joining us now, co-founder of punch bowl news, one of our favorites, jake sherman. olitical contributor. jake, let's start there. this new reconciliation bill, what will it take for senator schumer to get it through, and what are the chances of it happening? >> it'll take 50 votes, john. good morning. >> thanks for that, jake. >> 50 votes in a very tough environment, john, because we are now in july. congress has about 24, 23 days to get this done. they're out of session until monday. i find it hard to believe, personally, that some democrats in the house are going to vote for a tax increase, no matter what the tax increase is. now, this medicare provision, allowing medicare to negotiate drug prices, is broadly popular and could get through. but once you get into the tax conversation, it becomes difficult. i will say this, though, july is becoming extraordinarily busy. first, the reconciliation package. then we also have this chips bill which, as you know, john, is a top priority for the administration, for president joe biden, for the commerce department, and for co

. >> with me is gabe gutierrez and punch bowl news co-founder jake sherman.'ve been following this story with the gun manufacturers. what are lawmakers doing and what are they hoping to get out of this? >> the hearing so far has been pretty contentious. democrats really grilling the ceos. several were invited and only two of them appeared virtually. can you see up on the screen some. investigation that the oversight committee put out in terms of how much these companies have profited over the last several years. from 2019, the revenue from a.r. style rifles tripped from $40 million in 2019 to more than $120 million in 2021. ruger's gross earnings also nearly tripled during that same period and smith & wesson's revenue from all long guns, which include ar-15-style rifles more than doubled between 2019 and 2021. and we can listen to one of those contentious exchanges between the chairwoman and one of the ceos from the gun companies. take a listen. >> will you accept personal responsibility for your company's role in this tragedy and apologize to the families of

. >> want to bring in vaughn hillyard covering trump and at the event space and jake sherman of punchthere's a running theme here, right? we spoke about what took place in arizona between the former president and his former vice president. now happening again in washington d.c. i'm wondering if this is what to come come 2024 or if pence is even a legitimate or real choice option for republicans right now. >> reporter: yeah. it was just on friday that we were in arizona where both donald trump and mike pence holding campaign events for opposing events for rivals. now speaking and addressing the future of the republican party. just months away from the midterm elections and pence who just spoke here in the last hour specifically asked about the divide with donald trump and he said he didn't think it was a divide on issue but focus in his words. take a listen. >> wow. >> i don't know that the movement is that divided. i don't know that the president and i differ on issues. but we may differ on focus. i truly do believe that elections are about the future. and that's it absolutely essenti

. >> joining me now from capitol hill is jake sherman.ust like contraception, justice clarence thomas mentioned same-sex marriage, which is why this bill is coming up in congress. we heard some mixed reaction from republicans. what's your sense of things? >> so, katy, we at punch bowl news spoke to 37 senate republicans today between the hours of about 10:00 and 1:00 and found four lean or solid yes votes, which is about what i expected we would find, but a whole host of people were interested in reading the bill and expressed either measured support or just an openness to considering the issue. i'd say a few things there. that's more than i expect, than i could tell you in private conversations i've had with republicans, a lot of them have said we need to just vote for this because this is where society is and this is where the majority of the american people are and get this, quote unquote, issue of the table. i would not be surprised to see this pass the senate. could i say today for sure it would pass the senate? no, absolutely not. b

i'm going to bring in correspondent ally raffa and jake sherman, also an msnbc contributor.an adam schiff said to the associated press a couple days ago, "it's hard to imagine someone more at the center of things." they believe cipollone knows a lot about what went down in and around the oval office with former president trump, not just on the 6th but in the weeks leading up to it, too. >> yeah, hallie. this is someone who we've heard mentioned many times in past hearings but especially in the last hearing on tuesday from cassidy hutchinson in her testimony really renewing the committee's efforts in speaking with cipollone after we know he was had off-the-record private discussions with the committee. we know the deadline for his deposition was moved from today to friday. we know his deposition will be in private. it will be videotaped and transcribed likely on topics that cipollone and his attorney have agreed to. cipollone had been concerned about speaking publicly because of what he said are executive and attorney/client privilege concerns about what he can divulge about

