reminder my guests in the studio today are and really can we get i know that rex you are the institute for democracy incorporation and add to the row now the president and c.e.o. of the u.s. for russia business council gentlemen we've started talking about these as and this is a pretty new issue in russian relations to the. visa facilitation probably even moving to a visa free regime that presidents respective countries that talks about it in france recently no i want to change the subject and talk about something very symbolic something very historic and russian very cruel ations the jackson vatican really told journalists who interview people like yours that the general asked one of the jackson very congreve and the and the only one you know would ever be lifted into the answer the answer is never i think so but i'll still ask the question maybe i'll use something else add. a year very disappointed because it will be left of. christmas and when you. come one is never going. to mistake that we may see that. lifted within. a day but but soon and maybe that's by the end of this year the administratio

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syria we're going to cross live to paris where john laughlin is standing by for us from the institute for democracy and clucked aeration thanks for being with us once again here on r t the un is considering a resolution condemning syria's government it was the security council's men date that opened a path of course into libya for nato forces do you think we're heading for a repeat in syria. it's difficult to say i think that the western powers particularly britain and france are trying to keep that option open i think they're trying to enlarge their room for maneuver by getting this resolution voted a resolution which i doubt a cli i'm sure will give if it's passed will give them grounds for justifying an attack on the other hand one of the purposes of this may be to keep the syrians guessing notwithstanding mr rasmussen fairly clear statement earlier which we've just rebroadcast the western powers may be trying to make the syrians think that they're about to and that is a way of bringing pressure on to persevere in regime i spoke to the nato secretary general just a bit earlier and he said that t

opposed the move saying outside involvement will make matters worse from laughlin from the institute for democracy and cooperation says the u.s. is determined to turn up the heat on damascus. i think what we're seeing other western powers ratcheting up the pressure they're trying to increase their room for maneuver so in the draft resolution you have crimes against humanity you have a threat to international peace and security and in parallel you have this cranking up now of pressure from the international atomic energy authority so i think this is a way of increasing the number of cards that the west believes that it holds as far as russia is concerned i think that it's pretty obvious that russia or the russian government greatly regret not having vetoed the resolution on libya which as we can all see was immediately exploited. to go way beyond the terms laid down in the resolution i mean by that that the western powers immediately started to attack the libyan government launched a war whose goal is regime change whereas obviously regime change is not included in the terms of that resolution so i

to advance on tripoli but more on this we're joined now by john laughlin the director for the institute of democracy incorporation in paris thanks for joining us here on r.t. france is once again at the forefront of nato campaign in libya now a dropping weapons to the rebels some analysts say the move contravenes the un embargo on arms supplies to libya what's your take on that. well obviously it does and it also makes the nonsense of the whole argument in favor of the war in the first place that argument is you know was predicated on the idea on the accusation that the libyan government was attacking civilians well the admission that france is arming the rebels is very obviously an admission that what's going on in libya is a fight between the government and armed rebels and armed rebels are not civilians so any attack by the government on armed rebels in libya is therefore not necessarily a war crime in other words this news is not only incompatible with the case that's being made for war in libya completely contradicted incompatible but are other countries larky to follow in france's footsteps in

the reduction and violence has created breathing room for the iraqis to begin building their democracy, restoring public institutions, and creating conditions for growth. continued support is required to further nurture the iraq a fledgling democracy and prove its ability to manage its own. usaid as supporting -- has supported efforts since 2003. the primary objective then was to restore essential infrastructure. in 2007, we shifted much of our resources to a stabilization program to complement the military and civilian search which began at that time. this program focused on community stabilization and in the district of response funds. usaid support is aligned with the agreement which outlines the political, economic, and security cooperation between the united states and iraq. the agreement focuses on sustainable development programs in several sectors and is characterized by increasing levels of host country ownership of the costs of these programs. the key challenge ahead for the iraqi government will be in security, essential services, economic growth, and strengthening of institutions of democratic stubbornne

