oh, i'm going to join on the phone by andre tuna fees, the head of the russian international affairs council. that's a moscow based think tank that was founded by the various russian institutions, including the foreign ministry. you want to rush us most respected foreign policy experts tell us who has advised the russian president to invade ukraine and why? well, i don't think i cannot answer the question. i can only argue that i don't think that diplomats, the foreign minister, your think tanks advised him to do that. because to the best of my knowledge, all the experts at mon, respectful, think tanks conceited. this operation to be inconceivable. we did our cost benefit analysis and i think all of us maybe, with very few exceptions, concluded if you, even if we put all the ethical considerations aside, we all concluded that russia has a lot to lose, but not much to gain, even if the military operation is successful. okay, then i'll ask you another killer question. what does putin want? you should probably put in, but i think that he's the least of demand. and 1st of all, he does want you p

well, to discuss that, i'm now joined by the director general of the russian international affairs council, mr. carson. good to talk to you again. thank you very much for your time. welcome. now, you have full day and russian and made her attention for quite some time. did it ever occur to you that russia, who'd take drastic action to protect what it seems to be if national intra? no, frankly, i should tell you that i was shocked as menu was to see the special operation of the russian federation on hold. and i thought that i rational cause benefit analysis would suggest that the risks to high end probably should steal sticker to diplomacy. also, as you recall, there was a chain of higher level visits to moscow by us and statesmen. and after each show that we experts usually concluded that the city is it allowed to, to keep the door for negotiations. so open because this is a very important because many in russia, especially the crumbling, believe that the what use negotiations as essentially, you know, a delaying or an asian tactic. it only worth keeping the door open if you actually hold

our fee is the head of the russian international affairs council. as a moscow based think tank that was founded by the various russian institutions, including the foreign ministry. you are one of russia most respected foreign policy experts tell us who has advised the russian president to invade ukraine and why? well, i don't think i can answer the question. i can only argue that i don't think the diplomat, the foreign ministry or think tanks or do i seem to do that because to the best of my knowledge, all the experts are mom, the respectful, think tanks are considered or this operation to be inconceivable. or we did our cost benefit analysis, and i think all of us maybe, with very few exceptions, concluded if you, even if you put all the ethical considerations aside, we all concluded that russia has a lot to lose, but not much to gain even you for the military operation is successful. okay, then ask you another killer question. what does putin want? you should probably put in, but i think that he's the least of demand by and 1st of all he does want

i'm the director general of the russian international affairs council, mr. cornel before the break. we were talking about the spectra of ukraine requiring nuclear weapons and this whole new play issue has a very measurable, very concrete dimension. because during the cold war it would have taken a missile from the soviet union around 30 minutes. he's a major american, see, and i think according to some estimates that i have here in russia, if you're a right to be supplied by some major or american material the time we have been reduced to 5 or even 4 minutes. and that's perhaps a theoretical scenario. but what i would want to ask you about is, what kind of a change policy change would have produced? would have made a more pushy in regards to russia, or would it have made rational compliance with regard to the west, a lifeline time is likely to be use to strategic hello, todd, who doesn't jamaica osher lie a mall now a potential preemptive strategist. and i internal, this is likely to her being down the level of the overall european strategic stability are dead. it is a said, a dange

the international council specialist network, unquote, are separate all cooperation with russian doctors of celebrity with ukraine, the world's health organization. needless to say, list cancer as a leading cause of death worldwide. uncle alerts is a network of colleges whose common stated goal is to end the disease. nevertheless, a recent social media post shows they will now be helping to do that in russia. the head of the russian presidential council for human rights believes no matter the circumstances. people's health should always be kept outside of politics. this is some kind of revenge, not just on the country of russia. it's revenge on cancer patients who live in russia. this is beyond good and evil. less by the decision, by uncle, alert, fleeting, russian oncologist under capron sage, russian doctors are still cooperating with many other international organizations, missouri skirts. we cannot say. it's a wide spread story. we maintain relationship with the largest and best known uncle logical organizations. and we haven't felt any deterioration in our relationship yet. of cours

