correct, no issa. the source said staff briefed issa's staff for an hour and 15 minutes, and answered every question, 45 in all, until they stopped. so congressman, if issa really was interested in what was going on, wouldn't he have gone to the briefing? >> he -- not only would he have gone to the briefing, reverend, but he also would have today allowed the special council who is in charge of the hatch act to testify that there was absolutely no problems, but again, i mean, he didn't want to hear that. he didn't want the public to hear that. i think that's so sad because it goes against the credibility of our committee. and it goes against the things that we stand for. and i think it's just very unfortunate. >> jonathan, we have watched chairman issa seemingly just go after this president, go after attorney general holder. i mean, this looks blatantly political to many of us. >> yes, it does, because so far a lot of chairman issa's investigations have come up empty. and when i wrote about this yesterd

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issa's head.nk because i'm a republican i am, and i also think we should quote -- "the washington post" is a great paper but it's not an authority. it's a journal, it's a piece of journalism. back to answer your question, he ended the hearing from what i understand because mr. semus did not show up. he said hey, i ain't coming. i don't have anything to answer to, and again, i think what's interesting about this, and we can agree to disagree, sally, is that this president, one minute he's exerting separation of powers, and that's what mr. semus said the white house is separate from congress and from the judiciary. the next minute he uses executive order like a roll of toilet paper, executive order here, there. you can't have it both ways. >> sally, last word, then i have to go. >> first of all, let me apologize for calling you cheryl instead of crystal, my bad on that one. >> that's all right. >> the second thing i think darrell issa owes the american people apology. he's no longer a congressman's

issa didn't stop there.y email has been inwhenned up into a terrifying tale of an evil administration, one involving the anatomy of an octopus. >>> this is an ideologically driven administration that all of its tentacles are targeting against what they don't like and it's scary. an ideologically driven octopus that confirms instant messenger. scary or hilarious? probably both, much like darryl issa himself. that's all for now, i'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is up next. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" all of the way from new york. i'm michael dyson in for ed. let's get to work. ♪ ♪ >> let me talk about the spanish speakers, get your butts and turned around and point to the enemy. don't tell me they don't have better family structures than most of us. it is a culture that's illegally coming in here, not we the people. >> immigrants they love families. >> there is a potentially deadly outcome of having this influx. >> deport them. >> it has to do with d

issa. >> thank you. that's very kind. commissioner, i know that this is unprecedented to have a commissioner of the irs in front of this committee so often. and i appreciate the fact that you have been willing to be brief and participate even beyond our requests at times. as we continue to explore a number of questions, the timeline of the crash, the inconsistency of the probability of lost e-mails by multiple people within government, we appreciate that you were not in government. you were not doing this at the time. but as you can imagine, not just the internet, not just fox, but america is beginning to question how convenient so many e-mails of so many people at the heart of targeting conservative groups for their views, for their politics and for the fact that citizens united was objected to by the president, how many of them had loss of data and how much is not available to the american people. a cover-up is normally described as something that happens during an investigation around here, things go missing during the

you have issa and koskinen who are going to have a fiery exchange any moment from now.'re huddling together for about seven minutes before the start of this thing. what the heck is going on? >> i think what's going on here is similar to a court of law where you have the defense attorney and the prosecution going at it and then after they go out for a beer. with this they kind of were having a verbal beer if you will. cocktail seven minute hour beforehand. i think this is good so the american people can get a glimpse of the fact that there is a -- although there is interrogation and questioning, there is a certain amount of grandstanding, theatrics and certainly politics at play here. i think this exchange with great smiles between the two is proof of that. >> how do you know when you see those smiles that they're not just saying something totally different behind the smiles. >> this is more like pro wrestling. this is washington equivalent of a cage match. it's expected to get ugly before it gets any prettier. of course there's a bit of civility and darrell issa is pain

issa doesn't have proof, but, hey, he's just asking the question. he said this just last week. >> i believe lois lerner is hiding something. i believe the justice department, the irs, and the white house are interested in her succeeding in hiding what she's hiding. >> did congressman issa think we'd overlook the fact that he's spent a lot of time looking at the white house? nice try. here's how we see it. we gotcha. >>> middle class families can't wait for republicans in congress to do stuff. so sue me. as long as doing nothing, i'm not going to apologize for trying to do something. >> so sue me. that was president obama's message today to speaker boehner whose absurd lawsuit is now backfiring big time. because it's actually emboldening and energizing the president to speak out and take more executive alaskas. today, the president was back at it. >> my belief, think shared by most americans, that we can't wait for congress to actually get going on issues that are vital to the middle class. what i'm going to be continually pushing throughout this yea

joining me now, steven, a new letter from issa. bu does it move us forward? >> what it says is we now have as you point out a conflict between the testimony that irs commissioner gave about what the irs procedures are and whether lois lerner followed those procedures and lerner's own attorney says they wasn't aware of those procedures.