>> for those that like democracy, more open societies, increasing appreciation for democratic institutions and principles. is a racket guaranteed to be a shining example forever? though. is it better than it was in recent years? absolutely. this is on a continuing and got a moment in time. if you look around the middle east with the exception of israel and turkey in you're trying to rank haitians that are next on the progress meter in terms of movement towards the like, you will put iraq moving in the right direction. in light of other challenges are within iraq, we don't know the answer to that. in this moment of time, it can and has been made in a difficult region with the complex and seemingly insurmountable history. absolutely. >> i want to ask a question that john asked you about states that democratically choose leaders who are opposed to american values in the conundrum. i assume that one of the reasons the obama hesitation -- edit illustration hesitated, they thought it could be more anti- american and anti-israel. do you have a reason to think that that is wrong? or if it is corre

country for the people but as soon as we need actually to move from under the title should regime to be a democratic country c.d.n. to fifty's has a long tradition of a democracy can institutions in one thousand nine hundred fifty four for four hours free and fair elections are the time we have the march to progress of constitution with a give their ideal meant to avoid and to participate in their earlier there was a little more of this. that was in the thirty's but you know this work once wrote that the. only country any people deserves its government so if you moved from. mark receive you have a progressive constitution to or through syrian regime you have now don't you think that the this is what the people really need to know i learned this actually that this symbol i answer the uprising right now why there be one of the voting here lives at risk even that even that they know that they've been faced by laffey munition but every day every day you will see their courage people the kurds as you would they go to street who brought this don't especially i said it would be every day they are asking to art set off by shot i said and and i have been accountable in front of the int

but i do think in this time we should be leaning forward with our values for democracy and stng institutions wldbe leaning agnst the dictators at which he was lining a lite harder in syria. our ability to control things is limited but we should be leaning. i think he's adapted toward if i may say a more bush foreign policy of leaning and of regime change. >> charlie: bush 43 or 41. >> i meant 43. when the president said in london many years ago that we can't accept the stability, he was still essentially right. we can argue about iraq. i happen to think if sadaam was still in power, probablyome would disagree with that. nonetheless that cites instability over the long run is our iend, regime change is possible. i think he put obama in a more cautious way obviously is sort of consistent on the same path as president bush was. >> charlie: iraq. you wrote a piece about iraq. i'll just stay with that. the lesson with iraq that might apply with what's happening today. >> what we learn from iraq is what it takes, charlie, to take onef these highly fractured triballized ethnically divided countries

for talking with us. that has been our in-depth report on the pro-democracy movement in sia and the push for reform. as always, thank you for watching. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org--

soros is also the founder of the open society institute and the author of underwriting democracy: encouraging for enterprise and democratic reform in eastern europe. of the differences in viewpoints of this between mr. soros and professor hayek are extensive and profound, i am sure he is among those who appreciate hayek's tremendous contribution to establishing liberal economic order. >> thank you. kayak is generally regarded as the possible a grant economics, which hold that the markets ensure the optimal resources as long as the government doesn't interfere. it's a highly formalized and not magical theory, whose two main pillars of the efficient market hypothesis and the national expectations. it is usually called the chicago school and is come to dominate the teaching of economics in the united states. i prefer to it as market fundamentalism. i have developed an alternative perception framework, which is opposed to the efficient market hypothesis and national expectations is still on the twin pillars of compatibility. my firm belief whose principles are in accordance with hayek's ideas. they c

reforms and this is a question about what is democracy and what is democracy for i think the moxley people not for financial institution it's as simple as that. and now some other world headlines and in spain a protest against budget cuts are also taking place tens of thousands have marched in the streets of madrid and other major of spanish cities in rallies against a sturdy pressures social spending cuts and massive unemployment the economic crisis in the country has left more than a million families with no income and lead to youth unemployment nearing fifty percent on monday groups all over spain will start a month long march to the capital expressing their anger over the situation. washington has confirmed it's holding talks with a tall about defense secretary robert gates described the contact as quote very preliminary and said continued military pressure is necessary earlier the afghan president hamid karzai also confirmed they go c.h.s. with the taliban when it comes as the u.s. prepares to begin withdrawing troops from afghanistan next month. now a mother's decision to use the internet and set of a doctor to h

the thing is this is a question about what is democracy and what is democracy for i think the moxley people not for financial institution it's as simple as that now a russian mother is facing criminal charges over the death of her daughter who it is alleged was not given proper care after catching pneumonia the case sparked widespread outrage when it was revealed that the mother failed to call the doctors and instead a sort of vise on the internet. has been finding out why some parents prefer to avoid the services of medical institutions. i see i was an eagerly awaited baby adored by her mother and everyone around she was a lively newborn for three months when she became ill and died within a week doctors say had i been hospitalized earlier she could have had a chance of survival however us his mother julia hesitated too long and she's now facing criminal charges for negligence. you have to understand we did want to avoid unnecessary medical intrusion but we're not in a cult we cared about her children's health and wanted only the best for them this is julia's heartrending response in a t.v. show called let them talk on