after having failed to achieve its initial aims. andrei, cartoon of who heads the russian international council, says the countries leadership comp lose no matter what they will need to end. this whole story with some kind of victory. what if i can't while yes, it looks like they're trying to provide some explanation as a public. and they saw that last big where far as the rest of the middle tray, one blake and talking to some program to me. yeah. trying to explain what's been wrong. all might be trying to say that everything is still according to plan. and now they say yes, it was all about dunbar. note about p f r and we are not going to storm will be seated. it's all about and certain vis, cjis and then about from cleansing. so of a change in rhetoric, obviously suggested comic and this organization doesn't this confusion while not to panic, but confusion that for claire. but to be honest, i also, i do not quite understand how, which i can get out of this revolve claim in some sort of victory. he needs that he needs to provide some victory to the russians and to the world because it's all ab

after having failed to achieve its initial aims. andrei cartoon off the heads, the russian international council says the countries leadership comp lose no matter what they will need to end this whole story with some kind of victory. what if i can't? while yes, it looks like they're trying to provide some explanation to the public on the day i saw that last big wherefores arrest the middle tray 11 blake and talking to sam program to meet yeah. trying to explain what's been wrong. all might be trying to say that everything is still according to plan. and now of a say, yes, it was all about done boss. note about p f r, and we are not gonna storm will be seated. it's all about and sort of his teachers and then about from cleansing. so of a change and rhetoric, obviously, both suggested comic and this organization doesn't this confusion. well not panic but confusion that for claire. but to be honest, i also, i do not quite understand how, which i can get out of this without claiming some sort of victory. he needs that he needs to provide some victory to the russian and to the world because it's all

line from germany, the deputy was delivering the nineteenth convocation of the representative international councilans. waldemar hello thank you for taking part in our program. please say yes good afternoon. what is the difficulty, if there is one, maybe a technical one, maybe a political conceptual one or another. what is the difficulty of paying for gas in rubles? i think there is no technical difficulty. this is the main political know here, it is probably appropriate to recall such a saying or a proverb. don't dig a hole for another, you yourself will fall into it . with our sanctions, we have built ourselves a barrier that we ourselves cannot jump over now, or well, we can’t afford it without losing our political face, and this is the whole problem, in fact, well, the decision was made a brilliant economic move. this is it, understandably. eh, the strengthening of the ruble is also understandable, but here we are not even talking about the gas itself, and we are talking about the dollar, which dominated for centuries and, well, plundered all peoples like a robber. this is the reason and now to

in in the nineteenth convocation, he was a deputy of the buddha of germany, chairman of the international councilf russian germans. waldemar gerdt and good afternoon. he is the same year. he is guten tang and what is your situation there, what about your moods? is this really a story about empty shelves in a shop for buying butter, flour, and so on. and that the population is ready to freeze, but to spite the russians, as one of the german ministers suggested here the other day, please. with empty shelves , they are filled with a little bend, maybe not so quickly and not for everyone, what stood before, but such a serious problem with the products. we are not watching now. we understand that this will be possible, and even, probably, inevitable by the fall, if politics continues to move in the same destructive a-a key in which it is moving now, and we all need to understand that in the short term , everyone and russia, including us, because the company is now being closed by energo. uh, capacious enterprises that are no longer able to produce competitive products, this process will become more co

difficult to reach a compromise. andre cross talk or thomas, are there the head of the russian international fast council? thank you very much for joining us. you as president o biden has vowed to make russian president vladimir putin pay a high price for what he called an unprovoked attack on ukraine. in his 1st state of the union address, biden said western countries was standing united in the face of russian aggression and pledged the us would defend its natal allies. but he again said the u. s. forces would not get involved in the fighting in ukraine, which is not a natal member instead, biden promised more sanctions against russia targeting it's oligarchs. anti closed u. s. s. base to russian aircraft. this isn't in to some of biden's address here. put letters attack on ukraine was premeditated and totally unprovoked. he rejected repeated repeated efforts at diplomacy. he thought the western nato wouldn't respond. he thought i could divide us at home in this chamber in this nation. he thought he could divide us in europe as well, but put was wrong. we are ready, we are united, and that's what we did

i joined on the phone by andre, or tune up fees, the head of the russian international affairs council. that's a moscow based think tank that was founded by the various russian institutions, including the foreign ministry. you are one of russia most respected foreign policy experts tell us who has advised the russian president to invade ukraine and why? well, i don't think i cannot answer the question. i can only argue that i don't think that diplomats, the foreign ministry, or the think tanks advised him to do that. because to the best of my knowledge, all the experts at mon, respectful, think tanks conceited. these operation to be inconceivable. we did our cost benefit analysis and i think all of us maybe, with very few exceptions, concluded if you, even if we put all the ethical considerations aside, we all concluded that russia has a lot to lose, but not much to gain. even if the minister operation is successful. okay, then i'll ask you another killer question. what does putin want? but he claims to be met, dean is if occasion or early in, which means that the nationalist courses s

