theoretically israel could i don't think israel should and i don't think israel wants to and i don't think it's in the interests of israel or the united nations israel has was its creation was sanctioned by the united nations and the member twenty nine one hundred forty seven when the u.n. called for a jewish state and that term is used thirty times it's kind of interesting that the palestinian authority has difficulty accepting that the resolution of the united nations general assembly one hundred forty seven thirty times used the word jewish state why do you say that the u.n. and its investigations are prejudiced against israel what proof do you have the u.n. has the right and the duty to hold israel accountable to its international obligations on a whole range of issues whether it's the palestinian issue whether it's women's rights whatever it is just like every other country israel should be held accountable we have jack to you is the political hijacking of u.n. bodies such that they are rendered ineffective to help millions of human rights victims around the world if we take the

they want to destroy israel they fired thousands of rockets at israeli civilians and israel responded in a way that would kill a minimum number of civilians while targeting the hamas leadership and the terrorists that are hurting their own people and so it's true it is hard to negotiate when i will mohsin doesn't have much of a mandate it's not it's israel's army that's keeping him in power but what's going on right now the whole goal of improving the west bank i can amik leigh is that when they do have an election and they will that the people will choose moderates that will choose people that want there to be a peace process the palestinian people deserve to have better leaders they had yasser arafat who was a palestinian leader who had the way but not the will and now they have i will modernize the will but not the way they need someone who has both who can make a deal and when they have that i know that they'll find an israeli leadership no matter who's in their power in israel to see who is willing to go a long way toward our i pads training vulnerable and bring a better day to a

the summit ism and then we did a criteria that we called israel bushing extreme views of israel israel's an apartheid state and the like and we found that the people who have very strong views on israel that we called israel bashers in our study in our in our criteria of the answers five questions out of seven we would be considered israel busters of the population there fifty six parties more likely or thirteen times more likely than the average population to be anti semitic in the classical sense as well so there's a strong correlation between the two though differences people who criticize israel are not necessarily anti semitic but there is a correlation that's off the charts if you will ok norman if i can go to you and you're an expert on this you wrote a book called beyond just on the misuses of anti-semitism in the abusive history would you agree with what charles had to say about what anti-semitism is today and how pervasive it pervasive biddies. well the important facts about the new anti semitism as it's called is that it's neither new nor this i have anything to do with anti s

this is not the state of israel this is the occupied territories and i dream of the. wrong times israel the jewel economy and come. come out just as due to the conflict. going to. each other david go ahead go ahead jeff. if alec if alex wanted palestinians show a palestinian citizen ship he could have it he is talking about a unique situation why christians are leaving but the handful there are trying to come back and then you can always see the lady and her sister and it is wrong for him to be deceitful and that it's not. no no look this it's not a policy a christian is it aimed in the audience who have left the land and the examiner said in the you lose your rights as to be a jerusalem all right residency all right david david that's what he's going to build you would. want to ask david david david i mean did what is really the difference then i mean it's just the israeli state and if we go from what daphne had to say i think if it's unique or not i mean these really state wants to slim all of jerusalem to be jewish that's one of the high priority for them they don'

this is not the state of israel this is the occupied territories and i dream of the. wrong times israel the jewel it won't come. come out. due to the conflict because it's. going to. reach other david go ahead go ahead john. if alec if alex wanted palestinian show a palestinian citizen ship he could have it he is talking about a unique situation why christians are leaving but the handful they're trying to come back and then it's a policy and they know you and christians and it is wrong for him to be deceitful and that it's not right no no look this it's not a policy and you christians are the same did indeed. have left the land and. you would lose your rights to be a jerusalem all right residency all right david david that's what he's going to build he would say to folks i go to you i want to ask david david david i mean did what is really the difference then i mean it's just this is the israeli state and if we go from what daphne had to say i think if it's unique or not i mean these really state wants jerusalem all of jerusalem to be jewish that's one of high priorit

is strong, israel is powerful, israel will live.gives us courage and hope. unfortunately, when we listen to the talks about the hatred, the anti-semitism, the anti-zionism and all the rest of it and all of it is true and the threats and the horrors that we're facing are all true, still, it's wonderful to have that positive attitude of strength and growth. and israel is the miracle country. it is and by the way, i happen to know one of those 55,000 family members, a friend of mine, yes. anyway, here we are at the pro israel conference and the name "pro-israel" is well chosen because we're all supporting israel. but people have different definitions of these words. i'm a member of americas for a safe israel. and for us when we talk about pro israel, we talk about supporting a whole israel. a whole israel, the biblical promise. of course the biblical promise is a little difficult because it didn't include jordan today and parts of syria and other parts. but still we're talking about the whole israel that was left after -- after 78% of