jining me is jake sherman., but i see the report they don't want to anger him too much because president biden and chuck schumer do need him to pass at least something. >> yeah, that's the reality of the 50/50 senate. the lowest common denominator is joe manchin. and joe manchin has said he has two options. he could basically come back in august 10th after the most recent or the newest inflation numbers come out and they could consider a big package. or alternatively, they could pass this bill right now, which allows medicare to negotiate drug prices and extends aca subsidies for two years. so faced with that option, it seems like an easy decision for the white house to make politically and substantively, because you don't know where manchin is going to end up in august. if you talk to aids in the white house and on capitol hill, they are a frustrate is not even the words i would use. they are flum moxed by joe manchin, who seems to have lots of viewsover lots of issues on given the day. but i will say this. th

attorney, now president of the leadership conference on civil and human rights, and jake sherman's back's of course the founder of punch bowl news and an msnbc political contributor. jackie alemany, this is exactly what liz cheney wanted to happen for all of the evidence of illegality and knowledge of illegality. i mean, every public hearing held both the act and the knowledge and the intent to commit a corrupt and knowingly illegal act, and now we have new information that the justice department is -- it would appear more aggressively pursuing at higher levels of the trump inner command, at least the fake electors plot. >> yeah, nicolle, each of these developments that you just outlined today i think sort of put all of the -- are starting to put all the pieces to the puzzle together. there's new reporting by "the new york times" which shows that there was some attempt to defraud the american public with those emails showing that trump campaign officials knowingly were pushing this plan, even though they themselves were calling this plan fake. that's something that's going to be extreme

the co-founder of punch bowl news jake sherman is here.ining us, washington post national reporter and msnbc reporter carol leonnig is back, claire mccaskill is here and donnie deutsch is here and with the podcast "on brand." i want to start with you and this hearing tomorrow is perhaps the one that has been foreshadowed the most, the longest. i wonder what you expect to hear tomorrow? >> a few things are worth thinking about. the kind of golden ticket, nicole, from this committee is to establish some sort of connection between the radical elements that stormed the capitol, the oath keepers, the proud boys, people of that nature and the white house. i'm not sure they're going to be able to do that. i'm not sure that's in their plans and that's something to keep an eye on. furthermore, i'm more interested on something, nicole, to be honest with you, something that was not foreshadowed, which is a recent development which is cipollone's -- pat cipollone, former white house counsel, his testimony behind closed doors. i've spoken to people clo

we bring in co-founder punch bowl news jake sherman, also an msnbc political contributor. the top of the show this surprised much of washington. were you surprised that this deal came to be between joe manchin and chuck schumer? joe manchin made furious democrats across washington and the congress by rejecting much of what he approved yesterday. how did this happen? >> i was shocked, i was sitting in my desk in the capitol and got this email, what is this? the manchin and schumer kept this incredibly close to the vest for which they deserve a lot of credit, a tremendous amount of credit, but joe manchin told us last week, he was staying at the table. he was negotiating and we didn't believe him because he says that all the time and usually the deals fall apart but willie, this is huge. this is giving the opportunity to the biden administration and to senate majority leader chuck schumer and senate democrats the opportunity to enact much of their agenda, climate change provisions, tax provisions, everything that they've been talking about for two years and by the way, schume

joining us now, co-founder of punch bowl news, jake sherman, an msnbc political contributor, and we'repy to see you. jake, good morning. let's start there. the democrats, it is an ambitious wish list to get done in these next couple of weeks, do we think that the calendar could change? how much? and whether that's true or not, how much? >> well, happy publication day, jonathan. a big day for you. congratulations. a few things to note. number one, the chips bill, this long sought after priority to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing is likely to get through today. the test vote, this vote could get around the filibuster and likely to go through today and we don't expect much there. but the two other items you said, you noted, the effort to codify same-sex marriage into law, and the reconciliation package which is aimed at lowering prescription drug costs for medicare recipients and ex tend obama care subsidies is likely to be delayed at least a little bit. number one, the same-sex marriage bill will require every single vote possible. it needs 60 votes to get through the chamber,

