is that sam jackson? >> jackson: i think it is.out whether i'm liked or not. and i think i've found interesting ways of making bad guys, guys that people like. >> kroft: how do you do that? >> jackson: you try and keep people as human as you possibly can keep them, until they have to do the thing that they have to do. >> kroft: and that's your genre? >> jackson: i hope so. >> kroft: he grew up in chattanooga, tennessee, not far from the walnut street bridge. his grandmother told him stories about black people being lynched there. >> jackson: we used to ride our bicycles down this hill. third street. >> kroft: it was the totally segregated jim crow south. everywhere he went and everyone he knew was black-- his neighborhood, his schools, his teachers. and the experience still colors his life. >> jackson: so, i grew up in this world, which is the street world-- all these kids whose parents were domestics or worked in a-- what was known as the "chicken house," where they killed chickens and packaged chickens and stuff like that. there

documentary leaving neverland made new allegations of jackson's alleged sexual. abuse of children forcing us to consider the king of pop in a new light. who was this man who millions of fans still hail as the king of pop this exhibition portrays michael jackson through the work of more than forty contemporary artists they include some well known works like these portraits by andy warhol but should the singer still be given center stage in light of the most recent accusations of sexual abuse this exhibition is controversial. we have enough we have you know well it's an exhibition which explores michael jackson as a cultural phenomenon naturally jackson's personality is also included musical ultimately we're showing a media cultural history here but we do take the criticism seriously. there have been previous allegations of child sexual abuse by michael jackson in two thousand and five he faced charges in court but now a new documentary tells the story of two men who allege they were molested by the late pop star jackson died in two thousand and nine so the exhibit

amy berman jackson can do that. i don't think we've seen from her comments today whether she intends to. i did think it was interesting that ellis' sentence last week would not factor into her decision. at the same time, we wouldn't necessarily expect her to come out and say i'm going to right the wrong that happened last week in virginia. we'll see, she has been tough on manafort so far. i think that if the sentence is longer than what t.s. ellis gave, despite the fact the ceiling is lower in this case, i think that would send a pretty strong signal. >> are we on pardon watch after this? >> certainly always. this is a question the white house has been asked repeatedly. they've never ruled it out. obviously there was not just the fact that paul manafort had lied to investigators, but the fact that his legal team continued to brief the president's legal team while all that was playing out. that was a hugely unusual set of circumstances. that led to the many conclusions about whether paul manafort was still counting o

considered by millions to be the king of pop a new exhibition here in germany looks at how michael jackson has been portrayed over the years by more than forty artists this in the midst of a firestorm over accusations of abuse. good to have you with us european union leaders have agreed to delay the break that process postponing it beyond march twenty ninth the original exit date but only if parliament approved the withdrawal deal next week if it does not the e.u. will back a shorter delay here's the timeline the next day to bear in. mind is march twenty sixth that's the most likely date for a vote in the british parliament to approve the deal or are rejected again a deal they've already rejected twice if lawmakers do reject it again britain will likely crash out of the e.u. on april twelfth but it can also use that time to seek an alternative solution with the european union whatever that might be if the british parliament approves the deal however the timeline for an orderly brags that extends to may twenty second area. well at that summit in brussels. the union jack at the european coun

michael jackson through the work of more than forty contemporary artists among them some very famous pictures like those of any warhol but should the singing still be given center stage in light of the most recent accusations of abuse the exhibition is controversy or. so we have developed an exhibition which explores michael jackson as a cultural phenomenon naturally jackson's personality is also included in that ultimately we're showing a media cultural history here but we take the criticism seriously there have been previous allegations of child abuse by michael jackson in two thousand and five he faced charges in court but now a new documentary film has been released telling the story of two men who allege that were abused by the late pop star jackson died in two thousand and nine that's why the exhibition and bone has been slightly modified as paul mccartney sculpture portraying jackson and his pet chimpanzee for example could now be seen differently as he said on harmony three months it's unsettling to see how the michael jackson figure has a monkey sitting on his lap there's a