the chairman and i -- chairman issa have introduced a bill otherwise known as issa/connolly which thank god is being marked up in the senate. passed the house three times unanimously, and it is designed to try to upgrade our investments. we spent $82 million a year on i.t. investments. $20 million at least is inefficiently used for just maintenance of legacy systems. and that's got to be of enormous concern and if congress wants to do something about it, wouldn't it be a wise thing to try to make some prudent and targeted investments to we're not dealing with this kind of issue? >> it sure would and you'd have a lot of friends in both the cio and records management community if this gets passed. >> right. i heard you say earlier ha the federal records act requires print and save. >> and i misspoke. that language is actually not in the law but that's the guidance that many agencies are following. >> so based on that law, some guidance was issued that says at least for now print and save. i assume the reason for that guidance is because with antiquated systems we don't want to take the ri

representative issa and representative cannes. this is unseemly, embarrassing, and is not a proper way to run an investigation or to spend millions of dollars in taxpayer funds. as commissioner knows very well, when chairman can was informed about the crash of lois lerner's hard drive he quickly announced that he would be putting the first public hearing before the ways and means committee minutes later. he did not contact the commissioner before issuing the subpoena, and he did not hold any debate or vote. in response, chairman can just moved this hearing up several days. so he was the first one in front of the cameras. it did not seem to matter to either chairman that the irs provided numerous contemporaneous documents showing that ms. learner's computer crash was a technological problem that she and multiple i.t. officials attempted to remedy. those facts, apparently, were irrelevant. the goal was -- chairman can has now asked the inspector general to conduct an investigation into ms. learner's hard drive crash which he has agr

lou: darrell issa has done great work in investigating scandal after scandal after scandal. benghazi, "fast and furious", the list goes on and on. as well as unsuccessful in terms of reaching a revolution. the first secretary to be held in contempt of congress. both were held in contempt. but the effect of congressional action has been zero. and so it is inadequate. what i don't hear from congress even as speaker boehner prepares a lawsuit is a response that is innovative and inventive and is serious as the president's abuses of power. he is right now offering a crisis on our southern border and sustaining it and not resolving it. congress sits basically mute and flat-footed and seemingly unnerved. is this what we can expect of our congress and government? >> i go back to the rule of law in a way that the law prescribes. what i think is that special prosecutors are going to have to intervene. when the chief prosecutor ignores this and we hold him in contempt, and they say we can't get to that right now, maybe somewhere down the line we will do it, then these day okay, we can

chairman issa, chairman jordan alleged that prominent democrats, mr. cole, pressured the department of justice and the irs to single out conservative groups for potential prosecution. both chairman allege in a may 22nd letter to the attorney general that a hearing held on april -- in april of last year by a democratic senator, quote, led to the justice department reengaging with the irs on possible criminal enforcement relating to political speech by nonprofits end of quote. a press release accompanying the letter allege that department officials and lois l erner quote, zusz eed singling tax xemplt citizens at the urge of a democrat senator. general cole, i would like to give you an opportunity to address this allegation and did the department discuss singling out and prosecuting tax exempt applicants at the urging of a democratic senator? >> no. what happened in that regard was just trying to answer a question of whether we had a mechanism for whether applicants for tax exempt status, if they had lied on their application for that status, if there was

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chairman issa saying that koskinen's statements contrast lois lerner's.tatements about missing emails. this is not the first time. house lawyers have questioned koskinen's credibility. >> commissioner, are the president's hand picked man to restore trust and accountability at the irs. >> nobody believes you. >> the american people have no reason to trust the irs or frankly the administration on this issue. >> we have a problem with you and you you have a problem with maintaining your credibility. >> i don't believe you. >> i have a long career. that's the first time anybody has said that they do not believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> that's fine. >> it's hard to love the irs. >> but it should not be hard to trust the irs. former irs commissioner mark iverson under president bush 43. nice to see you, sir. >> nice to be with you, greta. >> all right. so now we have this letter from darrell issa who was the chairman of the house oversight asking the new commissioner because apparently the new commissioner testified that lois lerner kept the records, a ha

