jack mercer.here is a great stage direction mike wrote that says, "jack mercer (stealthily ambitious) " he says come see the show tonight, and when he's given the opportunity to audition for "saturday night live," this "saturday night live" type of show -- sheer coincidence, charlie -- >> rose: yeah. -- he more than anyone sees this brass ring and how it gleams. he will not let a person get in his way from reaching the brass ring. and no matter what it costs him in the court of public opinion, he's not going to stop. to him, his dream is the thing they're fright achieve and i don't think that dream is ever altered. he probably had that dream since he was eight years old. >> kind of a nice guy, trying to do right by his teammates. >> rose: when did being a nice guy end, though? >> well, yeah, exactly. because he still looks out for number one. >> rose: exactly. capitalism comes in. ome on you guys! apitalism, though bernie supporters would disagree. >> rose: democratic socialism. sometimes i say so