of world powers hold nuclear talks with iran in turkey iran insistence on a program is peaceful iraq obama called the talks the last chance for diplomacy to work and that israel threatening military action. and the people of new delhi are said to vote in regional elections but it could end up being the choice between the alleged murderers and front stairs a fifth of the candidates are standing for office despite these problems. and staying with india up next on our team the struggle to survive and get justice for those still living in the talks the shadow of the world's worst industrial disaster our special report is next. in. december third one thousand nine hundred eighty four a night we can never forget. when the lake edge of and i see gas from this union carbide factory made people sleep forever but it. was those who are no more today the people they used. those mothers and sisters who were sleeping that night in their homes. a gas leak it's from a union carbide made them sleep forever. anderson go to hell union carbide go to hell. like for so many years who's been drinking poison it's

of world powers hold nuclear talks with iran in turkey iran insists atomic program is peaceful iraq obama calls the talks the last sounds for diplomacy to work with israel threatening military action. and the people of new delhi are said to vote in regional elections but it could end up being a choice between the left from our numbers and fraudsters a fifth of the candidates are standing for office despite and to use. this weekend's moscow out for you and it's the fashionable kids taking center stage. hello and welcome to the show and this is for you losing in the fashion for sure why well because it's now a huge developing market hit in russia from magazines through the stores would be surprisingly venue's in the capital by case had just pulled them out of this group of girls who are taking part in a catwalk loss with the superstar skills they will need to. strike a pose for you normally don't associate walks with children are younger friends to play a part in the fashion industry and is the future models of tomorrow struck that stuff in this room it's clear that some of these are snuggl

relations and their effect on the world are under scrutiny in our special interview with talk of iraq obama's former national security adviser. general james jones thank you for taking time to sit down with us of course former security advisor national security advisor to president obama for two thousand and nine twenty ten. i'd like to start with what you think the top priorities in terms of u.s. russia global security are let's focus on cooperation first i think. russia u.s. bilateral relationship is one of the most important relationships on the planet today and i was with all the things i was privileged to be able to do in the white house i think working on the so-called famous reset of the relationship was one of the most satisfying it was manifest by the personal relationship of our two presidents from day one and resulted in that spirit of working together and developing trust and confidence that resulted in the start of training. and i think resulted in. the two countries looking at the same problem through a much more common blandness and perhaps ever before so it's not only very imp

with the one percent as he pointed to why hasn't he done that my feeling is that i don't know on iraq obama that well but that if he were sitting in the room he would answer something and i think i am persuaded by his answer if the occupy movement were stronger. if it had been going for several years rather than for several months and if it had gathered the kinds of support that for example was gathered to push franklin roosevelt to change his politics in the one nine hundred thirty s. then i think mr obama would have done or would do the same thing franklin roosevelt was elected in one nine hundred thirty two as a center of the road democrat rather like mr obama he came in talking about balancing budgets and all of the rest he came in about giving incentives to private employers to hire within a year and a half of taking office he goes on the radio and says the private sector has not hired the people we now have tens of millions of unemployed the unemployment rate in the winter of one nine hundred thirty three thirty four was twenty five percent three times what it is today and he said ok

world powers hold nuclear talks with iran in turkey iran insists its atomic program is peaceful iraq obama called the talks the launch challenge for diplomacy to work with israel threatening military action. and the people of new delhi are said to vote in regional elections but it could end up being a choice between alleged murder earth and fraudsters a fifth of the candidates are standing for office despite dubious. you know in our cities probably like russia's cultural that ties. hello again and welcome to spotlight the interview on parts of album love and today my guest in the studio is. a name that sells itself. the most celebrated russian conductor in the world by les regear given got his first taste of international recognition at the age of twenty three when he won the major herbert funk carry on the word in early again gives emotional expression and exceptional passion for music has made him one of the most sought after conductors across the globe he has guest conducted most of the world's major orchestras since ninety nine to six he has been the general director of the mariinsky t

