rory it was the interfax news agency that first reported this plane crash. what more do we know at this stage? >> well, interfax wouldn't tell us the name of the source that had given them off of the information. so a lot of things are still very murky about this crash, but we do know this is going to be a huge game changer for this conflict, the conflict going on at the moment between the ukrainian army and pro-russian separatists. already the finger of blame is starting to be pointed backwards and forwards. the ukrainian government is hinting that it is the rebels. the rebels themselves say not them. we have here from the self proclaimed donetsk people's republic, they say the plane was shot down by the ukrainian side. we simply do not have such air defense systems according to the rebels. our man pads -- this is a type of missile system -- have a firing range of 3,000 to 4,000 meters. that was from the special representative and security council member. so what they are saying is that it was most likely that the ukrainian army shot the plane down. the ukra

has been confirmed by anyone else now doesn't look like at the interfax news agency has been citing a ukrainian news agency corps saying that yes graham phillips has been apprehended by the security services and has been in fact deported from the country with a three year ban on entering ukraine in. in the future however there are some friends of his that i believe we can and will be talking to later who say that there's been no confirmation from the u.k. they don't know anything about the fate of their national and by the looks of it it doesn't really look like the security services are confirming this at this point as well in fact they've been staunchly denying that they even have graham phillips or any other journalists in their custody. i know he's been taken hostage there's no information as we're both there's a bounty on his the ukrainian military don't. you know that was the official line yes to. the facts is to believe there's a. confusion of facts that are put it bluntly. to the circumstances of why he disappeared what he does anyway well in fact he just came back to

a boeing 777 and it has gone down, we are led to believe by these reports coming from the interfax news agency out of russia as well as the a.p. and reuters, gone down near the ukrainian and russian border, an area that has been the scene of a great deal of military conflict. there are reports from interfax that the plane was shot down 20 miles short of russian airspace. nbc news has not been able to confirm that, but there are reports on interfax as well as social media that the plane may have been shot down just short of russian airspace. 280 passengers on board and 15 crew members. this coming about four and a half months since malaysia flight 370 disappeared on a flight to china, to beijing from kuala lumpur and of course the search still continues for that plane now believed to have gone missing or gone down somewhere in the south atlantic -- pardon me, the south indian ocean, off the coast of australia. they still haven't found any sign of that plane. but this is an unrelated incident. again, a report that this plane missing and has gone down near the yukrainiaukrainian-russian possibly

interfax news agency cites a ukrainian official internet posting claiming 23 americans were on board. so far, no confirmation of that report. agency isan news reporting tonight that rebels went to call for a three-day cease-fire to allow for recovery efforts. ukraine says russia is behind the shootdown and is demanding an international investigation will stop -- international investigation. >> today's incident is the latest in a string of lane crashes in ukraine brame -- blamed on pro-russian separatists. a ukrainian fighter jet was shot down in a confrontation and a ukrainian transport plane was shot down this past monday. in either case. that was not the case in the june 14 crash that killed all 49 people on board a ukrainian military transport plane. pro-russianms separatists shot down the plane using antiaircraft weapons. the separatists are blamed for a may 29 helicopter crash in which 14 ukrainian military members, including a general, were killed. >> does incidents took place closer to the ground. some insight into what we can learn from this specific incident is lieutenant .ol

>> we are hearing through the interfax news agency, a separatist news agency saying they have found the black boxes. they were saying they were going to turn those over to the russians once they did find them which raises all sorts of questions about conflict of interest given that the ukrainians and u.s. embassy have accused the russians of being behind the shoot down. >> confirmation from the rebels according to interfax. it was claimed that this plane was shot down. what kind of concern would there be inside the united states government right now that terrorists might take this moment of crisis as an opportunity? >> well, if this crash had occurred anywhere other than on the russian ukrainian border, we would all be sitting here trying to figure out what terrorist group did this. we have never seen terrorist groups take advantage of crises elsewhere. but as the commissioner was saying, we do know that there are terrorist bomb makers out there who have been making bombs. obviously the tsa has changed its inspection regime for flights coming into the united states in recent weeks becau

