so that is rattled in iran here there are differences views and iran. i i trust, i respect these different views. i don't accept people who are running smear campaigns against me to be shut up, shut down or to be quieted by the government. because if you do to them, tomorrow they will do it to us and they have more power to do it. so i think it's good that they're taking me to court, not taking me, taking the government to court, to try to dismiss me because they believe my appointment is a violation of the law. that's their interpretation. we have a different interpretation, and if the case goes through the court, i mean if the court decides that it has jurisdiction to hear it, we were present, the government will present its argument. if the court decided that i i should go, i'll go. it won't be the end of the world. i'll start teaching again. i've done it. this is my third, what is it, coming back from the dead. >> reincarnation. >> reincarnation. i mean, i i was, i was sent bk home after i was iran's ambassador to the u.n. i went home and stayed in

so there is plurality in iran. there are differences of views in iran. i respect these different views. i don't accept people who are running smear campaigns against me to be shut down or to be quieted by the government. they do it to us and have more coverage to do it. it is good that they are taking me to court, not me, taking the government, because they believe my appointment is a violation of the law. we have a different interpretation and if the case goes to the court, if the court decides it has jurisdiction to hear it we present its argument. of the court decides i will go i will go. i have done it, this is my third, what is it, coming back from the dead. reincarnation. i was sent back home after i was iran's ambassador to the un i went home to the university for six years, then reincarnated as foreign minister and after my term as foreign minister ended i went to the university and had three wonderful years writing two books and now i am back. i can go back to the university or have a retirement. >> host: a pleasure to have you on. >> good to se

iran cannot have nuclear capabilities. and two. iran has to stop with its proxies. and this kind of axis of evil, which has caused such tremendous pain. >> let me ask you about the prospects of getting more hostages out, which is getting to the second phase of the deal and the second phase of the deal. israeli forces do have to withdraw. according to the the outlines from some substantial areas, if that happens, it has already been made clear that the minister of finance, mr. smotrich, will resign, in which case bibi netanyahu does not have a majority. is it inevitable that we will never get to the second phase because of that complexity? >> no, i believe that that there is a clear potential of getting to the second phase. there is a desire to get to the second phase. we meant it when we signed the agreement. we know that there are challenges and arguments. israel is a democracy and you want, you know, you want to know something. i truly understand those who have reservations and fears because we are going to release terrible terrorists. this is the whole equation.

to topple iran.onduce to peace in the region and the world and not conversely contribute to bloodshed and war. >> are you willing to have direct and open talks with washington and with president trump? >> the problem that we have is not in dialogue but it is in the commitments that arise from talk and dialogue that we have to commit to. we held talks with five plus one, lengthy talks. we upheld all of the commitments that we had to commit to. but unfortunately it was the other party that did not live up to promises and obligations. >> israel and the united states are beginning to talk about whether a military strike against iran might be necessary to stops it nuclear program. if that were to happen what would iran's reaction be? >> you see naturally enough we will react to any reaction. we do not fear war, but we do not seek it. >> do you think an attack against iran is likely given the current circumstances? >> i hope this will not transpire, because it will be to the detriment of all of the actors,

on iran said, i want maximum pressure on iran.s there an opportunity? >> well, there is always hope that people will choose rationality. and so i hope that this time around, a trump two will be more serious, more focused, more realistic to know that his withdrawal from that, the withdrawal that was imposed on him. and he has said it, that he did it for israel, and he has said now that he won't do anything for any other country. he said it on his inauguration. after he withdrew from jcpoa iran has gained much more nuclear capability based on your breakout calculations, i don't do breakout calculations because we don't want a breakout, but based on american breakout calculations, we were a year away from a nuclear weapon, and today even the americans say we are a few days away. so in terms of being able to dissuade iran, it has failed. now it has imposed heavy economic costs on the iranian people. of course, the iranian government is suffering, but the iranian people and the most vulnerable groups in iran are suffering the most. >>

and in the case of iran, of course, in the early eighties, iran had been, as it still does, sponsoring terrorist organizations in the middle east. and one of them was called in is called hezbollah. and it had taken hostage --, american hostages in beirut. so this complex scheme where the reagan administration officials were negotiating with iran, agreeing to sell them arms in exchange for the release of these hostages, some of the funds from those sales and other fundraising activities would then translate to the support of the contras. so this that's that's that's what the iran contra scheme was. and the reagan administration had kept this secret. but then it became known and we can get into how that all occurred and what occurred afterwards, when when investigations ensued. well, how was it discovered? how was this plan discovered? well, it was sort of two phase is the what had been occurring with the funds that were being raised is that arms were being shipped and delivered to the contras in the nicaraguan countryside or in honduras, neighboring honduras and what members of the admi

