he said if ronald reagan met nancy before he met jane wyman he would never have been president. she would have seen to it that he got all of the parts and he would have been harvey, spirit of st. louis. she wanted that presidents just-- was the president's protector and every well he and she was willing to take the hit for him. took many hits and bad press and that was the price she was willing to pay. guest: she was called a t the behind her. people were brutal. guest: the idea of not only the first lady firing the president's chief of staff, but sitting with the transition team , that's never happened and she never had her own agenda. it was had why help ronnie. guest: don't you think most first ladies have been that way, but in the personal sense of anything for him? guest: yes. guest: mrs. roosevelt wanted her piece out of the middle, but she did that for other reasons, but most of them, it's the guy they live with, that they are married to and that's what he wants that he wants it for her also. guest: in terms of her firing the chief of staff she went to george hw bush and