we urge the international community to provide critical aid to all internally displaced people. at the end, i would like to thank the united nations and many other international organizations who are on the ground providing life-saving support and monitoring human rights on the ground. thank you, mr. president. president tirumurti: i thank the representative of afghanistan for his statement. i will now give the floor to the council members who wish to make a statement. i give the floor to the representative of estonia. you have the floor, please. amb. jurgenson: thank you, mr. president. i welcome the presence and the strong messages of the secretary-general and the representative of afghanistan. last week, we highlighted our grave concern that the number of civilians killed and injured in afghanistan had reached the highest on record with taliban responsible for the largest share of casualties. today, having declared control over afghanistan, the taliban bear even greater responsibility and accountability for the safety and security of all people in afghanistan. estonia calls f

they are looking to the international community for support, the same international community that assured them that opportunities would be extended, education would be given two, things will be spread, and rights will be secured. second, the international community must unite to make sure afghanistan is never again used as a platform or safe haven for terrorist organizations. i appeal to the security council and the international committee as a whole to stand together, to work together, and act together, and use all tools at its disposal to suppress the global terrorist threat in afghanistan and to guarantee that human rights will be respected. regardless of the power, these two fundamental principles in which our world has a deep and dividing interest must be upheld. mr. president, united nations is committed to supporting afghans. we continue to be in areas that have been under taliban control. i am relieved to report that in large measures, our personnel and privacies have been respected. we urge the taliban to continue to do so and to honor the integrity and viability of the diplomati

they expect clear support from the international community. we stand for them. we share the same objective. allowing the afghan people to recover stability and security. we have adopted this importance text. it sets a series of expectations for the taliban that concerns all afghans who feel threatened and wish to leave. we are asking them to adhere to those commitments. this resolution calls on everyone to make room for security and create safety and protection. to ensure that threaten afghans who want to leave can do so safely. this is the second requirement set in this resolution. every minute counts for thousands of afghans who are waiting. the third expectation is the fight against terrorism. here we reiterate our firmest condemnation of the recent attacks. as we have already said in this room, we will work tirelessly hard against this scorch. the taliban have made commitments and they should live up to those commitments. we think tribute to the fight against terrorism. and break any links of allegiance with al qaeda. the resolution that has just been adopte

and international aid has been put on hold.ould this affect the taliban's ability to keep the country running, or will it mostly in -- mostly impact the afghan people? this is "inside story." ♪ hello, and welcome to the program. i'm mohammed jamjoom. afghanistan is the world's seventh poorest country and mostly relies on eight. -- on aid. now, its economic prospects look even more bleak. the united states has frozen more than $9 billion of afghanistan's international reserves, held in its central bank. and the international monetary fund has suspended payment of more than $460 million for afghanistan, as part of a coronavirus relief program. more financial measures are likely to be imposed by western capitals, as they put pressure on the taliban's leaders. they promised to form an inclusive government and ensure the nation will not become a safe haven for other armed groups. the international community says it is waiting to see how this will be a momentum on the -- how this will be implemented on the ground. many warned that wi

all parties must respect international humanitarian law. the third expectation set in the resolution is the fight against terrorism. here i reiterate our furthers -- firmest condemnation of the latest attacks. we will continue to tirelessly fight against this scourge. the taliban have made commitments and they should live up to those commitments and effectively contribute to the fight against the financing of terrorism and break any links of allegiance toward al qaeda. the resolution that has just been adopted largely recalls everyone's obligations under international humanitarian law and human rights. in particular when it comes to the protection of civilians and the rights of women. for the latter group, the horizon is much darker now. it is our duty to give them hope once again. the achievements of the past 20 years must be preserved and the afghans who have been on the frontlines in recent years, their full participation is essential for any political solution. i would like to underscore that -- expectations for the establishments of ne

