jack ford is -- i'm sorry, mike ford is the chairman right now. so susan plays an important part. she was a sponsor of the uss gerald are forward. she is active with many of the programs that we had, exhibits that we do, they have been very supportive. the foundation has been very supportive of the library and the museum and the exhibit programs and the digitization as well. >> you touched about betty ford's -- obviously, the cancer experience. in the museum itself, is there -- do you talk about that, and obviously later, on the addiction connection, what kind of narrative do you have in the museum about betty ford? >> we were fortunate to have a first lady who was so open, as open as betty ford was, who was open to talking about health problems. as she said, i assume if i'm having these problems, others are having these problems also. they might benefit from that. so we renovated the core exhibits last in 2016, and increased betty ford's footprint in that, so we talk a great deal about her advocacy on behalf of women's rights, the rights amendment, the breast cancer there -- befo