and that's certainly not what you're hearing from the republican delegation. >> jacob soboroff on theund there in el paso for us. jacob, thank you very much. joining me now sticking in el paso is the el paso county commissioner, david stout. mr. stout, thank you for come on. we all here have been grieving with your community over the last few days. you are somebody that thought the president shouldn't come. he's there now. what role do you want him to play now that he's there? >> you know, i'm not sure if he's going to say much to the public or, you know, i'm not sure what he's going to do. i've heard that he is possibly going to go to the university medical center, which is a county hospital. i think that this is just a big political dog and pony show. it's just going to be a distraction, you know. but it would be nice for him to apologize to this community, i think, first off, for all of the negative things that he has said about folks that live in this community and folks that look like the people that live in this community. >> the anger that you and others in the community have a

we're back with katy tur and jacob soboroff from msnbc.rruption. >> it's exciting. >> sounds really fun, right? >> stephen: it is, unfortunately, i'm sure you've got a lot to talk about. ( laughter ) how bad is the swamp? donald trump ran on, you know-- >> draining it. >> stephen: (as trump) "drain the swamp." it is, how bad is it? what level are we at? are we like at golden age corruption? is this nigeria? what is washington like right now? ( laughter ) >> it is full of alligators and every time you walk down the street, you're getting bitten on the ankles and maybe the arms. >> on the arms? >> well, it's very-- it a lot. they come up and they bite you. >> that's fair. >> stephen: what are the more redolent examples of how-- >> money. money. there's so much money in politics. the most money spent on a 2018-- on a midterm was 2018. >> about $6 billion. go ahead, sorry. >> stephen: so, it's not necessarily people lining their pockets with government contracts. it's literally sort of the political industrial complex making money off the fact

but just think about how he performed in these moments when he was president. >> my colleague jacob soboroff is joined by beto o'rouke. no one made a stronger, more blunt case about donald trump than your guest, jacob. >> and nicolle wallace, nobody has made a stronger or blunt case about donald trump than you have. congressman, right now the president is on the tarmac greeting the members of the texas delegation. he's on el paso's soil. what goes through your head hearing that? >> i think this is the answer to that. you have all of these beautiful people from el paso and also from suarez,er mexico city, who are coming together in the wake of this horrific lost of life. this terrorism that was in part inspired by president trump in his warnings of invasions and infestations, his demonization of this community, immigrants as rapists and criminals. there's a very real consequence. it doesn't just offends us. it hurts us and kills us. this community is coming together, focusing on one another, wishing the president would not come but focused on el paso. >> as you said the reality, fact of the m

jacob soboroff is on the ground for us there in el paso where 22 people were killed. what's the seen there ahead of the president's visit to texas? >> reporter: you know what, craig? i was at el dorado high school this morning for a memorial and remembrance for the 22 people killed at this walmart and it was remarkably positive and uplifting. surprising, really, given the long history of the president's, in my estimation, disrespectful posture towards the residents of el paso. the way he was long characterized this city as dangerous is just completely factually incorrect. it's one of the safest big cities in america and we should remind people that the murderer of the alleged white supremacist that came to this walmart drove hundreds of miles to come here to one of the safest cities in the country in order to carry out this terrorist attack. and beto o'rourke, the candidate for the presidency of the united states and the former congressman that represents part of this area was there this morning. the president, of course, called out congressman o'rourke this morning on

happened here in gilroy separate and apart from all of that does a disservice to everybody here. >> jacob soboroff, msnbc correspondent for us in gilroy, california. jacob, thank you for being there and thank you for joining us tonight. i really appreciate you. >>> joining us tonight, george will, editor of the "washington post." george, your latest title is "trump doesn't just pollute the social environment with hate, he is the environment. it is not i am plausible to believe that trump's years of sulfurous rhetoric, never mind his monday morning reading, seemingly for the first time, of words the teleprompter told him to recite can provoke behaviors from susceptible individuals, such as the alleged el paso shooter, his republican groupies, meanwhile, are complicit. >> it's so hard to sort out violence from social promptings, but this president is far too ubiquitous in american life. this president doesn't just shape the social atmosphere, he becomes the social atmosphere, especially when people are so struck by what he writes. politicians are so wanton to say things. the president is an entertai