>> i think this is the real challenge for what darrell issa is doing. there are times you can subpoena someone and say this is what we are likely to find and he may know that but isn't making it public. but because he cannot point to wrongdoings makes it seem like another subpoena trying to drum something up rather than a tight investigation following specific pieces of information or wrongdoing that we know about. >> we are on standby officially. stev steven hays. >> that hearing is going to start at 10:00 and we will have more coverage. some of the most dangerous places in the country and the directors for the centers of disease control will talk about dangerous lapses at the bio terror labs and we are talking about exposure to anthrax and also the small pox they discovered. steve is what. what do we expect to hear? >> the cdc is coming under scrutiny looking into anthrax and a variety of other incide e cidences. dozens of workers were potentially exposed to anthrax when samples were sent to another lab without being sterilized. no one got sick but th

. ♪ >>> memo from darrell issa to john koskinen. want to try again?s after the irs commissioner's sworn testimony appeared to contradict lois lerner's at the house oversight committee's hearings on the agency's alleged targeting of conservative groups. now the chairman, california congressman, darrell issa, is offering koskinen a chance to amend his testimony. former press aide to kemp, now president of talk radio news service, and a fox news contributor. mark lieu sheeny is a chief investment strategist. and because we have ticket out of our normal studio this holiday weekend and ran out of space, joining us from the newsroom is steve moore, chief economist, fox news contributor. thanks for joining us. >> pleasure. >> kick off with you, steve, on this new irs revelation and what darrell issa is trying to do. do you think koskinen is going to bite? >> i don't know, but i will say this. there's no good resolution for the white house of this controversy right now. i mean, when it comes to the documents that were destroyed, either there was kind of compl

last night darrell issa calling the refusal to appear disturbing.e to megyn kelly. >> ultimately the american people need to know and they need confidence that their fox dollars are not being used to go after political, if you will, enemies of the president, the tea party group. we need to know they are not using the power of the presidency and the taxpayer to campaign for people in this upcoming election. the president asserted the most absurd claim that there was an inherent immunity from coming to congress for this political appoint iaee and he didn't show. eric: do you think the american people have confidence the administration is act above board? >> probably not. if you look at the poll numbers. if you talk about the irs scandal and the nsa, there is a lack of confidence. this particular issue with hill today solis. issa is suffering from diminishing returns and he's being paints as a partisan attack dog. i'm sceptical that it will give much help to his cause unless it just keeps it in the news like we are talk being it now. ache * you have a

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issa was given a full ten minutes prior to mr. hortzberg's line of questioning. it was represented by you that he would be -- >> it was not represented -- i give you an extra -- >> i'm reclaiming my time. >> i'm reclaiming my time. >> i think that the chair and let me go ahead mr. cole with a few questions. one, in your testimony, your verbal testimony here today, you say you have the utmost confidence in their investigation. do you stand by that? i mean, that's a correct quote of you. >> yes, i do. >> the entire team that's investigating. >> let me ask you, is it normal procedure when tigda investigates somebody to have a member of management in personal interrogatory discussions with other employees. why would you -- would you normally do that in your investigative mode to have members of management in the majority of those interviews? >> a lot of those take place before -- >> i want to put it in context, congressman? >> were you there when the interviews were happening back in 2011? how would you put it in context? >> i'm trying, if you'll let me explain, i th

lou: issa referring to statements that lerner kept hard copies of her e-mails. lerner's attorney denies she did that. either way koskinen should clear that up. we're coming right back. lou: the head of the terrorist group isil showing no fear in iraq. al-baghdadi delivers a blistering sermon for the cameras in mosul. general jack keane on what we should expect. friday night, buddy. you are gonna need a wingman. and with my cash back, you are money. forget him. my airline miles will take your game worldwide. what i'm really looking for is -- i got two words for you -- re-wards. ♪ there's got to be better cards than this. [ male announcer ] there's a better way with creditcards.com. compare hundreds of cards from all the major banks to find the one that's right for you. it's simple. search, compare, and apply at creditcards.com. first round's on me. you knso i get invitedpeople have saved with progressive, to quite a fewfamily g. heck, i saved dith here a fortune you make a mighty finesus, m'l. i'm nosaying mark's thrifty. let's just say, i savehim $519, and it ce