russia's interfax news agency saying a malaysian passenger plane has crashed on the border.ere are reports of 2990 people onboard. and the plane was said to be from amsterdam. we'll have more as more information is available. for now, thank you for watching aljazeera america. aim del walters in new york, and "inside story" is next. . >> they are the emerging world powers and they're combining their economic hats. the bricks alliance hopes to challenge the western dominated world bank and international monetary fund. it's the inside story. >> hello, i'm a he libby casey. brazil, russia, india and china

interfax, russian news agency, is reporting that pro russian separatists in eastern ukraine say they ve found the black box flight data recorder of this malaysian airliner. this is interfax, a russian news agency. we don't know this. we can't verify this, but they are reporting that the russian separatists in east ukraine claim they have found the black box. what we are showing you here are photos fed in by reuters where a reuters reporter continue if i weres they have seen hundreds of bodies scattered around the smoldering wreckage of the passenger jet in a field where-in eastern ukraine, emergency services rescue workers said at least 100 bodies have been found near the scene and that the debris from the wreckage was spread across an area of up to 15 kilometers, nine miles in diameter. broken pieces of wings marked with blue and red paint, the same colors as the emblem of the malaysian airlines which lost track of the boeing 777 en route to amsterdam from kuala lumpur that was carrying nearly 300 people. the ukrainian interior ministry official saying all 295 people on board are dea

giving us a lot of information about what i curd and also some news just in right now russia's interfax news agency is quoting a source in the russian aviation industry excuse me this isn't quite breaking news we have heard it before that president putin's plane may have been the target of the attack it is claimed the president's jet crossed over warsaw at the exact same height as the doomed boeing just forty minutes after that quite incredible but the planes were said to share of course a similar form on the colors red white and blue malaysia's flying russian's flag as well. ok plenty more information to bring you on this story before we go forward though that's just. because it's not the first time that a civil plane has been downed over ukraine thirteen years ago a similar incident happened over the black sea we've got the d'souza vote no from medina coach the country joins us once again it's it's very sad to be nice to have to go to hear about the tragedies but there are some obvious similarities which people will understand and in a moment you just take has been through two thousand. and one i

the -- it was the interfax news agency out of kiev, and it's important the initial -- to know that the initial information was coming exclusively from the ukrainian side. it said that the plane was shot down but it was given no further detail except the plane was flying at 10,000 feets. not low. 33,000 feet, which would require a very sophisticated misil sile take it out when it was hit. the russian air space was -- i should say it was flying through ukrainian air space. it was supposed to hit russian air space at a specific time. that alerted malaysian air to the fact that there was something wrong when it didn't hit at that specific time. i believe it was 17:25 and instead crashed inside of ukraine. now we know, of course, this is a very volatile part of ukraine. there's been cross-border violence between ukrainian armed forces and those pro-russian rebels going back to april. it calmed down a little bit. there was a mini cease-fire, a half a cease-fire. it kind of fell off the radar screen in terms of news because of developments in the middle east. but it has been on the rise again

the russian interfax news agency is reporting. malaysian an air lines said it lost contact with the plane. it was last seen 80 kilometers west of the eastern ukrainian city of donetsk. christine is at the united states for us. she has been speaking to ukrainian officials about the crash. what more are they telling you. >> the security council has been meeting on libya. and we're trying to get reaction from other ambassadors. we know the russian ambassador left early and alerted media that we were waiting outside to question him about this crash. this plane went down in an area where fighting is happening, they say. the plane was shot down wednesday another was shot down. and they have blamed russia for being blamed for these attacks. whether it is coming from the russian side of the border, or the ukrainian side of the border they can't say for sure, but this is their belief. now russia has denied any involvement in the shooting down of ukrainian military planes. the russian ambassador himself told me we didn't do it. but they hav

let me just give you a little bit more information that's coming in to us because russia's interfax news agency is quoting a source in the russian industry claiming president putin's plane the president of russia may have been the target of the attack claimed the president jacques crossed paths over warsaw the exact same height as the doomed boeing just forty minutes after that the plane's they're said to share a similar form and as we mentioned the colors are red white and blue as well and what are your thoughts on that again this is coming from a source in the russian aviation industry to interfax. because clearly good intelligence will be good. speculation to be honest. good intelligence. good news all of the original. you need. your intelligence to be accurate. to say one plane or another. not the. red white or blue yeah that's a really interesting perspective to go absolutely because you know we get this information coming out the president's plane was in the vicinity people are going to jump to their own conclusions as interesting to get your take on that you know essentially this is an e

