it was part of being iraqi. americans came to iraq, part of this naive attitude i referred to and my speech, thinking that, well, iraq is made up of sunni shia and kurds. it was taken for granted that the three communities were at each other's throats. if only we could get them to be balanced, we cannot solve the problem. anyone talking in these terms was considered an expert. it was not like this. however, they stated -- instated a political system which gives this much greater prominence than it should have been given in my humble view. when people were talking in washington three years ago about a civil war, i kept saying in many speeches, that there is no civil war in iraq. this is, however, a war on civilians by militias and extremists who have a kind of warped ideology. the iraqi p eopleeople vindicated and defeated those extremists. but sunnnii extremists represented al qaeda -- by al qaeda and shia extremists slaughtering ordinary citizens with no reason other than the fact they are sunnis. but people ha

bosnia was the iraqi province in which you do you minissha as were most heavily used. you know at this. juncture our lease says that radioactivity still lingers in many places he's convinced that this is what lies behind the increase in cancers some of which are very rare. cancers which are related to radiation. loci emirs lymphoma as an soft tissue concern is. increased. to alarming a number on them particularly cancer called malignant fibrous as to a side tom which is close to related to radiation. i got until now twenty five cases so it's some something strange and give us clues to the effect of radiation on our patients but we should prove it. another conflict in which the pleated you raney and weapons were officially used was the war in kosovo in one nine hundred ninety nine. in reprisal for ethnic cleansing policies against albanian coast of ours nato planes bombed serbian forces and yugoslav infrastructure. in that campaign serbian armored tanks and vehicles were attacked with dehumanisation so. a few months later the media reported an unusually high. a rate of

how much has gone into the reconstruction of it i know that i was an advisor to the iraqi ministry of defense and we were involved in the rebuilding of the new iraqi army that had been disputed by paul bremmer on the ministry of interior side we were involved in rebuilding creating from nothing the iraqi national police also disbanded by paul bremer but as far as money going into things like infrastructure view electrical power grid and all that the u.s. army corps of engineers gulf region district was over there during the initial stages of the conflict and then the the u.s. government through the coalition military was involved in much of the additional ongoing work and today there is room for a lot of a lot of firms that are going over there to american firms and other foreign countries to go over there and rebuild the country but it's not organized it's just a mess it's a hodgepodge and the people are suffering there's just not electricity there's not running water there's not sewage it's a real mess and much of it was created by our own vision of zero three and i hate to sound so

it was an iraqi boy who looked to be about six. a pool of blood surrounded his body and the whole right side of his head was smashed in. the captain searched. sir, he's dead. the soldier next to the captain said. i felt him take his last breath. the captain looked at the ground and started to weep. when he stood up, he told his sergeant that no one in the platoon was leaving until after sundown. they were going to guard the chunks of the suicide bomber's body now flung all over the block. in the muslim faith, the captain said, a person must be buried before sundown can go to heaven. he suspected the friends of the suicide bomber were waiting to bury the latest martyr, and the unit was not going to let that happen. they stay for hours guarding the a few locals try to collect pieces of the suicide bomber's body in buckets. the soldiers raised their rifles and ordered him to dump their buckets back on the asphalt. i'm going to skip a few paragraphs and just say that sergeant hewey and sergeant strickland and jose barco were taken to t

we want a new beginning for iraqis. by these things we will glorify him and he does not deserve to be a hero. >> saddam certainly use the monument as a prop for his personality cult. the giant soared commemorate iraq pose a war with iran, but -- the giant sword commemorate iraq's war with iran. the systematic attempt by iraq pose the new rulers to eradicate his monumental legacy. thesehdad,'s city hall, will celebrate our ancient culture, and not war. some of his colleagues, though, think the campaign has gone too far. the deputy culture minister lost two brothers to sit down's purges, but he -- to saddam's purges, but he wants the swords to stay. >> i think is trustee there so that we can always remember that it was iraqis who were cut down by the s -- by those sorts. >> -- by those swords. >> of this, for example, commemorate all iraqis who have died in conflicts. and no one has suggested that this should be demolished. >> iraq was flushed with oil money when it was billed, and no expense was scared. under the country