election year republican candidates are now battling one another for the opportunity to oppose for iraq obama come november however skeptics view both parties as more similar than different because we've seen military invasions corporate bailouts and breaks for the wealthiest under both democrats and republicans so how can a new political force start to grow in america if it's sort of that the same type of cycle every four years well that's the problem and it's gotten worse because after citizens united in two thousand and ten with the creation of these super pacs and obama broke a campaign promise by. reaching out to a super pac of his own i mean in a way he has no choice because this money rules and it has a pernicious effect not only on elections but on the process of legislation because if you are an elected official and you do anything. that angers corporate lobbyists and corporate power then you know that the weight of that super pac will sweep you out of office and not only that but that when you are under attack you won't have a super pac to appeal to so it is essentially destroyed i

ten percent this year that is because of the rising demand and also political tensions as well iraq obama the us president also came out with some comments yesterday he was saying that the oil markets need more supervision because a lot of investors are only interested in personal gain and therefore households are already out suffers because a doctor says interesting also market manipulation is one to watch a crime and so the us public is a phenomenon as i say i'll be back next hour with the i think it's for the boston market all right thanks very much indicate you're looking forward to that as i was came going with a business update and to stay with us here in our view for joining us on his debut show right after and i'm days how they have lines. issues that show much of an a.b.c. huge music issue on the market can the u.s. and its allies put a stop to the downward diplomatic spiral with iran and seek ways out of the current deadlock more talks are still. wealthy british scientists. sometimes. hike that. market.

sure thank you very much for that day next up here on r t we talk to a man who used to be part of iraq obama's inner circle that's after a recap of our top stories with me. if. you. feel. the be limited to just say. it's just some a. period. if the books. now be. wealthy british style music. sometimes subscribes. markets why not become the. why no one should really happening to the global economy. mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines. the swiss the plant that was responsible for causing the world's worst industrial disaster and now it had been abandoned in a condition where it had become a source of pollution and the most recent study that was done shows that this water pollution and spreading. more than hundred thousand people in. groups walking and. more likely to be born with birth defects in children. in the sea as little as five hundred dollars. and. unpunished. emissions. couldn't asians three.

and since the ballot a friendly relationship with the present iraq obama as we say we're waiting for president come out and make background on this it's actually launched a session of the state council the kremlin we can see here he's about to deliver a detail the speech on some key priorities for russia's development now. and in the picture the contents of the speech have not been disclosed. but. something of an ideological nature and container generalisation of the groundwork made. russia. think that and according to the protocol the recession will commence very soon. and all the other delegates waiting there these are the members of the government and also leading officials of the presidential administration governors. chief justices of supreme courts speakers of both houses of something that's a parliament but easier as well as public. as we speak in the emailing of my ticket to senate session and here is the president coming out about to give that very important speech. criminal records waiting. and let's listen in to what he has to say. your. colleagues friends. will complete.

it's kind of girl you got me to call the police they're only not referring you know everybody into iraq obama yet was in one meeting didn't want to send them home he was replying to here and you have no idea of barack obama's background who he actually is if you say that because this is not just about my own well i don't care about say guns challenge background was really just point points i thought some of them to be don't know let me go briefly on but don't you think that nonetheless i think and desist and if you're doing it like that if not this is a good thing but don't you think that nonetheless for me the great thing of the bush presidency was that we've he's known i wouldn't use the word of i guess chief sometimes you need known intelligent qualities that he he that he's out of he's the kate was that the united states effectively. com came close to losing the position of unified as the power under bush you're not a space lost effectively controlled overlapping america and so on and so on and i think this is not i don't hate me some lefties gee who will finally be got united states but

has recently increased uranium enrichment amid suspicions it could be seeking a nuclear weapon iraq obama called the talks the last chance for diplomacy to work with israel threatening military action he was in europe have imposed tough sanctions on iran including an oil embargo that comes in force into force in july many countries have complied but china has agreed to help expand the rants tanker fleet economist patrick young says the sanctions will come at a high cost for the international community and especially europe. it's absolutely tragic for them because just the point in time work all of the other colors of their civilization are gradually being kept going because the fiscal permanent is a total disaster they find that the oil that they hard very reasonable prices is suddenly going to have to go to market rates all of that are going to have to transport us from somewhere else so it's one of these curious predicaments who are no one really wants to argue about the politics of the affair got ultimately it's the european union's weakest nations that are actually in the direct line

