. -- >> new text messages and new filing from the january six committee, tonight, congressman jamie raskin on new revelations about the secret service, why mike pence refuses to leave the capitol with them and we are learning from thousands of text messages from trump's chief of staff, that showed refresh some fading memories. >> did you advocate for president trump to impose martial law as a way to remain in power? >> i don't recall. >> then, big new fines for donald trump as he is held in civil contempt in new york state. and what we know about the top tier biden officials making a big show of support and war torn ukraine. all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. we have a whole host of explosive new developments about the attempted coup on january 6th. and a member of the house investigative committee, congressman jamie raskin will join me to talk about all of it. because today, as you might have seen, we learned about a trove of tax to and from trump 's chief of staff mark meadows, dating from election day 2020, to the last days of the trump administration.

congressman jamie raskin joins me live. and old home week in the east room, barack obama's return to the white house. >> thank you. vice president biden, vice president -- [laughs] that was a joke. >> all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes, a democratic president is now poised to put a justice on the u.s. supreme court for the first time in more than a decade. as soon as this week, judge ketanji brown-jackson will be confirmed to the court with bipartisan support. and that's despite the best efforts of some senate republicans who try to essentially assassinate judge jackson's character by painting her as sympathetic to child abusers. the behavior by republicans in the u.s. senate, particularly the hearings, have been disturbing. shocking language and rhetoric used to politically smear by people who know better. >> i want to make certain that we protect children, and that we continue to do our best effort to protect children. i also want to make certain that we are going to have judges on the fe

jamie raskin from serves on the january six committee and he joins me now.gressman, at the end of it it seems a lot of people very close to the president have cooperated with the committee given testimony. >> nobody wants to get left behind because the truth is coming out in the way that it's supposed to in a democracy and it's kind of the way you journalists operate saying we'll have everyone else speaking to us, but not you unless you decide to come forward. it's like a woodwork -- [laughs] exactly no one wants to get left on the dock, you know. but the truth is the whole country now knows the basic outline of the story. we don't know exactly when every single person was doing at every moment, but we know that there was one line of attack which was a violent insurrection unprecedented and our history injuring wounding hospitalizing more than 150 of our police officers and interrupting the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in american history. as they shut down at the counting of the counting of the electoral college votes. another line of attac

mcmaster, and jamie raskin with the latest on january 6. ♪♪ to "face the nn."o continue our conversation wi with fiona hill. fiona, this is really these two personalities, volodymyr zelenskyy and vladimir putin. and it's all about trying to change putin's mind. at this point, is there any succession planned if he is no longer running russia? >> there is always a succession plan, at least in theory, which is something happens to him normally, then either the prime minister or the speaker of the russian parliament would step in and they would have elections. under this current circumstances, there is no way vladimir putin wants to loosen his grip on power. 2024 he is supposed to have a presidential election. in theory, we know he has two more presidential terms he can contest, and that would take him to 2036. he has some staying power. there is absolutely no way he would want to go back any way, or on the back of a disaster in ukraine. >> brennan: so this is solidifying his hold on power, rather than weakening? >> absolutely. but the hold is very brittle. the sit

congressman jamie raskin who saw just there says, new crimes previously uncovered will be exposed. the panel spent most of the panel today virtually for trump senior advisor, seen stephen miller. the eight hour long session was heated at times. miller invoked executive privilege when asked about his discussions with trump, including a phone call he had with the former president the morning of january 6th. the paper goes on to report, quote, investigators asked repeatedly about the use of the word we throughout trump speech on the ellipse. and another part of washington today, the january six rioter who told jurors he was just following presidential orders when he stormed the capitol, for he was found guilty. the federal judge spoke after the verdict saying, quote, i think our democracy is in trouble because unfortunately, we have charlatans like our former president who doesn't in my view really care about democracy, but only about power. let's discuss and bring in eugene daniels, white house correspondent for politico. and former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a f