allen new exhibit here in germany looks at the way michael jackson has been portrayed over the years by more than forty artists on the opening comes amid fresh accusations of sexual abuse a kid against the man still considered the king of pop by millions around the world . thank you so much for your comp. everyone european union leaders have agreed to delay the brags that promises to sporting it's beyond march twenty ninth but that is only if parliament approved that we're drawl deal next week if it does not you will back a shorter delay let's take a look now at the timeline the next day to bear in mind is march twenty sixth right here because that's the most likely day for a vote to take place in the british parliament to approve the deal which as you might recall they've already rejected twice if lawmakers rejected again britain will likely crash out of the e.u. on mark this stage in your calendars april twelfth but the u.k. can also use that time to find alternative solution with the european union if the british parliament to stay with me approves the deal however the deadline fo

we have developed an exhibit which explores michael jackson as a cultural phenomenon naturally jackson's personality is also included in that ultimately we're showing a media cultural history here but we take the criticism seriously there have been previous allegations of child abuse by michael jackson in two thousand and five he faced charges in court but now a new documentary film has been released telling the story of two men who allege they were abused by the late pop star jackson died in two thousand and nine that's why the exhibition and bone has been slightly modified. mccarthy sculpture patrolling jackson and his pet chimpanzee for example could now be seen differently . as he said one harm the three month see it's unsettling to see how the michael jackson figure has a monkey sitting on his lap there's a certain link with the new allegations so perhaps it could be regarded differently now for him the exhibition organizers definitely did not want to put jackson on a pedestal but they do want to show the huge influence the artist had on an entire generation of fans through his musi

estate, four years after jackson's death.the lawsuits dismissed as being brought too late. they're appealing. >> one of the problems that happens in these cases, if there is a statute of limitations on child sexual abuse, it is something that i have never understood, because there is no statute of limitations on murder. and when you are sexually abusing a child, you have killed their childhood. >> reporter: shri pushi family is pushing back. >> i know my broerksther, makin kids happy. >> and he was never abusive with children. >> never. >> never in a sexual way. >> never in a sexual way. >> reporter: and on the same night as the documentary debuted, the estate released one of his concerts on youtube. the estate is suing hbo for $1 million. they call it a one-sided marathon of unvetted propaganda to shamelessly innocent man. michael jackson will always be 100% inch since of all these allegation. >> these statements about me are totally false. >> you have michael jackson saying his side of the story, giving his denials. >> repo

david jackson was dead. not missing.nd the way he had been hidden made it perfectly clear he had been murdered all those years ago. most likely before his friends or family even noticed he was gone. which have put a final period on his mother's lingering hope for his return. and apparently an ex-wife's what ifs. were you seriously thinking, you know, maybe some day i'll get back together with him? >> when it's your first love, you're always think, you know, wow, you know, could it work? what if? >> strange how things turn out. barbara had moved back to florida, remarried, again, had a daughter, took a job at walmart, but still held a candle for david, even as he lay under the ground practically next door to the very walmart where she worked. what did that do to you? >> it's an eerie feeling. it's, you know, that he was in that area, that i didn't even know about. >> such an odd coincidence. too odd, maybe? time for a chat. detective velasquez called barbara, got herself invited over to barbara's house. barbara seemed to

should not be talking about michael jackson's music michael jackson's music was created through decades of also a lot of suffering every time michael jackson song comes on i know for myself i'm going to think differently about it. thanks for joining us on the program this hour. the president has revoked an obama rule requiring u.s. intelligence to publicly report the number of civilians killed in drone strikes as the story. a new executive order from the white house is reducing the amount of transparency when it comes to u.s. drone strikes now the executive order basically roof vokes regulations made by the obama administration in twenty sixteen essentially the director of national intelligence will no longer be required to release information regarding un classified u.s. strikes and the non civilian deaths that are associated with them and that would be in areas outside of active hostility the pentagon will still have an obligation to report on civilian casualties in compliance with the national defense authorization act of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen that was very clear in tru

