have to revise his security filing i think like 193 times open up jared kushner's state of mind, jared kushner's state of mind is where he lied repeatedly on the most important security forms, you know this from the white house, that you ever fill out. a lot of people make mistakes and have to correct them once because they made a mistake and jared kushner lied repeatedly over and over on them. going back to our very first conversation, why are you lying on the security forms over and over again when you know that you're going to get caught it's to the plausible to think -- maybe he doesn't know either you're pliepd to tblind e possibility you will get found out which speaks to this discussion here about quinn, is he so in denial thinking somehow the whole thing will go away if we shut it down now, it will go away, never come back to haunt me, or is he not in denial or just wishful thinking so intense. one way or another, this is a guy who thought on this topic he could lie over and over again on security clearances and get away with it, that's the same kind of guy who thinks somehow i

they brought jared kushner in. they brought ivanka trump in. there were obvious clearly foreign identical concerns, foreign personal financial ties, extensive foreign contacts, extensive foreign travel, questionable judgement about how jared handled stuff in the transition in terms of wanting to use the russian government's secure line to conceal it from the u.s. government. all of those things, if it had been one of my clients, they would have been walked out the door, laughed out the room. it would never have been a consideration that they get cleared. that the two adjudicators said no makes complete sense to me. that's exactly what would have happened to my clients and what we expected would have happened here, that this individual, mr. kline, and he had the authority to do this, let's be clear, but it's a questionable decision as to why that he overruled them and granted the top secret clearance. raises significant questions about whether or not there was improper political influence and what the basis for the determination is, especially a

but jared kushner tried to block chris christie coming to lead the transition in the first place. there is no reason to doubt that account. while kushner and bannon aren't pals anymore, that was a period of time after the election when they were close, working in tandem. >> it doesn't appear as if chris christie is over it at this point as his book is coming out. >> it's called "let me finish". >> let me read you another excerpt. this time from axios. this is what chris christie says about the staff. he calls it a revolving door of amateurs, grifters, weaklings, convicted and unconvicted felons hustled into jobs they were never suited for sometimes without so much as a background check via google or wikipedia. >> i don't think everything comes down to a personal slugfest. if you're chris christie, i think there is a valid claim and there was a book written about how much of the root of trump's problems go back to the dysfunctional transition that took place when they took the work chris christie had done and threw it into the garbage and he had done that work with jeff sessions. th

here is something you're not, jared kushner. r didn't dump you because he didn't like you and what you did to his dad but he wanted to get a competent person a u.s. attorney out of the way to engage in dirty business in the purity of the transition. how plausible is that theory? >> listen, i think he understands, in fact i don't think, i know because he said it to me. you're one tough prosecutor, you're one tough guy. you don't look away at anything. he has said that to me in an unsolicited way and i would say yeah, you're right. he would say that's based upon his experience with me. listen -- >> he is walking through the transition with saudis and others he wants to make money with. wants to talk to kislyak for a secure line that the ic can monitor for the administration and the president. that stuff stinks to high heaven, and when people talk about likelihood of various people around donald trump getting indicted, lot of people look at kushner and say this period in transition is the period the dirtiest stuff can happen. does t

this is when chris christie took down jared kushner's father.t that moment 15 years ago, it's one of the stories that made chris christie politically in new jersey. the headlines. taking down such a big name. taking him down on such lur idcharilurid charges. 15 years later, here's chris christie by his own account repeatedly being blocked by the son of charles kushner because of a grudge dating back to that moment. it's such an incredible and straight twist of fate. i can't imagine what he thinks about it. >> we don't have to wonder, he gets into it in the book. let me ask you about another twist of fate, not to nerd out, but there's a moment in the book that he describes his decision where jared asks his advice about a guy who also was involved in these new jersey political circles, ended up fired from christie's team after bridge gate. kushner says should we bring him on to handle our political operations. and christie writes over agonizing over what to say, he's got loyalties to steppian. there's this guy, now he's in the 2020 reelection camp

i know he trashed jared kushner, "the washington post" reported he disparaged jared kushner's expertisen immigration. this is nick mulvaney's first crisis he managed, jeremy said a shutdown about nothing, the president's poll numbers are in the gutter. who's running the west wing? >> yes, he did make that sarcastic comment about jared but really jared kushner has accumulated an extraordinary amount of power and is involved chiefly in the congressional negotiations. but what i find when i talk to white house officials, even at a very senior level, people who when they used to have big, senior staff meetings in the roosevelt room, people in that room, they really don't know what's going on and it's a smaller and smaller group who actually do know what's going on. nick mulvaney, he's come in during a crisis. he brought some of his own people. he's doing the best he can with sort of a scrappy format. but, yeah, john kelly sort of strict churs that last a few months, they've completely disappeared. >> gets scarier. phil rucker, thank you for your reporting on the shutdown and being with us t

