. >> so, the fact that the defense did not put him on the stand really is inconsequential? >> it's inconsequential to me because juries are instructed not to comment on the silence of a defendant. it is inconsequential that there was an interview with the police and it would have been very, very difficult to overcome and the emotion to overcome the defense on the stand would have been difficult for him. >> in your defense, they are saying the threshold for convicting a doctor is efficient. is that why some people might have been surprised by this? >> i think who the person is, in this case, we have a doctor who was taking care of probably the most famous person ever on this planet. everyone loved michael jackson. i think there was a lot of external factors to consider here. i think juries take their oath very seriously as did this jury. who he was in the community, i think factored in. when you strip it down, when you look at the facts, there was absolutely no explanation for the use of that medication. >> do you think the emotion that those audio tapes brought about, for p

this is something i think americans have been dreaming about, is having washington be as inconsequential in their lives as they can be, and i'm going to go to washington d.c. and step on some toes. i might have to take a sledgehammer with me to do it, but i guarantee you we will talk about it every day until the congressmen and the washington bureaucracy understands something, they work for us, not the other way around. >> let me ask you something. there's been a lot made in the 53 seconds you had in the one debate when you forgot the one department you wanted to cut. later in the program i want to make a comparison. the president in one speech multiple times, doesn't know what a navy man is. he says corpse man. he said all of you on this memorial day, and i see you out there, he doesn't know the difference between memorial day and veteran's day. i have been to 57 states now? and i say this because i think there's a double standard in the media. i thought you had a really funny exchange to deal with what every candidate is going to have, a gaffe on the campaign trail. i want to show ever

it was inconsequential. 25 milligrams and the effects gone. means nothing. >> wait a minute. why not let them be the judge of that? why not supply the best information you have? >> paramedics depend on me. >> you told them about the other drugs but you didn't tell them about the propofol. >> because it had no effect. it was not an issue. >> murray claims he gave so little of the drug it was long gone from jackson's system but jackson's autopsy showed he died of acute propofol intoxication with far more of the drug in his system that murray admits giving. >> do you feel guilty that he died? >> i don't feel guilty because i did not do anything wrong. i am very, very sorry for the loss of michael. michael is a personal friend. it's heartfelt. it's been painful. >> well, dr. conrad murray faces up to four years in prison and will be sentenced later this month. >>> when we come back, a day that only comes once in a lifetime. >>> where will you be at a little after 11:00 tonight? it will be your last chance for a hundred years to take note of a moment on the clock and on the calend

what you are trying to do is you are trying to make them seem like inconsequential. if you do not have a good education which is absolutely important in today's day, you will not even get a job as a janitor. i would like your group to study the pay of people other than bill lowly schoolteachers. in michigan, we are fairly compensated. i have a friend that teaches in florida and she makes $28,000 per year. this bogus statement that you make that they only work so many hours and i have the whole summer off -- our school year ends in the middle of june and they start back in august. host: let me cut in for a second and let andrew biggs response. first of what a find out a couple of things. you teach in bloomfield hills, mich. -- how long have you been a teacher and was subject to you teach? caller: i am a language teacher. i do not teach here. i travel among different school districts. my particular specialty is children of immigrants, mostly slavic. i go and help them during the week acclimate to the studies they have to do and things of that nature. it incenses me tha

. >> trying to move them to places inconsequential limits their ability to speak, and that's the whole reporter: tonight, police have been keeping an eye on the encampment. the occupy movement shows no sign of leaving. it's planning a thanksgiving feast tomorrow afternoon. everyone's invited, including the police. live in san francisco, ken wayne, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> more details, the steepest costs have been in oakland, and new york city repeated clashes with police and protesters. the city of oakland had spent more than $2 million as of last week. >>> he stepped on a roadside bomb. the remarkable story of a south bay marine now home for the holidays, and his big goal before christmas. >>> back here in ten minutes with your thanksgiving forecast. we'll check out live stormtracker 2, and then we'll >>> a bay area marine returned home today, with a war wound that has him on crutches and in a wheelchair. why he and his family say they have many reasons to give corporal daniel franky returned home from war to his hometown of san jose. wounded, but grateful and happy. >> it will be f