should not be talking about michael jackson's music michael jackson's music was created through decades of also a lot of suffering every time a michael jackson song comes on i know for myself i'm going to think differently about. a very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at our th here in moscow thanks for joining us this hour. president donald trump has issued an executive order giving u.s. intelligence agencies the right to withhold information on civilian deaths from the public the order resends and obama era mandate that obliges them to report annually on noncombatant deaths incurred during drone strike operations and has more on the story. a new executive order from the white house is reducing the amount of transparency when it comes to u.s. drone strikes the pentagon will still have an obligation to report on civilian casualties in compliance with the national defense authorization act of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen that was very clear in trump's executive order now this is certainly not the first time that donald trump has indicated frustration with the level

should not be talking about michael jackson's music michael jackson's music was created for decades of also a lot of suffering every time michael jackson song comes on i know for myself i'm going to think differently about. a very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at our to h.q. in moscow thanks for joining us this hour a suspected cyber attack on a british institute that seeks to counter russian just information is now being investigated by the u.k.'s national crime agency they suspect is usual russian intelligence agency the g.r.u. artes and associates has more on the story. here in the u.k. the now infamous highly likely formula pops back into the spotlight as reports circulate citing white hole sources claiming that russia's military intelligence service the g.r.u. had been according to them the one to hack and up until recently not very well known british beast institute for state craft now we understand that now that's been announced that the national crime agency here in the case carrying out an investigation into the cyber attack of this think tank and at the same

and how the jackson family is now responding tonight. here's abc's linsey davis now. >> reporter: nearly a decade after his death, renewed debate and scrutiny tonight in the wake of the explosive hbo documentary "leaving neverland," where two men claim they were sexually abused by michael jackson for years, starting when they were just 7 and 10 years old. >> once the abuse started, within that first week, you know, every night that i was with him, there was abuse. >> reporter: in death, as in life, michael jackson still dogged by allegations of sexual abuse. this time, by two men who once testified on his behalf, saying that he never molested or touched them inappropriately. jackson was acquitted in 2005 of child molestation charges of another child. >> michael told me that i had to lie. and that's what i did. i lied. >> reporter: james safechuck, now 41, says he first met jackson while shooting this soda commercial. and choreographer wade robson, who is now 36, says that he met him after winning a dance competition. both detail quite ex

should not be talking about michael jackson's music michael jackson's music was created through decades of also a lot of suffering every time michael jackson song comes on i know for myself i'm going to think differently about it. a very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at r.t. h.q. in moscow thanks for joining us this hour a suspected cyber attack on a british institute that seeks to counter russian descent from ation is now being investigated by the u.k.'s national crime agency the suspect as usual the russian intelligence agency of the g.r.u. life now to london and our correspondent there and it's just so and to see what more do we know about this story so far. well jacqueline it seems that here in the u.k. very highly likely formula is back in the spotlight as reports circulate citing white hole sources that it is quote highly likely that russia's military intelligence or the g.r.u. hacked the not so well known until recently british based institute for state craft now we now know that the national crime agency is investigating a cyber attack into this think tank and

about michael jackson, all the coverage of michael jackson, was part of that.ven one of the mothers admits that jackson helped them buy a house. and that in hindsight it looks terrible and looks like they were somehow being bought off. >> yeah. the parents are basically complicit in all this. they were overwhelmed by the money and the fame. safechuck and his mother, they were the first guests ever invited to neverland, which safechuck said jackson told him he'd actually bought the ranch especially for him when he was a kid. >> it is -- one of the most interesting things is even now when you see the interviews with the parents and to an extent with the kids, you know, it was such a dizzying experience. here was one of the most famous people in the world, a beloved entertainer, who had brought them into their confidence, brought them into his circle. and just the idea, and it's word that most people have used, that there was this seduction. a seduction of the boys and a seduction of their families just in terms of what they were exposed to in this sort of magical

