j. d von cus, vice president things on going exactly how he wanted. know she has heard was from the screen saying the last 3 days, what we've heard from the us secretary of defense, pete, to have with assess saying that basically you create needs to look at the reality on the grounds. and essentially, there will be no going back to the board as free at 2014, and also the ukraine should be looking to be a member of nato in the future of resumes the lensky rejecting all of that. but looking incredibly tired, incredibly dejected at the press conference she gave a, well, we also been hearing from the gym in shawn, so all of shows all. so talking about the concessions he has the by what's happening in ukraine and whether essentially america is going to try and uh, and to, with negotiations directly with russia as it is basically pushing not just ukraine, but the europeans, the sidelines in may. what they see to the table, they say hi to him, this is do we need a reform of the debt break in order to invest in our security and defense. secondly, the bonus ta

germans, hans, that will not sold a volume is it less you cause how to find last will meeting with j d von cus present yesterday, which clearly would have been the most important meeting he had? and it's also a reminder that this is what the security conference is about in the end. at those 11 meetings taking place in the court who was here in the hotel and the surrounding buildings are very high level meetings and lots of the things that we never actually learn about. what is the tone if they can, you expect that the lot of minutes of landscape will try to strike at that podium of the one hand? there must be some, i don't want to use the word anger, but certainly some concern about the conversations that the trump administration is have is having with russia without ukraine in the picture. and at the same time, she needs washington. you must be incredibly frustrated. he learns about the phone call between trump and to see an officer. it took place and that says it already. he has gone from a position of the us administration that always made said that nothing would be decided over the heads o