. >> joining me now from el paso is jacob soboroff and stephanie ple palencia. >> latino makes up up -- surprisingly positive is the way people are responding here in the wake of the shooting. i see calls for unity and a great spirit of togetherness. i was at el dorado high school this moment where there was a vigil, a moment of remembrance and a moment of silence for each and everyone at this walmart right here behind me. don't forget, i can see mexico from where i am standing right now. i talked to an immigration attorney who i got to know separation at the border. donald trump separated the first group of people systematically right here in el paso. given that and this person i spoke with remains focus at the task at hands and recovering what's happening here and dealing with the ongoing crisis that is created and exacerbated. i don't think there is a whole lot of interests based on the conversation i had and spending a lot of time focusing on the president of the united states who has had a long time relationship with the residence of the city. >> stephanie, you pointed out that

happened here in gilroy separate and apart from all of that does a disservice to everybody here. >> jacob soboroff in gilroy, california. jacob, thank you for being there and thank you for joining us tonightment tonight. i really appreciate you. >>> joining us tonight, george will, "washington post." george, your latest title is "trump doesn't just pollute the social environment with hate, he is the environment. it is not i am plausible to believe that trump's years of sulphurous rhetoric, never mind his monday morning reading, seemingly for the first time, of words the teleprompter told him to recite can provoke behaviors from susceptible individuals, such as the alleged el paso shooter, his republican group he groupies, meanwhile, are complicit. >> it's so hard to sort out violence from social promptings, but this president is far too ubiquitous in american life. this president doesn't just shape the social atmosphere, he becomes the social atmosphere, especially when people are so struck by what he writes. politicians are so wanton to say things. the president is an entertainer. we lose sight o

he is in large part to blame for what has taken place. >>> joining me now is jacob soboroff in el paso brewster in dayton. jacob, let me go to you first. we played a sound bite about the president's tweet which said, quote, benny, phony name to indicate hispanic heritage, o'rourke, is now even more embarrassed by polling at 1% in the democratic primary should respect the victims and law enforcement and be quiet. what did the candidate have to say to you about that tweet? >> reporter: i asked him, ayman, why he wanted to respond to the president today when much of what i've seen on the ground in el paso, not just over the course of today at a remembrance and memorial, but throughout my time covering immigration here has been so positive, so different from the way that the president characterizes life in this city, one of the safest cities in america. former congressman o'rourke said essentially he feels like he's standing up for this city, standing up for a president who has used racist and hateful rhetoric about latinos throughout the course of his presidency, echoed by the shooter who

. >> reporter: kelly o'donnell at the white house and jacob soboroff who is in el paso where contender beto o'rourke is at the high school for a morning of remembran remembrance. jacob, let's start there. beto's hometown among the candidates. he's had searing criticism. those two, beto o'rourke and donald trump, have had an escalating war of words. what can you tell us? >> reporter: obviously back and forth on social media today we've seen beto o'rourke and president trump go after each other, and it almost seems so inappropriate even to focus on that and talk about it, quite frankly. this is yet another painful day on the ground for the residents of what i think is one of the greatest cities in the united states of america, el paso. and it is particularly painful, ironically, strangely, because the president of the united states is coming to this city today in the wake of this white nationalist terror attack. imagine saying that at any other time, that there is additional pain because the president of the united states of america is going to come to a city in the wake of tens, dozens