we had a big part of iran's nuclear program in a box with the iran nuclear deal and was focused on iranl did was to ensure iran could not produce a nuclear weapon in less than a year's time so we would have plenty of time to see it if they break out of the agreement and did that but unfortunately pulling out of the deal and not replacing it with anything, iran can produce the material for a nuclear weapon within a week or two. they don't have the weapon itself and is another part of the equation but is in a more dangerous place than it was when it was boxed in with a nuclear agreement. iran is looking at this and the incoming administration is looking at this. we'll have to see if there's actually an opportunity on on the nuclear side to get another deal. president trump at the time talked about getting a better, stronger deal from his perspective. ok. let's see. maybe there's an opportunity to to do just that. if "sportscenter's not top 10", there's a share determination to ensure iran never gets a nuclear weapon one way or the other. i happen to believe doing this pursuant to a clear,

iran. iran has lost its primary proxy, hezbollah, in terms of its effectiveness as a strike capability. it's missiles have proven to be quite feckless against israeli, u.s., and allied partners in defense. is it inevitable that they go nuclear now? that is the third leg of their deterrence and defense with the other two having proven to be weak. how do you see that you evolving and what advice would you be giving to the incoming administration on how to develop the relationship with iran? >> no doubt, this has not been a good year for iran and we are seeing that play out every single day. i think iran has to make some fundamental choices. one choice it could make and should make is to focus on itself and focus on trying to build it better, more successful company that -- country that delivers for its people which is clearly what most iranians want, and to stop getting involved in these adventures or misadventures throughout the region and beyond. either it will be wise enough to make that c

ringback a day thing, relationship, russia and iran, a set design, a 20, a strategic partnership agreement. so what's bringing the 2 countries close together and how will that affect the global owed? this is insights for the hello and welcome to the program. i'm wrong con relations between russia and iran have strength, and since the start of the war and ukraine to her on has supplied the russian military with drains and short range missiles. now the 2 countries also minting that aligns with a 20 year strategic partnership agreement. the deal is due to be signed later this week when the ronnie and present visits must go. it's expected to in house corporation in defense, trade and technology. so all the deep thing relations driven by recent setbacks in the space of influence in countries like syria and how will this help them confront the us led weld order which has imposed severe sanctions on them. we'll get to august in a moment, but 1st this report from michael apple. the that's the sound of uranian made drugs fired by russia being used widely. and it's for in the chris to run supply of

iran, do you believe it's the moment to confront iran with a new nuclear deal which is, no nuclear program but also no support for proxies. >> so i would be, of course, cautious in what i say because of the sensitivity and president trump was sworn in yesterday, i congratulated him wholeheartedly. a main this will be issue on his agenda in the very near future and will have to be deliberated between israel and all the rest of the region with the u.s. administration clearly one thing it has to be absolutely clear,, iran cannot have nuclear capabilities and, two, iran has to stop with its proxies and this kind of access of evil which has caused such tremendous pain we are seeing historical change. we see in a circle change in lebanon, circle state change in hopefully alvin the gaza strip the key to it all is a hostage deal once now we've had the opportunity to reach a hostage deal which was very difficult to reach this agreement. it was very painful. very difficult. i met today with the prime primeminister of qatar. i want to thank him for his incredible efforts as well as all the other medi

new uavs also from iran. increased technological expertise from iran and extensive training, again from , iran. and what is the result? the number of houthis the number -- the number of houthi terrorists has exploded to over 350,000 compared to just 30,000 in 2016. the houthis are a crucial part that links to iran proxies. iranian support for the houthis violate security council resolutions and 2722. it is an assault on all tenets of sovereignty and international law. let's talk about money. the estimated houthi annual budget is $1.2 billion. derived from illegal activities, crimes, stolen assets and covert trade in the gulf of aden. much of the money also flows directly from iran. however iran's support proximity -- is not limited to arms and finance. the houthis received technical assistance and training from iran. houthi combatants trained in iran with expertise in producing missiles, drones and advanced weaponry. training from iranian forces including the ig rc quds force increases their ability to accura

um, so this being a lot of anger in iran and a lot of soul searching soul searching because iran has been very careful and it's reactions. it is shown grades. so for spring, really dating back to the killing of cut some sort of money. but also off to the attack on the syrian on the consulate in syria and damascus, where it radium generally was killed. at that point, they did mitigate very much what drones and miss house 5, but it was costly, orchestra, true. and of the lot here and who was a for a minister that time off to it's both. and he said that you know what we call to get this right. i mean, in the sense that we are trying to be restraining and lost a lot of this conflict to escalates into a wider war. but we've called to maintain that sort of sense of deterrence. and we've got to maintain a sense of strength. so there is of been a lot of criticism. this is a restraint, much advocate it if you like, by that or a full missed wing. been wrong, has contributed to some extent of play, but contributed perhaps to israel of feeling and todd to be able to take out the whole of that ha