already announced a humanitarian truce will be implemented to allow investigators in russia's interfax news agency quoting a source in the russian aviation industry suggesting that president putin splay now could have actually been the target it's claimed the russian leaders jet went over warsaw at exactly the same height as the doomed boeing just forty minutes later a spokesperson for russia's federal transport agency refused to comment saying it never discusses details of the routes taken by the president and other top officials and data from the flight tracking it service flight radar twenty four suggests that the plane it deviated from its route the route passenger planes normally take over ukraine is this one that we can see on the map right now from. to bed younes but the malaysian plane actually went over a larger part of the troubled country and the reason for the change is still unknown at this time. sergey from the interstate aviation committee says that an international commission must now be allowed to investigate. flaws in lists understanding the difficulty of the situation in the are

larger part of the troubled country and the reason for the change though still not russia's interfax news agency quoting a source in the russian aviation industry suggests that president putin's plane could have actually been the target of the attack it is claimed that the russian leaders jet went over warsaw at the exact same height as the doomed boeing just forty minutes later a spokesperson for russia's federal air transport agency refused to comment saying it never discusses details of the routes taken by the president and other top officials. from the interstate aviation committee says an international commission must now be allowed to investigate. understanding the difficulty of the situation in the area of the incident we consider it necessary to create an international investigation commission which could be established under the authority of the international civil aviation organization and to pass on to it all the flight recorders one after another major carriers are diverting their planes around ukrainian airspace among them the likes of air france. or europe's transport agency euro c

look at the dow industrials after 11:00 eastern time, interfax news agency, started to is see the dow move down. cash ca art ashin and i were on the floor. people were coming up saying is this possibly correct? a malaysian jet down in the ukraine? people trying to to confirm that headline. we spent a lot of time just getting the facts right. take a look at heavy volume and some etfs right now. already under some pressure due to the sanctions announced earlier. very heavy volume in this. that's not surprising. one area you want to look at is high yield bonds because high yield bonds do not act like bonds when you have high volatility. they act like stocks. people head for the exits. we've seen some pressure recently in some of the high-yield bonds. here's one of the big ones today. very heavy volume as well. you could see it down fractionally. the vix moving up, at a one-month high, but also coming off it highs. the important point is people kept asking e me, only 60 points on the dow, aren't you surprised it's not down more. assumption on the floor has been all morning that this was s

now, interfax news agency has said the plane is down. may have been shot down. i want to emphasize that right now u.s. authorities are just monitoring this information and have no independent confirmation either of a crash or the reason for that crash. but we believe as the facts are starting to come in here that it is looking pretty bad, margaret. >> yes, malaysian airlines saying they have lost contact as you say there. do we know what altitude this plane would have been at when it was flying over this ukrainian air space? >> this would have been midway in the flight, or part way along the flight route from amsterdam to kuala lumpur. the airplane the 777, here is a picture of a 777, would have been at about 33,000 feet. that's the safest phase of flight. that's called cruise altitude. at that point the pilots are going along, monitoring systems. it is not nearly as risky usually as a takeoff or landing. suddenly when we look at radar tracking data we see at about 33,000 feet that's the last reported position that some of these tracking

now that interfax news agency went on to say that the plane was shot down.n source. without give anything more detail, except to say the plane was flying at 10,000 meters, about 33,000 feet, when it was allegedly hit. that it did not enter russian air space when expected, which was around 1725 local time, i believe. instead, it crashed inside ukraine. we know as mike mcfaul just said that this is a very volatile part of ukraine cross border violence has been going on between ukrainian armed forces and pro-russian rebels starting back in april. but which has been on the rise over the past week or ten days we've seen three incidents of ukrainian military planes just in the past week allegedly being brought down by russian missiles. so this is, of course, something the russian authorities have denied but there could be a connection between that and what we're seeing today. >> yes, there could be. thank you, jim. let me bring back ambassador mcfaul. you've heard and meksed this as well this accusation this ukrainian fighter jet was shot down ambassador by russia