. >> trying to move them to places inconsequential limits their ability to speak, and that's the whole. >> reporter: tonight, police have been keeping an eye on the encampment. the occupy movement shows no sign of leaving. it's planning a thanksgiving feast tomorrow afternoon. everyone's invited, including the police. live in san francisco, ken wayne, ktvu, channel 2 news. >>> more details, the steepest costs have been in oakland, and repeated clashes with police and protesters. the city of oakland had spent more than $2 million as of last week. >>> he stepped on a roadside bomb. the remarkable story of a south bay marine now home for the holidays, and his big goal before christmas. >>> back here in ten minutes with your thanksgiving forecast. we'll check out live stormtracker 2, and then we'll look at tomorrow's forecast model. >>> a national movement to cancel black friday started right here in oakland. we'll show you how it works. >>> a bay area marine returned home today, with a war wound that has him on crutches and in a wheelchair. why he and his family say they have many reasons

as inconsequential at this time. >> his presidential run now depends on a strong showing in iowa.awlenty man now backing perry. >> mid september he is leading perry. >> when new jersey governor crist tee says he won't run. the 2012 field is set. october 19th council bluffs iowa. >> it's only his 5th trip to the state. the big question is whether he is changing course and trying to win the caucus. that may end the race almost before it starts. >> like to win every state. >> i would like to win every state but i am smart enough to realize i won't win them all. >> he is keeping expectations low. three-days later des moines. >> i have heard there could be close to a thousand people here tonight. i am not too surprised that romney did not show up. >> bamaumburg is off to the freedom coalition. after months she is undecided. she is going to back -- >> personally i am going to go out and say it i really like newt. i like his intelligence. i like what he has to say. >> 2012 is the most important election in in country since 1860. >> he had no political polls months ago. now he's pulling i

so he had to choose, he chose the team over his son in an inconsequential game against spain!e it. >> steve: maybe he do not want to pay for any part of the wedding. >> brian: but when you have a job, you have to show up. it's not england's fault. >> steve: they should have had the wedding on another day. >> brian: thank you. >> gretchen: okay. let me be on the other side of this equation. i think that for your child's wedding, you can make one exception to miss work. >> brian: she's got a very good argument. you won the debate. >> gretchen: i don't know. let us know what you think about that. coming up, honoring our heros right here on the home front. now a major american company is stepping up to better the lives of america's veterans. >> steve: plus, they were caught on open microphone complaining about israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. one of our next guests says it's what wasn't said that's making things much worse. right back. so i was the guy who was never going to have the heart attack. i thought i was invincible. i'm on an aspirin regimen now because i never

>> that seems inconsequential to us. we are not concerned with the anniversary date. it may have jarred other people's memories and they came forward with the investigation. that may have been the timing and why it relates to that. . >> [inaudible]. . >> isn't it standard procedure to tell them you are reopening an investigation. >>> you saying he was not contacted. >> isn't it standard providure to notify the family? >> we are just starting to reinvestigate the case. sooner or later we will contact his family. [inaudible] >> we are doing what we do. we will follow-up on the leads we have and reinterview some people and new people. talk to people and reevaluate the evidence. >> you say there was a possibility that it was not an accident. is that a possibility? >> like i said, her death was ruled accidental drowning and that's what it is until we find something that says it isn't. until that time it's an accidental drowning. [inaudible] >> is there a possibility that it wasn't an accident? >> we are not afraid to get new information we deem to be credible and we go out

as inconsequential in your life as possible. thank you very much. god bless you all and god will bless america. [applause] >> the second candidate that is scott. here he comes. he is in west des moines. >> thank you very much. a great event. this is my first one here. i have been to the other one twice. ronald reagan was a wonderful president. he has really helped the republican party and meet in where i am going in the future. i usually do not prepare a speech but speak from my heart. i can go on and on about what is going wrong in washington. there are several apartments we want to get rid of. energy. [applause] there are so many departments in washington and the federal government that we have to disband. my personal background, i have been doing this for 30 years. and applying cost savings. i have travelled throughout all of iowa to bring back revenue to the bottom line. most of the rural hospitals in the state of iowa earn one of 3% profit margin. i save $330 they do not have to lose in income. i know what it takes to run a business. i know wha