donald trump, jared kushner, all of them have benefited from loans from deutsche bank.igarch has been relieved, given sanction relief, and those proceeds will go right back to vtb, which is associated with deutsche bank. >> and vtb, of course, is said to have been the bank that was lined up to be the financing organization for the trump tower moscow project, which ended up -- >> exactly. >> let me just ask you. i'm reading a lot today into the fact that the financial services committee, congresswoman maxine waters' committee, and the intelligence committee, that one which is now run by adam schiff, i'm reading a lot into the fact that they've decided to do this as a joint operation, that they don't see this as just a banking concern or just an intelligence concern. i see this as they're look for the nexus here. do you think that's fair for me to read it that way? >> that is very fair. because there very clearly is a nexus. when you think about it, think about paul manafort and what we know about him. he was very, very indebted to this russian oligarch, deripaska. very i

s in new book "let me finish," christie is blaming his firing on one key adviser, jared kushner. and that's not all high claims on kushner and others in the west wing. he's pinning most of the problems that have plagued the campaign on the revolving door of deeply flawed individuals, amateurs, grifters, weak links, convicted and unconvicted felons. >> one of the president's biggest problems has been some of the people he surrounds himself with have been not good people. the president has been victimized by some bad choices that were recommended to him. folks like mike flynn, folks like steve bannon. what the hell was somebody like omarosa ever doing in the white house? >> there is one character who makes it out of the book relatively unscathed. donald trump. the former governor of new jersey chris christie joins me now live. thank you for being on the show. full disclosure. you were to be sitting next to me. you had some train troubles. i'm glad to see you in front of a camera. >> thank you hallie. the cold today broke up some rails on amtrak so sorry i was running late. >> that's

i would note this, jared kushner is a very adept negotiator.ecall, when the trade talks were breaking down over nafta, it was jared kushner who picked up the phone and make the deal happen. it was jared kushner reaching out how hakeem jeffries and cory bookers and others making this happened. this is a good group. if anyone can get this done, it's this group. i hope democrats come to the table and realize we have a crisis when you have 300 americans dying because of heroin 90% of which comes over the border. it's time to get to work. >> i'm going to leave this conversation for the moment, i want to movement back to impeachment. i'll estate with you, peter. >> congresswoman tla oiismt ait say what others are thinking? not the expletive, but the idea. >> it would be very unfair to generalize, but we are in the age of understanding fairness, so let mess generalize after my week in washington meeting with republicans and democrats. there are many like the congresswoman who declared both publicly and privately their interested in impeachment. i woul

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what type of clearance does jared kushner have at this point? what degree is this going to be looked into >> excellent question. after those white house career people were overruled for the top secret clearance, jared kushner being a senior government official in the white house was seeking what some cowl a higher level clearance the cia makes the decision about that they sent kushner's application over to the cia. they called back the white house and said how did you even give kushner a top secret clearance as of now jared kushner does not have that sci designation. he doesn't have access to nsa intercepts, to cia source reporting. it is hard to imagine how anybody can do a job like liaison with mexico without access to that intelligence. immediately after our story hit, the chairman of the house over sight committee said he would absolutely investigate this. it is our understanding he will subpoena if he needs to all the players in this story, including the white house official no longer there, by the way, who made these decisions to overrule

when we come back, jared kushner under investigation by the house oversight committees. lawmakers want to know how he got a clearance inside speeches of security. >>> and nancy pelosi fights back. the speakerp essentially shutting down the state of the union address over the shutdown. the question this hour, where will president trump go now to deliver his big speech? >>> the obstruction of the deep state was the stated policy go of the president's former adviser steve bannon. is that what's going on as we enter day three of the government shutdown? stay with us. shutdown? stay with us ♪ [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪ ♪ i have... ♪ when cravings hit, hit back. i have... choose glucerna, with slow release carbs to help manage blood sugar, and start making everyday progress. glucerna. i never thought i'd say this but i found bladder leak underwear that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. means they won't hike your rates over

previous white houses. >> is it really that alarming that it's happened 30 times and in the case of jared kushnerre have been stories since the -- almost the beginning of the trump administration about kushner and his quest for security clearances, his trouble getting them and he has them, then he hasn't. so the alarm is that the ability of kushner to pursue these security clearances only comes because his father-in-law is the president of the united states he's not just any old senior adviser who might have duties reassigned. this was somebody who before even all his duties were very defined, i know he had a portfolio that did include some things were needed, but that is the unusual time we're in, that he knew he had the power in the white house to pursue his quest for security clearances where other senior advisers without the family connection might not been able to keep the pressure on. >> we were just talking with some of our experts and asking who's next, what after stone -- who's name could be in the purview there of robert mueller and many of them were mentioning jared kushner. do you thi