from moscow, a fellow at the russian international affairs council, and from jakarta, a foreign policy analyst now involved in business 20 in indonesia. thank you for speaking to us on inside story. there is obviously division over russia being barred from the g20 summit in indonesia. how does russia view this? >> today there is ongoing debate in the world about if russia should participate. i think this is just one example of russia being expelled from very similar organizations that used to be g8. it's not really an organization, it's just the gathering of countries which share the same ideas. >> in this case, how does russia view the possible barring? >> they said the same when they were excluded from the g8 in 2014 and it repeats actually the same narrative currently saying that g20 is not an official membership status the membership organization with membership status the membership tickets are not handed over to any country so china cannot be officially banned from the event. -- russia cannot officially be banned from the event. >> let me bring in thomas from jakarta. so does thi

the condemnation came from america's national security council, which is under certain domestic and international new sites have been blocked in russia. but the u. s. security council, censorship concert, come just days after western countries, but not only are tease honor broadcasts, but also it's youtube and social network sites leading the body to applaud the efforts of countries to quote contests the kremlin, undermining of the free press. south african politician, unheralded anti apartheid activists. tokyo sex. while a seasoned smacks of hypocrisy, well, we are receiving media because lemme just opposite go a part of the global community. so we get news from every way, all international, that rigs maybe cnn, sky and all types of things. we are disappointed with the fact that there are t has be shut down. let me tell you, i see that we as sort of dense, we as democrats from this part of the world, my dallas people everywhere on the continent we have lent and have been inspired as students of many revolution. all these other pollutions which actually invented many ideas, but to go the idea or

well, to discuss that, i'm now joined by a director general of the russian international affairs council. mr. cross enough, it's good to talk to you again. thank you very much for your time. welcome. now, you have all the russian and major tension spoke quite some time. did it ever occur to you that russia.

council. as primary responsible for upholding international peace and security, the security council cannot remain silent when basic principles of our international rules-based order are trampled by military boots and squashed by tanks. last friday, however the , security council decision was blocked by the veto of a permanent member, the russian federation. even though 81 members of the international community supported the draft resolution of the pen holders. the veto powers foreseen in the u.n. charter but so is the , obligation to uphold u.n. principles. if, in the 21st century, the security council is blocked in a situation that constitutes a blatant breach of international law we should ask ourselves if , the system of veto power is able to regulate our international relations. yet, colleagues, our meeting here today is also good. it is good that the general assembly is there to step in if the security council cannot fulfill its mandate. and it is good that we now have the opportunity here in this general assembly hall to raise our voices to recall the principles of the u.n. charter, our cha

thing we dare to ask in ah welcome back to the partners i'm the director general of the international affairs council is the course of before the break. we were talking about. the spectra of ukraine requiring and nuclear weapons and this whole new play issue has a very measurable, very concrete time. during the cold war, it would have taken a missed call from the soviet union around 30 minutes. he's a major american me. i think i put in that i have here in russia, if you're a right to be supplied by a major or american material, we have been reduced to 5 or even 4 minutes. and that's perhaps a theoretical scenario. but what i would want to ask you about is, what kind of a change policy change have produced? would have made a more pushy in regards to russia or would it have made actual comply with regards to the west? if you do, the flying time is likely to be reduced. so that will defect there are some strategic lab. hello, todd, who doesn't jamaica osher? lie a mall now, a potential preemptive, oh, strategist. and i internal. this is likely to her being down the level of the overall european us stra

he's a senior fellow at the carnegie council for ethics in international affairs in barcelona. welcome to d. w. sir, a tell us a bit more about what makes the switch blades and brock tours show different. well, the thing about a loitering munition is it's kind of a mix between a missile and a drone. so unlike a large drone, it doesn't need an air field or lots of infrastructure to launch it is very small. as the report mentioned, it can be carried in a backpack. and unlike a missile, it gives you time to actually identify the target, get situational awareness and, and actually then literally drive the, the missile drone into the, the target manually or with some target recognition. and so it sort of combines the capabilities of those type of weapon system. and i imagine that these would be of particular use an advantage for the ukranian to right now. don't have the vision that you would get with with ariel power. yeah, well ukraine does actually have some aerial recognizance capabilities with anom drones, including small commercial quad kupta on social media. we've seen a lot o