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so, international terrorism remains a challenge.refore, nathan -- nato needs to stay vigilant, to stay at the forefront of the fight of international terrorism, but there are lessons that need to be learned and we will do that. the main focus today is to get people out of afghanistan come out from the airport, and then we will examine the lessons learned after the immigration has been finalized. >> brussels morning. >> thank you very much. i would like to ask especially about nato in afghanistan. nato is not only u.s.. -- not only u.s. don't you think the decision you took was wrong? how do you respond from that? how many more foreign policy will be followed before our work will be implemented and planned? when we saw this aggression, as an afghan woman, you see this situation is -- and there's thousands of -- who don't know for the future what is going on and what should happen for them. they are always asking, what does it mean 20 years, nato with all the international communities, and then we are going back again 20 years after w

reflect that on the international landscape. we also discussed the latest developments, political and security during our joint meeting with discuss how to and a 5 international efforts in order to provide safe passages to the civilians provide maximum protection to them and also the peaceful transition of power in a manner that preserves the resources of the afghan people, so i express that cut that it's fully prepared to provide maximum support to maintain stability and again, and also provide the positive prospects for the protection of preservation of the game people's right. a. we also discuss the mean to every document on any possible hillman catastrophe, including the delivery of the necessary aid. we also discussed the means to combat terrorism, especially that the dentist then is a turning point and of a party on history. we had a good that taliban should demonstrate corporation and not all on our own. the obligation plays on the soldiers in this context. once again, i sank his excellency for his visit to the state of c

and international partners. we have been supporting the afghans in their inner afghan -- intra-afghan dialogue. representatives from the government of the taliban and afghanistan continue to be represented in doha. reporter: how many will the u.s. aim to relocate to the united states and how many will the u.s. relocate before leaving the airport? mr. price: we are going to maintain a diplomatic presence in kabul for as long as it is safe and responsible for us to do so. you heard from the president today that his top priority is the safety and security of the american people. we will seek to maintain a presence on the ground. right now, at the airport, for as long as it is safe to do so. dod is working around the clock to reestablish positive control so that both aircraft can land and take off. the military aircraft is important for relocation. the commercial aircraft is important for the capacity it would lend to third-party nationals, afghans, anyone not affiliated with the u.s. government program not able to

but you, when you have an international community, right? so purpose is tend to start a school in april. the was, what was you to mention power because that benefits them. that process needs to change the population has been for us on the street demonstrating. let me bring inch. let me bring in joseph and ask that question. do you think global interest is rising for some sort of new international intervention in haiti? ah, i don't think it went now. global surest all. for intervention, you have the board? i think right now all international intervention is for me necessarily and hate the ah, i think i'm trying to be realistic for me from our international relations point of view necessarily. can it be, what can it be useful? i mean, the last round of you and, you know, she was just trying to root out left, his supporters after the overthrown buttons. i was steed. it was, it wasn't seen as a very healthy intervention. was it? i no, no, no, it wasn't. industrial interventions in hey, did have, are, are already is, are filled. all the intervent

when it comes to the report of amnesty international, i grew up admiring the work of amnesty internationalknow the work of amnesty international. i was not trying to criticize them. i was focused on this report. i was not referring to a report that came out back in november or december. going back to your question, i think the root cause has to be steady. ethiopia is an important country. i don't think it will become like yugoslavia. it has a strong foundation. my father's generation grew up in europe where everybody was saying ethiopia a breakup because of endless conflicts going on. the famine and all kinds of stuff. ethiopia survived. ethiopia i hope will survive. it has to begin to have a conversation, a needed conversation between different actors. there are so many differences in ethiopia. there are many organizations that are taking arms to address what they perceive to be injustices done to them or to their people. perhaps it might be my background that i believe that conversation is more important than taking arms but i think ethiopia should begin to look at those options because

and how that international fora. we've witness time and again how taliban have broken, their promise has been commitments in the past. we have seen gruesome images of parliament's mass executions of military personnel and target killing of civilians and kandahar and other big cities. mister president, we cannot allow this to happen in cobbled which have been the last refuge for many people escaping violence and parliament revenge attacks. cobble residents are reporting that taliban have already started house to house searches in some neighborhoods, registering names and looking for people and their target list. there are already reports of target killings and looting into city cobble residents are living in absolute fear right now. mister president. there is no time for blame game anymore . we have an opportunity to prevent further violence. prevent i've gone stun descending into a civil war and becoming a pariah state. therefore, the security council and the un secretary general should use every means that its dispo

terrorists and 5 adherence to international law, including international humanitarian law. we emphasize that international support to any future government will depend, at least in part, on adherence to these 5 elements. and it is in the interest of all of afghanistan's neighbors to renew support for a negotiated settlement that brings the afghan people the peace that they so urgently deserve and creates a stable region. we welcome the role of the secretary general's personal envoys on our know is playing in support of this objective. to close, i'd like to express my appreciation for efforts taken by partners and allies to maintain international civilian and diplomatic operations in afghanistan. we are thankful to those who have stepped up in this critical role. and as we continue with our military withdrawal from afghanistan, we want all afghans to know as president biden has stated that we remain committed to a strong partnership with the country and its people. us security assistance continues to afghan forces as does our development and humanitarian aid to the afghan pe

