and in case of something, it is worth getting vaccinated, but now we will not talk about infections. but also oleksandr gladun, doctor of economic sciences, deputy director, about society institute of demography and social researchamed after ptukha, academy of sciences of ukraine. glory to ukraine. mr. oleksandr, we congratulate you. congratulations to the heroes. rates of depopulation in ukraine. yes, we understand that the fault lies with our enemy, and the forcibly displaced persons did not leave our country voluntarily. well... the key story is an assessment of what the ukrainian population is, how many of us there are and how many of us there may be in the next couple of years, yes, because we understand that this is a story not even just about working hands, it is generally about a certain, possibly new construction of the country, you have a word, well, indeed , the war led to significant shifts in demographics. processes and especially affected migration, as for migration, two categories of citizens can be distinguished here, the first is forced refugees who ended up abroad, these are our migrants, and the second is internally displaced persons, the evaluation is carried out abroad by the office of the u