-- the moment to strike iran, do you believe it's the moment to confront iran with a new nuclear deal, which is, you know, no nuclear program but also no support for proxies. pres. herzog: so i would be, of course, cautious in what i say because of the sensitivity. you know, president trump was sworn in yesterday. i congratulate him wholeheartedly. i think this will be a main issue on his agenda in the very near future, and it will have to be deliberated between israel and all the rest of the region with the u.s. administration, clearly. one thing it has to be absolutely clear iran cannot have nuclear capabilities, and two, iran has to stop with its proxies and this kind of axis of evil which has caused such tremendous pain. we are seeing historical change. we are seeing change in lebanon. we are seeing historical change in syria. we are seeing historical change hopefully in the gaza strip. this will require enormous effort, but i must point out and zoom in on the key to it all is a hostage deal, meaning once now we've had the opportunity to reach a hostage deal, which was very diffic

is that gonna fly with iran? is that going to be something they are willing to negotiate on what, what the red lines that i think they really is where clear back in 2015 that they will move towards regional agreement with the west provided that the nuclear deal would stick. and that would work for the right hands economically. i think the that the iranian experience is quite the opposite. that does not materialize. now i don't, i don't see any reading an objection to deal on a uh, on a bigger basically deal with the west on a bigger platform. actually it was you rhonda personally propose the grand bargain back in 24, but did not receive any answer from the united states that included regional aspects of course. now with regards to trump, i think uh, i think uh, i mean, no matter what that excuse was one of the biggest deals that has been signed by who run the past 4 decades. what with was with boeing. so the ranges understood that they need to get engaged with the, with the, with the get the american companies en

, as iran, in israel, as iran wanted to recuperate. the sort of sense of the parents in the sense that they are serious and that also to show that they have that capability and so miss all because of cost their restraint on the 13th of april when they followed miss house full wasn't misinterpreted completely as well. we'll just, you know, they will no doubt 99 percent were knocked out by a us above the defense systems. and so now they've had to demonstrate that actually is wells at defense systems on not very effective. i'm not quite capable of landing um, ballistic missiles as to saw on target in israel in a very short notice. yeah. blankets, idea of censorship at the moment of the impacts and the results of it. just some ripple is the tile of maze. we have 15 is we didn't have it in the f 35 and it had to him a base in israel, f 35 that 15 and not a single is riley casualty it'd be is to be bought uh as regards the ssl for strain criticism, it could be made that like that about certainly would've, i'm advantage over the libya debacle

and now look at iran. did you ever think we would be we are at iran and the smoke?cable attacks by hamas october 7, iran directed attacks twice. hundreds of ballistic missiles and drones, and twice they failed because the united states organized a coalition of countries to stop them and ordered u.s. aircraft to come to the defense of israel. now iran's air defenses are in shambles. the main proxy hezbollah is badly wounded. and as we test iran's willingness to revive the nuclear deal, we kept the pressure with sanctions. now iran's economy is in desperate straits all told, iran is weaker than it's been in decades. if you want more evidence, seriously weakened iran and russia, , just take a look at syria president assad, neither neither could keep him in power. quite frankly neither cutting try very hard. now i cannot claim for everything that led to iran and russia going weaker the past years. they do plenty of damage all by themselves. but israel did plenty of damage to iran and its proxies. but there's no question, or actions contribute significantly. significantl

he returns as us president this month, but well, strongly hostile to iran. he said then must be another deal is ready to get tax, the weakening of key allies on the collapse of the side raising have shaken to iran in the past. yeah. so what is each side looking for and could a wrong because you a little hard line stones, or is a deal really possible? will hey, from august shortly. but 1st, this report from victoria gates in b, as it's been nearly a decade since world power assigned to land. well, you'd see a do with a rand. under the 7 nation, a quote to rand agreed to scale back its nuclear program. at western nations agreed to list financial trade and oil sanctions. that is isolated and crippled, a ramsey economy. but donald trump pulled the united states out of that agreement in 2018. he said he ran was a threat in the middle east and the new plan was needed. he re impose sanctions that squeezed a rams economy to run into and suspended some of its commitments. and then you could do an increased uranium enrichment european powers have been battling to save