they look into the international community for support, the same international community that assured them that opportunities would be expanded. education would be guaranteed. freedoms would spread and rights would be secured. seconds. the international community must tonight to make sure that i've gone is done is never again used as a platform or safe haven for terrorist organizations. i appeal to the security council and the international community as a whole, to stand together to work together and act together. and use all tools in its disposal to suppress the global terrorist threat enough gun is done. and to get into that basic human rights to be respected regardless of the world's power. these 2 fundamental principles in which our will there such a deep and abiding interest must be upheld. mister president's, united nations is committed to supporting off guns. we continue to have stuff and offices in areas that have come and the taliban control. i am relieved to report that in large measure our personnel and premises i've been respected. we are to taliban to continue to do so. a

we've heard from the biden and ministration that what the talent 6 is international recognition. you heard there from the spokesperson as he echo the sentiments. but the united states today is going to hold the taliban accountable in terms of the human rights and also concerns about the treatment of women. so this is certainly going to be one barometer that will be used or metric that will be used to kind of measure that relationship going forward. but the tougher relationship for the united states and for joe biden, may be with the american population. given the fact that they have not been happy with the images they've seen on their tv screens in recent weeks, not only the recent death of 13 service members, but also the final images. and then the image is once that handover had occurred, or the withdrawal of the american forces that occurred, we saw the taliban walking around, an american uniforms carrying american weapons. and the helicopters may not be functional, but the optics are that they are in control of an airport filled with american munitions. and that does not play

so if i'm this international, i grew up. i mining the work of i'm the international. i know the work from this international. i wasn't trying to create site, i'm the just myself. i was focused on this report. i wasn't referring to report that came back in november, december. and but going back to your question, i think the root cause has to be study. it's your best and important country. i don't think it will become like people's lobby. i don't think you feel that will break up. it has a strong foundation. my father's generation grew up in europe, where they said where everybody was saying that will break up because of endless conflicts that was going on the, the time and, and all kinds of stuff. but if you'll survive in the field, i hope will survive. but there has to begin to have a conversation, a needed conversation between different actors. there are so many differences. yeah . there are many organizations that are taking arms to address what they received to be and justice is done to them or to their people. but i hope maybe it perhaps might be my background tha

respect for the rule of law and compliance with international law, including international humanitarian law and human rights law is imperative. we call now for the utmost restraint to protect lives and ensure the dire humanitarian needs be addressed. given the urgency of the situation and the desperate plight facing the afghan people, it is vital we act to address the crisis facing afghanistan. lives are at imminent risk. the international community has the responsibility to respond, to act to protect civilians, and alleviate the suffering of the afghan people. safe and reliable humanitarian access must be guaranteed and protected. and the work of all relevant you and mentoring partners be facilitated without exception. mr. president, those who have worked for peace, human rights defenders who have endeavored tirelessly to promote and protect the rights of their fellow citizens must not be abandoned now. i wish to address the women of afghanistan directly. women who have the most at stake as the democratic government dissolves and an uncertain future awaits. i'm speaking to the women at

and how that international fora. we witness time and again how taliban have broken, their promise has been commitments in the past. we have seen gruesome images of parliament massey executions of military personnel and target killing of civilians in kandahar and other big cities. mister president, we cannot allow this to happen in cobbled and seen some cannibal air forward to showing the desperate lin. people are willing to go see to get ice off afghan. a stone video from the airport shows crowds running along side attack. seen us military aircraft, some even clinging to the sides. of course, you can imagine what happened next. so commercial flights have been cancelled. well, on the streets of the capital lawn, taliban fighters are becoming a regular sites. prop bryce has this report from campbell, the city of cobble has experience so much upheaval for decades. and this is another change to get used to. and one that's far from easy to go. most of all of our customers cuz most of the got the situation for now. it's no

it is international reserves. so these are not to be used by the afghan government and now certainly not by the taliban. and it's not their right to have this money to the ask and people's money. ok v i n f as indicated that once there is stability and governments then some solar transfers could happen. do you think this will happen once there is stability, we could start seeing more cash flowing into the country. i think a lot remains uncertain. us sanctions still exist on the taliban. they have been in place since 2001 led by the treasury apartments, office of foreign asset control or facts. and those were actually implementing united nations sanctions from the 1990. so the international communities still have sanctions on the taliban as well as the united states, which makes it very, very difficult to engage in financial transactions with the taliban. and now that they lead lead the government. and it was just where the impacts of these decisions of jonathan's already one of the poorest countries in the world i