joining me now the cohost of "american swamp" msnbc's jacob soboroff.h something, a part of an interview katy did with republican congressman ken buck of colorado. let's take a look. >> sure. >> there is very little time to read bills, to analyze legislation, to develop coalitions with fellow members because there is so much pressure to raise money. >> is this a partisan thing? >> both sides do it. >> and raising money isn't just for re-elections. it's also the key to gaining power within the parties. >> how do you get a committee chairmanship? >> you have to pay a certain amount of money. when we were in power to be a chair of an a committee, ways and means, appropriations, rules, you had to raise $1.2 million for the republican party. a b committee i think it was $825,000. >> hum. the numbers check out. for example on the last congress kevin brady the former chair of the house ways and means committee raised over $1.8 million for house republicans. and top democrats on several of the most powerful congressional committees each gave their party at leas

me from los angeles, msnbc correspondent and host of "american swamp," co-host with katy tur, jacob soboroff. so jacob, i just want to remind folks what these kids have been dealing with. the court found that they weren't getting sufficient meals, they had no access to clean drinking water, they experienced unsanitary conditions in the holding cells and bathrooms, lacked clean bedding and hygiene products, endured sleep deprivation as a result of cold temperatures, overcrowding, lack of proper bedding, constant lighting, not to mention flu and lice outbreaks that have been reported by visiting lawyers. you have been covering this throughout. i guess the question a lot of viewers are having is the same question that the circuit judge had -- what was the government's argument here? >> yeah, i mean, honestly, i don't -- i don't -- morally, i don't know. i don't have an answer to that. but just by pure argument that they made that you don't need a toothbrush to be safe and sanitary, it's okay to sleep on a concrete floor to be safe and sanitary -- i don't know anybody that would say that being l

jacob soboroff is in gilroy, california. cal perry is in tapachula, mexico. our justice correspondent, pete williams, is in our washington, d.c., newsroom. and we'll hear from congressman veronica escobar in el paso, as well. and from democratic senator chris murphy, a leading voice on gun reform in this country. >> joining us now from el paso is telemundo anchor and host of "nbc nightly news" saturday jose diaz balart. jose, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i spoke to georgina perez, a member of the texas board of education from el paso earlier today in the 4:00 p.m. hour. i asked her what she needed from the country right now and she said what she needed from the country was for people to stop talking about immigrants as criminals. what are you hearing in that community tonight? >> reporter: i think -- you know what, we're sick and tired of being labeled anything but patriotic americans. people who are here to make this country better. we're here so that this country can progress. so that our children have a better life. that's what we want to he

it's friday night, and msnbc correspondent jacob soboroff is right here on the last word.the finale? >> in my home library here, ari, it's good to see you on this friday night. we found that donald trump did not follow through with infrastructure week. so we're going to have one of our own as a matter of fact. he said he's the best builder. politicians on both sides of the aisle obviously have been talking about how critical this all is for quite some time, but it never gets done. at the end of the day, what we found is that surprise, surprise, politicians put themselves and their political fortunes ahead of the american people, who really desperately need infrastructure. so this is a bit of a spoiler alert, but we end the episode in los angeles, my hometown, and katy's hometown. this is what we came up with. take a look at this. >> we're driving under 5 miles an hour on an celebrate highwin highway. literally every member of congress should have to sit in bumper to bumper traffic as punishment. >> i think that would be defined as cruel and unusual punishment. we're crawli

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beto o'rouke made that accusation of donald trump during her hour in an interview with jacob soboroff. i'm positive it might change the contours of this election. do you think it's that dramatic? i haven't heard a contrast like that in a presidential contest ever. >> here's the thing, nicolle, in a few days we're about to hit the second anniversary of charlottesville where a young woman heather heyer died fighting racism, anti-racist protester. and during that time we saw the neo-nazis, we saw david duke. they were praising donald trump's name. and when white supremacists think that you are a white supremacist, that's a problem. and this is the president that they believe is a white supremacist. they believe he is their savior. they believe that he got elected for them, and emboldens them. this is something many of us if you're a person of color living in this country and you saw what was going on in 2016, you knew what was happening. you knew exactly who donald trump was. and you knew even years before 2011 with birtherism. this is not something that's new for many of us. it's just n