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i want to move on to jared kushner. the reporting is he's been working the phones. he's been jumping on the phone with all these republicans basically saying to them, hey, listen, people will be tuning in tonight and their opinion of this wall will change, but, but my push to that is the opinion on this wall has not shifted in three years. so, dan, try to take off your partisan hat for me. if you're listening to this president for eight minutes tonight, what could this president say to change the hearts and minds? >> there is one thing that republicans and democrats do agree on here which is that jared kushner is absolutely terrible at his job. this is the person who told president trump that firing jim comey would be a political winner and the reason why this is sort of idiotic stuff he's spouting, trump has been talking about this topic for four years. we just had a midterm election where he manufactured a crisis -- these buzz word crisis -- >> the caravan. >> migrant crisis, caravan and they lost the largest landslide in decades in a midterm election. so the publ

he is reinforcing over and over on this book tour that jared kushner that jared kushner is influentialkes bad decisions in chris christie's opinion and he feels clearly that kushner has kept him, chris christie, the one with the good judgments away from donald trump because of his personal beliefs. >> the thing that we have to focus on about kushner's father. he loves him and he'll have a reaction to what happened to him and let's put that aside for a second. his father pled to those counts, why? i'm pretty close to this whole, not this case, but the legal system in general and it's because if he'd gone to trial it could have been worse for him. that's why he pled, okay? this pity party for his father, sorry. he's the u.s. attorney. damn right, he ought to stand up and say why he pursued that and it was tough charges. >> and christie believe, of course, that jared had a lot to do with his being fired as the head of the transition and christie believes that's the original sin of the trump administration that if they had gone through all of his suggestions and his loose leaf binders inst

exclusive clearance about jared kushner's security clearance. shner's application for a top secret clearance was rejected by two career white house security specialists after an fbi background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him. but their supervisor over road that and approved the clearance. ken, what do we know about when this happened and what the fbi background check flagged? >> i want to give shut out to my colleague, strictner. and he got spells treatment. we're told 30 other people had recommendations, flags, arguing they shouldn't have a security clearance were over ruled by this one supervisor in the office and this happened going into 2018 and in kushner's case, the concerns about him are well known. foreign entanglements, alleged foreign influence. he's got business investments abroad. his companies do business abroad and there's been reporting that foreign governments have targeted for influence and the fbi came back with a report detailing that and two career officials in the white house looked at this and

we saw that yesterday in that briefing with mike pence and jared kushner. and mick mulvaney. they're leading the charge as the president's emissaries. they don't have the president's image problems in terms of taking a hard-line position. they can work with people on the hill, including mitch mcconnell, speaker pelosi, and their oub ordinates. i think you'll see a lot more behind-the-scenes action this week, and then, of course, legislation going to the floor in both houses. host: a busy weekend, up early on a sunday morning, linda feldmann, covering all of this for "christian science monitor," thanks for being with us on c-span. we appreciate it. guest: my pleasure, steve. host: let's goat some of your tweets and then phone calls, your reaction to this white house offer that essentially offers protection for those daca, the so-called dreamers, in exchange for wall funding. the president calling it steel barriers. one viewer saying we have a president that allows his policy decisions to be shaped by that awful woman, ann coulter. another from karen saying, how is it bold to g

if i'm jared kushner, i'm terrified, because i believe my boy devin nunes. i'm terrified. whenever they get around to staffing the committee, that's the problem. devin nunes kind of sold them a bill of goods he is not going to be able to deliver now that adam schiff is in charge. >> but it will happen eventually >> eventually. >> remember devin nunes signed off on a report way back when. feels like a lifetime ago. that the russia investigation turned up absolutely nothing this is, you know, as the mueller investigation was in its early phases. >> no collusion. >> thank you so much for being here with us the rest of the panel will stick around could she be the key to winning the white house for the democrats? we're live in oakland for kamala harris' presidential campaign kickoff. a closer look at how she stacks up againstth oer hopefuls. still ahead. always a catch. like somehow you wind up getting less. but now that i book at hilton.com, and i get all these great perks. i got to select my room from the floor plan... very nice... i know, i'm good at picking s

