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james carville is here tonight for the interview. james carville, of course, is the campaign strategist who brought us the presidency of a man named bill clinton. he was elected in 1992. he beat papi bush, beat him easily. he was then wildly pop aural yz most presidents are right after they're elected. by the very next election, after the '92 one, by the very next election, by the midterm election in 1994, the pendulum had swung way back in the other direction. the republicans won a landslide in the first election of the bill clinton presidency. they took control of the house from the democrats, newt gingrich became the speaker of the house. the house swung 54 seats to the republicans. 54 seats they picked up. we have showed this before, but this cover from "time" magazine in 1994 gives you an idea of how huge the victory was for the republicans in the first midterm election that president clinton was in office. the gop elephant stampeding, right? stampeding. if you look under the elephant's foot, the elephant is destroying the democ
james carville is here tonight for the interview. james carville, of course, is the campaign strategist who brought us the presidency of a man named bill clinton. he was elected in 1992. he beat papi bush, beat him easily. he was then wildly pop aural yz most presidents are right after they're elected. by the very next election, after the '92 one, by the very next election, by the midterm election in 1994, the pendulum had swung way back in the other direction. the republicans won a landslide...
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james carville. he joins me live here in the studio. >>> also is anthony weiner making a political comeback? he's back in the headlines today. in a big way. >>> and the kitten who took on the koch brothers. i mean the doberman. that's coming up. [ kate ] many women may not be properly absorbing the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. nah. [ dennis' voice ] i bet he's got an allstate agent. they can save you up to 30% more by bundling your policies. well his dog's stupid. [ dennis' voice ] poodles are one of the world's smartest breeds. >>> folks, have you joined us on facebook yet? the conversation is going all day long. today our "politicsnation" facebook fans are writing about retroactive retirement. they're having some fun with it. christine wonders is retiring retroactively mean you have to give
james carville. he joins me live here in the studio. >>> also is anthony weiner making a political comeback? he's back in the headlines today. in a big way. >>> and the kitten who took on the koch brothers. i mean the doberman. that's coming up. [ kate ] many women may not be properly absorbing the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my...
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james carville joins us for the interview. thank you for being here. >> i'm glad to be here, rachel. >> you were saying when we were playing the clip that issues like the student loan thing resonate with people more than people think they do. you think the beltway doesn't think issues like that resonate? >> i don't think they do. they understand that romney would be letting the banks make more money. stekdly, when you talk about the middle class and how do you regrow the middle class and bring it back, education is at the forefront. they understand that. i grew up, that was the ticket to prosperity. if you got an education, you knew it was going to pay for itself. that was the best investment you could make. now, not so sure. we find out the kids have more dent than the education is worth and we have to change that, and this kind of thing, i think this is a good issue. a good political issue. i think it will resonate with people and i think they'll understand it. i really do. >> one of the things you write about in the new boo
james carville joins us for the interview. thank you for being here. >> i'm glad to be here, rachel. >> you were saying when we were playing the clip that issues like the student loan thing resonate with people more than people think they do. you think the beltway doesn't think issues like that resonate? >> i don't think they do. they understand that romney would be letting the banks make more money. stekdly, when you talk about the middle class and how do you regrow the...
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welcoming james carville. his book is in stores everywhere.alking about bill clinton earlier. big part of strategy is class warfare. >> warren buffett said my class is winning. middle-class has been losing this for a long time. they have been under siege. my message is time to fight back for them. >> sean: when bain first came out was clinton and booker and rendell, they said it's stupid but the president seem to have doubled down. >> i think smartly. >> sean: you do? >> hurray chicago. >> sean: so you want politics of personal destruction? >> i don't want that. i want to say here samantha is running for president that puts his experience at bain at the center of rationale for his candidacy. yes. people are going to question it. i think that is fine. i think let's go look at the entire record. when we ran for president in 1992, they were accusing us of murdering people at the airport. who killed vince foster. they accused us of that. >> sean: let me show you the president on issue of personal tax. you look at the latest "washington post" poll
welcoming james carville. his book is in stores everywhere.alking about bill clinton earlier. big part of strategy is class warfare. >> warren buffett said my class is winning. middle-class has been losing this for a long time. they have been under siege. my message is time to fight back for them. >> sean: when bain first came out was clinton and booker and rendell, they said it's stupid but the president seem to have doubled down. >> i think smartly. >> sean: you do?...