have been killed the iraqi state is not in serious course the world this is you're making out of your is actually if you go on you'll go and check you'll go i'm check that you rather have saddam and how we're going to check certainly would you rather have zero dollar our yes or no no no why saddam and kerry are looking all right gentlemen. we don't need it we have this very we did it we don't really need the our it isn't a better if saddam were in power of the it's our debts and our tired no one here in the us dollar that i do for you i would like to go to the high road gentlemen please yeah ok that was the state. building would be a sort of throw in the greater middle east when we see it i want to talk about is there how does this affect the democratic process that is awakening in the arab world which i think i hope all of us are support ok and and i would say the libyans deserve just as much but i did sammy made a very interesting point is this nation building as a nation destroying go ahead a dollar ok let's let's talk about libya ok the spirit that animated the uprising in libya i

have big killed the iraqi state is not themselves course and the world this is you're making out here is actually she's going all wrong you'll go and check you'll go and check that you rather have determined how we're going to check me would you have or have done or how or yes or no no no why is it unfair here you are a gentleman no desire to leave. the gentleman we don't believe we have and we get this very we did it we don't really need the army this is no better if saddam were in power of the debts and i will tire no one here last time i was real you i would like to go to war get high road gentlemen please yeah ok let's just stay here the nation building in the greater middle east when we see and i want to talk about is that how does this affect the democratic process that is awakening in the arab world which i think i hope all of us are support ok and and i would say the libyans deserve just as much but i think sami made a very interesting point is this nation building as a nation destroying go ahead a doll ok let's let's talk about libya ok the spirit that and they did the uprisi

the iraqis said it was a seed purification plant. but alwan told the germans he was present when mobile biological weapons were being made there. we've diagrammed how alwan told the germans that specially- equipped trucks made their way to one end of warehouse one, entered doors there, hooked up to hoses and pumps, and brewed biological agents. smaller vehicles then took the finished product away, exiting hidden doors at the other end. the germans were so staggered by alwan's story, they hid their prize source in this hotel in the town of erlangen. he was given the code name "curve ball," and was interrogated intensively for most of 2000. the germans told u.s. intelligence that curve ball didn't want to meet with americans. so all washington got were summaries of his debriefings. but the reports were quite enough to make american intelligence analysts stand up and take notice. >> charles duelfer: when you look at the written reports, and there are about 100 of them, you get a sense of someone who is there. it's convincing. >> simon:

and less the iraqis ask us to stay and work on these issues. and those loose ends would be difficult for them to overcome on their own, sir. >> as you know, hezbollah is not a comment actor and the government of lebanon. do you think the united states should continue providing military assistance to the lebanese air force, armed forces? or is it something we should wait and see? or is it -- in other words, what's your view of that situation? >> well, we saw hezbollah use threats of violence under government. we're all very much aware that the new government is still information and will have to take a very close look at how it is organized and how it is formed to do with lebanon's future. i think that an inclusive government is the only option that works with the various confessional groups that try to share power there. but i believe right now if we look at the example of egypt, and we look at what happened when we were able to maintain under some criticism that the caucus came under for giving us the amount of money that we get to the egyptia

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citizens being treated the same way that we treated iraqi citizens you know that's fair karma and you know goes around comes around i mean i hate to say it but each three others you know that way i don't think it wouldn't come to your own citizens i mean at the end of the day you know it's kind of it's really crazy but it's kind of like you know what goes around comes around you do it to other countries who say who is a line crossed you know this until guilty so no one should be treated badly you know while they're in custody before they have been tried including in solitary confinement it's a. you know quite grateful psychological torture if he is guilty he'll serve the time that you know he needs to serve and that's how it should be but he should not be he should not be tortured you know this isn't a police state or not this is a fascist government that the u.s. has so no i don't i don't think that's appropriate or you know what this country is about what it is wrong very wrong but whatever happens the rule of law has to be followed in terms of how he's treated if it is true if it t

but you're right that the iraqi garment does have certainly -- the iraqi government does have the opportunity to request additional assistance on the military side. we have committed to civilian assistance, which i think is appropriate. at this point, do not have any insight is as to whether or not to the iraqis have any interest in making such a request. they seem to have their hands full getting their government set up, which they have not yet accomplished. the only recommendation i would make and it would not be intended as a statement of approval or disapproval is that we have made long-term commitments to a country like korea, for example. we were there while they had a less-than-perfect democracy with coups and assassinations and corruption of the most egregious kind. would we say that 50 plus or 60 years of expenditure was worth it or not? i think many people would argue that it probably was. could it have been cut short? probably, under certain circumstances. it is still one of the most dangerous places in the world, absolutely. i think each of these situations has to be looked at and