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issa is asking for a special prosecutor.ed on all the signs we're seeing right now, that is not going to happen, is it, michael. >> no i don't think so. i think people who care about this, want to see more movement on this, they have to hope there is more media attention to it. there is not at love media attention so far with a few of us excepted on what happened here the last several months. i think what could happen from these hearings with the federal judges is keeping the media ball rolling as it were. kind of taking politics out of it. bill: that would be an understatement, right? the other thing issa suggested, he pretty much concede, if you get significant movement in midterm elections that could move the ball forward. that seemed to suggest to me, he doesn't think much is going to happen before november or even beyond. >> i would agree with that. i'm a little skeptical that there could really be any sort of political undercurrents that could push this forward. it is just going to have to be i think a real slog to bri

darrell issa has not revealed all the information. comes off like a partisan witch-hunt by republicans against the administration with no evidence of the white house has been involved. >> great argument for special prosecutor. if you want, if it is partisan, doesn't trust issa, have a special prosecutor like iran-contra and 20 other investigations. >> he has not been fair. eric: what about the facts? put the partisanship aside. what about the facts? missing emails. apparent targeting. this does not go on in our country. >> maybe that is the solution. get it all on the table. you want to shake on that. >> we agree. eric: capture that. a photo of that. bottom line, even if there is a special prosecutor the media, jim, do you think the media is paying sufficient enough attention to this? >> no. but i think once a special prosecutor, or independent counsel starts working the process, the media weren't very eager to see the clinton investigation back in the '90s, once they got going they were covering it because it was news. eric: alan, a

lou: issa referring to statements that lerner kept hard copies of her e-mails.ner's attorney denies she did that. either way koskinen should clear that up. we're coming right back. lou: the head of the terrorist group isil showing no fear in iraq. al-baghdadi delivers a blistering sermon for the cameras in mosul. general jack keane on what we should expect. when you compare the top speed of dsl from the phone company with the top speed of comcast business internet... well, there's really no comparison. why pay more for less? call today for a low price on speeds up to 150mbps. and find out more about our two-year price guarantee. comcast business. built for business. ♪ lou: tsa's tightening security at foreign airports. any passengers flying in the united states now must power up their cell phones and mobile devices because of concerns they could be used as bombs. the new measure comes after recent intelligence reports suggest al-qaeda-linked terrorists in yemen and syria are plotting to blow up commercial aircraft. the state department can today announced it has

issa, and our ranking member, mr. cummings, for their work together with me on this bill and especially chairman issa for seeing to it that this bill got to the house floor today. mr. speaker, this bill makes important -- really quite minor changes but they are important to the district of columbia and to the federal agencies involved. they happen to be federal agencies that uniquely serve the district of columbia. i will not bore the house with the -- all of the elements of this bill because they will seem quite minor to the house, though as i indicate, they are of some considering importance to the agencies involved. for example, and i will use examples only, for the courts. it allows the courts to collect debts owed to the courts by employees such as debts for ss of damage to property and improper credit card payments. this is the kind of authority the court would now have. where there were erroneous payments to employees, those mployees would get a hearing before any such collection was charged to them. the court

>> ocs, i actually provided a letter to the committee that chairman issa referenced earlier. ocs is a system that exists in microsoft systems and allows people around the country to have a teleconference and you can put the same information on the screen and everybody looks at it at the same time and it's a way to have a telecommunications gathering and a meeting. it allows you also to have instant messaging capacity. not everybody uses it. i don't use it because i didn't know it existed. much like your cell phone, somebody if they see you're online can send you a text message and it's like calling you on the phone. like all text messages, it's a sometimes faster and more efficient way to communicate than picking up the phone and calling someone. >> despite the fact that the e-mail exchange occurred on april 9th, 2013, nearly two years after ms. learner's computer crashed, and more than one year after the inspector general's audit began, they said the e-mails was a, quote, smoking gun. from july 11th, the irs sent a letter to the committee explaining that ocs messages both th