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host: james carville. did you get the feeling the vice president said i want to go down and give that speech? he was having a heck of a time. he is a good speaker. he gets fired up. host: stan greenberg, will be to take away from the research and the writing? guest: the most important thing is listening to people. you can never lose track of the. you have to listen to ordinary folks. whenever you think about the crisis, this is long term. i trust builders to get it right. host: has your wife read the book? guest: she has not. host: had she read any of your books? guest:, i do not know if she will read. maybe i will try to read it to her while she is sleeping. host: the book is titled "it's the middle class, stupid. stan greenberg, james carville, thank you for being with us. in a couple of minutes, we will turn our attention to the dodd- frank legislation, which continues to be the subject of debate and a legal challenge. c. boyden gray will be here to talk about it. later, america by the numbers with chil
host: james carville. did you get the feeling the vice president said i want to go down and give that speech? he was having a heck of a time. he is a good speaker. he gets fired up. host: stan greenberg, will be to take away from the research and the writing? guest: the most important thing is listening to people. you can never lose track of the. you have to listen to ordinary folks. whenever you think about the crisis, this is long term. i trust builders to get it right. host: has your wife...
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>> unlike james carville who will be here. this is huge!veable is the word i think of -- >> stan greenberg, i love those guys. >> james carville, loveable right there. political pollster stan greenberg as well, standing by in the green room. more "morning joe" in just a moment. the medicare debate continues in washington... ...more talk on social security... ...but washington isn't talking to the american people. [ female announcer ] when it comes to the future of medicare and social security, you've earned the right to know. ♪ ...so what does it mean for you and your family? [ female announcer ] you've earned the facts. ♪ washington may not like straight talk, but i do. [ female announcer ] and you've earned a say. get the facts and make your voice heard on medicare and social security at earnedasay.org. delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet the house is considering a bill to close thousands of offices, slash service and layoff over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think
>> unlike james carville who will be here. this is huge!veable is the word i think of -- >> stan greenberg, i love those guys. >> james carville, loveable right there. political pollster stan greenberg as well, standing by in the green room. more "morning joe" in just a moment. the medicare debate continues in washington... ...more talk on social security... ...but washington isn't talking to the american people. [ female announcer ] when it comes to the future of...
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panic mode and go head to head with james carville but they stoop to a new low claiming that mitt romney may have committed a felony. deputy campaign manager said that governor romney allegedly falsified his sec filings during his tenure at bain capital. it prompted governor romney to demand an apology but they said governor romney should stop whining. >> he is not going to get an apology. mitt romney a few months ago said to his opponent to stop whining. instead of whining about the obama campaign, put the facts out there. >> sean: now as they continue to distort the record of bain and make wild speculation about outsourcing, president obama's record, why are so many of his surrogates hosting fund-raisers
panic mode and go head to head with james carville but they stoop to a new low claiming that mitt romney may have committed a felony. deputy campaign manager said that governor romney allegedly falsified his sec filings during his tenure at bain capital. it prompted governor romney to demand an apology but they said governor romney should stop whining. >> he is not going to get an apology. mitt romney a few months ago said to his opponent to stop whining. instead of whining about the...