thing is this is a question about what is democracy and what is democracy fall i think the mocks the people not for financial institution it's as simple as that. now here's a brief look at more of today's main stories one of indonesia's most prominent insurgents has gone on trial charged with plotting assaults on foreigners and plotting the assassination of the country's moderate muslim leaders told it was arrested in december with one hundred twenty other suspects or they were allegedly organizing attacks similar to those carried out in mumbai in two thousand and eight when more than one hundred fifty people were killed. more than five million people have been affected by devastating floods in southern and eastern china with more than one hundred seventy people are dead or missing they've been caused by tarantulas rains which followed one of the most severe droughts in more than fifty years the authorities warn the floods are going to continue and more than ten reverse in affected areas may burst their banks. or russian mother is facing criminal charges over the death of her daughter who it is alleged was not given pro

the reduction in violence has created the breathing room for iraqis to work on their democracy, restoring institutions and credit institutions for private sector led growth, but continued support is required to further nurture their fledgling democracy. there has been support since 2003. the primary objective then was to restore the central infrastructure for services. beginning in 2007, much of the resources were shifted to a stabilization program to complement the military and civilian search that began at that time. -- surge that began at that time. therefore reconstruction teams. it is currently aligned with the strategic framework agreement, which outlines the political, economic, and security operation in the united states and iraq. the agreement focuses on sustainable development in several seconds -- sectors and is characterized by host country ownership with the cost of these programs. mr. chairman, the key challenge ahead for the iraqi government will be security, central services, economic growth, and the strengthening of institutions of democratic governance. now is the time for iraq to tr

thing is this is a question about what is democracy and what is democracy for i think the mox for the people not for financial institution it's as simple as that. now some other world headlines and in spain protests against budget cuts are also taking place tens of thousands of march through the streets of madrid and other major spinal cities rally against austerity measures social spending cuts and massive unemployment. crisis in the country is there more than a million families without income and lead to youth unemployment nearing fifty percent on monday groups all over spain will start a month long march to travel to expressing their anger at the situation. a bomb threat has sparked a full scale one and turn of flight landing in washington d.c. urgency operation began after some. airport claimed there was a bomb on board a u.s. airways plane heading to the u.s. capitol. hill searched by experts who also interviewing the plane's forty four passengers so far no explosive device has been found a person who made the claim is custody. three civilians were killed and eleven wounded after a suicide bomber struck a german mil

for democracy. and my objection of autocratic and dictatorial institutions. time, a number of people, very few, who have, over a period of decades, established the confidence of chinese leadership, and we think that we are in a better position to bring about the achievement of these objectives by using influence in such a way that it's no demonstrated winner or loser. i engage myself in china as i do periodically on individual cases. i do not do it in a public confrontation, but in a personal dialogue. but that is really the nature of the disagreement, it is not the disagreement as to the importance of the objective. >> final question. there are a number of people who say that obama's policy, his world view, is somewhat realist. someone who says that is george bush, sr. he spoke about the nixon/kissinger diplomacy. >> my feeling about obama is he would like to believe that you can sweep the world by the power of ideas, and that the ideas alone will dominate the world and that you can ignore the e equilibrium part of the equation and you can do it with rhetori

defeating is this is a question about what is democracy and what is democracy for i think the mox full of people not for financial institution it's as simple as that even the most optimistic observers know the euro as an intensive care you can argue about that i mean in order to save it do you think some nations do need to be cut free now or they'll going to go down with a sinking ship well i do get a share with you the idea that the euro is in the trouble but i think in the words like intensive care are not helping and first of all it's not true it's in trouble well many like the dollar has been in trouble before like these are crises and they can be solved if there is a political will to solve them there was the question is how do you sell them for what purpose if it's for public good or is it for the do goods the interest of a specific interest that's the question a lot of an osa international consultant former deputy speaker of the belgian parliament thanks for the program thank you very much later this hour as well we've got an interview with a german paid close peter velshi shares his views about bailing out greece and