both gave sworn statements jackson did not molest them and the family denies jackson mo lested anybodynd is suing for $180 million. they say it's one sided and violates a non-disparagement in the 1980s when it aired a jackson concert. the first sentence of the lawsuit says, quote, michael jackson is incident. period. michael's brother marlin said this to cnn. >> the makers of this film. they were not interested in trying to finding the evidence. they were cooperating with this documentary. we were available, others were available. i think you would want to get another side of the story. >> hbo released a statement saying, quote, despite the desperate lengths, hbo will move forward with the airing. to allow everyone to assess the film and the claims in it for themselves. joining seems to me dianne diamond, author of "be careful who you love." you have owned this story, 1993, you are the one that brought us the news of the jordan chandler lawsuit. >> right. >> you know these two. how surprised are you by these new revelations? >> not at all. not at all. i mean, i don't say that with any

about michael jackson and all the coverage of michael jackson was part of that.ean, even one of the mothers admits that jackson helped them buy a house, and that in hindsight looks terrible and makes them look somehow they were being bought off. >> the parents are basically complised compl complicit in all of this. they were about the first guests ever invited to neverland, which jackson told them he'd actually bought the ranch especially for them when he was a kid. >> even now when you see the interviews with the parents and to an extent with the kids, you know, it was such a dizzying experience. i mean here was one of the most famous people in the world, a beloved entertainer who had brought them into the their confidence, brought them into his circle. and just the idea, and this is the word that most people have used, this is seduction. a seduction of the boys and of their families just in terms of what they were exposed to in this sort of magical landscape he laid out for them. >> this is the thing about jackson's musewreck, it just now seems so tainted. i me

we have read about an exhibition which explores michael jackson as a cultural phenomenon naturally jackson's personality is also included musical ultimately we're showing a media cultural history here but we do take the criticism seriously. there have been previous allegations of child sexual abuse by michael jackson in two thousand and five he faced charges in court but now a new documentary tells the story of two men who allege they were molested by the late pop star jackson died in two thousand and nine so the exhibition and ban has been slightly modified and the gallery is offering additional information artist paul mccarthy sculpture portraying jackson and his pet chimpanzee now appears in a somewhat different light as he said really it is a little unsettling to see how the michael jackson figure has a monkey sitting on his lap there is a relationship depicted and in light of the new allegations this could be seen in a new way. the exhibition organizers did not want to put jackson on a pedestal but they do want to show the huge influence the artist had on an entire generation of fans th

jackson always denied any inappropriate behavior with children.abhe relationships wit jackson including graphic allegations of abuse. a warning, viewers may find those details very disturbing. >> i wanted to look like him. i had my hair permed to look like him. all of that stuff. >> i wasn't necessarily a big fan and then when i got the commercial. >> the pepsi commercial. >> yeah, the pepsi commercial. that's my first time seeing him. i was pretty excited. it was other worldly i guess. >> they discuss the intimate details of their relationships with michael jackson. >> everybody wanted to meet michael or be with michael. >> in the upcoming hbo documentary leaving neverland. that's the name of jackson's ranch where robson claims 7 years of sexual abuse with the world famous performer began. >> it was the most magical thing i had ever seen and that first night michael just kind of took us on a little bit of a tour and he said to me and my sister, you can stay in one of the guest rooms or you can stay in here with me if you want. and my reaction was of course i want to stay with you. we h