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james carville.thank you vtes are beng thmn tabthok uln b yrd trupoa condi rice short-lived for mitt romney. just go that's the most ridiculous thing. romney w getting it all day because of thebn. tat anhe e. idgood, put condi rice said for vice president. >> guest: that party cannt nominate a p-choicvi itotngha in.dida probably one of the most things that the iraq war cause i'm sure that's what the reublicans want the election to becnt un ue: jack, on every level. the whole thing was a hedge fake to try to get the super bank. >> host: who does he take? >> gut: w't nw soutic si would do either ryan for christy. i would be someone that the party would find motivati. just ohasruy's a jbo i. l ed rollins. i don't know about the third one, but i certainly encourage him on othe first year. >> host: i want to talk abou the esids ist a diu write "it's the middle class, stupid!" it confirms what we all suspected. it's really screwed things up for the average american. education costs are ou of sight. effort
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i love to listen to james carville. >> he should put sub titles in english. >> he is such a passionatesan. it's interesting to hear. >> no big issue, that is carville. i don't think that is going to fly with the american people, but when he said salute to chicago. these attacks are what concerns me to a certain extent. if they allow a narrative to set in cement they are going to have a tough time be it bain or the economy or class warfare. i think they are making a mistake. >> the bain is the bain of their existence. it's crucial they answer this and they haven't. they put on some pathetic ad where it said hillary clinton shame on you barack obama. there is another one bill clinton says he has a sterling business record. in my lifetime that stuff has never worked. you have to put on the success stories. there is a company called dynamic steel. romney came in, get rid of the blast furnaces and got the investors to change the company. now it's the fifth largest steel maker, 6500 employees. average pay $85,000. i think romney had a spot, a wonderful 60 second spot that they pulled too soo
i love to listen to james carville. >> he should put sub titles in english. >> he is such a passionatesan. it's interesting to hear. >> no big issue, that is carville. i don't think that is going to fly with the american people, but when he said salute to chicago. these attacks are what concerns me to a certain extent. if they allow a narrative to set in cement they are going to have a tough time be it bain or the economy or class warfare. i think they are making a mistake....
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james carville, james carville. great to have you here. >>> up next, eyes wide shut. the penn state report going public. >>> plus new details on congressman jesse jackson jr.'s whereabouts. i don't spend money on gasoline. i don't have to use gas. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. drive around town all the time doing errands and never ever have to fill up gas in the city. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. the last time i went to the gas station must have been about three months ago. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. ♪ home protector plus, from liberty mutual insurance, where the costs to both repair your home and replace your possessions are covered. and we don't just cut a check for the depreciated value -- we can actually replace your stuff with an exact or near match. plus, if your home is unfit to live in after an incident, we pay for you to stay somewhere else while it's being repaired. home protector plus, f
james carville, james carville. great to have you here. >>> up next, eyes wide shut. the penn state report going public. >>> plus new details on congressman jesse jackson jr.'s whereabouts. i don't spend money on gasoline. i don't have to use gas. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. drive around town all the time doing errands and never ever have to fill up gas in the city. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. last time i was at a gas station was...
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dan lothian, roland martin, james carville. all joining us this morning.nt" begins right now. ♪ darling, don't you go and cut your hair ♪ ♪ do you think it's going to -- >> that's ryan lizza's play list this morning, the pavement, "cut your hair." >> i like a lot of his contemporary music. >> nothing i listen to is being played this morning. we'll have to work on that a little. >>> my team with me this morning, danny glover. oscar nominated actor and the executive producer of a documentary we'll discuss this morning called "shenandoah" about a killing that took place in pennsylvania. ryan lizza, washington correspondent for the new yorker. and will cain a columnist for theblaze.com joining us. i have to separate you two after the fighting last segment. >> it's all good. >>> a bit of a dog and pony show about to unfold on capitol hill. the republican-controlled house is preparing to vote this afternoon to repeal president obama's health care overhaul. it's mostly symbolic. but it's an election year, and because of that, it's all about the talking points. li
dan lothian, roland martin, james carville. all joining us this morning.nt" begins right now. ♪ darling, don't you go and cut your hair ♪ ♪ do you think it's going to -- >> that's ryan lizza's play list this morning, the pavement, "cut your hair." >> i like a lot of his contemporary music. >> nothing i listen to is being played this morning. we'll have to work on that a little. >>> my team with me this morning, danny glover. oscar nominated actor...