you heard a little bit of my conversation with jamie raskin who is postulating that, in fact, and youbout this, that donald trump was prepared to seize the presidency and likely invoke the insurrection act and declare martial law if the capitol attack had succeeded. in fact his military adviser, whatever you want to call him, michael flynn had floated the martial law idea out in public. tell me more about that because it changes how americans who watched january 6th proceedings and the public hearings in june need to think about this. >> yeah. i think people want to step back from the insurrection act discussions that trump was having with his closest advisors because it is so distasteful and it leaves such a bad taste in our mouth, but the point was, as you say leading up to the december 18, 2020, trump was in the oval office with people like mike flinn, sydney powell and he was discussing with them how to effectively take control of normal laws that have extraordinary power of the presidency that have voting machines and can invoke martial law. the conversation shifted leading up to

now, one of the members of congress participating in that investigation, the maryland, jamie raskin, i said some pretty high expectations for what we should expect in his public hearings. he said, quote, the hearings will tell a story that will blow the roof off the house. how is that for 80s. joining us now is congressman jamie raskin, he served as the lead impeachment manager during donald trump's second impeachment, he's the member of the january six investigation, thank you for being here, it is good to see you again. i want to ask you, sir, about these audio tapes that have been released of kevin mccarthy. they dominated the news cycle, they got potentially clear political implications, but that is not what you do. your investigation is not about the politics of it. how do those recordings, what kevin mccarthy said at the january six about and possibly to donald trump have an impact on investigation? >> they are a vivid reminder of what was clear to everybody that was caught up in the violent insurrection in the attempted coup against congress and the congressman order. which is

jamie raskin cares, you care, i care, our viewers care. but, fundamentally, can you do anything about a president who either incited a mob in an insurrection or didn't do anything to stop it? is there a statute that can result in consequences for donald trump or those around him? >> yes. and i think one thing we have to recognize is that the authority of the january six committee is somewhat limited, right? it's not a criminal investigatory body. but the department of justice is. there are several statutes, where the evidence of donald trump's inaction demonstrates his knowledge, intent in consciousness of guilt to commit a crime. that, as a former prosecutor, that would be central evidence to show exactly what his state of mind was on that day. and then you add up all the evidence of his efforts in prior weeks and months to overturn the election, and i think you have a pretty good case for a conspiracy to defraud the united states by impairing a lawful election. that is a common conspiracy charge, under title 18, united states code three

at 2 p.m., we will feature the annapolis books festival with jamie raskin and his book unthinkable.rauma, truth, and the trials of american democracy. generalist susan page and her book, madam speaker. nancy pelosi and the lessons of power. at 10 p.m. eastern, the atlanta journal-constitution political reporter talks about his books list on georgia turning purple during the 2020 presidential election. the significance in the future in state and natural -- national elections. then they are joined by

. >> i want to play for you, jason johnson, something that congressman jamie raskin said on this show many months ago about their sort of investigative theory about the three rings. because what luke's story presents for the very first time that perhaps doj is examining that perhaps they're theory of the investigation is very much the same as what jamie raskin describes right here. >> there was a mass demonstration, a wild demonstration called by donald trump that turned into a riot. that was the outer ring of activity. the middle ring of activity was the insurrection itself and that was the proud boys, the oath keepers, the 3%-ers and a bunch of organize extremist violent groups that were training for battle that broke our windows and that began the assault on the police officers that the rioters filled in on. but the scariest part of the day was really the inner ring of the coup. and there the whole point was to try to force vice president mike pence to declare completely lawless powers to unilaterally reject and repudiate votes if arizona, georgia and pennsylvania and a handful of

joining us now is congressman jamie raskin.t and the judiciary committee, and then investigation, congressman raskin, it is really good to see you. thanks very much for being here. >> i'm delighted to be with you rachel meadow, i will come back to the show. >> i know you can make the see warm for me. i'm floored, i should be ford by the new york times reporting because it feels like a textbook example right now who was compromised by foreign power, and it seems like about two u.s. officials. is there more complex way to see it, or are there nuances that aren't immediately visible to us reading this reporting. >> it was a moneymaking operation from the beginning. i do fall the democrats for not aggressively pushing to foreign governments that donald trump was breaking in from saudi arabia and from the united emirates and from indonesian governments all over the world. and it was a moneymaking operation from our own governments. department author department, agency after agency spent their money at the trump hotels and the golf c

during this part of the deat debate republicans asked for democrat jamie raskin's words to be taken down for what he said in an exchange with representative marjorie taylor greene. having words taken down is a house rule that can be used to discipline a member for making inappropriate comments. representative raskin laider agreed with the parliamentarian that it was inappropriate and withdrew the offending words. this runs about an hour. passed. mr. speaker, vladimir putin's criminal war of aggression and atrocity against the sovereign nation of ukraine has dismembered the second largest country in europe. putin's soldiers have killed more than 2,700 ukrainian civilians and more than 100 children in ukraine. they have raped and murdered untold numbers of women, leaving their bodies in the street. they have wounded thousands of civilians, and they have displaced 10 million ukrainians, creating the largest