well once again we were promised a quote short war in iraq to liberate liberate the iraqi people from a brutal dictator saddam hussein eight years later and i don't think the iraqi people will really say they have been liberated and so it's to me it looks like a bad precedent in the case of libya the libyan people have to liberate themselves as people are doing all over the arab world the best thing that the outside forces and particularly the west can do is to sell stock selling so many weapons to dictators all over the arab world including the weapons that have been sold to colonel gadhafi by not only the russians but also the italians the british and here in the united states under both the bush regimes and the obama admin and we do know that the american defense industry and some of the western powers and their defense industries have been selling weapons for quite a number of years to libya but when you talk about the people in the region trying to be liberated as you said about america and it was a so-called liberating the iraqi people there are other conflicts in the region oth

there was a photograph of an iraqi boy on the front page of the "new york times". he sat on the edge of the truck, 8 or 9 years old, surrounded by his family, his father, mother , and 5 siblings were asleep. his head was buried in his hands. all the clouds of the world were waiting on the threshold of his eyes. the tall man wiped off the sweat and started digging the 7th grave. the next reader is going to be diane dupris. thank you. >> i'm going to read a few things that i wrote sitting in a hotel room in, oh, whatever year that was, 01, i guess, when we started bombing afghanistan. these are short poems on the afghan war. 1, small bones of mountain children in the snow. two, bags of rice burst open, burlap flaps in the wind. even the label, usa, is fading. three, we air drop transistor radios. can you eat them? will they keep you warm? this one is called les american, october 5, 2001. we are feral, rare as mountain wolves. our hearts are pure and stupid. we go down, pitted against our own. there's one other short thing. we gathered there frequently, old scholars,

the regime change their took eight years, thousands of american and iraqi lives, and nearly a trillion dollars. that is not something we can afford to repeat in libya. the bulk of our military effort ratchets down. what we can do and will do is support the aspirations of the libyan people. we have intervened to stop the massacre, and we will work with our allies and partners to maintain the safety of civilians. we will deny the regime arms, cut off its supplies of cash, assist the opposition, and work with other nations to hasten the day when gaddafi leaves power. in may not happen overnight. a badly weakened khaddafi tries desperately to hang onto power. this should be clear to those around gaddafi and to everybody. history is not on gaddafi's side. with the time and space we have provided for the libyan people, they will be able to determine their own destiny. that is how it should be. >> president obama speaking just an hour and a half ago in washington. steve kingston has been watching them with us and discussed the president's justification for the involvement of the united states

. >> with that number of people and aircraft, we operated inside iraqi airspace about six hours a day, three to four times a week. >> reporter: that's him in the front seat of an f-15. iraqi aircraft rarely challenged the zone but there was still a danger to american pilots. >> there were many times that we would fly that we would get shot at with air defenses. >> reporter: no planes were ever lost, but 26 people died when two u.s. helicopters were mistakenly shot down by an american jet over the no-fly zone. because they fly close to the ground, helicopters are harder to identify on radar than jets, and helicopter are an important part of qaddafi's arsenal. >> i think probably the greatest threat are the helicopter-type forces. >> reporter: there are other ways to shackle qaddafi's forces. the u.n. has already imposed an arms embargo, and naval ships could be used to enforce it. but even an elite proof embargo takes time to work. any decision to intervene appears to be days away. as for the fighting it has entered what one u.s. official calls the stalemate phase. katie. >> couric: an

but this stunning victory turn once coalition forces occupied iraqi cities.he car bomb became king of the road. former u.s. marine colonel thomas hammes served in iraq and is a leading military analyst. what did the car bomb mean for iraq. i think the car bomb changed the basic tactical situation in iraq successful counterinsurgency is based on being among the people close to them when you start bombing and you start to withdraw both government forces the police in iraq and u.s. forces in behind bomb barriers you cut off communication the people the car bomb separated the government from the people and at the same time inflict casualties so was the other big piece of an insurgency and other words convince the american people we're losing car bomb can't be stopped time to get up. insurgents use car bombs against any target the u.n. religious shrines police stations and street markets. the blast of the car bomb turned blitzkrieg to defeat. to counter the car bomb the u.s. military has established gyda joint improvised explosive device defeat organization . with