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democratic strategist james carville and stan greenberg are here, they are both advisors to president bill clinton during the 1992 presidential election campaign, and the reelection campaign, the famous mantra of that campaign was, it is the economy, stupid. now 20 years later, the 2012 presidential campaign draws closer and is, in fact, underway, carville and greenberg have a new battle cry, it is also the title of their new book, it is called, guess what, it is the middle class, stupid! they believe that the single biggest problem facing the country is the deterioration of the middle class, i am pleased to have them here on this program. back at this table, welcome, good to see you. >> let's do relationships first, i mean coming out of the campaign, look -- have you been friends since the campaign? do you have -- >> my kids say we are like old ladies. >> ah. >> you know, we talk 7:00 o'clock every morning, in the clinton campaign, we met before seven every other morning, but 7:00 every morning ever since. >> it is kind of an odd -- short jewish guy from washington, d.c. who went to
democratic strategist james carville and stan greenberg are here, they are both advisors to president bill clinton during the 1992 presidential election campaign, and the reelection campaign, the famous mantra of that campaign was, it is the economy, stupid. now 20 years later, the 2012 presidential campaign draws closer and is, in fact, underway, carville and greenberg have a new battle cry, it is also the title of their new book, it is called, guess what, it is the middle class, stupid! they...
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. >>> james carville says it's no longer about the economy, it's about the middle class.e'll talk to him about his new book. >>> and handy notes. jeanne moos takes a closer look at sarah palin, and others, all caught red-handed. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ somebody didn't book with travelocity, with 24/7 customer support to help move them to the pool daddy promised! look at me, i'm swimming! somebody, get her a pony! [ female announcer ] the travelocity guarantee. from the price to the room to the trip you'll never roam alone. >>> there's a new take on one of the most iconic slogans in politics, the original was made famous by the man who helped bill clinton win the white house. >> it's the economy, stupid. >> now that slogan has been updated. and james carville, our polit
. >>> james carville says it's no longer about the economy, it's about the middle class.e'll talk to him about his new book. >>> and handy notes. jeanne moos takes a closer look at sarah palin, and others, all caught red-handed. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping...
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so much more. >> host: james carville. guest: you got the feeling that the vice president said i want to go down and give that speech! he was having a heck of a time. you know, it was great,sy a good speaker when he gets fired up. he's pretty passionate. hov host one thing that you've learned in putting the book together, you've talked about them so far but what did you take away from your research and reading? guest: probably the most important thing is listening to people, because you can never lose track of this, that you have to listen to ordinary folks, a clear misconception, whatever you think about the crisis, because we kept trying to look at the financial crisis, this is long term. okay, and i trust voters to get it right. host: has your wife mary matlin read the book? guest: she hasn't yet. i think there are some things in here she'd agree with but i don't know if she'll read to them. maybe i'll read to her while she's sleeping and penetrate -- >> host: the book is "it's the middle class stupid", james carville,
so much more. >> host: james carville. guest: you got the feeling that the vice president said i want to go down and give that speech! he was having a heck of a time. you know, it was great,sy a good speaker when he gets fired up. he's pretty passionate. hov host one thing that you've learned in putting the book together, you've talked about them so far but what did you take away from your research and reading? guest: probably the most important thing is listening to people, because you...
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and joining us is james carville. co-author of "it's the middle class stupid!"night he decided to give interviews to abc, cbs, nbc, and fox news. it came from news about his departure from bain capital. in previous days we saw document after document emerge where it showed mitt romney remained at bain capital beyond 2002 rather than february. plus, democrats hammered romney all week over his failure to lease more atlanta just two years of tax returns. and despite even some republican leaders suggesting that he needs to release more, including a "wall street journal" editorial page editor on that program last week, romney last night announced he has decided that unlike previous presidential candidates of the last few decades, he will release only the two years of returns. >> i've already put out one year of tax returns. we'll put out the next year of tax returns as soon as the accountants have that ready, and that's what we're going to put out. i know there will always be calls for more. people always want to get more, and, you know, we're putting out what is req
and joining us is james carville. co-author of "it's the middle class stupid!"night he decided to give interviews to abc, cbs, nbc, and fox news. it came from news about his departure from bain capital. in previous days we saw document after document emerge where it showed mitt romney remained at bain capital beyond 2002 rather than february. plus, democrats hammered romney all week over his failure to lease more atlanta just two years of tax returns. and despite even some republican...