-- it lives up to international commitments and afghanistan does not begin become a safe haven for international terrorists. a stable afghanistan is in the interest of all countries, not least neighbors like pakistan. >> the next question goes to washington post. >> thank you. secretary-general, you warned the taliban, "they will not be recognized by the international community if they take the country by force." now that they have done that, what is nato's position on recognizing the taliban as the government of afghanistan? is recognition out of the question? is a condition done a set of criteria? does nato currently have a line of communication with the taliban? thank you. sec.-gen. stoltenberg: nato does not recognize states. nato allies can do that. it was stated in the meeting today that diplomatic recognition is something which is -- it has to be conditioned on how the new government behaves and to what extent they live up to their international commitments. the message is reflected in the statement agreed by foreign ministers today. that is about the need for afghanistan to live up to co

and they expected clear support from the international community. and this lack of unity is a disappointment for us and for them. and yet i don't doubt that all of the members of this council share the same priority objective, not just to say, allowing the african people to recover stability and security. in spite of all of this, we have adopted an important text which needs to now be implemented on the ground as the security situation and the humanitarian situations continue to deteriorate. the resolution that this council has just adopted is clear. it sets a series of expect to expectations for the taliban. the 1st concerns all africans who feel threatened and who wish to leave. the taliban has taken commitments and we are asking them to adhere to those commitments. this resolution calls on everyone to make all efforts to secure the airport and the surrounding area and to create this safe passage and protection is authentic. went on condition to ensure that threatened afghans who wish to leave can do so safely, but also to ensure that she mandator

context of this international contest over what nationhood means? right, and if i and i can build off of that a little bit and another one of our wonderful audience questions about we have a question asking whether all of this rhetoric was just pr for white southerners or just a way to justify their actions. was it how sincere was it? you know, that's kind of something we've gotten to already but when you talk about white southerners, you're not just talking about white native born southerners you also have some foreigners in your your book in your story as well. would you speak to what they add to this conversation? i'm thinking specifically of john mitchell, but please talk about anyone you'd like. yeah, the context here. is that the united states at the time of the civil war had a significant immigrant population when we put together all of the immigrants and their sons who fought in the civil war were looking at almost half of the us troops and upwards of 10% and the south so that created a direct sense of connection right there. so one of the t

all the international community. people have worked to advance human rights actors or those whose lives and opinions are simply perceived to be opposed to the taliban ideal. it's great for women, for journalists, and for the new generation of civil society. this will have emerged in the past years. i was on the stands diverse, ethnic and religious minorities are also at risk of violence and refreshment, given previous patterns of serious violations on the taliban rule and reports of killings and targets it attacks in written months. the harrowing, when human italian situation, aggravated by sustain brought the cubic 19 pandemic, and significant shortfalls in enabling economic, social, and cultural rights as further deepen with recent events and months ago. as d, deborah lyons indicated that 18000000 of africans were facing a day or even italian situation. this was double the number in july 2020, amounting to one half the people in the country, and it is set to increase. you and hcr has estimated an additional $270.00

and there is, there are, there is actually international legal proceeding at the international court of justice. and also there's a full investigation by the international criminal court, specifically targeting the, the state or the military leadership. and so, you know, that the military has gone from, you know, worse to worst. and the question is, why is the united nations security council and talk ok, let me put some of those pointed soup. let me put some of those points manzona and london to john pack up. the point about cremmit toria. this john sir, is signaling it's getting ready to cremate up to $3000.00 bodies per 24 hours. that's death on an industrialized scale. 230000 people have been displaced inside the country to get away from what the john tre is doing. some of the borders have been closed, so they can't cross the border into some of the neighboring countries, and they can't go back to where they, the places they might call home. is it fair of me to say the country is in free fall, in a completely unique situation that we have not seen before, even by the standards of