for democracy. and my rejection of autocratic and dictatorial institutions.ime, there are a number of people, very few, who have, over a period of decades, established the confidence of chinese leadership. and we think that we are in a better position to bring about the achievement of these objectives by using our influence in such a way that there is no demonstrated victor or loser. i have said that when i engage myself in china as i do periodically on individual cases, i do not do it in a public confrontation but in a personal dialogue. but that is really the nature of the disagreement. it is not a disagreement that's to the importance or the objective. >> final question. there are a number of people who say that obama's policy, his world view, is somewhat realist, admirers are george bush sr. he's spoken about the nixon/kissinger diplomacy. so do you think obama is kissingerian, and do you view that as a compliment? >> my view of obama is that he would like to believe that you can sweep the world by the power of ideas. and that the ideas alone will dominat

for nearly fifty years from democracy to. attack recy when when syria has a democracy and institutions that balance bartie came all the antics there were in one hundred sixty three and sense nine hundred sixty three there is no free and fair elections we have one monarch bully. bharti according to the constitution article eight the bath party is the leader and in this state and this is and this is actually destroy all the traditions that the syrian have in their fifty's regarding their short of democratic period and this is why we need to board our democracy again and and this is the main point for the syrians we need a democratic system transparency we need accountability and we need the right for their people to choose their president and to to their government and this is why none none of this union will accept less than that we did a higher price we did fifteen hundred and maybe their numbers are much higher and this is why our will not accept less than having a democratic system well let's take a look at the situation in syria now in a report by spotlights you learn the new liver. when this to move revolution swept thro

for nearly fifty years from a democracy to. attack recy when when syria has a democracy and institutions the part of party came all that and keep their color in one hundred sixty three and since ninety sixty three there is no free and fair elections we have one monopoly what ruling party according to the constitution in article eight the bad part is that the leader and in this state and this is psyche and this is actually destroying all the little additions that this union have in the fifty's and guarding the shore of democratic period and this is why we need to called our democracy again and and this is the main point for the syrians we need a democratic system transparency we need accountability and we need the right for the people to true their president and due to their government and this is why now none of this union will accept less than that we did a higher price we've made fifteen hundred and maybe their number much higher and this is why our will not accept less than having a democratic system will let's take a look at the situation in syria now in reported by spotlights you learn the similar. when the storm of revolu

reforms and defeating is this is a question about what is democracy and what is the moxie for i think the mocks for the people not for financial institution it's as simple as that. now some other headlines were in spain protests against europe along to bankers and the people continue tens of thousands have marched through the streets of madrid and other major sprouter cities in a rally against us there are two measures social spending cuts and massive unemployment the economic crisis in the country is that more than a million farmers without in can lead to youth unemployment nearing fifty percent on monday groups all over spain will start a month long march the top of the next person entering the situation. a bomb threats have sparked a full scale on an internal flight down to washington d.c. emergency operation began enough to summon a high ethical plane there was a bomb on board a u.s. airways plane and u.s. chemical aircrafts were searched by f.b.i. experts are also different things. so far the explosive device found when a plane is known to us today. three civilians were killed and eleven wounded all the suicide bomber struck a german

for democracy? " would it take to bring it to the point to come to the road of would democratic institution? >> i can speak about libya generally are specifically. are arab-americans ready for democracy? do you know and arab community organization that is run democratically? and that is one question, because this is a good question. [applause] the syrian seigneur. i speak for myself and for many others. the disinvitation was a travesty. i've spoken to many people about this. there might be some issues of miscommunication, perhaps, but our organization has lost this public information battle and we're here -- we appear on democratic -- undemocratic. are we ready for democracy? it seems that we do not handle it very well here in our organization. how do we handle what has happened? and if i can continue the song that was supposedly banned? >> the musician in question who will not be appearing tomorrow night is malek jandavi, a serious musician whose popular song as cause some controversy. >> and it is more popular than it ever was. i was not a big fan of it. but you need to hear it. here is the

>> for those who like democracy, more open societies, increasing appreciation for democratic institutions, and principles. it is iraq guaranteed to be a shining example forever or much longer. no. it is a continuum and a moment in time. is it guaranteed to stay that way in light of sectarian concerns, in light of other challenges within iraq? we do not know the answer, but in this moment of time, is it an example of progress that can and has been made in a difficult region with a complex and long seemingly insurmountable history, absolutely. please, go to the back sir. >> i want to ask a question that john ask you about states that democratically choose leaders who are opposed to american values, that and under. i assume one of the reasons the administration hesitated in egypt is they thought whoever placed the president would be anti-israel. that is all logic of democracy in a region where anti- americanism runs high. the you have reason to think that is wrong, or if it is correct, are you saying that the united states should be prepared to pay that strategic price for the important mora