his personal support for russia's inclusion in the world trade organization up next we report on the iraqi war veterans from the u.s. and britain complaining about depleted uranium related illnesses who are now accusing their governments of a cover up parts of this that. i un study has detected no signs of significant environmental problems in kossovo in the places where do you minissha is for use. in the world health organization has also concluded that the risk posed by de weapons to the health of troops and civilians is relatively low but both reports concluded that more research was needed and that precautionary measures should be taken when using these weapons these recommendations have fallen on deaf ears if it was a matter that this was confined to the military and those people in a conflict that would be a different matter but the point is that this material is likely to affect this because uranium dust is likely to affect the civilian population. professor keith laumer such as a british scientist specializing in radiation and the environment he was advisor to the world health orga

i pointed out, back then, iraqi deceptions always failed. the inspectors always figured out what iraq was doing. it was the united states that pulled out of iraq and then launched a cruise missile attack 48 hours later. in advance of a military strike, the u.s. continued to thwart the weapons inspections. president bush went on to tell this congress, whereas in 1998 congress concluded that iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction program threatened vital u.s. interests and international peace and security, declared iraq to be in, quote, material and unacceptable breech of its international obligations, end quote, and urged the president to take appropriate action in accordance with the constitution and relevant laws of the united states to bring iraq into compliance with international obligations. the president went on to assert to this congress, whereas iraq both possesses a continuing threat to the national security of the united states and international peace and security in the persian gulf and remains in material and unacceptable b

up if your plane has been filled with fuel and is awaiting you on the airfield it was the army the iraqi president in egypt the army remained neutral to mubarak step down but no one least of against the protesters but in parallel there were different things to you know a jury of our student on rest began it was dealt with in a sufficiently ruthless manner the same thing happened in yemen you see i would draw up a direct connection here say that libya will be an example for others. of. what forces are likely to replace got out his guns which seems only a matter of time now. to what you see there is a grave danger in this respect that comes from the fundamentalists libya's two major opposition groups it's not certain that they will come to power but the chances for the rather good still of the london based nationals from for the salvation of libya europe's leaders nygaard as if he himself is not an islamist but the leading group. among those affiliated with the anniversary is the muslim brotherhoods the other organization is the libyan islamic fighting group that draws its support from lib

he do not want foreign intervention because then it's an iraqi scenario and. i mean. ironically what happened is that when britain sent the so-called diplomatic mission which in fact was made up of it in my six secret agent accompanied by escorted by c.s. forces they were arrested not by the duffys forces but by the by opposition forces and and not position said no we should be here this is interference of good friends of a sovereign country and the geopolitical implications of bar reaching it's essentially what is what washington is aiming at is to establish a sphere of influence in north africa. establish control over these oil reserves which constitute billions and billions of dollars of proceeds for the oil companies that public opinion has been misinformed dramatic and what is actually going on in this country. stay with us here at r.t. coming your way in a few minutes the website that put government secrets on the map way before we can leaks but what's lurking behind these doors pioneering online whistleblower gives us a guided tour of new york to explain its pa

will call interested country by one means or another even to be rid of the patient iraqis have. already set up a puppet go to be controls and colonize a better way but it's too it's too late libya. france forecaster gerald celente says it's not support for the libyan people but interest in the country's oil fields that's driving us rhetoric and action. the only reason they're interested with libya is back to you oil we hear anybody screaming and yelling about all those people last week they were killed in the ivory coast or the sudan and i guess cocoa was that that you know as much of a national priority they don't try anything but we already heard hillary clinton say that they're willing to do anything for anybody in libya that needs aid so they're putting it out there already they're talking about no fly zones and they have pockets of sea is just beyond belief i mean for example they did has anybody called for a war criminal trials against mubarak as they all are for the you know in all of the the world is the western world of calling for his head but the other heads in bahrai