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jamie raskin, representative jamie raskin of maryland has been a great voice for the house select committee who, by the way, just revealed that mike pence said i won't get in that car when they tried to take him to the capitol, so, you know, we need much more of that. i think there are too many democratic officials who are acting like this is just another election. >> yes. >> and we're going to talk about inflation versus popular economics and we're going to duck the culture wars that the white right -- the white right is waging. >> yeah. >> against school boards around the country as they also try to make it so that normal people who try to do the right thing as election officials won't do it. >> yeah. >> they have criminalized technical errors in ten states, prison sentences if you counted something wrong. >> and i wish we had more time and we'll go into that some of that later in the show. nancy maclean and charles blow, thanks very much. chilling but important. next up on "the reidout," american captive trevor reed is set freed by russia. ambassador bill richardson who has been fighting

jamie raskin, obviously, used the term blow the roof off the house. they all have some version of what is going to happen in these public hearings. i am curious as to whether you think there is big material coming out, and even if there is whether or not it will have any impact on anybody in america? i do not know if there is anyone in america who does not have a view about what happened on january six 2020 and what is responsible for it. 2021, i am sorry. >> i think the information is going to be big. these text messages with sean hannity and mark meadows are just a slice of the evidence the committee has. i think a committee member put it to me, and under 10%, which is pretty significant. i think the story of the public hearing, the story that comes out, it will be trying to connect trump and the white house to the various boardrooms of the political offices. they were screaming in the weeks after the election all the way up to january six, down to the militia groups. the oath keepers, the proud boys who actually stormed, and the justice department

committee upcoming hearings will tell a story thawill blow the roof off the house, according to jamie raskin, speaking to nbc news last week. raskin says the public hearing starting in june will provide evidence that trump and his allies helped coordinate the january 6 attack as they tried to prevent joe biden from taking office. we turn to the congressional reporter for the guardian, hugo, it is great to have you with us. we learned this week from a court document filed that republican lawmakers including matt gaetz and jimordan called trump in december 2020, plotting ways and trying to find any way to overturn the election and prevent joe biden from taking office. what more can you tell us? reporter: the key point is the meeting trump had with republicans, big trump allies on the hill and they talked about how to stop the certification of joe biden, and they went back and forth and at some point mark meadows and others learned the efforts to violate this are unlawful and yet they pursue the strategy anyway. geoff: so the question about if it is all connected, there is testimony about the r

and joining us now is someone who doesn't take his word for it, democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland. he's a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. and served as the lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment of senate trial of donald trump. thank you very much for joining us tonight. so we have this, controversy depending on the republican side of the house. and kevin mccarthy defense not. i was right -- >> he has to suppress the fact that he had the exact same reaction that the vast majority of members of congress and the vast majority of the public had. i mean he was horrified and he knew that in this environment where six people had already died that day, several people would die in the days to come. with 150 of our officers wounded. this was a totally fluid and dangerous and unpredictable environment. i'm good for him that he thought at least for a fleeting moment that he should try to rein in matt gates and others who were attacking list shiny and other members who dare to start telling the truth about what jus

capitol riot with democratic congressman, jamie raskin visit booktv.org for a full schedule. first up from annapolis usa today washington bureau chief susan page discusses the life and political career of speaker nancy pelosi. i'm jennifer palmieri, and i'm very excited to welcome my friend susan paige to annapolis. i'm a proud edgewater. yay. i'm a proud edgewater anne arundel county resident. i susan i have known each other for a long time because she's covered a lot of people i worked for i was hillary clinton's communications director barack obama's communications director worked for president clinton, john. edwards john edwards presidential campaign and you know in some ways it's the losses. i think this i think nancy blows you would say the same we would say the same thing you kind of grow and think about and learn from you know, the losses and you know a tough situation like the edward family more than other than other situations then the victories which come a little easy and susan so susan and i have first met her where you know, if she was usa today when i work for