israel. that is, if you look at their resolutions and lobbying agenda in congress with very rare exceptions, it's focused on how can we punish israel or create divisions between the united states and israel than help advance the peace process or a help in some way the palestinian people. now, the arab lobby has one essential disadvantage to begin with, and that is it's very difficult to see how they could ever represent quote-on-quote the arabs or the muslims bus there's 1.5 million muslims with variety of different approaches to their faith. you have 21 arab countries who all have very different and often competing agendas, and so there's really no way that any individual organization or group of organizations could represent quote-on-quote the arabs. the other problem that they face is that they have very small numbers. that is, there's very few arab-americans or muslim-americans in the united states, and even within that small population, the vast -- or not the vast majority, but a signifi

a secure state of israel and a viable state of palestine. and the fact that they're going to be doing this in a somewhat different way from how we originally contemplated it, i don't think that matters so much. the important thing is that they conduct intensive negotiations with both sides to see, look, is there really a basis upon which we can move forward? then as i emphasize all the time, in the meantime, carry on with the issues to do with the economy and security and, for example, bringing help to people in gaza and giving palestinians a sense that it's possible if we can have a political negotiation that succeeds, that they will run their own state and given the israelis the assurances that they will require on security since that is the key concern that israel has. so, you know, i don't think it's a foolish thing for the americans to step back from the original path forward and say let's work out the right way forward and get this thick on track. >> larry: how would you assess the obama administration since they've taken office with r

the un's obsession with israel doesn't only harm israel it doesn't only harm the peace process but it harms the u.n. as a whole it prevents the u.n. from being effective for human rights victims who never get their day of international attention why is the u.n. to use your words. u.n. has been strong champion of the p.l.o. since the early one nine hundred seventy s. this was largely a function of the soviet union together with the arab states started a campaign to attack israel and hijack many un bodies so you have an enormous amount of the un's attention is a stance simply devoted to helping the palestinians. and have the palestinians been helped and the palestinians have not been helped and it was coffee and on himself the secretary general the united nations in his parting speech to the security council said what have all the special agenda items and special reports and special sessions on the palestinian situation ever done to help the palestinians and the reality is very little if you look at the past thirty years of all the resolutions and at the un human rights council in genev

route plenary was they were attacking israel condemning israel for human rights violations so i think this this example captures what happens at the u.n. but there are real problems real people suffering but the u.n. is sort of locked into an automatic mode where all they're doing is condemning israel but despite what you've said at times they always solutions that are possed that support israel for example the resolution on the commemoration of the holocaust that was overwhelmingly passed when theory it could happen one day that israel would submit its candidacy and it would be elected the security council the reality today is that the islamic states are so. opposed to anything that favors israel even in the most benign way that you would have almost fifty six states determined to oppose israel and many dictatorships at the u.n. automatically oppose israel countries like zimbabwe north korea and so forth vote with the islamic states in their campaign and so even if israel were to submit it's kind of see it's not clear that it would be elected do you still support the existence of the

two years after israel's major affair. gaza which killed over a thousand people many palestinians and say they feel imprisoned back in two thousand and eight israel launched massive air and ground strikes on hamas targets in response to rocket attacks the conflict drew worldwide condemnation over the huge numbers of palestinian civilian casualties israel blockaded the strip after it came under the control of a mosque in two thousand and seven which it considers a terrorist organization now as artie's parsley or reports aid is restricted and rarely reaches its destination. israelis insist their economic siege on gaza is easing but they can't deny the border and international condemnation is heating up and asian aid convoys with politicians and activists from eighteen countries is on its way to gaza on border one hundred eighty people food and medical supplies and a determined core to reach gaza on the second anniversary of the last israel gaza wall the convoy dubbed asia to gaza solidarity caravan six cell from new delhi at

when israel's enemies recognize israel's permance, then there will be peace.nk you. >> next is the chief spokesperson for the government of israel consulate in florida. he's also the special israelis programs coordinator for the university of miami. he will talk about the portrayal of israel in the american media. [applause] >> thank you very much. good afternoon. i just want to call your attention -- now i'm going to show the secret review of the speaker of the knesset that you spoke is my brother. so you should know that next time -- you're correct. he was the only one who voted as chairman against the withdrawal and just from historical point -- i did not say i agree but at least i gave you the facts. others opposed speak about the media but permit in in two, three minutes to give you the background of myself so you can understand how the speaker of the knesset behaves himself compared to where he comes from. i'm seventh generation born in jerusalem. our family came in 1809 to israel and last year we celebrated 200 years in jerusalem thrfment were over 5,00

portrayed in weave through the use of targeted decision it's a nation israel surprisingly maybe israel was or is the country who uses this weapon far more than any other country in history what kind of covert operations do you think are happening at the moment not so long ago the israeli defense forces unit a two zero zero was suspected of infecting a rainy and computers connected to ransom nuclear program so do you think that there are other things like this on the go the discovery in below of the. stocks that. schalke the world of of computer security this is by far the most advanced and most lethal virus computer virus ever discovered i'm not saying it's the the the the the biggest or the best book ever produced but the best that was ever discovered. the the ability of stocks that to jump from a computer to a computer reaching stand alone computers that are controlling the velocity of the centrifuges inside natanz and com the enriching your own facilities in iran. in its ability to trick to play. in to exceed and to change very fast the velocity of the centrifuge. causing it to coll