k. gemini, reaching out to iran and vice versa? at this particular point, a folder, there hasn't been really much in terms of the j. c, p r, a, or developments for data to it. what is common and is the president trump that back to power in washington and also and all the uh, basically the snap back in the account is invest was imbedded in the deal is to come up in october. so to these 2 issues, have the potential to escalate the things between a ron and the uh, you know, the, the, your cans and the united states. the right hands of course, are trying to stop this kind of disconnection. reaching to consensus or reconciliation with europeans, though there are other issues that are affecting to the connected to the relationship with euro in particular that, that you create an issue and i was doing an issue. but i think these 2 matchers are the new things that are uh, add that are added to that, that are to be added to the uh, the file that has been basically uh, has been stopped by the united states. uh, back in 2018. now they, they a

iran's air defense errors have been essentially neutralized. its capacity to make weaponry has been significantly defeated. when you look at all of that do you view it as an opportunity for israel? and what kind of opportunity? >> first of all, we are still at war. the cease-fire began on sunday that's the very last mormons especially as we are hoping, yearning and working towards bringing back our hostages. i will talk about in a minute. clearly the situation causes a great opportunity for the world at large, especially the free world. the source of evil that emanates and covers us especially with the iranian instigated cell this is a strategic issue above everything each proxy the houthi, hezbollah, iraq so forth and so on are all supportive, finance, organize, and commanded,controlled, trained b. this in tehran is still spending millions i have news for you and the entire universe their working day in day out even now rather than soul-searching, looking in that mere seeing how they failed how much sorrow they create with their barbaric effec

he was bribing iran. and in return bribing iran, he wanted one thing. he wanted iran to keep americans hostage as he wanted to prolong incarceration. i don't i haven't seen any democrat do anything like that. and, you know, i'd be surprised if if former presidents like obama have never had conversations with foreign leaders since. but i don't know that they intervene to contradict, say, george w bush's foreign policy making is that he's sitting unhappy with what carter did. i don't know which to be fair. i know, right. i guess i i'm not familiar with that. sorry. and we do we do have another question and forgive me if i'm not reading this one right. i can do my best. can explain if true, the good relationship between bill copley and lyndon larouche placing casey. sorry, bill casey, lyndon larouche and his people. thank you. okay. well, at the time. well, the short is no, but i've been somewhat aware it. and i did go back. i mean, there's no question i've always kept big distance from when the duration is people and i. yeah, but there's no question they,

, as iran in israel, as the iran wanted to recuperate. the sort of sense of the parents in the sense that they are serious and that also to show that they have the capability of some missile because of cost their restraint on the 13th of april when they 5 miss house full, wasn't misinterpreted completely as well. we'll just, you know, they were all knocked uh, 99 percent were not taught by a us above bad defense systems. and so now they've had to, does demonstrate that actually is wells at defense systems on not very effective. and that quite capable of landing ballistic missiles as to saw on tall gate in israel, in a very short notice. yeah, blanket idea of censorship at the moment of the impacts and the results of it. just some ripple is the tile of maze. we have 15 is we have never 10. we have 35 that had to him a base in israel have 35. is that 15 and not a single is riley casualty? it'd be, is to be bought uh, as regards the sell for spring criticisms, can we made that like that about certainly would've advantage over the libya to ba

that's where iran is right now.trying to develop the relationship with china and russia because the u.s. position has been so strong in the maximum pressure campaign has hurt them so much and i think this really reflects where this is we have to make sure not just the united states but our allies are working with us to counter that and we shouldn't let china or russia rehabilitate aspects of the iranian regime that right now are struggling. is a good thing when iran doesn't have the ability to engage in the kind of mayhem that they been allowed to engage in for the past 20 years. >> building on that is interesting how it's now multidimensional world where in. the alliances that are made. could you say a word about turkey turkey is playing a very interesting role. >> we talk a lot in the intelligence community about marijuana and turkey and what he's trying to accomplish right now in turkey and as you alluded to, there becoming a bigger player a more active player in so many places. in libya and other places you see