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. >> secretary reich, let me play you something former clinton adviser james carville said about thising in this campaign, democratic super pacs have been more influential so far. they have driven the debate much more than the republican super pac. >> are democrats starting to beat the gop at their own game and if that's good for the president, does it -- into democracy? >> first of all, i don't think if you look at the amount of money raised by the super pacs, the republican super pacs, they may not be as effective as james carville says, but certainly the amounts of money are much greater and you also have this second group of things. they're called social welfare organizations, so-called charitable organizations, but they are the ones who can take the money in secret. the chamber of commerce. the crossroads organization by karl rove and others. they are the ones that are really very, very secret and they are also raking in huge amounts of money and i would say even if the democrats surprisingly and i don't think they will, even if the democrats were going to take in more money that
. >> secretary reich, let me play you something former clinton adviser james carville said about thising in this campaign, democratic super pacs have been more influential so far. they have driven the debate much more than the republican super pac. >> are democrats starting to beat the gop at their own game and if that's good for the president, does it -- into democracy? >> first of all, i don't think if you look at the amount of money raised by the super pacs, the republican...
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james carville is here tonight for the interview. james carville, of course, is the campaign strategist who brought us the presidency of a man named bill clinton. he was elected in 1992. he beat papi bush, beat him easily. he was then wildly pop aural yz most presidents are right after they're elected. by the very next election, after the '92 one, by the very next election, by the midterm election in 1994, the pendulum had swung way back in the other direction. the republicans won a landslide in the first election of the bill clinton presidency. they took control of the house from the democrats, newt gingrich became the speaker of the house. the house swung 54 seats to the republicans. 54 seats they picked up. we have showed this before, but this cover from "time" magazine in 1994 gives you an idea of how huge the victory was for the republicans in the first midterm
james carville is here tonight for the interview. james carville, of course, is the campaign strategist who brought us the presidency of a man named bill clinton. he was elected in 1992. he beat papi bush, beat him easily. he was then wildly pop aural yz most presidents are right after they're elected. by the very next election, after the '92 one, by the very next election, by the midterm election in 1994, the pendulum had swung way back in the other direction. the republicans won a landslide...
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with george will, donna brazile, matthew dowd and that political odd couple, james carville and mary matalin. >>> hello again. everything is happening at hyperspeed in this campaign. only july. and the obama campaign has already spent $100 million on campaign ads. most of them going over mitt romney. mitt romney and his allies have spent the same. in their latest ad said that mitt romney is lying about his record at bain capital. >> when the president doesn't tell the truth, how can we trust him to lead. >> the obama outsourcing attacks, misleading, unfair and untrue. america expects more from a president. obama's dishonest campaign, another reason america has lost confidence in barack obama. >>> and with that, let's get a response from obama's campaign chair, the former white house chief of staff and current chicago mayor rahm emanuel. good morning, mr. mayor. >> good morning, george. >> romney went further in an interview with abc's jon karl on friday, he demanded that president obama apologize for what he called "chicago-style politics," any chance he'll get one? >> first of all,
with george will, donna brazile, matthew dowd and that political odd couple, james carville and mary matalin. >>> hello again. everything is happening at hyperspeed in this campaign. only july. and the obama campaign has already spent $100 million on campaign ads. most of them going over mitt romney. mitt romney and his allies have spent the same. in their latest ad said that mitt romney is lying about his record at bain capital. >> when the president doesn't tell the truth, how...
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james carville has a new book out with stan greenberg, "it's the middle class stupid."is just coming out today. we're going to talk about what's going on in the world of presidential politics. also on a very different subject, national security. the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers is here, jane harmon, former ranking member of that committee. that's in our 6:00 p.m. eastern hour. we've got good stuff to talk about with them. a lot of news happening in the world of politics, national security. all sorts of good stuff. i'm looking forward to three hours of "the situation room" coming up. >> three hours. wolf blitzer, quick question. i know your daughter lives in new york city. this is a segue into our next segment, i bet her friends have tiny apartments. >> very small. but that's new york, new york. i'm sure they're not as small as what mayor bloomberg has in line. >> there we go. that's why we love you. we're going to talk about that. new york has famously small apartments. they could get even smaller. under this proposal wolf just mentioned, th
james carville has a new book out with stan greenberg, "it's the middle class stupid."is just coming out today. we're going to talk about what's going on in the world of presidential politics. also on a very different subject, national security. the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers is here, jane harmon, former ranking member of that committee. that's in our 6:00 p.m. eastern hour. we've got good stuff to talk about with them. a lot of news happening in the...