it'd ever since the previous tuesday's events september 18, 2001 seems relatively inconsequential.america was in the state of shock and mourning for the attacks that killed three to pizzo is also desperate to retain measures are some small measure of normalcy. less than five miles from her rescue crews still search for signs of life amongst wreckage of the world trade center and the new york stock exchange reopened for business that morning. later the cry of play ball would replace the morbid silence settled over major league baseball stadiums across the country and in washington d.c. that morning president bush would depend upon to meet the secretary defense and senior military leaders to review decision to activate 35,000 reservists. as the president arrived, the smoke lingered in the air, wafting from where american airlines fleet 77 slammed into the building's outer ring. after the meeting -- after gathering with some survivors of the 180 people killed at the pentagon in spontaneous rendition of god bless america broke out in the pentagon cafeteria, the president spoke to repor

very inconsequential. but it's often the small pieces built all together that create the larger mosaic, just as it's often the secondary characters, not the primary characters who tell you the most about the primary characters. and have the most honest recollections of what happened because they're not dressing it up in any way for their own benefit. so that when you're doing research on a subject, don't just look at the papers or the surviving diaries and letters of the people who are involved, who are well-known, but look at everybody else who you find because they often have much more else to say. and this was particularly true, for example, in working on harry truman. many of those people who were close to truman, as members of the white house staff, or members of his hometown friends and so forth was infinitely valuable. >> host: the young lady right over here. >> mr. mccullough, when you're tackling these presidents like adams and jefferson that previous historians have written so much about, how imp

rick perry opened his campaign with i want to make washington as inconsequential in your life as possible. but defining what exactly that means is proven tough. the more plans they issue, the more in the weeds they get so i think it's hard. >> the last question, i promise. >> the president losing his narrative and needing to gain a new narrative, is it simply that it's tough to be president and i've done some good things but if you go to the other guy it will be worse than mi. >> that-- he's got to decide whether he says give me a second chance veus what i have done -- >> i think might, at least semi. >> is he capable of that. >> unclear of whether he is capable of doing it the right way. he needs a narrative about, needs it all along which is to say what is his actual vision of how to bring the american economy back. i think the debate in the republican context for the most part, not certainly at the bloomberg, but for the most hart has been very disa point. they have not engaged day-to-day on the big issues. i think a romney versus obama contest could engage that way and that would be b

as inconsequential in their lives as i can make it. as a matter of fact they can go to rickperry.org today and pick out the federal agency they would most like to forget about. >> i give you all the credit in the world for trying to divert me. but i have to go back to last night. these are quotes from republican strategists. it was a political death knell. it was the human equivalent of the shuttle challenger. when you were on stage last night during this miscue, did you realize how big a mistake it was? >> any time you're standing in front of however many million people we were and you have a loss of train of thought, sure. it impacts you. but the fact is one error is not going to make or break a campaign. so we're going to keep talking about what's important to the people of this country and that's the substance of how to get americans back working again. >> one final question for you. your aides talked about you scaling back participation in future debates. after last night's performance do you feel the need to jump right in on cbs

>> that's a very sad reason, because it was inconsequential. 25 milligrams and the effects gone meanst let them be the judge of that. why not supply the best information you have? >> paramedics depend on me. >> you told them about the other drugs but you didn't tell them about the propofol. >> because it had no effect, it was not an issue. >> please be seated. >> just before paramedics arrived the security guard testified dr. murray asked him to put empty vials and bottles into a bag. if you add all of this up, you don't call 911 for 20 minutes, you don't tell the paramedics or the e.r. docs about the propofol but you mention other drugs. the body guard says you're in the room telling people to clean up the vials. it sounds like you knew you had done something wrong and you were trying to cover your tracks. >> well, if that's the way it appears to you, i think, unfortunately, you have the wrong perception. >> nbc news confirming legendary singer michael jackson has in fact died of cardiac arrest. >> reporter: experts have said that if you hadn't delayed, if you had actually called 911

