple criminal probes after a state investigation concluded he sexually harassed 11 women, including his own staffers governor cuomo has strongly denie

booster shots for immuno compromised patients were approved last week. >>> naomi osaka will donate her haiti earthquake relief efforts. nearly 1300 people were killed when a 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck saturday. for more news, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. m elise pre on, cbs news, new york. >>> it's monday, august 16th, 2021. this is the "cbs morning news." afghanistan's sudden fall. the taliban take control of the war-torn country. the chaotic airport scene overnight as residents try to flee kabul. >>> search for survivors. crews dig through rubble after a 7.2-magnitude earthquake in haiti. why rescue efforts could be hampered over the next few days. >>> historic increase. food stamp benefits are going up for 42 million americans. the largest hike in the the largest hike in the program's history. captioning funded by cbs >>> good morning. i'm tom hanson in for anne-marie green.

. >>> taking a look at your top headlines, the fda could authorize covid booster shots for the immunopromised in just the next 48 hours. so will we all need one eventually? we asked stanford's dr. maldonado who sits on the cdc immunization advisory committee. >> the original study for the vaccine started last year around this time and we knew that we would have one year follow-up data to look and see how much the immunity lasts from year on. so on friday we'll have a meeting with the cdc group to look at the data and see how well the immunity is holding up at this point and whether or not the immunity should be used. >> meanwhile, the cdc is now officially recommending that all pregnant women get vaccinated. the same data showed no increased risk of miscarriage from the shot. >>> in los angeles, the city council voted today to move one step closer to a vaccine mandate for most public indoor spaces. lawyers are drafting a law which could require a law requiring entering restaurants, gyms and entertainment venues to show proof of vaccination. >>> a new morning political poll show that 5

today, the cdc director signed off o vaccine dose for certain immuno compromised people. that is just 2.7% of americans, including those with organ transplants and in cancer treatment. it only applies to those who received the pfizer or moderna vaccine speed dr. -- vaccine. dr. patel explained the extra dose. dr. patel: there is no doctor's note or health records needed. it is based on the honor system. you will be on the honor code to say you have a weakened immune system. ama: the cdc says some people have already gotten a third dose. dan: with cities like san francisco making vaccination mandatory for indoor activities, more people are attempting to register their vaccine digitally with the state. millions of digital records have been delivered to date. but our reporter found out the process has not been easy for everyone. melanie: californians have options when it comes to proving they are vaccinated. you could care your card with you, take a picture on your phone or register your vaccine record digitally with the state. this lafayette resident figured the last option