may say ♪ ♪ i'm wishing my days away ♪ ♪ no way ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ democratic congressman jamie raskintack. remember, he was there as maga goons try to barrel into the chamber. but at the moment that he describes as a chilling was when former vice president mike pence refused to leave the capitol as insurrectionists stormed the building. >> he uttered what i think are the six most chilling words of this entire thing i have seen so far. he said, i'm not getting in that car because the secret service agents who presumably are reporting to trump's secret service agents were trying to spirit him off of the campus and he said, i'm not getting in that car until we count the electoral college votes. he knew exactly why this inside coup they had planned for was going to do. >> joining me now is christina greer, associate professor at fordham university. and -- at a former u.s. attorney. joyce, i want to go to you first because that is chilling and even when i first heard the story that when you heard that mike pence literally looked at those secret service agents and said i'm not getting into

here's democrat congressman jamie raskin. ha i'm really concerned about what it does to people to feed themselves on lies and i do think they're acting muchct more like members of a religious cult. i have literally been consulting programmers to try to figure out how to talk to them and how to pull them away. and basically the deprogrammers say you have to be as warm and affectionate and as personable as you can be with them and make them remember what life was like before they got into the cold. all right. joining me now is sean duffy,, former wisconsin congressman and fox news contributor and somebody i served with iny. the united states congress , you and i both know jamie raskin served with them w and this wasn't just some flippant answer. he was i think he was very serious about wanting to deprogram, you know, religious guys like, you know, completelyk leaning back in the chair and very thoughtful is he's going through the deprogramming answer. but hold on a second. jason isn't is the party that wants to talk about and t

eastern, we will feature the annapolis book festival with maryland democratic congressman jamie raskin with his book "unthinkable -trauma, truth, and the trials of american democracy." journalist susan page and her book "madam speaker - nancy pelosi in the lessons of power." and the "atlanta journal-constitution" reporter with his book on georgia turning purple in the election. he is interviewed by "washington post" national political reporter eugene scott. watch a tv every sunday on c-span2, and find a program schedule at book tv.org. >> next, ukrainian president zelenskyy addresses will financial leaders during an event at the world bank headquarters in washington. president zelenskyy: financial institutions to punish russia for its actions in ukraine. this is about 40 minutes. >> good afternoon. i would like to welcome everyone joining us here at the world bank headquarters in washington, d.c., as well as the global audience joining us via live stream. i am deeply horrified and shocked by russia's invasion of ukraine, the atrocities committed against the civilian population, and the

staffing we were talking about with a caller a couple of seconds ago, and i want to bring to you when jamie raskin to say about the irs and it staffing here here is what representative raskin said. [video clip] rep raskin: the irs has lost more than 20 thousand place during this time period due to funding cuts. now it has many full-time employees as it did in 1974. the number of taxpayers has increased by 14% since 2010, but the number of full-time enforcement staff has decreased by 30%. nobody loves paying taxes, but what hard-working taxpayers hate the most is rich corporations and people like donald trump getting away with paying little or no taxes. it is only billionaire tax chiefs who profit from understaffing and under financing of the irs, while constituents like megan are stuck on the phone, calling 50 different times and never get a call back. we have a fear tax system for everybody, and people can stop getting away with ripping the government off. host: let's see what some of our social media followers are saying about their experience with the irs this tax season. here one tweet that sa

staffing we were talking about with a caller a couple of seconds ago, and i want to bring to you when jamie raskin to say about the irs and it staffing here here is what representative raskin said. [video clip] rep raskin: the irs has lost more than 20 thousand place during this time period due to funding cuts. now it has many full-time employees as it did in 1974. the number of taxpayers has increased by 14% since 2010, but the number of full-time enforcement staff has decreased by 30%. nobody loves paying taxes, but what hard-working taxpayers hate the most is rich corporations and people like donald trump getting away with paying little or no taxes. it is only billionaire tax chiefs who profit from understaffing and under financing of the irs, while constituents like megan are stuck on the phone, calling 50 different times and never get a call back. we have a fear tax system for everybody, and people can stop getting away with ripping the government off. host: let's see what some of our social media followers are saying about their experience with the irs this tax season. here one tweet that sa