joining me now is nbc news senior reporter ben collins, jake sherman and former u.s. attorney and michigan law professor liz mcquaid. donald trump personally called a witness. are we getting anything more on who that person might be? was there any indication they knew what trump might say if that call was answered? >> so we are hot on the trail here, katy, to find out who this witness was. we've been asking all of our sources and it appears to be a relatively small circle of people who know who this witness was. now, bennie thompson, the chair of the january 6th committee told us last night he does not anticipate this person will be testifying. so that just leaves a whole pile of possibilities given that we know many people are helping behind the scenes and only a few people, the tip of the iceberg so to speak, are actually testifying publicly. it could be one of dozens and dozens of people and mr. thompson was asked last night whether they knew what the president was calling to say and they said they just turned this information over to the justice department, they'v

jake sherman is here, the founder of punchbowl news.a mcquade, and frank figliuzzi, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence, now the host of "the bureau" podcast, all msnbc contributors. frank, i start with you, because as i read this story, i thought of another parallel government, shadow government, off-book government, whatever you want to call it, that trump set up to dirty up joe biden. he was impeached the first time and that was having rudy giuliani and his political appointees try to exploit zelenskyy for dirt on the biden family. this is how he functioned as president. >> yep, shadow government, not deep state. that's what we learn every single week, and right now, i've got to erase my white board, i've got to write smaller, because the list of lawyers that kept adding themselves to this attempt to overthrow an election gets longer and longer, and i have to write smaller and smaller because the list is just continuing to grow. this guy, look, you know, just to put this guy in perspective, you've already done it. n

. >> joining me jake sherman co-founder of punch bowl news and msnbc political contributor. juanita tolliver is an msnbc political analyst. this vote, jake, was supposed to be procedural, basically it was done. walk us through your reporting on what changed and how. >> well, it's somewhat unclear, chris. let's start from the beginning. the senate passed this bill, sent it back to the house because of a procedural issue. there was a revenue-raising measure in the bill, and it couldn't be cleared by the senate for that reason. it wasn't even changed substantively. it was changed in a very minor way. but this came after the senate had released a reconciliation package that republicans don't like, and there is an issue about an amendment that pat toomey wants, that chuck schumer said he could have at a 60-vote threshold. so they would need 60 to get that amendment in. chuck schumer's going to bring it up again on monday. many in the capitol here see it as retaliation. and it's sad to say that, although people deny it. there are many people in the capitol who see this as retaliati

here in washington with senior national political reporter, cofounder of the punch bowl news and jake sherman and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor chuck rosen. do we start talking about this deal on the electoral count app, is it going to bore people, but it's so important and it's so critical to preventing another january 6th from happening again. talk to us about where the steel stands that we are trying to basically prevent presidential candidates from stealing elections. >> that's right, we know the january 6th committee has the trove of information about a plot to still and alexa. the question becomes what are they going to do with the knowledge and this is where the rubber meets the road. a bipartisan group of senators is finalizing legislation as we speak to close gaps in election law in an attempt to prevent candidates in future elections from trying to steal elections the way former president trump allegedly attempted in 2020. there are several aspects that they are tackling, specifically, it looks like revising the 1887 electoral count act made clear a vice president does

let's bring in our panel, jake sherman from punch bowl news and also our analyst from the "washingtonost" and also chuck rosenberg, msnbc contributor and former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official. jake, let's start with the two new star witnesses. who are they, what could we learn? >> sarah matthews was a white house press official who is now working on capitol hill. kind of somebody who expressed concern let's say to say the least about former president trump's behavior on january 6, but has as you noted been silent since the insurrection at the capitol. matt pottinger as ashley could explain more was a senior aide who frankly a pretty well respected china expert in the republican party who was quite frankly somebody who former president trump leaned on a good deal during his tit for tat with china whether it came to trade or national security or anything of that nature. so i would imagine these would be two pretty high profile witnesses as you note. but in addition to that, this hearing is going to try to dissect those 100 something minutes that the capitol was under attack and d