or iraqi really. help. the middle east. and american and european government should look for backing. up to a million marched in london even the invasion of iraq in two thousand and three and times have changed this is now austerity britain where starting another war wasn't factored into the budget british troops are already fighting an unpopular war in afghanistan it's highly unlikely the public has the appetite for again getting involved in someone else's struggle battling as they are at home in the face of deep cuts unemployment and it's unlikely to be popular inside this building the ministry of defense has to slash spending by more than seven and a half billion dollars in the next four years it's an intervention britain which by it's hard to afford on many levels. the need to meet our goals in russia song voice in nato says the various opposition inside the alliance against any military intervention in libya. you know as of today nato has an alliance one to take a decision to intervene into libya some european countrie

the iraqi people defeated. extremists and militias were slaughtering ordinary citizens with no reason other than the fact -- people have turned against those extremists. have reduced their impact. they still can do harm, but i do not believe they can change the political system. having said that, at least some of our neighbors have a stake in this. they can derive more power and influence if they stop this fire. unfortunately, they do. >> [inaudible] and one about the integration in the north. -- i am wondering about the integration in the north with the rest of the rock. -- iraq. i'm wondering how well you assess -- >> let me tell you how well. the biggest city is baghdad. the biggest number of kurds live in baghdad. my boss, the foreign minister, is occurred -- a kurd. how much more integration do you want? [laughter] >> [inaudible] there are a lot of refugees from iraq. do you see them coming back to iraq? >> thank you for this question. this is a very important question, actually. over the past two decades,

and center stage and iraqi genocide. if you go back to ninety ninety one gulf war between biomes between disease between sanctions and two wars the justness of the debt. and put afghanistan began in the us over two thousand and one which you click oh so country together over two decades and identities there was an arrest in a randori and we're talking about upwards of six million people. genocide some countries i feel for the libyan people i feel that america maybe bring egypt to libya and they may not like the just the but the kind of person that america was in charge replacing them will make in your. piece there i'm wondering why you think stephen what happened this is somewhat hypothetical but you know we've seen this pendulum going back and forth in terms of control of the area in libya let's say that the rebels do gain control of a lot of these areas where pro-government forces are now they're probably gassing forces. obviously they're not going to shake hands i mean i can't imagine a situation in which they would s

why is iran dumping consumer goods on iraq and hurting iraqi productions? one of the complaints is if you go to a butcher particularly in the south thers butcher will ask you whether you want a sunni chicken or a shiite chicken? [laughter] and the shiite chicken comes from iran and it's blessed by an ayotollah. so this is quite a racket for the iranians. despite these irritants in the irritants, we have seen a panic spread through the sunni iran world about iran's rising profile in iraq and this panic about the shia wave have only gotten worse in back rain over the last weeks and months. we look at iran's relationships with these iran shia, i think it's cynical and incorrect to say that iran is somehow the instigator of these -- we know very well are there's are grievances particularly on the parts of shia and back rain. and they historically have been scripted against the sunni monarchy. it's interesting also given the hysteria of some of the saudi propaganda, the persian media was devoting any tonings the back rain. this change after the saudis and ore g.

three thirty pm in moscow these iraqi had lines france becomes the first major power recognize libya's rebels as the people's legitimate representative is fueling believe something country's close to foreign military intervention league locals in libya fear their countries on the brink of civil war but hope other nations will follow russia's lead with an arms band to help stabilize the situation. discussions on dealing with libya are hard to avoid as the u.s. vice president meets russian leaders in moscow boosting trade ties is also on joe biden's list as he joins us live a new routine on day two of his visit. and as an about face for u.s. lawmakers behind a congressional hearings into the radicalization of american muslims congressman peter king at one time saw their votes now he considers many as the enemy. up next the kaiser report with max kaiser and stacy herbert heading to egypt to assess the week's big financial headlines stay with us. i'm max kaiser and this is the kaiser report once again coming to you from cairo egypt the global insurrection against banker occupation continue