is strong, israel is powerful, israel will live. it gives us courage and hope. unfortunately, when we listen to the talks about the hatred, the anti-semitism, the anti-zionism and all the rest of it and all of it is true and the threats and the horrors that we're facing are all true, still, it's wonderful to have that positive attitude of strength and growth. and israel is the miracle country. it is and by the way, i happen to know one of those 55,000 family members, a friend of mine, yes. anyway, here we are at the pro israel conference and the name "pro-israel" is well chosen because we're all supporting israel. but people have different definitions of these words. i'm a member of americas for a safe israel. and for us when we talk about pro israel, we talk about supporting a whole israel. a whole israel, the biblical promise. of course the biblical promise is a little difficult because it didn't include jordan today and parts of syria and other parts. but still we're talking about the whole israel that was left after -- after 78%

from from the united states in the outcomes therefore israel would be able to stop the arena a nuclear initiative using diplomatic pressure economic sanctions or supporting a connex economic sanctions imposed by the international community in. operational intelligence means israel would prefer to take this path however if all of these don't work in iran is getting too close to a bomb then i think that the european intelligence communities and the united states i think that they don't understand how close israel to launch an aerial strike on the nuclear facilities of iran at what point will he ran be too close iran has already crossed some of the so-called point of no return and still there is a return from that point. however to have a bomb to assemble the device is considered to be considered to be beyond the point. a in aerial strike could be at least partly successful could yield in the partial delay of the project therefore the red line lies somewhere between the point in which we are now. iran is already enriching uranium crossed has closed the nuclear fuel cycle etc to the point

policy are to israel. r.t. is coming to you live from the heart of the russian capital where it's now about quarter past the hour let's get some other world news in brief now and a third suspect the u.s. missile strike has hit pakistan's northwestern tribal area near the afghan border killing nine official say it hit vehicles carrying alleged members of a well known militant group two other strikes in the north waziristan region on tuesday killed eight the area is a stronghold for pakistani taliban and al qaeda militants who carry out cross border attacks against u.s. their nato forces in afghanistan. three west african leaders have given an ultimatum to ivory coast's incumbent president step down or face removal by force of law backbone is unlikely to agree to make a way for. me to be an internationally record. ised as the president elect shortly before he met the trio government warned it would not tolerate any meddling in its affairs the standoff turned violent since last month's election with over one hundr

and israel.our and a half, a white house ceremony on a bill that expands the number of children covered by the school lunch program. after that senate debate on a bill to extend tax cuts and unemployment benefit, and later a discussion on campaign spending in political ads in the midterm elections. we have several live events it tell you about. the drug office releases report on teen drug use surveying students in the 8th, 10th, and 1th grades about drugs. that's on c-span at 10 eastern. at the same time on c-span3, a referendum on sudan. there's representatives from sudan and the government of national unity. >> next, o forum on u.s.-israel relations hosted by the brookings institution. this is a little less than an hour and a half. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> great, well, welcomement thank you all for coming to this evenings dialogue. i'm tom friedman from the "new york times". i want to welcome you all here, and first of all again thank our terrific hosts for getting

whether they destroy israel in the process or not. indeed, the group practices this moral equivalent, where the hamas suicide government -- a hamas suicide bomber is no different, according to them, then the israelis to protect their citizens security. it must be noted, and dennis brown and i, we spoke outside their first event in south florida. they open up a chapter in south florida, and afterwards we found out that this leader of a group that actually got shut down for being involved with a terrorist organization, hamas. he heads an organization in north miami beach. they actually gave this guy around of applause at the meeting, which tells you what type of organization that is. so be aware, and we are here as well. [applause] >> first of all, joe, thank you for the event and think before providing a greatsegue -- a greatsegue. in 2006, after the disengagement from gaza, hamas took over gaza by force, they took over the government. there was a petition nt around by a group which was signed by 387 rabbis, urging president bush not t

and in haifa we go to daphne simponi she's a professor of modern middle east history at technion israel's institute of technology and another member of our cross talk team you know on the hunger for a cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want alex i'd like to go to you over the last sixty years or so we've seen the christian population of what is the legal borders of israel and the the west bank and gaza drop significantly there are different estimates there from one in twenty were there in the population was christian. at the advent of the israeli state and first some estimates now it's around two percent to take your numbers it's still going down dramatically what is the single most important reason why christe the christian population has diminished so much in palestine. think i'm sure it would like to be shows found themselves in go ahead alex. yes the economic and the political situation that the palestinian christians found themselves in is the main reason why they left the holy land and why they are leaving the. people leave their country and go to anot