world powers hold nuclear talks with iran in turkey iran and sisters atomic program is peaceful iraq obama called the talks the last chance for diplomacy to work with israel threatening military action. and the people of new delhi are said to vote in regional elections but it could end up being a choice between alleged murder and fraudsters a fifth of the candidates are standing for office despite to be sometimes. up next maxon stacy expose the dark secrets of global finance in the kaiser of a poet. max kaiser this is the ca's the report we have fans all over the world they said let's get a look through their eyes because check out this photo of our number one fan jasmine. there are a ball that say because because we always talk about lloyd blankfein areas we were we showed him and she apparently is providing some of his collateralized obligations he comes once a week or twice a week sometimes to fight for diapers and packages them on in the city of london jasmine's purpose collateralize ing almost the entire research is asian going on on wall street and in the city of london right now thi

military footprint in the region an area of iraq obama has called a priority u.s. is also it has seen alliances with japan south korea the philippines and singapore all countries in china's backyard new zealand based asia specialist specialist tim beal warns hospitality may backfire on the host nations for the see the united states is very worried about china and is taking moves to counter that now we haven't really is going into this new facts based on a not have leading spaces of the base as you might imagine noted because he has the govt at substantially more to do it as we have this fundamental problem although declining united states who whines and china and then we have. countries. plains. and. australia new zealand who want to know who they have to work out how they invest in the country is. who should be getting themselves into this relationship if you're reacting one can hear a thing a ship in the united states in china and then really need to think seriously about it finally in this news block a group of californians are in a spin over the golden state's

has become the launching pad for stories in the mainstream media and then championed the meme of iraq obama as the angry black man here's a some examples lose it is call this is just from last week not matter when he said he wanted to kick out our you know just what he was asked to care if he had a son he'd look like trayvon george zimmerman he would prob president so much hate are we going to see more of this you know what used to be called race baiting i'm not sure if there's a more genteel term these days coming up it's sure seems to me like this is the republican strategy has been to pull for president obama well first of all the to say that matt drudge is somehow part of a big grand republican strategy seems silly to me i mean he post a picture it's a real picture he sees these are actual becomes the president for most of those publications right and he is it's also for some things from context right that's been a huge republican problem there should be a lot more voters of color in particular who want to grow up in a party there's nothing necessarily offensive about wanting to have co

iraq obama are all right mike i want to rock hussein i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight you bit. hard time for our first break but when we get back to tell you how government attack on whistleblowers probably to the death the investigative journalism for america. download the official policy of location giuliani phone called touch from the i choose option. one john life on the go. video on demand tease mine gold costs an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. machine on the call. the local. led mission is free accreditation three pounds for charges free arrangements free. three stooges free. download free blogs just plug in video for your media projects and free media oh god our teton tom. the sun. the sun. all right it's time for show and tell on tonight's program earlier this week we spoke about political flip flops all the mainstream media was focusing on mitt romney we reminded you about the obama administration's flip flops specially when it comes to the war on terror so i want to know why you think of the president's team change their views on those tough issues onc

iraq obama our all right mike i want to rock i want to thank you so much for joining us and i you bet. our time for our first break but when we get back to tell you how government is on whistleblowers certainly for the death of journalism here in america. is it your understanding and the. other part of it and realize that everything. is a big. but in the alone itself you know there's a real headline with none of the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and for what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . is the state english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. all right it's time for our show and tell on tonight's program earlier this week we spoke about political flip flops all the mainstream media was focusing on mitt romney we are minded you

propositions, is to compare president obama's record and governor romney's rhetoric on major foreign policy and the national security issues of our day. let's start with iraq. when president obama ran four years ago, he promised to end the war responsibly. he gave me the honor of responsibility of coordinating that policy. he kept his commitment. he brought home, as already mentioned, all 150,000 of our troops and developed a strong relationship with a sovereign iraq. last december, governor romney initially applauded the withdrawal, which he went on to say, partially which is true, went on to say the credit should go to president bush. but he applauded the decision. three months later, he reversed him, saying, and i quote, it was an enormous error, end of quote. i can act this up. and saying that he would have left tens of thousands of u.s. troops behind in iraq. in afghanistan, president obama developed a clear strategy to end the war in 2014 while building the capacity of the afghan government, its security forces, and its people. setting a withdrawal date was the best way to get the afghans to step up and take responsibility for their own country. with