andrei, cartoon of who heads the russian international affairs council, says the country's leadership can't lose no matter what they will need to end. this whole story with some kind of victory. what if they can't while yes, it looks like they're trying to provide some explanation as a public and the day i saw that last big where for the rest of the military. one blake and talking to some program to me. yeah. trying to explain what's been wrong, all might be trying to say that everything is still according to plan. and now of a say, yes, it was all about dunbar not about t f r and we are not going to storm will be seated. it's all about and sort of is cjis and then about from cleansing. so of a change in rhetoric, obviously suggested comic and this organization doesn't this confusion. well not panic but confusion that for claire. but to be honest, i also, i do not quite understand how, which i can get out of this revolve claim in some sort of victory. he needs that he needs to provide some victory to the russian and was a world because it's all about just thinking and, but to be hones

council on global affairs. she's also a former us diplomat from moscow, daniel watch cove. he's a fellow with the russian international affairs council and from jakarta we have with us thomas know to netto, who's a foreign policy analyst, and also the host. the foreign policy talks podcast. he's now involved in business 20 and denisia. that's the business engagement group for the g 20 summit. welcome to all, thanks so much for speaking to us on inside story. done a bunch of moscow over to you for so obviously there's some division over over whether russia should be barred from this year. is g 20 summit to be held in indonesia? how was rush of hearing us? well, let the right to be very ongoing basis in the world about math and reading the participating b assignment. once in some bad it's been bad. and actually i think that, so we have so far, right, just one example of russia, b and x out from very similar kind of organization which used to be in 8th grade. and actually it's certainly an organization in the future media. chelsea that they've got different countries to share the same idea about the economy and global ri

andrei, cartoon of who heads the russian international affairs council, says the countries leadership can't lose no matter what they will need to end. this whole story with some kind of victory. what if they can't while yes, it looks like they're trying to provide some explanation to the public on the day i saw that last big wherefores arrest the middle tray. one, palm blake. and talking to sam program to me. yeah. trying to explain what's been wrong. all might be trying to say that everything is still according to plan. and now of a say, yes, it was all about done boss. note about p f r, and we are not gonna storm will be seated. it's all about and sort of see just and then about some cleansing, so of a change in rhetoric, obviously it suggested comic and this organization doesn't this confusion well not panic but confusion that for claire. but to be honest, i also, i do not quite understand how, which i can get out of this without claim in some sort of victory. he needs that he needs to provide some victory to the russian and to the world because it's all about just thinking and. 2

eurasia democracy initiative from moscow. andre cartoon off director general of the russian international affairs council thinktank and for london, zachary pagan, a researcher in the e u foreign policy unit at the center for european policy studies. thanks so much for joining us today, and we really appreciate your time. peters on my have let me start with you today. so russian negotiators in istanbul have said that in order to build trust, it has been decided to decrease military activities in keith and charity. heave is this from your perspective, a positive sign. i mean as a fly and it may be positive, but once again, it was the trust you know, and that, that's going to be the case. the russian federation has been less than trustworthy on these issues even before the invasion, if you remember a few days prior to february 24th, the right hand side that it was pulling its the troops away from the border and then it turned around, regroup, and hit ukraine in all its parts with a massive kind of shock and all contain a balmy, which never really relented during this whole time. i think the situation on the

have to get the international community through the international -- united nations general assembly, because russia has neutralized the security council, how best to hold vladimir putin accountable and his senior commanders for international crimes. there are several ways this can be done. the international criminal court has the jurisdiction to prosecute war crimes and crimes against humanity. perpetrated by russia and -- in ukraine. the prosecutor is already open to preliminary investigation related to these alleged crimes. a second possibility, would be the creation of an international tribunal by the united nations general assembly, using this tribunal to restore international peace and security. this could be done two ways. it could be a tribunal that would try all of the alleged international crimes or a tribunal that would be mandated to prosecute the crime of aggression since the international criminal court cannot do that. they could also establish a hybrid tribunal in association with ukraine. ad hoc and hybrid tribunals have been successfully created before by the united nations through the security council and it is not ou