jacob soboroff is in gilroy, california. cal perry is in tapachula, mexico. and our justice correspondent, pete williams, is in our washington, d.c., newsroom. and we'll hear from congressman veronica escobar in el paso, as well. and from democratic senator chris murphy, a leading voice on gun reform in this country. >> joining us now from el paso is telemundo anchor and host of "nbc nightly news" saturday jose diaz balart. jose, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i spoke to georgina perez, a member of the texas board of education from el paso earlier today in the 4:00 p.m. hour. i asked her what she needed from the country right now and she said what she needed from the country was for people to stop talking about immigrants as criminals. what are you hearing in that community tonight? >> reporter: i think -- you know what, we're sick and tired of being labeled anything but patriotic americans. people who are here to make this country better. we're here so that this country can progress. so that our children have a better life. that's what we want t

jacob soboroff covered the shooting from el paso. he has now read this affidavit. what's in it, jacob? >> reporter: held, ali. yeah, i'm just taking a look through it now. and this is an affidavit from the detective from the el paso police department. obviously the arresting agency of the shooter in this el paso white supremacist terrorist attack. i want to read a little bit from it. when this young man who carried out this heinous attack was arrested, it says agents and police officers at the intersection observed a male person the defendant exit out of the vehicle with his hands raised in the air and stated out loud to the agents, quote, i am the shooter. and then in the next paragraph, this is the key graph here. it says the defendant was placed under arrest and transported to police headquarters. the defendant stated he drove to the listed location from allen, texas, which we know now was 100 miles away, entered the store with an ak-47 and he opened fire using his ak-47 shooting multiple innocent victims. and here it is. the defendant stated his target were, quo

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i'm jacob soboroff here in south bend, indiana, the hometown, of course, of south bend mayor and presidential hopeful pete buttigieg. on this "headliners" mayor pete as he's become to be known on his home turf, can he take on donald trump and make history? why you? why are you the guy to take him down? >> because we need a different kind of messenger. we need somebody who is thinking about the deep issues in our country that got us here. and i think it wouldn't hurt to have somebody from a new generation, but more than anything else, we need to put forward somebody who understands that back to normal isn't going to be a winning message. we got to be ready to propose something new because the world we're stepping into is new. >> buttigieg! buttigieg! >> in april, he entered a crowded democratic field as an unknown. with a last name that was hard to announce. >> pete buttigieg. >> buttigieg. >> butti-batta. >> pete buttigieg, did i get it okay? how am i doing? >> close enough. >> but as campaign signs broke it down syllable by syllable -- >> buttigieg! buttigieg! >> -- the 37-year-old candidate

joining us now is jacob soboroff. what have you learn about infrastructures not guilworking?fter time literally, hundreds of thousands or millions of lives hanging in the ballots every single day with their rapidly deteriorating dangerous infrastructures in this country. by talking to democrats and republicans and getting out the road and seeing infrastructures crumbling in new jersey to new york and ohio and all the way o out here to southern california. politicians are putting their portions ahead of the safety and security of the american people in order to get reelected. ken buck in the episode of the congressman from colorado tells katy that you do not get punishpunis punished by sitting in washington, d.c. >> let me play that site from ken buck. >> there is little time to rebuild and analyze legislation to develop coalitions with fellow members because there were so much pressure to raise money. >> is this is a partisan thing? >> both sides' doing. >> raising money is not just for reelection. it is also the key to gaining power within the parties. >> you have to pay a c

