called the red moscow islamabad is an incredibly dull place. no night life. one friend called it low self-esteem abad. it was run by a charismatic said the brothers and the youngest ran the media operations while the other ran the religious side. i needed introduction to dead-end and a guy who introduced may actually was the same individual, a very close friend of osama bin laden and the person. >> host: let me interrupt. you are talking to someone who is a close friend of osama bin laden your brother is fighting afghanistan or in iraq in the marine corps uniform and your father is work is in the u.s. >> yes. a broad made to a moral and pass more than once like what you said you have two of the pfizer you'll never be allowed and. you have to show a sincere interest they understand when someone is trying to come in and get a quote. i was able to successfully convey i was in seriously interested in their agreements with the pakistani state. this individual was very close with osama, a former pilot in the pakistani air force. he would be the intro

and islamabad is an incredibly dull place. there is no night life. a friend once called it low self-esteem-abad. there was a red mosque run by this very charismatic set of brothers named abdul aziz and ghazi was the younger and ran the religious side. to get and i needed introduction and thought the introduction, the guy that interest me was the same individual, a close friend of osama bin laden. and the first -- >> host: you're talking to someone who is a close friend of osama bin laden. you're father is aryan corps general officer. your brother was fighting in afghanistan at the time i believe. iraq, and a marine corps uniform. so this is a serious risk taking on your part. >> guest: yet, it raised all sort of moral -- it brought me to a moral and pass more than once, like you said you have to empathize or you will never be allowed in. you have to show a sincere interest. the understanding interest and when someone is trying to come in and get a quote. and i was able to successfully convey i was interested in understanding more about what they were

you don't ever leave islamabad. a year later when i -- i would rather speak with the tea boys at my office than the other fellows who were working at this institute, and she said she came up to me and says, there's no way you can be a journalist. she said you speak locally, you dress locally and know what is going on so you must be working for someone else. >> host: i did fine that in pakistan, of course, when the plumbing breaks, the central intelligence agency does get blamed. sometimes words fail using. the vocabulary doesn't reach, and you can call this book a work of journalism but it's better than that. there's should how much serious art tis industry and objective and i keep coming back to the amazing objecttivity of a young person writer who was able to achieve in a portrait of this incredibly complex society. so, i do have to warn you one thing. i think you may be in real physical danger. not from the pakistani intelligence agency but from your peers who didn't good to pakistan, who stayed home on a campus

so i showed up in swat and took a public bus from islamabad into swat and met my friend and about two hours later we were supposed to need one of these taliban honchos and it was about a 5-mile trippi from the city to the spot on the side of the road we were to meet and this is where i will read. we had been driving a few minutes when my friend's phone rang and someone said you should be careful there is a taliban checkpoint between where you are and where you are meeting this guy. so, five flatbed trucks blocked the road as many as 50 with black turbans shoulder length hair and long beards were packed on the back of each truck. the rocket launchers poked out of redirection. they looked like a frightening combination of livestock taken to slaughter in an overstuffed dessel of viking raiders. if one budged from the spot he might have swatted the fellow in the back with a rifle barrel. a few dozen made an impromptu checkpoint while a line of cars waited inspection. in the vehicle behind us a husband, wife and daughter looked anxious. the teenage girl fumbled to fix her scarf to meet the

stance as hourly correspondent in africa, she has just begun a new assignment in pakistan based in islamabad. that is why she cannot be here tonight. she is doing stories that are going to err on bbc and on our program. she would want me to think your family very much, and to pass along respect and gratitude to you. i know that she wants me to think the radio television correspondents association, and all of you. it is a great honor. it thank you very much. >> thank you. congratulations, once again. also, a shout out for mike at nbc. at a special thanks to our judges for their dedication and integrity. the high standards of joan and david permeate all the candidates and entries we consider for the honors this year. we're in good hands in the journalism world. >> thanks, chad. it is my pleasure and honor to introduce the president of the united states, barack obama. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much. thank you very much. thank you. thank you so much. thanks to all of you, thank you. please, everybody have a seat. before i get started, as the father of two girls, can i just say how in

we also visited islamabad. we did cover a lot of ground. we met with people on the ground who are working to deliver the new strategy and we had a chance to meet with many of the afghan and pakistan leaders and key american leaders as well. the new strategy has a chance to work, but i had a feeling that this one will clearly work. we talked a lot about good government than they did about what entry or military tactics. all in all, there was a feeling that we are on the march. the pakastani political leaders were talking about real concern about the western regions of their country, not the eastern border with india. if i might i'd like to drill down into this concept of success. it is hard to define. could you talk about what success might look like in afghanistan and in pakistan? the city hoped to see progress in 18 to 24 months. >> i think it would have several components. it would be a reduction or a complete elimination of al qaeda in pakistan where they mostly are now. they would be reducing their ability to operate transnational lee o

islamabad, brussels, what happened there? today we are nuclear. free centrifuges, if you look at the memos of our meetings, you can see we have 7,000 centrifuges working now. mr. bush, after all this cooperation, iran had with afghanistan and axis of evil, and nothing happened to iran's dignity. e fred nigh bandwith military attack but what about now? mr. bush, during his last days said we are not after toppling the islamic establishment. mr. obama expressly said in 27 years and during your government mr. qahtani, america which toppling the establishment. today they announced they are not after this. which foreign policy has been more successful? which has created, which is brought humiliation for this nation? which foreign policy preserve our independence? which gave more concessions? for 15 years the european said we want to criticize the iran aunt raise issues that iran is not observing human rights. asking two questions about the holocaust into questions, to questions-- the whole human rights system in the west. they are crying, the israelis a

but were clearly encouraged by the fact that ever since there was this encroachment on islamabad by the taliban and associated other militant groups, that we are seeing an aggressive and sustain military operation in response. >> you don't think this is sustained enough though, that they could actually open a second front? >> i am not going to be an armchair general up here and make determinations about whether or not there in a position to open up a second front. i think there are people you can talk to about a military perspective. they have continued these operations and they showed no signs of letting up at this point. yeah. >> on north korea. last week president obama had mentioned the united states would take stronger measures against the nuclear test by north korea. does the u.s. have any military options rather than diplomatic measures? >> well, our focus is now and has been and likely will continue to be on coming up with diplomatic and economic pressures that will persuade the north from abandoning its pursuit of nuclear weapons and the platforms to deliver them. so, that is w

i've been to person what, islamabad, and any number of the sites, visiting with leaders around the nation. i've been to schools that are trying to replace the madrasas. in this legislation, we have, for example, a pakistan, we have a pakistan development and prosperity fund. just three weeks ago, 100-plus members of the pakistani community met in new york to talk about how they can provide social services to that nation. as we speak, there are medical doctors from the pakistani american community that are leaving their homes here in the united states to go to pakistan to help these refugees. so let us look at the big picture this legislation provides. the prosperity fund, yes there are conditionalities, but i would suggest they are refrained from the issues that the distinguished member in the other body spoke to. and we are going to work even further, but if our colleagues appreciate the fact that there are dire conditions that the pakistani military is fighting the terrorist they will help us pass 1886. this bill refers itself to the nuclear materials and requires the protecting of thos

that was the swat -- islamabad. that was the swat area. faslula, rabid taliban leader who over time has taken over the police stations. you have al qaeda senior leadership moving freely with some supporting their ability. masoud has been engaged in terrorist attacks, not only against us but the pakistanis. their government is at risk. their people are dying. this bill arrogantly says, listen, if you want -- we want this bill arrogantly says, listen, if you want -- we want