interfax of russia, a government-known news agency says it was shot down as well as the interior mince on his facebook page, claims shot down from missile fire, reported by the associated press. once again, also not a trusted source. we have gotten statements from ukrainian government officials in the past related to what's been happening on the border, and some of them have not been truthful. ditto for russia as well. yes, there are reports it was shot down. not confirmed, and not from sources that we trust at this point. back to you. >> yeah. i'm trying to think of the capability it would take to bring down a passenger jet. >> huge. >> we know nothing about the altitude. not an easy thing to do from the ground. >> back to that facebook page of questionable origin from the interior minister, ukraine. saying shout down 10shgs,000 meter, 33,000 feet on this facebook page. phil pointed out, very large page. 777-200 extended rake. >> and tweeted, we are aware of media reports and gathering more information. so with that, as i said earlier, boeing stock is lower, michelle, not out of tone

there is that story, though, making the rounds that's on the interfax news agency wire that points out that vaeld meladimirs plane, he came back from brazil today, the bric conference, according to interfax, there are similarities in style and look between putin's plane and the malaysian air jet. >> and flight paths, too. >> we can draw conclusions on that, too. >> well, that would mean nothing if the missile was fired from the ground. this plane was at 33,000 feet. you wouldn't have been able to see anything about the characteristics of it. >> you wouldn't think so, correct. >> no, you know you wouldn't have been able to say, oh, that looks a lot like the russian president's plane. so that could cut both ways. that could mean that the russians were on -- had more security to watch out for putin's plane. it could mean the ukrainian separatists were targeting it. i find that to be a wash. it does, yeah, i suppose, raise the possibility that the plane was shot down by a missile fired from the air, from a plane that looked at it. but if the plane looked at it, then presumably it could see

interfax, russian news agency, also saying it was shot down. again, another questionable source at this point. he's saying it was shot down at roughly 33,000 feet, or 10,000 meters. by beuke missile. seen a missile like that in that region, or that kind of a facility in that region in the last 24 hours as well. and once again, this is video that's been posted on youtube, purports to show the results of the crash. again, not verified by nbc news at this point. once again, we have seen, saw it immediately, immediate and sharp reaction in the markets, carl. at this point, a little comeback, though. that ten-year yield remains below 2.5%. >> and dow is down some 90 points, michelle. things getting a little more dramatic from an equities standpoint. s&p down 15 to 1966. gold is up almost $25 $13.24. the 6:00, largest gain in three months. >> sharp move. >> up 12%. last time vix up more than 12%, april 10th, up on 15%, and we remember the volatility they visited us in the springtime. so we're keeping a close eye how the market responds to every incre

our information about the plane going down comes from the ukrainian interior ministry and interfax news agency brought down by a missile, and the ukrainians blaming separatists at this point. >> tom, we have been showing the video of what seems to be a plume of smoke coming up from the ground. to reiterate, although that's making the rounds, and people are saying it is directly associated with this crash, we have not independently confirmed what you see is a plume of smoke from flight 17. >> we have been hearing from ukrainian authorities. there's word we may hear from the president, poroshenko, soon. this is a place where there's a ton of conflict going on now. we have information and accusations, that's something we have to sort through in the coming moments. >> the imagery is starting to pile up. we have a second video, again, we have not independently confirmed it is authentic. here is another piece of video from a similar area, showing that plume of smoke beginning to rise from the ground. again, this is said to be the result of the crash of this flight, 17, malaysian a flight 17, a 777 t

that is according to the news agency interfax, citing an aviation industry source. the bowing plane was flying from amsterdam to equally lump pure. this brings -- kuala lumpur. this brings up memories of a missing plane back in march. we focus on flight 17 which has crashed. there are a lot of things being said what could have brought the plane down.