. >> that's one of the things that troubles me a little bit aboutx how iraq obama's image have÷ñrculated÷ postelection. because now his become sort the dominant model for how to be successful, not all of our young men are going to double to fit into that model. blackness is diverse. black expression is diverse. dust out of which we do the things that we do our diverse. and so the thing we can suddenly packed that up in some little small box called barack, and/or for us to be successful, so when the brother talks about, a lot of, there was this whole movement about bow ties and stops taking these kind of things. a lot of these young students were directly correlated how they dressed to the capacity to succeed academically. then i'm looking at these white kids who are coming into my class at 8:30 a.m. and pajamas of flip-flops on and they're having no problem thinking that because they're dressed this way that they can't also be as exceptional as they think they can. >> just wait a moment for the microphone to make its way over to you. thank you. >> gentlemen, thank you so much. i

iraq. >> president obama said he wants everybody in america to go to college.t a snob. >> sadly, it wasn't a dream, it was the republican presidential race. it was a bizarre alternative universe. child laws were stupid, troops were going back to iraq, and immigrants would happyily self-deport. half of all american vs. an unfavorable view of mitt romney. that's up 19% since september. right now 58% of americans have an unfavorable view of the gop as a whole. that's up 10% from this time last year. and the republican party is becoming more extreme and less popular by the day. no etch-a-sketch can erase that. joining me now is "washington post" columnist, and erin mcpike, who spent a lot of months covering the gop primary, thank you for joining me. dana, can you explain this inpulse over the gop right now? >> well we were all living the dream there for a long time, and from a journalist point of view, it was extraordinary to see this kind of self-destruction going on for this long of a period of time. it was not driven by party interest, it was self-interest. and

honest to make is to illustrate propositions and compare president obama's record and governor mitt romney's rhetoric. let's start with iraq. when president obama ran four years ago he promised to end the war responsibly. he kept his commitment. he brought home all 150,000 of our troops and developed a strong relationship with the sovereign iraq. last december governor mitt romney initially applauded to withdraw -- he went on to say that the credit should go to president bush. fremont later degree diverged and said it was an enormous error. -- three months later, he reversed and said it was an enormous error. he would have led tens of thousands of u.s. troops behind. president obama develop a clear strategy to end the war in 2014. while building the capacity of the afghan security forces and its people. the withdrawal date was the best way to get the afghans to step up and take responsibility for their own country. we know that it does not happen. why step up? if we are doing it all? we know. unless you set a date,it is unlikely to recur. as i have said, we cannot want peace and security in afghanistan more than the afghan

iraq. >>> president obama is on a college road trip. he spoke to students at colorado university last night telling them he's pushing congress to renew a low interest program for federally subsidized student loans. today the president will fly from colorado to a similar event at the university of iowa. >>> family matters of greater washington works to provide social services for many families in need. this year the organization is celebrating its 130th anniversary. the c.e.o. joins us to tell us about a big fund raise cher is one week from tomorrow -- razer which is one week from tomorrow. first, let's talk about what the organization does. >> absolutely. family matters of greater washington has been around since 1882, one of the best kept secrets and we provide a broad range of services ranging from taking care of children all the way up through taking care of seniors. we're in the business of foster care, providing mental health services. we have a 400-acre camp site at the base of the shenandoah mountains. there's just a host of serv

john mccain beat then-senator obama by a margin of 86%-13% among voters who cited terrorism as their top concern. mccain's advantage 76 points. voters who said the war in iraqiggest issue chose obama over mccain 59% to 39%. >>> enough of of the real news, let's huddle up around the water cooler to celebrate "30 rock's" second live show, they did it last night performing up in studio h8. if you have "30 rock" dvr'd, turn your back to the tv and cover your ears. now hop on one leg. just kidding. tina fey, the rest of the cast spent the night defending traditions of live television reminiscing with big, big-name came cameos. >> live television? who cares? >> everybody. we love live tv. >> do we, lemon? do you really love the overzealous studio audience who will applaud at anything. here in the greatest city on earth, new york, baby, what's up? >> i mean, i grew up on live tv, friday night in my parents' basement, a telethon, a cheesesteak, i can see it like it was yesterday. >> best prom night ever! >> that's the beauty of live tv. anything can happen! >> there's a bathroom in here you could use, sir paul mccartney! >> see? a awesome! >> just cruising through