get up every day with my major goal is to chair with americans how to make washington, d.c., as inconsequential in their lives as i can make it. matter of fact, they can go to my website today at rickperry.org and they can pick out the federal agency that they would most likely or like to forget about it. >> governor, i give you all the cred in the world to divert me here, but i have to go back to last night. these are some quotes i want to read you from some republican strategists. it was a political, the human equivalent of the shuttle "challenger." when you were on stage last night, did you realize how big of a mistake it was? >> whenever you're standing up in front of how many million people we were and you have a loss of a train of thought, sure, it impacts you. but the fact is, one error is not going to make or break a campaign. so, we're going to keep talking about what's important to the people of this country and that's the substance of how to get americans back working again. >> one final question for you, your aides have talked about you scaling back your participation in future deba

these women were either so inconsequential or it was such a brief encounter that his disassociation isr this man is in complete denial. it's one or the other, because he says they are lying, specifically i never harassed anybody in my life. i never -- >> he never said harassed. i never acted inappropriately. that's the buzzword. we have all acted inappropriately at some times. >> i acted inappropriately 20 minutes ago. >> when women come forward a lot of these instances do you guys look at the women and immediately go oh, they're looking for a payday. there's two sides always. >> no. >> people have done it several times in. >> i think women underreport these things. >> donny, i think any woman over the age of 50 has already, has been sexually harassed, probably more than once. >> absolutely. >> there you go. >> most of us choose not to say anything. we are the underreporters. >> exactly. let's move on, because of the important case facing penn state. now we've had the ninth young man come forward to talk about how back in these years in the past, between 1994 and 2009 an assistant coac

. >> that's inconsequential to us. we are not concerned with the anniversary date. jarred other people's minds, it was in the media and they started coming forth with the information. >> isn't it standard procedure to contact the victim's family to tell them an investigation would be opened. robert wagner issued a statement saying he had not been contacted by your office about this investigation. isn't it standard procedure to contact the victim's family. >> that's correct. we just opened the investigation. we are starting to reinvestigate the case. sooner or later we will be contacting his family. [inaudible question] >> well, you know, we do what we do, investigations. we are going to follow-up on the leads we have. we are going to reinterview some people. interview some new people. talk to people and reevaluate some of the evidence. [inaudible question] >> like i said, her death was ruled an accidental drowning. that's what it is until we find something that says it isn't, until that time it's still an accidental drowning. >> by definition by reopening this inves

main goals in running for the presidency of the united states is to try to make washington as inconsequentialness of that is what we're going to be doing over the course of the weeks ahead as we go across this country, go back into those early primary states and talk about our tax plan that creates a 20 percent flat tax that allows them for the ducks on their mortgages, on their homes, the charitable gifts that they make, those local taxes, take 20 percent of that, send it in on a postcard. reforming our entitlement programs. balancing the budget. as a matter of fact, i'm the only individual on that stage last night that has a budget that will balance by 2020. get americans back to work. and so that's the real seriousness of what is going on. the style over substance certainly happened last night. but the fact is, americans know that as the governor of the state of texas, i've overseen an economy that allowed for jobs to be created, more so than any other state in the nation. bill: so he was up early, and doing so many interviews, including what you just watched there. and now you see his str

what you are trying to do is you are trying to make them seem like inconsequential.you do not have a good education which is absolutely important in today's day, you will not even get a job as a janitor. i would like your group to study the pay of people other than bill lowly schoolteachers. in michigan, we are fairly compensated. i have a friend that teaches in florida and she makes $28,000 per year. this bogus statement that you make that they only work so many hours and i have the whole summer off -- our school year ends in the middle of june and they start back in august. host: let me cut in for a second and let andrew biggs response. you teach in bloomfield hills, mich. -- how long have you been a teacher and was subject to you teach? h caller: i am a language teacher. i travel among different school districts. my particular specialty is children of immigrants, mostly slavic. i go and help them during the week acclimate to the studies they have to do and things of that nature. it incenses me that someone would come on and say what he is saying about teacher's pe

very inconsequential. but it's often the small pieces built all together that create the larger mosaic, just as it's often the secondary characters, not the primary characters who tell you the most about the primary characters. and have the most honest recollections of what happened because they're not dressing it up in any way for their own benefit. so that when you're doing research on a subject, don't just look at the papers or the surviving diaries and letters of the people who are involved, who are well-known, but look at everybody else who you find because they often have much more else to say. and this was particularly true, for example, in working on harry truman. many of those people who were close to truman, as members of the white house staff, or members of his hometown friends and so forth was infinitely valuable. >> host: the young lady right over here. >> mr. mccullough, when you're tackling these presidents like adams and jefferson that previous historians have written so much about, how imp