that is according to the news agency interfax, citing an aviation industry source. it says the bowing plane was flying from amsterdam to equally lump pure. this brings -- kuala lumpur. this brings up memories of a missing plane back in march. we focus on flight 17 which has crashed. there are a lot of things being said what could have brought the plane down. we're gettin gather informationt they are saying. they believe this plane was brought down, shot down by some sort of a missile. two things know about where this plane was. obviously near the russian border. that is a hot zone during the war that is going on right now where the conflict between those two countries. it is difficult to know if that played a role at this point, but of course that is what people are looking for. 34,000 feet. if you want to think about it this way, a surface-to-air missle probably cannot take out a plan that far away. so what might have been, that is what they are looking at. we're going to go around the horn, let's start with geraldo rivera. >> the fact it is a malaysian airliner, t

news. 295 people were on board the flight that crashed. it was coming from amsterdam. going to the capital of malaysia. interfax, let me explain what interfax is, a non-governmental news agencyshut down with a ground to air missile. we have a ukrainian official in ukraine that says it was a book missile. interfax says it was fired by separatist. that was simply the expression that was used. consider the source for all of this. nonetheless, it has come down in a very sensitive area. all kinds of implications. when this news came out, and this was roughly 25, 26 minutes ago, it turned around to the tune of about 30, 50 points. i want to try to go through some of the other markets for you. i must say, a 16-point drop for the dow or an 11-point drop for the s&p 500 is not and extreme reaction to what may be a political incident in a very dangerous part of the world. i am trying to get you the price of oil. it was up for this happened. i want to bring you the price of gold. look at what we've got. $822 per ounce rally is there. k.t. mcfarland joins us now on the phone. you have heard what we've heard. you know what we know. your inputs so far. >> ukraine certainly feels the same.

the reuters news agency is reporting that a malaysian passenger jet with 295 people on board has crashed in ukraine near the border of russia. reuters says the report came from interfaxhat's a russian news agency and they cited an aviation industry source. we're trying to verify all of this. this is just coming in. we'll bring you any updates as soon as we get them in. >>> back here at home, a woman who was critically hurt last week in that deadly crash on highway 17 is now suing both the driver and the truck company involved. that horrible crash happened one week ago this morning. a lawsuit filed by attorney mark geragos claims immediately after the crash, the truck driver admitted the load he was hauling was too heavy and he was driving too fast. the truck was carrying trailers filled with dirt when it is thought to have suffered a brake failure. it plowed into ten cars killing one man and sending six people to the hospital. the chp is still investigating the exact cause of that crash. >>> it is 8:26. 2 investigates looks into a growing concern within the san francisco fire department. [ sirens ] >> many firefighters are worried the wait times for ambulances is too

the latest i heard, this is going around on the russian news agencies, interfax, et cetera is that the initial claims that the rebels had discovered the black boxes are now discounted. they obviously don't quite now what they're looking for and announcing they don't have them. >> vladimir putin pushing back against kiev which blames russia for shooting the plane down, is that pushing the entire situation closer to all out war. >> this is certainly a watershe had moment and could go in many different directions. russian foreign minister earlier not talking about the crash, but shells coming over from the ukrainian side into russian territory and say if russia could ascertain that was done deliberately, russia would strike back against the launch sites in ukraine. that's the sort of thing that could in flame this further. maybe it's a moment of insanity that makes people realize how things ever gotten here and that this could get very, very nasty, indeed. >> thank you very much. >> m.h.17 departed am at her dam's main airport with 173 dutch citizens onboard. families of those passengers

news story. reports that a malaysia airlines plane has crashed on the border between russia and ukraine with 295 people on board. the plane originated in amsterdam. this is being reported by the interfax us in agency. russian officials at the interior ministry saying that the plane was downed by a ground to aramis -- missile. and the same official says that he believes that all of the passengers and crew members on board have been killed. we have no way of confirming this as of yet on al jazeera, but just bringing you what we're hearing from the ukrainian firms. we have on the line with us now a military expert talking to us about the area where this crash is reported to have happened, and pavel as we have been saying this is an area where there has been fighting in recent days . . . >> you're watching the aljazeera news hour. several rockets have been fired from gaza into israeli communities as a five hour humanitarian truce expired. both sides denied reports they were close reaching a ceasefire. >> if you know release have been held for four palestinian children killed wednesday during an air strike near their homes. 235 palestinians and one israel have been killed in a week of fighting. >> ukra