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james carville and stan greenberg highlight it in their new book. "it's the middle class, stupid." guys, let me ask you first of all, you look at that number there, stan, what do you think when you see a number like that? >> it rings true. i hear it from people. we spend a lot of time listening to people. they are in pain. they're watching themselves slipping. they're watching their parents slipping. and they know this is an enormous struggle. we also know that this number has dropped about 20 points in ten years. >> why do you think, james. why do people fundamentally think hard work won't save them anymore? >> they're working hard themselves and see themselves falling behind. they see people around them working hard that are slipping behind. this trend has been going on for 30 years. and, of course it was exasperated by the financial crisis. as we say in the book, these were people that had pneumonia and got run over by a pickup truck. they wer't doing that well before. >> you say it is the middle class, stupid. who is the middle class? >> it is hard work and responsibility. peop
james carville and stan greenberg highlight it in their new book. "it's the middle class, stupid." guys, let me ask you first of all, you look at that number there, stan, what do you think when you see a number like that? >> it rings true. i hear it from people. we spend a lot of time listening to people. they are in pain. they're watching themselves slipping. they're watching their parents slipping. and they know this is an enormous struggle. we also know that this number has...
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. >> james carville joins me along with david fromme. i'm just a little confused. he made a big, with great fanfare announced that foreign trip to show he could be a great commander in chief. you'd think at least you'd talk about something you'd be doing. even if you weren't criticizing the president. talk about something positive you might do, right? >> you can talk about positive things. of course you must avoid criticizing the president. that's very important. i'm glad he did do that. mitt romney gave an interview which is appearing tomorrow, which does give more clarity on his foreign policy -- >> in israel. >> -- middle east. i think mitt romney is especially worried about getting drawn on the biggest foreign policy question at the moment which is also an economic question and that is the problem of the euro. that is a situation that is changing so fast that if you're a candidate for president you're very worried about saying things now that might bind you nine months from now in a completely different situation. >> james carville, i'm curious though, because
. >> james carville joins me along with david fromme. i'm just a little confused. he made a big, with great fanfare announced that foreign trip to show he could be a great commander in chief. you'd think at least you'd talk about something you'd be doing. even if you weren't criticizing the president. talk about something positive you might do, right? >> you can talk about positive things. of course you must avoid criticizing the president. that's very important. i'm glad he did do...
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. >>> last night on the rachel maddow show, james carville talked to rachel about why the issue of student loans is so important to democrats in the upcoming election. >> when you talk about what the middle class or how do you regrow the middle class, how do you bring it back, education is at the forefront. they understand that. i grew up you know, that was the ticket to prosperity. if you got an education, you knew that was going to pay for itself. that was the best investment that you could make. now -- not so sure. sometimes, you know, we find out these kids get more debt than the education is worth, and we've got to change that, and this kind of thing, i think this is as good issue. a good political issue. i think it will resonate the people out there and i think they'll understand it. i really do. >> you don't want to miss out on rachel maddow's unique take on politics. weeknights at 9:00 eastern right here on msnbc. the place for politics. >>> the most destructive wildfire ever in colorado has finally been 100% contained. the 29 square mile waldo canyon fire near colorado springs was
. >>> last night on the rachel maddow show, james carville talked to rachel about why the issue of student loans is so important to democrats in the upcoming election. >> when you talk about what the middle class or how do you regrow the middle class, how do you bring it back, education is at the forefront. they understand that. i grew up you know, that was the ticket to prosperity. if you got an education, you knew that was going to pay for itself. that was the best investment...