jamie raskin makes this time between the text. let me play you jamie raskin making the connection neal's making from the text and the disinformation that was being pumped into the white house chief of staff that sort of closes this circuit between republican members of congress, this frantic effort to sort of continue with the cover-up, continue to blame antifa even as the facts and the complicity of republican members in the plot to pressure pence to overturn the election are also laid bare in these texts. let me show you congressman jamie raskin earlier today. >> it's very clear a lot of people were trying to blame it on antifa from the beginning, and that's very much part of the this story, but then, you know, after that happened, the assertion was that this was just, you know, a wild demonstration as it had been called by donald trump that got out of control. but it was really a lot more than that because the insurrectionary violence can only be understood in conjunction with this attempt to pressure and coerce mike pence to r

congressman jamie raskin a democrat of maryland is the chair of the subcommittee and here's part of his opening statement. many books are being targeted for censorship these days simply because they address racism or white supremacy as historical or sociological realities or address human sexuality or lgbtq issues because the protagonist or author is gay or a person of color or for some other allegedly objectionable reason. the vice chair of the committee is nancy mace. she's a republican from south carolina and we want to show you a portion of her opening statement as well public universities and colleges frequently run a foul the first amendment freedom by enforcing broad or overly broad speech codes or by chilling speech across college campuses using bias response teams to investigate thought criminals. there have been disturbing campaigns on these campuses to expel students fire faculty or dis invite speakers who hold views that are considered to go against the progressive consensus or group think these universities and colleges are unlawfully stifling speech to coddle young adults

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here's democratic congressman jamie raskin. >> i am concerned about what it does to people to feed themselvesare acting like members of a religious cult. vicon -- i have consulted deprogrammers. they said to be warm with them to make them remember what life is like before they got into the cult. >> joining me now is sean duffy. somebody i served with in the united states congress. we know raskin. this was not a flippant answer. he was very serious about wanting to deprogram religious guys like you. >> leaning back in the chair talking about deprogramming. isn't this the party that wants to talk about sex and transgender with 6 years old and they say republicans are part of a cult and calling parents domestic terrorists and they call republicans a cult. you see the press. they swarm around you and ask you hard questions. they do got you questions with republicans. but these guys they don't hear it from the press. they live in a bubble. he believes that republicans are living in a cult. you don't have to deprogram republicans in congress. you have to deprogram all of the american voters because

congressman jamie raskin is saying they will blow the roof off the house and reshape the public's understanding committee has uncovered. >> here's bennie thompson last night that describes the troves of evidence that are soon to become public. >> well, we'll tell the story about what happened. we will use a combination of witnesses, exhibits, things that we have through the tens of thousands of exhibits we've interviewed and looked at, as well as the hundreds of witnesses we've deposed or just talked to in general. so it will give the public the benefit of what more than a year's worth of investigation has gone to the committee. >> and it's where we begin today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. new york times congressional reporter luke broadwater joins us and harry lipman and former deputy assistant attorney general and former republican congressman david jolly, now national chairman of the serve america movement and an msnbc contributor joins us. >> if it's friday we have new text messages and these are reported from cnn and they're from a category of witness, luke, who has som

i believe that, in politics, timing is everything, and i believe that jamie raskin has kind of tippedhe hands of the democrats, and i think that what their plan is is to drop a bunch of subpoenas and charges on republicans just prior to the midterms, to try to sway the vote at that time. what does he think about that? guest: i don't think january 6 is going to change any minds from this point forward. i don't think there are any events that can happen from this point forward. the people capable of being outraged were outraged long ago. the people that have not been outraged are not likely to get outraged. i think this election is going to be more about inflation or whatever. free democrats, you try to do what you can do. it is not my job to tell them what they should or should not do. my job is to say whether it looks like it may work or won't work. i think trying to steer voters away from an election being a referendum up or down on who has the office now, and in this case, inflation, i don't think anything is going to steer this election any other way than being decided on those ele