and get up every day and share with people that my goal is to make washington, d.c., is inconsequentialr lives as we can and getting rid some of the agencies we were making remarks about last night is a good start. >> criticism fierce this morning. across the board, you are hearing folks say that this was one of the worst, if not the worst debate moments, 54 seconds, you know, in modern primary history. you if you want to dispute that, go right ahead. that's fine. my question is are you worried at all going forward about what it means for raising money? for your supporters? if you are worried about wavering support among your supporters. >> again, we are going to go back and talk about what's important to the people of this country. not one or two debate performances. americans are looking for someone who has the substance. who has the governing track record of creating jobs. and that's what our campaign was always about. that's what it will always continue to be about. and as a matter of fact, i imagine there are a lot of americans that were like me last night. agencies of the federal

so there is the author clearly there is a larger number in the army guard, but there is not inconsequential numbers the of the reserve components as well. obviously some of us think about the coast guard reserve which is another part of the reserve component. let me ask this question, and i think i am probably focused on it here because the other half of the thierer on the homeland security getting in this discussion with you, general mckinley, i take that we would start with the understanding that the of third reserve components don't have not federal responsibilities correct? >> yes, sir. >> this is an interesting issue as i assure you all know because from our home states we are getting tremendous support for putting what the national guard bureau commander in chief on the joint chiefs of staff and there is a lot of support here in congress but there is a lot of opposition in the military. one of the unique functions here and i want to ask you to talk more about it than you did in your opening statement is what i would call homeland defense missions that are a part of the brard responsib

i'm not saying it's not -- i'm not saying it's inconsequential, i'm saying it's not -- >> i think therether we want to have a forward-leaning foreign policy or not. and the second issue is whether we can afford it. and i think what david said earlier is absolutely the case. our economic issues impact our ability to conduct leading foreign policy. and that's just something we have to deal with. >> well, over the past decade, the united states of america has been an occupying power. we've occupied two countries at the same time. it has exhausted us, shattered -- you know this better than anybody. i remember back in the 1990s, we were complaining about people doing two or three deployments and how that was impacting readiness. republicans would have hearing after hearing about how bill clinton was spreading us thin and threatening our readiness.ç we now have five, six, seven deployments, the same men and women doing this, and we have the specter of iran. we may have to make a very tough decision on iran over the next 12 to 18 months and we're not going to be in a position to do that, figh

. >> clearly there is a larger number and the army card, but there is not inconsequential numbers in the reserve components as well. obviously some of us about the coast guard reserve, which is another part of the reserve component. let me ask this question. i think i am probably focused here because those the homeland security committee and want to begin this discussion with you, general mckinley. we start with the understanding that the other reserve could comments don't have nonfederal respond abilities >> yes, sir. >> this is an interesting issue as i'm sure you all know because from our home states, we are getting tremendous support for putting the national guard bureau commander chief on the joint chiefs of staff. and there is a lot of support in congress, but obviously there's a lot of opposition in the military. one of the unique functions here -- i want you to talk about it more than you did in your opening statement, is what i call homeland defense missions that are part of the cards responsibility. disaster response, border security, et cetera. some of the discussions i ha

there are not inconsequential numbers in the other reserve components. some of us think about the coast guard reserve that is another part of the reserve component. the other half i where is on the homeland security committee. -- the other hat i wear is on the homeland security committee. the other reserve components do not have non-federal responsibilities, correct? >> yes, sir. >> this is an interesting issue because from our home states, we're getting tremendous support for putting the national guard commander in chief on the joint chiefs of staff. there is a lot of support in congress. there is opposition from the military. one of the unique functions is these homeland defense missions better part of the guards responsibility -- that are part of the guards responsibility with disaster response, etc. some of the discussions i have had with folks at home and all the concern -- involved a concern that the homeland security missions are not receiving sufficient attention from the joint chiefs now and that if you were on the joint chiefs, they would recei