if we apply the end game the obama administration applied in iraq, i think that's. >> just a recipe for an afghanistan that reinforces the al qaeda narrative. this is their big victory. ten years they achieved nothing, they control the country. why wouldn't al qaeda make that essential node of their worldwide operations? it would feed the narrative that we spent so much time and effort trying to pull up by the roots. and to substitute with a narrative that's about us having a positive vision for the country. it's certainly a battle of narratives and who has a battle we 4r play into. america's ability to change and influence the world whether it's worth it to do it. but i think it feels to me a lot like the end of vietnam. these countries don't deserve our help. they're fighting against us as well as with us. our ideas and values aren't something they share. it's been too expensive and too hard to try to create positive change. while i'm actually sympathetic to a lot of the emotion behind that, because it is really hard, and failing and winning these kinds of war is confusing and contrad

iraq. the reason president obama is president of the united states, he got up and said this is a dumb war.t was indisputeable. that was litigated on the left, never litigated on the right. no one ever had to face up to what happened the magnitude of the error is completely erased by history, like the old stalin books. they think it's a good idea to have dan senor on this lined the mouthpiece of the coalition authority during what someone on the obama campaign said was the worst period of foreign policy in 100 years quite plausibly when the country was descending into chaos. >> doing the ticktock of what happened on the campaign trail today is not always my favorite thing. the fact we have vice president biden making a speech about warning mitt romney would be going back to the george w. bush foreign policy and the romney campaign not seeing that as something that needs to be rebutted but rather something that needs to be discussed seems is the more than a fight, they're talking past each other and they don't have any idea what to do with iraq. >> that's right and don't know where the econo

demonstrated time and time again that that's what they did and that's one of the reasons why the iraq war took place the obama administration has to do a good job of walking some about back but there are lingering effects and lingering cooperation whether directly or indirectly with the u.s. is cooperating with the designated terrorist organizations like the and u.k. and that opens us up as the united states to accusations of hypocrisy and double standards and that more than most here where for during a terrorist terrorist organization you know according to our resting on our own soil but so there's a lot of you know there are reports out there that if you look at the assassination of iranian nuclear scientists it was that i make a that they did it and that they were funded by the massage that they know also here that was u.s. intelligence that was applied you know are they maybe not delisting any cave because they're an easy pawn to the dirty work i think that the listing aspect of it is a bit murky when it comes to its connection or lack thereof with regards to be kinds of operations because on the one hand

been -- he's been not entirely all over the map but he's changed his view on iraq, and you just heard the charge from the obamam that he would keep us in iraq for ten to 20 years if not further. i imagine governor romney is going to respond to all of this. i guess the question is, what does he lay it out? >> well, governor romney has talked about his foreign policy. he did so at a speech in the primary. bill: that's been some time, though, as you know i'm just curious, is there anything on the docket or the schedule for another significant address? >> yes, there is, but nothing that i'm willing to share on live television right now. but to the point on afghanistan, which you brought up before, governor romney has always said that we should judge, you know, our moves based on conditions on the ground, and advice from our generals. what he's also always said is we shouldn't broadcast those moves to our adversaries and enemies. what this president has done by broadcasting to the world what his plans are is just giving the taliban reason to sit on the sidelines until america leaves. and so a president romney would

the troop surge in iraq is now in the team obama win column. ce-president biden said this? >> i am very optimistic about -- about iraq. i think it's going to be one of the great achievements of this administration. >> liz: and it goes on. for example, bin laden may be been killed under president obama's watch, but it was the bush/cheney program that led to intelligence that helped us find osama bin laden. techniques that barack obama strongly denounced. joining me is ambassador john bolton. thanks for joining us this evening. >> glad to be here. >> liz: as i go through that whole list, i think to myself, it's sort of the audacity of audacity. to the extent that there have been foreign policy successes, they are built on policies of the last administration. i am wondering, did they say thank you and i missed it somehow? >> no. i don't think you missed anything. the killing of osama bin laden is a perfect example. it's the cornerstoren of the obama re-election argument that foreign policy's off the table because laden's dead and anwar al-awlaki is