. >> congressman jamie raskin from maryland told cbs news's face the nation, the committee members to put together some of former president trump's actions during the riot. but there are still some holes. and rascon has that. the panel is considering the possibility, but there is a gap because of incompetence within the white house and not because of a conspiracy happening tomorrow, the senate judiciary committee is expected to vote on whether to send judge ketanji brown jackson's nomination to the supreme court to the senate floor. so far, virtually every democrat is indicated they will support jackson. she is also being backed by a republican senator and that senator susan collins. but there are some republicans who have already announced that they would not vote to confirm judge jackson. and that includes senator roy blunt. >> she's certainly qualified. think you've got a great personality, i think will be a good colleague on the court. but the judicial philosophy seems to be not the philosophy of looking at what the law says. >> center says that despite his no vote, he does recogn

and i believe that jamie raskin has kind of tip the hands of the democrats, and i think that what the plan is, is to drop a bunch of subpoenas and charges on republicans just prior to the o midterms to try to sway the vote at that time. what does he think about that? >> guest: i don't think january 6th is going to change any minds from this point forward. i don't think there are any events that can happen from this point forward. i mean, the people that are capable of being outraged were outraged long ago, and the people that haven't been outraged are not likely to get outraged.. and so i think this election is going to be a whole lot more about inflation or whatever. for democrats to try to do whatever you can do but that's not my job to tell them what they should or should not do. my job is to say what looks liks it may work or won't work. i think trying to steer voters away from an election being a referendum up or down on who has the office right now, and in this case, inflation. i don't think that anything is going to steer this election any other way other than being decided on

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. >> and one of your colleagues on the committee, jamie raskin, he said he believes these hearings youoof off the house. those are the words he used. from the evidence released friday night, it sounds like the committee is moving in the direction of accusing trump of attempting a coup along with other plotters that may include sitting members of congress. does that sound right? >> well, i'm going to be content to let people make their own conclusions about the hearings which will be quite soon. we will be able to provide the information that we have been able to compile and people will reach their own conclusions. >> you were saying some unlawful actions probably occurred. laws appear to have been broken. >> of course. take a look at judge clark's decision in the eastman case where the judge himself said it was more likely than not that mr. eastman was engaged in criminal activity and fraud from the former president. that's from a federal judge. there's some serious, this is a serious situation. we came darn close to losing our constitutional form of government and to down play it, to

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. >> congressman jamie raskin telling cbs news's face the nation committee members have put together some a former president trump's actions during the riot. but there's still some holes. raskin adds that the panel is considering the possibility that the gap is due to incompetence within the white house and not a conspiracy. ukrainian president, volodymyr zelensky lashes out at russia as evidence of possible war crimes surface in ukraine. up next, what he wants to see happen before agreeing to any peace deal with russia and the families of the shooting victims in sacramento are speaking out tonight. how they're dealing with the tragic reality losing their loved ones. welcome back to kron. 4 news at 8. we're continuing to follow that breaking news out of sacramento where a mass shooting left at least 6 people dead. tonight we are hearing from the victims, families who say they are still in shock by what happened. reporter romina shots has that part of our coverage. >> i babies. they was sergio perez, a mother worried sick, waiting behind the yellow police crime scene tape since 2.30,

the annapolis book festival continues now i am so pleased to be here to introduce congressman jamie raskin and author of unthinkable. unthinkable is his soul-bearing new book. and the reason i was asked to be moderator is i spent the last four years making a documentary film about jamie. i followed him around and that film premiered on. february 6th on msnbc if anybody missed it you can it's streaming on nbc.com for free. so please go. have a look if you missed it. my name is madeline carter. and i think most of you probably know. the thumbnail about jamie, but just in case you need some reminders. um on the last day of 2020 jamie lost his son tommy to suicide. seven days later. jamie was trapped in the capitol on january 6 2021 when it was stormed by a violent mob he was also there with his daughter and his son-in-law who was married to his other daughter seven-day, excuse me, six days after that nancy pelosi named jamie lead impeachment manager for trump's second impeachment trial. jamie says that pelosi handed him a lifeline. when she asked him to do that he he says that he was so swamp