i don't know where is international people.he woman that they are living in kabul, they are very sad from international community and also from the world. stephanie: as the taliban flag flies over major afghan cities this week, kamila and thousands of women feel abandoned. for the pbs newshour, i'm stephanie sy. vanessa: i am vanessa ruiz at newshour west in for stephanie sy. we will return to the full program after the latest headlines. u.s. health officials are expected to recommend covid booster shots for everyone, regardless of age. an announcement could come tomorrow, calling for boosters eight months after the second dose of the pfizer or moderna vaccines. the transportation security administration announced today airline travelers will be required to wear masks until january 18, 2022. the current tsa mask mandate was set to expire in september. and texas governor greg abbott, who has strongly opposed mask mandates, has tested positive. he's been vaccinated and says he has no symptoms. we'll focus on the booster shot issu

welcome internally, externally, internally, we will see how they're all in addition developed how they put people in places of power inside the country. also dramatically. who do they send as investors to other parts of the world and will they be accepted? will open up. and there may be some inviting that happens within the taliban as time. positive, depending on how, how power is structured and who gets what piece of the pie. and i've done this done also extra, maybe already see the northern alliance to rebel against the taliban. now that the touching base has been done, they are willing to fight to, to make sure that the taliban don't secure control. and that is another focus point for the taliban if they are going through successfully, which many hope they don't do well. how rude? obviously, right now it's really unknown what's going to happen. what kind of a government may form, how long that might take. let me ask you this. if the taliban is ultimately isolated internationally, are they going to be able to draw enough, you know, skilled people talented people from inside afghanist

the taliban do understand the need for international recognition, for international support.dependent afghanistan, and if they are dealing with an independent afghanistan, and that, every afghan would support, not only the taliban, but right now, what must be done immediately is, again, attention to humanitarian assistance in this country. right. when the us national security adviser, jake sullivan, was asked about what the us was prepared to do in everything from economic assistance to diplomatic recognition to working with the taliban, he said quite simply — quote — "it'll come down to the taliban actually following through." he meant on pledges, for example, on rights of women. before we can talk about things like embassies, recognition and stuff like that, do you think that the us and others have got it right, that they are waiting to see before offering any new material assistance? first of all, we are disappointed at the us, to be very honest. if they had gotten it right, we would not be in this situation. there will have been the takeover in kabul, whether it be not ba

and international effort for peace, effective, and credible. let me read to reiterate here that upon a stand desired nothing but friendly relation and peaceful coexistence with pakistan based on mutual respect for each other. sovereignty. mister president, were alarmed by reports and incidents, the gross human rights violation by the taliban and their foreign terrorist associate in almost half of our country. and we are extremely concerned about the safety and security of people in cities under taliban attacks. and what brutality would await them. i'm glad to see mister shalt act better. chairwoman of the afghan independent human rights commission to should for the light on this. but shocking and heart wrenching images and videos of taliban brutality and cruelties against civilian population. and people suspected of working for the government and international forces are emerging in social media, which are too graphic to even describe them. in my statement here. suicide bombings, summary, execution, revenge, killing stoning to that chopping of

ok, i think we wipe international very, very good meeting hop. why didn't the committee has always fill in haiti. i think the international community has its own interest and in haiti we need does to negotiate with them and all. and to get one with relation, we got 30 seconds, want to quickly give it to jake. can there be an international intervention that looks out for haitian interests and who had forced that upon global powers? 30 seconds, jake. yeah. if history is any guide, the answer is clearly no. and we look at the security situation and the history here. i mean, the international community, again, has spent billions of dollars to build the haitian police to implant and impose interface with foreign troops. and these have not caused any long term benefits in terms of security, right? so i think again, we see these constant short term solutions that are prioritizing outside interest over those of patients and solutions, not an intervention, but empowering agents and standing in solidarity with agents to take charge of their own country. bu

and international aid has been put on hold. could this effect to paula barnes ability to keep the country running? or will it mostly impact the afghan people? this is inside story. ah . hello and welcome to the program. i'm having jim, jim, i've dentist in the world 7 support country and mostly relies on aid. now it's economic prospects look even more bleak. the united states has frozen more than $9000000000.00 of afghanistan's international reserves held in its central bank. and the international monetary fund has suspended payment of more than $460000000.00 for afghan. a stand as part of a corona virus relief program. more financial measures are likely to be imposed by western capitals as they put pressure on the taliban leaders. they promised to form an inclusive government and ensure the nation will become a safe haven for other groups. the international community says it is waiting to see how this will be implemented on the ground. many warned that without international recognition and donation, the group might not be able