democratic amendment, the alternative to ryan, assumes even more savings from the iraq and afghanistan wars than the obama budget does. but it's savings that wouldn't be there anyway, because the spending won't there anyway bec spending won't be there at that time. why rely on something that everyone in the expert community just sees as an accounting gimmick? >> well, that's what some people say. but if you look at what is happening right now with overseas contingency fund monies, they're already being used today for things that are not directly related to the operations overseas. so those monies are already being poached, so to speak, to add to the baseline defense budget. >> but it goes beyond the overseas contingency fund. >> i'm sorry? >> it goes beyond the overseas contingency fund. i mean, the savings that we're talking about in here is far beyond even what the obama plan put forward. >> the reason we decided to take the additional savings is we're -- we support the idea the president has put forward, that all u.s. troops should be out of afghanistan by the end of 2014. so we have the full funding f

the troop surge in iraq is now in the team obama win column. member when vice-president biden said this? >> i am very optimistic about -- about iraq. i think it's going to be one of the great achievements of this administration. >> liz: and it goes on. for example, bin laden may be been killed under president obama's watch, but it was the bush/cheney program that led to intelligence that helped us find osama bin laden. techniques that barack obama strongly denounced. joining me is ambassador john bolton. thanks for joining us this evening. >> glad to be here. >> liz: as i go through that whole list, i think to myself, it's sort of the audacity of audacity. to the extent that there have been foreign policy successes, they are built on policies of the last administration. i am wondering, did they say thank you and i missed it somehow? >> no. i don't think you missed anything. the killing of osama bin laden is a perfect example. it's the cornerstoren of the obama re-election argument that foreign policy's off the table because laden's dead and anwa

obama administration with. i'm referring to not only the successful takedown of bin laden but getting out of iraq and we hope because it appears to be in progress, getting out of afghanistan. hopefully for the obama administration, iran doesn't blow up. so it seems to me this is the year where the ds are going to be the ones touting their record on foreign policy. >> we'll talk about these key states such aspen pen but you heard joe biden refer to mitt romney's time as a businessman or a ceo. isn't that what's on the minds of your home state and everywhere else, maybe not national security because there's not been a major attack on this country but the attack is in the wallet, at the gas pump and places where we know people are really suffering. >> i think you're right. i think that foreign policy and also the social issues only come into play when people are feeling comfortable about the economy. it will be the economy if the economy remains unsteady or unstable. then we'll look at those other issues. what i'm saying is if it gets to the other issues, i think that the ds have something they can tout. >> to his poin

obama. last night the panel recommended that gary stein be booted from the military and given a less-than-honorable discharge. stein, an iraqincluding his tea party facebook page. his attorneys say he was protected by freedom of speech, though. marine lawyers say stein's comments are prejudicial to good order and discipline. >>> what a difference a year makes for the university of connecticut men's basketball team. last year the team celebrated its third national title. on thursday, the school learned it likely will be banned from the postseason next year. uconn can only blame itself for this punishment. drew griffin is here to explain it all. this is surprising. i mean, uconn's a powerful program. >> well, it is surprising in how far the punishment has gone. i think a lot of people thought the ncaa would back off. uconn did bring it on themselves. specifically, the people that run the basketball program and the players themselves. what they didn't do was graduate. they have a graduation there on the men's basketball program of 25%, carol. 14% if they are black student athletes. the ncaa finally said enough is enough. we're

i think the obama campaign has every right to say here are our successes, iraq, libya and obama bin ladenel duffy is going to be with us to talk about the president's club. >> this is the bill press show. ♪ >>now let's get some real news. (vo) first, news and analysis with a washington perspective from an emmy winning insider. >>you couldn't say it any more powerfully than that. >> current tv, on the roll. (vo)followed by humor and politics with a west coast edge. >>ah, thank you. >>it really is incredible. (vo)bill press and stephanie miller, current's morning news block. weekdays six to noon. ♪ >> this is the bill press show live on your radio and on current of it. >> here we go it is monday april 30, '33 minutes after the hour. the full courtprice press coming to you live from our nationt capitol and on current tv. good to have you with us this morning. daniel stone from this week daily beast is a friend of bill. we are joined by executive editor of time magazine and a co-author of a great new book called "the president's club" inside the worldses most exclusive fraternity. >> michael