it was something. >> jake sherman's last appearance on "way too early." he won't be answering that call again. >> this was love. >> tough love. >> jake, pretend you care how you look. that's all we're saying. >> wow. >> just pretend. >> like you always say, joe -- >> it's a tv show. you're not on radio. >> g-7, ride for life. i think it's the same thing vin diesel said in "fast and the furious." >> one of the lesser sequels. >>> we'll get back to the uk, back to boris downing in a few moments. formal resignation, we will see. >>> we want to turn to the investigation of the attack on our capitol. the missing link in the house january 6th investigation has agreed to speak to the committee. after subpoenaed last week, pat cipollone, nbc news can confirm, will sit down with lawmakers for a transcribed interview behind closed doors. cipollone, who was in the west wing during the insurrection, has been mentioned by several other witnesses during the house hearings. according to them, he repeatedly pushed back against the white house efforts to overturn the 2020

contributors betsy woodruff swan, national correspondent for politico and punch bowl news founder jake sherman. ali, one thing i think is important for people to know, this is not just about donald trump's inaction, the committee says, on the day and the evening of january 6th, it is also about what they say is the fact that he enjoyed watching this happen, and that is going to be a through line tonight, ali. >> yeah, that's going to be a through line, something that congressman kinzinger said. he described it as former president trump gleefully watching on television. when i sat down yesterday with elaine luria, who is going to be leading that hearing alongside kinzinger, she made the point they're going to try to show clips from fox news, the former president's preferred news channel, that showed the chaos and violence, that he was watching from the dining room, and that he was not acting on even as people around him urged him that he had to do something to stop the violence and tell people to go home. it is part of the teaser as the committee tries to establish that the former president was

. >> joining me now is jake sherman, co-founder of punch bowl news and michael steele former chairmanthe rnc. jake, you broke the story of that phone call, the desperate phone call by kevin mccarthy to the president of the united states. and then the swearing. fill in any gaps you've got. you were up there, you were under siege with all the reporters. >> well, yeah, a few thoughs based on the video clips that we saw compiled last night by the january 6 committee. on january 6, in mccarthy was seemingly afraid because his entire staff, the people who devoted their professional life to him, were scurrying from that room on the first floor of the capitol where they -- the second floor of the capitol, rather, where they work every day. and that is number one. and that is -- it was a very scary incident and that was his gut reaction. he quickly turned to a more political reaction, a calculation he made, andrea and katy, that he could not win back the majority without donald trump's support. which is why two weeks later he went to mar-a-lago and he took a photo with donald trump and why he

let's have jake sherman, the co-founder of punchbowl news, join us now. u know all things capitol hill. pat cipollone is somebody that the committee had wanted to hear from for months now, very public about wanting him to come in and sit down. they finally got their way. why was that? was it because of the testimony from cassidy hutchinson? >> it was. and excuse the piano in the background. listen, i think that he was under subpoena at the end of the day, cipollone. a few things to watch here. number one, they are going to play pat cipollone's video, the video of his testimony. he had spoken to the committee previously. it was not videotaped, it was not recorded and transcribed. this time all three of those things were done. what republicans are going to do is they're saying cipollone wasn't even asked about hutchinson's testimony, which is interesting to know, but i don't think it's dispositive. if his actions or what he said was mischaracterized, he did not contradict anything that cassidy hutchinson said so that's important to note. number two, i just w

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that's according to reporting from our friend, jake sherman, of punchbowl news.lace in primetime. the hearings next week will follow that bombshell testimony last week from cassidy hutchinson and a closed door meeting with pat cipollone that's scheduled for tomorrow. as the committee continues its investigation, yesterday marked 18 months to the day since the deadly insurrection took place. in the shadows of the committee's high-profile work, doj has continued to prosecute those responsible for their actions on that day, and they're closing in on another milestone in their investigation. according to the latest figures from doj, nearly 900 people have been arrested for their role in the insurrection. with 855 of them facing charges ranging from seditious conspiracy to trespassing. prosecutors estimate that more than 2,000 actually entered the capitol that day, meaning that many more cases are likely to come in the coming weeks and months. joining our coverage, miles taylor, former chief of staff at the department of homeland security, now the cofounder and execut