as part of this new docuseries, msnbc's katy tur and jacob soboroff are presenting on the topics of interestsented by president trump's various business entities. as part of this week's episode, fay we they went to palm, beach, florida, about whether the businesses are contributing to the swamp that trump said he would drain. take a look. ♪ >> wow, these binoculars make you feel like you're in the club. it's, like, $100,000 feeling for free. it looks really quiet, so does that just mean nobody's around? is. >> i believe the season hasn't technically started yet, number one. number two, the president is not here. he's in washington. this is mar-a-lago, the private resort in palm beach. one of many companies that are part of the trump organization family business which ultimately will benefit the president. since his inauguration, until july 2019, president trump has spent 99 days here. for many, this 20-acre estate with its laughvish decor and ney 500 paying members is a symbol of the potential conflicts of interest that plague the trump presidency. and that is why we are here. this is a plac

while work on this issue seems to be at a standstill in many parts of the country, katy tur and jacob soboroffvernment funding has helped the area make significant progress. take a look. >> we're crawling along the 10 freeway west of downtown los angeles. the problem here isn't crumbling roads. it's just that there are too in cars. a fact that jacob and i are painfully aware of having both grown up here. >> i will say i'm somewhat optimistic because l.a. is trying to expand the subways and light rail. have you ever been on the train in l.a.? >> i've nef been on the train in l.a. >> they're getting it done. >> i don't think of trains if l.a. >> they're getting it done. having grown up here, i think when you see it for the first time, it will actually change your whole outlook on infrastructure. >> it you can watch "american swamp: build to nowhere" tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern time on msnbc. eastern time on msnbc. i had no idea why my mouth was constantly dry. it gave me bad breath. it was so embarrassing. now i take biotene dry mouth lozenges whenever i'm on the go, which is all the time. biot

democratic field for 2020 which is this question that's being put to them and i think first by jacob soboroffve on msnbc to beto o'rourke in el paso. is donald trump a white supremacist, going from racist to white supremacist and a lot of them are saying yes at in point. >> it's become the new litmus test questions and you have bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg and beto o'rourke and kirsten gillibrand saying on the record, on camera, the president is a white supremacist. you have some demurring like joe biden and kamala harris and others. but it has become the new litmus test question. based on our reporting, what we're hearing and what i expect to see from the trump campaign and people associated with the president is for them to try to turn this as you're calling his supporters racist. so almost a revival of the deplorables comment in 2016. >> and karine, i guess as jonathan is reporting the trump white house doesn't mind this because they say if you're saying who anybody that supports is racist or supremacist by association you're telling 63 million people who voted for d

msnbc's katy tur and jacob soboroff travel from new york to washington, d.c.a, to explore whether the president's businesses are contributing to the swamp that he promised to drain. take a look. >> the trump international hotel opened two weeks in the capital's old post office. a renovation estimated to cost $2 million. the trump organization is six years into the 60-year lease of the building from the federal government. >> with the notable exception of 1600 pennsylvania avenue this is the most coveted piece of real estate in washington, d.c. >> i have been here multiple times. >> it's almost hard to believe that it -- that it's explicitly illegal for foreign governments or foreign entities to stay here. >> i think that's the question. >> even us. like people like us who the sit here and pay for coffee or potato chips, that ultimately the money goes into the pocket, there are so many issues. why would you want to put yourself in that position? >> it's uncomfortable to give money to the president of the united states in this way. this is a donation to his wall

joining us now msnbc correspondent jacob soboroff. good morning. good to see you, man.i want to say katy tur wanted to be here but is still technically on maternity leave so dealing with the business of new motherhood. >> as she should. >> sends her regards to everybody. we set out to figure out what is the swamp? has donald trump drained it? what can all of us do about it? we've gone over the course of the series, the four episodes from looking at money in politics to the president's shady business dealings and over and over again what we keep hearing is people don't believe that washington, d.c. is looking out for them. so last we move to the election system and this week looking at infrastructure. this is actually the long, desired infrastructure week that president trump never actually got to complete. we're doing it on "american swamp" and looking at it through the lens of why washington cannot get it done. here is a little clip. we're driving under 5 miles an hour on an interstate highway. honestly, literally every member of congress should have to sit in los ange