"michael jackson... es inocente. punto.... dijeron los herederos en la demanda...ras...esta examina las afirmaciones de wade robson y james safe chuck , dos hombres, quienes acusan a "michael jackson" de cometer abusos sexuales contra ellos cuando eran niqos! siete y diez aqos de edad, respectivamente.a safechuck, quien conocio a jackson cuando protagonizo un anuncio de pepsi en 1986, cuenta que el cantante los llevo a el y a su familia de gira y fue alli cuando, con solo 10 aqos, su relacion se volvio sexual... familia del niqo establecio un fuerte vinculo con el cantante y pasaron vacaciones juntos... segun robson, fue en uno de esos viajes cuando jackson convencio a su madre para quedarse a solas con el gran caqon. fue ahi cuando supuestamente empezo el abuso...las dos supuestas victimas coinciden en que el cantante practicaba simulacros pr si alguna vez eran sorprendidos por una tercera persona... escuchemos lo que dijo robson reportera: estaremos pendientes de esta segunda parte que saldrÁ hoy. pamela: cuatro horas de fuertes declaraciones. borja: estÁbamos co

also tonight a major michael jackson exhibition opens in germany amid renewed allegations of the pops i was a paedophile is of course raises difficult questions about how to handle his legacy the probably won't be another figure. someone who achieved such worldwide recognition that meant so many different things to so many different people the ongoing questions about his life and probably the realities we may never know we may never know the truth. so we'll start the day in the united kingdom where the prime minister has to come up with a way to save her deal after european union leaders agree to delay the date of britain's withdrawal from the block to beyond next friday if there is a make can persuade parliament to approve a deal that. he will leave in two months on the twenty second of may that's ahead of european parliament elections. rejects a plan for shell has to come up with an alternative all the country crashes out on the twelfth of april that's just three weeks away but while britain struggles to give up its membership other countries are reveling in the fact that they never

kelly and michael jackson have actually engaged in. and we're not ok with that i think that's perfectly fine it's a scary area if we all are judge him for ourselves with very limited facts with facts that we don't really quite cross-examine with actual evidence or other than you know interviews and documentaries that. those sergeants you mentioned that show a lot of evidence. while it's in evidence that it's not been again cross-examined in the court of law it's irrefutable we should not be talking about michael jackson's music michael jackson's music was created through decades of also a lot of suffering but actually i think maybe the real lesson in all of this is that you know every time michael jackson song comes on i know for myself i'm going to think differently about it i mean i'm not going to say i'm never going to dance to a michael jackson song again because you know maybe it'll play at a wedding or vomits on i might start dancing but at the same token i said i am never going to think about michael jackson in the way i used to

jackson's music michael jackson's music was created through decades of also a lot of suffering but actually i think maybe the real lesson in all of this is that you know every time a michael jackson song comes on i know for myself i'm going to think differently about it i mean i'm not going to say i'm never going to dance to a michael jackson song again because you know maybe it'll play at a wedding or vomits but i might start dancing but at the same token i said i am never going to think about michael jackson in the way i used to and maybe that's the real lesson so let me ask you this when you look at a picasso painting or you read a hemingway book or or you've been looking to start to that was created during the renaissance period where like you know the catholic church was you know torturing and killing people in the name of god are we not able to separate the our that was created the best moments of these artists from the actual person who was a human being. some of them admitted those fair good argument but i think also i think we're entering. a new era where i think people that engage

we are live on the campus of jackson state university in jackson, mississippi. a lawyer from madison, 134i7. >> hi, senator. you have proposed breaking up the big tech companies. is it really possible to -- without stifling innovation? >> good question, marcy. but here's my point. if you break them up, you actually need less regulation because here's how this works right now. think about the big tech companies, amazon, facebook, google, right? here's what they do. they run a platform, okay, where people come -- let's just stick with amazon. that's where you go to check out 63 coffee makers, all of which can be delivered in 24 hours, right? think about this just so you get an idea of how vast they are right now in our economy. walmart is about 9% of all physical retail sales in america. amazon, 49% of all online, so this is a big deal. if you want to sell onto, you're a little guy, you're trying to get your business started, you're an entrepreneur, you got to be there. so amazon runs this platform. you come to the platform. all sounds great. but amazon also is co