and we're now at a new, new understanding international law. the businesses may be culpable, may be liable for either civil suits or for, or perhaps for war crimes, if they're involved in a manner that wanting to violating what are our new understanding or crimes constitutes. so british companies, international companies that are, that are actively engaged in the, in the settlements. you know, please, please keep the warning to far from the union, leave the parent company of ice cream brand abandoned. jerry is having to apologize and say, we oppose a boy called davis with actors. they may, they may thank those have been injurious for getting them off the war credit liability because they refusing to fill the ice cream now in the legal settlement. sure. and if you think in the one, this is a, this is a, a tempest in the, in a tea party i, american ice cream maker is going to withdraw selling ice cream from the, from the settlements. but you can see how the reaction of the israeli government, the president of israel's called us economic terrorism

nato has worked to maintain operations at kabul international airport. the airport open. pay tribute to them as they work in very difficult circumstances. i also thank our allies, in particular turkey, the united states, england in securing the airport. i think all the allies who have been willing to receive afghans at risk. we discussed our approach to those in power in kabul. we expect the taliban to uphold their commitments, that afghanistan does not become a safe haven for terrorism. we called for an end to violence around the country. over the years, nato's presence and the support of the international community have allowed afghans to make unprecedented social, economic, and political process -- progress. any government that attempts to undo this process -- third, we have agreed we would not allow terrorists to threaten us again. nato's engagement was a response to the attack on the united states on 9/11. our objective was to prevent terrorists from using afghanistan as a safe haven for further attacks on. no terrorist attacks on allied soil have been organized from

and is not surprising, given the purely formal way in which the form that international security forces. the nature mission reported before the council, which subsequently was replaced by the resolute support training mission place. for our part, the russian federation has consistently called for a peace, safe and going to stand on his territory. that would be no terrorist or drug threat emanating, we will continue our support ref guns to achieve this goal. thank you. i think the representative of the russian federation for the statement and i'll give the floor to the representative of estonia. thank you mister president. in light of the uncertain developments enough dentist and the urgent and precarious security situation in couple airport as sonya gave it support to this resolution. today, the humanitarian situation in afghanistan is deteriorating, humanitarian organizations and the un have committed to stay and to deliver relief and assistance, but they need unimpeded access and assurances that their stall and aid providers can work and deliver assistance without interference or thre

and the international community _ respected. and the international community is — respected.d the international community is much more likelyl respected. and the international. community is much more likely do that, presumably, if... done without reprisals and without bloodshed? i think that's exactly right, and it is certainly going to strengthen the willingness of the international community to work with whatever government emerges in afghanistan if it is done without reprisals and along the lines that the spokesman discussed. if it is different story, if there are continued reprisals and gross violations of human rights, then the international community's reaction of course is going to be much different. colonel chris kolenda there. let's hear from jim townsend. he was president obama's deputy assistant secretary of defence for europe and nato. now, he's now at the center for a new american security. we have to begin preparing ourselves for a humanitarian operation there of some type. we are looking at evacuations now. you've mentioned british troops going in, us troops ar

international citizens. the situation will continue to remain fluid in the coming hours and likely in the coming days. nevertheless, we are operating on multiple fronts and around the clock to protect our people. those who have worked side by side with united states over the years and other vulnerable atkins. now before i take your questions, i do want to speak to one additional issue that is of great importance to us. and that is the u. s. response to the earthquake and he united states as closely monitoring the situation falling in magnitude 7.2 earthquake that struck south the southwestern part of the country. on august 14th, we offer our deepest condolences to all who suffered the loss of loved ones or saw their homes or businesses destroyed. we are in close contact with patient authorities to respond to the earthquake in any request for assistance on saturday . us it, us 80, deployed a disaster assistance response team or a dart to lead the u. s. government humanitarian response efforts. and yesterday,

many international actors have called for that. if that happens, it will be easier to have some kind of relationship compared to if we have a taliban similar to what we saw 20 years ago. i think the important thing is to try to convey a clear message that we need a peaceful transition of power, transfer of power, we need an inclusive government in afghanistan, respecting fundamental human rights. nato has ended its military presence. the international community and nato can continue to play a role, development aids, different nongovernmental is a sense, they are playing an important role in afghanistan. they will hopefully be able to continue to play that role. also to protect and support human rights. they may continue, depending a bit on the development in afghanistan and the message from the nato summit, the nato leaders was that we should relinquish all these tools, the development aid, the tools to try to continue to support a peaceful development in afghanistan and i am certain nato allies are ready to continue to do so. >> a