do the afghanistani thank the coalition forces for intervening to the yugoslav the serbians to the iraqis nobody is grateful for those interventions because those interventions leave the people poor and impoverished and the victims and their countries are destroyed and turned into small states of the global power that isn't something anyone can be grateful for parker says balkans expert always a pleasure to have you on the program thank you. well the coalition acting in libya is made up of nato members but the alliance itself is not officially involved as of yet the europe correspondent for c daniel bushell's in brussels for us tonight where nato is deciding what its role is going to be. we're in day two or two of the nato meeting here in brussels and the first decision yesterday made was to enforce a no fly zone over libya airspace the next is to prevent the use of radar and air defenses by colonel gadhafi his regime and then to stop the eastward advance of gadhafi into the rebel strongholds now this is where the group problems begin because of course colonel gadhafi does not have to jus

and pianist and iraqi genocide. if you go back to ninety ninety one gulf war between violence between disease between sanctions and two wars the estimates of the death. and cause of them stand in and of over two thousand one. hundred fifty of them over two decades and i sneeze there was this arrest in iran already and we're talking about upwards of six million people. genocides and countries i feel for the libyan people i see it in america maybe perini just to libya they may not like the job the but the kind of person that america was in charge replacing them all mixed in the europe. well you think stephen what happened this is somewhat hypothetical but you know we've seen this pendulum going back and forth in terms of control of the area and libya let's say that the rebels do gain control of a lot of these areas where pro-government forces are now they're probably daffy forces. obviously they're not going to shake hands i mean i can't imagine a situation where i would say can say you know what maybe khadafi is gone

deployed troops in afghanistan and then using fake reasons more forces were deployed in iraq a little iraqi authorities were destroyed now libya is next they say they're protecting civilians but it's civilians who are dying when they bomb libya there's no logic in the conscience there's neither. very strong words there coming of course from the russian prime minister he also said that based on the current situation in libya and the ongoing conflict this makes all the more sense for russia to continue investing in its defense system and basically sliming the current coalition intervention in libya underlining once again russia's position that it will only serve to de stamp allies the situation not only in that country but in the north african region as a whole. now russia has been opposed to military intervention in libya from the very outset besides i destabilizing the region how is it justified that position. about by russia has suffered with your course released its new trends about the us and show intervention what it was still a possibility now that it has become a reality russia's once

the iraqi people defeated. extremists and militias were slaughtering ordinary citizens with no reason other than the fact -- people have turned against those extremists. have reduced their impact. they still can do harm, but i do not believe they can change the political system. having said that, at least some of our neighbors have a stake in this. they can derive more power and influence if they stop this fire. unfortunately, they do. >> [inaudible] and one about the integration in the north. -- i am wondering about the integration in the north with the rest of the rock. -- iraq. i'm wondering how well you assess -- >> let me tell you how well. the biggest city is baghdad. the biggest number of kurds live in baghdad. my boss, the foreign minister, is occurred -- a kurd. how much more integration do you want? [laughter] >> [inaudible] there are a lot of refugees from iraq. do you see them coming back to iraq? >> thank you for this question. this is a very important question, actually. over the past two decades,

the libyan people from gadhafi or the reaction to it will be any different from the reaction of the iraqi people and they were being saved for saddam hussein it's going to be the same delivery of people who consider them to be occupiers without hader national front for the salvation of libya or the libyan islamic fighting group consider them to be their rescuers it's not going to be so if there was a call into the same trap once again and that's it some of the events in the middle east are nearing the borders of the commonwealth of independent states the c.i.s. how could this affect russia and you sure you just go in your praise they nothing try to work with all of it ever comes to power in the arab world is a present of the old classes and social strata that was so new people the arabs will always be interested in what britain with russia clearly what is what are the boundaries are relations with russia near to a national relations become more balanced without one side with shifts in the direction of the united states and the west on the whole here lies their interests are there for all

iraq over alleged weapons of mass destruction not even exists but it did cost one point three million iraqi lives so i think we have to be very careful as to the pursuit decision of the information those given by the western mainstream media regarding what is really happening in libya and of course we will not like some of those images but if britain work to fight against the ira or spain against the separatists p.t.a. group and they are going to take action would we be also threatening with the nato we will be already threatened to intervene in britain in spain or if washington state was the seat of the union in america would we be accusing obama of being violent because we wanted to stop it. i think it's really important that you brought up the situation in the balkans back in one thousand nine hundred nine the nato approved deal that happened there were the situations i mean there are starting to be a lot of similarities we've got you know well down those of us back there we've got khadafi here there are two leaders that are. stubborn keeping their position and there's also this violence