, as iran in israel, as the iran wanted to recuperate. the sort of sense of to tyrants, incense for they are serious. and that also to show that they have the capability of some missile because of cost their restraint on the 13th of april when they followed miss house full was in time mess. interpret completely as well we'll just, you know, they will not uh, 99 percent but enough to buy a us above that defense systems. and so now they've had to demonstrate that actually israel's ad defense systems on not very effective. i'm not quite capable of landing a ballistic missiles as to saw on target in israel in a very short notice. yeah. blankets, idea, censorship at the moment of the impacts and the results of it. just some ripple is the tile of maze. we have 15 is we have never, then we have 35 and it had to him a base in israel have 35 that fifteens and not a single is rarely a casualty. it'd be, is to be bought uh, as regards a silver spring criticisms can be made that like that about certainly, would've, i'm advantage over the libya to bac

iran is losses over land supply route.f the regime weapons factories and weapons including have been destroyed by israel. it's not just what we achieved but also what we prevented. when i travel across the region after the days of october 7 i heard from hundreds regional war was coming. the combination of diplomatic and military action and assistance pervert and strengthen israel help to print that from happening in the weeks after october 7 multiple moments since. allies and partners, particularly in the middle east take note of who they can rely on to stand by their friends and who they cannot. which powers work to defuse crises which stand back and do nothing?hi or make problems worse. theak balance of power in the middle east is shifting dramatically and not in the white hamas and his backers hoped or planned. and yet the region means ripe with risk, to iran's in desperan to distort deterrence with nuclear ambition to the ongoing attacks to israel with the dearth of opportunity human rights in several countries. what i

and indeed, in 1977 he did make a trip to iran.boy there, but i remember it like it was yesterday. i was actually out there welcoming his motorcade as it drove slowly through teheran. what i could tell you is there was a real belief, euphoria, that this new american president was going to rev. course on america's long-standing support for the shah. and looking away at all of the human rights violations that were taking place in iran. and then, of course, quite famously there was the state dinner in the shah's palace in which jimmy carter stood and gave that famous toast to the shah where he called iran an island of stability in an unstable region. and i think that was the moment in which iranians felt emotionally betrayed by jimmy carter. and i can tell you, it was experience that i think most iranians, particularly those who supported the revolution never forgave him for. and it created this sense in iran that carter couldn't be trusted. and throughout the 444 days of the hostage crisis, there was a real sort of desire, particular

but characterize a bit the threats we face with north korea and iran. obviously very different ones. >> they are very different and here, at the basic level is with your most different. north korea is a nuclear power, and they view nuclear weapons as the best deterrent to regime change. nuclear weapons are how they're going to maintain control internal in their own country and to fend off of the world powers like the united states and remain relevant. iran doesn't have that. they aspire to be a world, i mean a nuclear power. we all have the capability to stop one of those two countries from getting a nuclear weapon, and that's iran. the thing about iran response in the intelligence community is i mentioned north korea using nuclear weapons as a deterrent as we maintaining power. we don't know what the iranians would use a nuclear, a deliverable nuclear weapon for. when you before a effect or for an offensive effect? talk about a regime that is based on religious zealotry and is essentially a terrorist nation, a terrorist designated state, the concern is

i'm wrong con relations between russia and iran have strength. and since the start of the war and ukraine to her on has supplied the russian with a treat with drains and short range missiles. now the 2 countries also minting the lines with a 20 year strategic partnership agreement. the deal is due to be signed later this week. when the ronnie and present visits most got, it's expected to in house cooperation in defense, trade and technology. so all the deepening relations driven by recent set bikes in the space of influence and countries like syria. and how will this help them confront the us led weld order, which has imposed severe sanctions on them. we'll get to all guess in a moment, but 1st this report from mike level the that's the sound of uranian made drugs fired by russia being used widely. and it's for a new chris to run supply or shy head drones and even short range. but stigma solves to moscow has come to represent their expanding level of cooperation in recent years. and a new 20 years strategic partnership treaty is on the rise of th

of course, for iran, from ron's perspective, this partnership represents a major turning point. it strengthens ties with a traditional ally that has stood bites at one during challenging times of hostility with western powers. russia has consistently supported everyone's aspirations on the global stage, welcoming its membership, and breaks and backend gets succession to the shanghai corporation organization or the ceo. uh, recently which also endorsed there was entry into the region economic union, which is very significant for iran, which has been trying to find a foothold in the global market. that's very significant ask for the strategic for the iranian economy. but what's important is that both countries believe in a shared vision, and that is especially when it comes to moxie. and as i chose them as both believe that the west, the western union, and that's all the approach to foreign policy is unfair, unreserved, because there's gone, made a clear during his joint pressure with this reporting that the conflict in ukraine a represents the west's up unit natural approach towa