you look back at michael jackson's live.ng himself with children everywhere he went. and when you look at the way that people who do abuse children i'm just observing all of this as we watch this documentary and i listen to you it was like grooming on steroids at neverland. candy, free candy, animals, your birthday party. the sleepover parties. you know, it is so hard to not -- to discount their stories given everything that we have all seen over the years. >> a men to everything you just said, martha. did i spend quite a bit of time with michael jackson in neverland and also when he was in exile in the days leading up to that trial. he was frightened. he was paranoid he didn't know who to trust. he had just been burned by the british journalist who ingratiated himself with michael eight months and devastated him with an expose i thought was grotesquely unfair. just because michael jackson was weird and never land was this creation, this disneyland-like creation doesn't make him a molester. i don't know. all i know is that r

his family or people who might have supported jackson's point of view.ery much from the point of view of the men, but we're in this moment now where we're trying to focus on the stories of people who say they've been victimized particularly by powerful people. and this documentary is a powerful account of two people who have come to regard how they were treated by michael jackson very differently as adults than how they felt when they were children, and they want to tell that story, and this documentary does that well. >> it's wrapped up in a budge of things happening right now. one is there's so much at stake, michael jackson's family trying to protect his legacy. the estate billboard says it's brought in $2 billion since 2009, but unlike when he went to trial, unlike in the immediate aftermath of when he died as you rightfully say, we are now in the me too era. does that change the way we look at michael jackson? >> i think without a doubt. there's a sense you think about r kelly has another music star whose past actions are being re-evaluated in a mod

dn't make allegations about the michael jackson estate in my film. they're barely mentioned.idn't say they moleschd dren so why would i go to them for comment? they don't know anything of any use about what happened behind a locked bedroom door between wade robson at age 7 and michael jackson. what the jackson family doadmit is michael spent many, many nights in bed in the company of little boys. you know, they've never really disputed that. and, so, they've not disputed that wade and jam had long acquaintances or friendships, if u like, with michael, so there are many, many facts about this story that are easily corroborated, but the central facts is the question of what happened behind those closed doors, that's the central the question of the fi and i don't think that the family of the estate have anything usefu to say about that, and they also have a massive interest and a big inancial veted interest in trying to cover it up, so they certainly weren'credible or, you know, impartial witnesses in the story. >> woodruff: so much of the reason for all this attention to the fi

jackson.do you see this documentary affecting the other alleged accusers who told their stories in the past and were not believed? >> of michael jackson? >> yeah. >> well, that's a great question, too. i would love to hear from, you know, the aveisos, for instance, the objects of that 2003 trial, where michael jackson was acquitted, mostly for all kinds of reasons. that trial was a little bit of a fiasco. >> will you remind our viewers about the impact that michael jackson had on society and explain the difference that this brings compared to the charges against bill cosby and harvey weinstein? >> okay. i mean, it's michael jackson. i mean, nobody -- woody allen, r. kelly, harvey weinstein, you know, bill cosby, i mean, you know, any one of these men, matt lauer, nobody has had the sort of cultural impact that michael jackson has had. michael jackson is responsible for, like, i would say 30% of the music that we've gotten since michael jackson. is. >> >> so how do you separate the man accused

really flummox jackson. he obviously would not know what was happening. and he would be so embarrassed that he would be humiliated and he would be shown up. and that would be the end of it. now, as i say with explaining these historical stories, context is necessary. this was at a moment when jackson was holding the union together by main force. south carolina was threatening to secede from the union over a tariff that it didn't like. and jackson was asserting, no, the union is central. the union must hold. so this is the background. everybody was waiting what the -- everybody is waiting to hear what the president was going to say. this became a fairly common thing for presidents and other distinguished members of the government -- the marshall plan, for example was announced in a , harvard commencement address. so jackson is going to give this pronouncement on the current state and he's going to deal with this attempt by the harvard faculty to embarrass him. so jackson stands up. and he says, e pleuribis oo