i have told chairman issa, i've worked with republicans.gs with republicans, but this has been a very difficult situation. again, i told him that if you want to go far, you go with others. if you want to go fast, you go by yourself and basically he's been going fast and unfortunately, issuing subpoenas in many instances that he's made mistakes. he issued a subpoena to secretary kerry, didn't even call him to find out he'd be out of the country, sent a subpoena to an irs higher-up who wasn't there at the time the issues came up. >> congressman it seems you think the chairman is out of control. do you? >> i'm not saying that? i'll leave that all to you all to judge. all i'm saying is i want to be about the business of searching for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and helping the american people live better lives. that's what it's all about, holding government to the highest standard possible. that is our job. that's what i'm sworn to do and i'll continue to to that. >> i feel i hear you saying in committee meetings more

joining us now, a key leader in the investigation, darrell issa.irman, welcome back to "knocks ne"fox news sunday." >> good to be back. sorry to be talking about the same issues as we get dribed and drabbed. >> to that point, in a letter dated june 27th, quote, we are working to complete our production of ms. lerner's e-mails to the tax writing committee. that puts us smack up against a holiday. we've been told tens of thousands of pages of material were turned over. what can you tell us, if anything, about that? >> notice he said tax-writing committees. there's been a double standard. the tax-writing committees, they could have pushed one button, taken everything that came out of this surge, and handed it to tax-writing committees in hours, not over a year. in the case of my committee, they redact and check to make sure i'm not getting any of your personal tax information, especially if you were a conservative targeted by lois lerner. so there's an understanding of why there's a little delay for us. but the commissioner has had -- three commission

>> good morning, chairman issa, ranking member cummings, and members of the committee.hank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. i am a deputy of director in the overseas building operations in the u.s. department of state and have served in this position since october of 2013. the safety and security of the individuals who work for the u.s. government agencies overseas in creating and maintaining safe and secure facilities in all parts of the world is critical to the department. i know firsthand the reality of living in a high threat environment is part of a foreign mission. as a child, i lived in pakistan through periods of martial law and civil unrest. we lived on the grounds of the embassy returning to the united states months before it was stormed in november 1979. this experience had a profound impact on me. security has been obo's top priority since the 1998 bombings of the american embassies in salam and nairobi. obo executed a successful building program utilizing a standard embassy design. this work is now being enhanced by our excellence in dipl

they were, shall we say, more than annoyed that issa himself did not show up. for his part, issa says he saw this more as a meeting among staff members and what he really needs to do is question seamus directly. democrats though, including the top democratic on issa's own committee, are calling this ridiculous, false controversy and theater. michaela. >> theater, i like that. all right. michelle kosinski, thank you so much for that. let's give you a look at more of our headlines right now. >>> breaking overnight militants have taken control of the iraqi city of tikrit 100 miles northwest of baghdad after iraqi security forces liberated several government buildings. fighting broke out with militants believed to be from isis. they fired mortar shells, machine guns and driving iraqi forces out. this battle left more than 50 service men and 40 militants dead. >>> also breaking overnight, at least 18 suspected militants were killed by a u.s. drone strike in pakistan, according to intelligence sources. missiles were fired from the drone destroying a compound in north

>> i think it's entertaining that congressman issa and house republicans sent this letter. they've had a lot of time to come up with their own solution to pass legislation to fix the systemo the deferred action is not necessary. lou, i think you'd agree, we need people in washington, d.c. to stop playing politics with the issue and find a permanent solution. because whether it's kids on the border fleeing violence or something else down the line, it's going to be happening and happening until congress does its job. >> you mentioned two things there, let's go to the first, fleeing violence. there has been unrelenting violence in central america for decades. this is, most would say, in part at least ascribed to it, which part, in part the rhetoric of this president, talking about amnesty, talking about quote, unquote dreamers, talking about his executive actions, his executive orders, make it far easier for illegal immigrants to stay in the country and not be deport. what role do you think, if any, his rhetoric has played in the exodus from many children from central america?

darrell issa and many other lawmakers are urging president obama to do something to stop the influx of illegal immigrant. mike emanual has the latest from washington. >> reporter: tension is building in border communities and with those being asked to deal with the surge of illegal immigrants and children. maritta, california has been protesting bringing the immigrants in and that included stopping a bus that was filled with immigrants. there was a meeting to talk about the surge of minors and texas governor rick perry is going to testify and perry invited president obama to the border to see the problem for himself. >> those individuals concerned about the border the most important thing they can do is not offer public invitations but lend support to immigration reform. >> reporter: a group of 33 house lawmakers, including darrell issa, sent letters to him writing quote we call on you to end the programs that encourage young individuals to make themselves in peril and leave their homes and enter our country illegally. >> he has advertised to the world if you a child and you come to th