international peace and security. i resume function as president of the council. i get the floor i -- give the floor to his excellency to respond to the comments being expressed at the meeting. >> mr. president, madam undersecretary general, ambassadors, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for this useful and timely debate and for allowing me to participate. i appreciate the input from the members of the security council. also, i recognize the presidents -- presence of ambassadors and from countries outside the security council, some of them sitting today in the audience, and some of them reading statements for the record. it is fair to say the international community is currently at a critical juncture. even before the current crisis, we saw the erosion of the implementation of the helsinki principles and commitment. today, we should pay special attention to how fundamental u.n. and osce principles are implemented and how to react when those are violated. in my task as osce chairman, i would be calling on all participating states to abide by our commitments. i would

international law? of course, not. first of all, the council of europe did not expel russia. russia made a decision to withdraw from the council of europe. that was the day before any o actions were taken in surrender. secondly, the international court of justice has, oh, i think in its decision, oh no, oh, wrong, legally unsound basis. ah. so we do not have any intention of following up on that and in the united nations, a look at what's happening around the russian draft of a security council resolution on the humanitarian sedation. western countries are trying to the block it unfortunately because oh, it is biased and we know that western countries oh, in particular the united states are oh, trying to influence how many oh, developing countries and other countries of the world. endor falling there are, they are version of events and they are course of action, which is a totally unfair and does not do credit either to the united states or all those other western countries that are following suit. just a quick, just a quick back check. again,

international humanitarian law. and we must take steps to hold the perpetrators accountable. this council's decision to hold an urgent debate on the crisis and ukraine is an important step toward ensuring documentation and accountability. i think the many members who supported it. we must underscore russians obligation even in its unlawful invasion to respect international humanitarian law, including as it relates to the protection of civilians in the conflict council, members should stop using language implying that all sides bear equal responsibility for the unprovoked attack of one side. this isn't even handed, it's wrong and fails to place accountability where it belongs. the same goes for members who argue falsely that denouncing human rights abuses is politicizing the situation. it is failing to speak up about human rights abuses that politicize and situation. we must reject russia's attempts to falsely justify this attack as a defense of human rights misappropriating terms that we reserve for the worst atrocities and disrespecting every victim of those crimes. finally, we must press

and, and the main thing that the international human rights council was closing their eyes on what was happening on those outrageous events that were happening in the ukraine. and actually with research regress june, you are people who came to power in ukraine through the kuda taft views. they started attacking a russian language, but they are what was wrong. they were sending of arm groups to easton and your russian speaking areas of your grade. and they are saying that they were not attacking any ones that are special or to the specials a sold groups were attacking local towns, restaurants, and ruining civilians on facilities. locals were held constantly and members to the state set up for food, a blockade from some of the rebel areas with. and just as the earliest, it's clear that under these circumstances, the population of john baths, that he did not have any other choice. there was no and very much the same happening, crimea back in february of back in march of 2014, that majority of population of thank me him 10 insulin decided to report to go go to sleep, tease i asked russia f

under international law, matters of peace and security are the purview of the security council. but the counsel invoked to rarely used provision of the un charter to get around the russian veto and call for the special emergency session of the general assembly. it's outcome according to sponsors shows russia's isolation on the international stage. kristin salumi al jazeera, the united nations, and parts of the east controlled by ukrainian forces. some families have made temporary huns in bomb shelters, hot abdul hamid as their stories from the city of ne pro in a quiet corner outside the barracks. the joy of family of united, even though is just for a few minutes. a chilled timothy carrying prosthetic spare parts where his father likes to be called sailor. low by the mark brushing one sailor lost his left leg. 2 years ago when he was in the ukrainian marines, he rejoined the army a few days ago. seamless. he is not fully aware of the scale of the russian onslaught because his mother doesn't let him watch the news. let him feel comfortable at 1st. freshly sleeping in the corridor

council is called to order. >> the position for this is to international peace and security. the agenda is adopted. in accordance with rule 39 of the council's provisional move procedure i invite the high representative for the affairs to participate in this meeting. it is so decided. the security council will now begin its consideration of item two of the agenda. i now give the floor. >> thank you mr. president distinguish members of the secured counsel, i am aware that the russian federation has submitted documents regarding allegations of biological weapons programs in ukraine. as i informed the security council last friday, the united nations is not aware of any such biological weapons program. i would also like to note that the united nations currently has neither the mandate or technological capacity to investigate this information. as i previously informed the council, the relevant instrument of international law is the 1972 biological weapons convention. which is actively prohibiting the development, production, acquisition, transfer, and use of biological and toxin weapons. the russian fede