. >> it is believed he has handed over roles to mar washington an -- marwan issa. it's the tactics that may have made marwan issa a high value target. >> reporter: analysts say despite the power of hamas's military wing they don't have much control over the units. a lot of those units are operating on their own, freelancing, doing this on their own, but if an order does come down from the stop -- top to stop this, they will probably stop. >> just hours after the first wave of undocumented immigrants has been sent back to central america from new mexico, americans on both sides of the debate are out in force. right now, they are near a boys ranch near phoenix. anti immigration protesters are planning to block the buses to keep the kids out. >> i'm protesting the invasion of the united states by people from foreign countries. >> what about the kids on the bus? do you think you are going to be frightening them at all? >> i don't think so, after they will all been up through mexico, i don't think anything is going to frighten them. >> keaton thomas joins us by phone. h

chairman issa and chairman jordan have alleged that prominent democrats, mr. cole, pressured the department of justice and the irs singled out coservative groups for potential prosecution to the attorney general and the hearing that was held in april of last year i a democratic senator, "led to the justice department re-engaging with the irs on possible criminal enforcement related to political speech by nonprofits." the letter alleged the department officials and lois lerner, "discussed singling out and prosecuting tax exempt applicants at the urging of a democratic senator." general cole, i would like to give you an opportunity to address this allegation. did the department discuss singling out and prosecuting tax exempt applicants at the urging of a democratic senator? >> no, what happened in that regard was trying to answer a question of whether we had a mechanism for whether applicants for tax exempt status, if they had lied on their application for that status, if there was a mechanism for the irs to refer those types of false statements to the prosecuto

o'connor will join the ranks of dozens of other officials during chairman issa's tenure who have been hauled up here without a vote or without a debate as part of a partisan attempt to generate headlines with unsubstantiated allegations against the white house. regardless of how many times republicans claim the white house was behind the irs actions, there's still no evidence. none. that the white house was involved in any way with screening applicants for tax exempt status. no one of the 41 witnesses we have interviewed has identified any evidence of white house involvement or political motivation. not one. and the inspector general has also, by the way who was appointed by president bush, has also identified no evidence to support these baseless claims. issuing a subpoena to a white house lawyer does not change that fact. i sincerely hope that today's hearing will focus on the serious examination of the long standing and widespread challenges of retaining electronic records and constructive solutions. i look forward to the statements of our witnesses and with that, mr. chairman, i y

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. >> today we went to capitol hill to ask chairman issa about lois lerner. >> she did break laws. she did break regulations. and she was an active participant in targeting conservatives who she objected to for their political beliefs. she was active participant in trying to undo what she saw and the president saw as the damage of the citizens united supreme court decision. and i think that's at the heart of this. the president doesn't like what the supreme court says. she doesn't like it. and they think they are going to overturn it. >> all right. well, you have got what i consider deceitful effort to tell everyone to watch the emailings. it's in april of 2013 to subvert congress trying to get information about what's going on at the irs. its job. then you have got planting a question which is deceitful in itself trying to plant a question. but then here is what else you have. is that she was subsequent later in that day, after planting the question. she had a conference call with the media and she was asked why the irs chose to make an apology that kay. and her answer, according

darrell issa on the latest scandal you probably don't know, but you're going to want to learn about and fast. . neil: well, democrats are not necessarily big fans of darrell issa, the house oversight chair of pointing out corruption in abuse in favorite agencies. now set sights on the export-import bank. an organization that encourages foreign countries to buy from u.s. companies, and now there's been indications of abuse and the california republican is warring with conservatives and liberals. conservatives are saying get rid of the export-import bank and others saying no, no, go slow. congressman you are in the middle of this mess. how big is the incident. 40 million dollars of corruption, payoffs and the like, people see that and say that's a bad bank, shut it down, you say what? >> it's the only one of its kind, since the 1930s it has promoted and encouraged and financed export american products creating american jobs and american wealth. it's a pretty essential item to have, never controversial on renewing. but with four convictions, four people, three of whom have been dismissed t