and jared kushner. it's been a long time since we've seen any focus on jared kushner.at the charge would be. it seemed for a while that he was out of the woods since he had his full security clearance granted, that turns out that may not have gone through the normal process. with respect to donald trump jr. it remains this open question of whether he's ever submitted to an interview with the fbi. if not, he's the only person that was in that trump tower meeting who hasn't submitted it and if it's true that he hasn't sat down and met with the fbi, that would tell you he's a target of the investigation. we just have to wait to find out. >> you get a sense that stone is a link to others in this key investigation or just the end of it >> this is not the end of it. >> go ahead. >> absolutely, matt. this is not the end of it. it's very clear. corsi is a piece of this. he's running down the chain if you think about this from a prosecutorial standpoint. he's running down the chain to assange and wikileaks and ultimately to the russians. it's up the chain that we're looking at

and then jared kushner also getting involved. we know he at least spoke to one democratic senator.and the message from jared kushner is that the american people will support the president after they hear from him tonight and after they see him at the border. reporting in washington, i'm camila bernal. broadcast the speech live as well as the democratic response. it starts around 6:00. plus-- coming up at 5:30-- tom del becarro -- former chair of the calitalk about what is expected from trump's speech tonight. (vicki) happening now... police are searching for a man who sexually assaulted and robbed a woman in palo alto. kron 4's haaziq madyun has the story. (grant) (grant) (grant) has the story. haaziq madyun kron 4's haaziq madyun has the story. (grant) (grant) coming up-- a well-respected soccer coach in the east bay is behind bars tonight. how police say they caught him trying to meet a teenager-- for sex. (vicki) governor gavin newsom spends his first day in office addressing one of the state's biggest concerns. wildfires. we have the details on his plans for dealing with these

becauseoff got to have thanksgiving with them. >> there is a narrative out there that jared kushner ande of the darker impulses and channel president trump to a good place. >> i think there are times when jared and ivanka play a constructive role with the president. and there are other times when they don't. >> reporter: christie recounts a bitter meeting in trump tower in which he says kushner took him to task for prosecuting his father, billionaire charles kushner, pleaded guilty to 18 counts of financial crimes and witness retaliation and was sentenced to two years in prison when christie was the u.s. attorney for new jersey. >> i was overzealous, he said that i -- that this was a family dispute that should have been left to the family and the rabbis to resolve, not federal prosecutors. >> reporter: christie says trump overruled kushner that day at trump tower, but hints the son-in-law worked behind the scenes, first to keep christie off the ticket, and later to push him out altogether, firing him from leading the transition team. >> yes, steve was the executioner that was sent to do

the kid is jared kushner, the husband of ivanka trump and the son of real estate developer charles kushner, a man i once sent to prison. according to "the guardian," parts of the book are a blistering attack on jared kushner. he also accuses him of having carried out a political hit job against chris christie as an act of revenge for prosecuting his father more than a decade ago. "the post" reports that the book is actually surprisingly not too hard on the president himself. but it does look like the president might not have any friends left when you read this book and see some of his inner circle, it's really just down to his family that are loyal to him in a very strong way. >> well, i think "the post"'s assessment is right. everyone seems to have a target on tear baheir back when it com chris christie instead of donald trump himself. we've heard donald trump say the buck doesn't stop with him, it stops with everybody, in his own words, but of course we know that not to be the case. it wasn't jared kushner or anyone else, for example, who made the final example to hire michael flynn as h

she bashed jared kushner, steve bannon and sean spicer all by name. rick, jim, skill here.e read the statement in fairness to kellyanne conway. the real leakers, past and present, get more acknowledgment than i do. i preforeto see it from the front so i know it's coming. this was drafted in consultation with her husband george conway. i got nothing. >> i'll say something, this is a guy, for those who know him, he's attacking for somebody being leaker in a tell-all memoir about the white house. pick a lane, dude. i think probably a lot of people in that white house talked to reporters. i'm sure conway does. >> we thank god they do. >> the whole world is better informed for it. but the memoir, the only thing that strikes me is in normal times, these memoirs have scores settling like as a subpart or sub theme. it's very trumpy for the whole memoir to be about the score settling. >> let's pull back the curtain a little bit how we do our jobs. we did our jobs as government officials and political operatives. there is a line of communication between people in the white house and

there were real questions about jared kushner.was reported that his security clearance was downgraded because he didn't fill out his financial disclosures. then it was reported he had a complete security clearance. later "the washington post" said yes, but it wasn't top secret material. kushner is a subject of the mueller inquiry and people are asking, how can he have a full security clearance when he's the subject of a special counsel investigation? >> so this is one aspect of going to the heart of it. there's another letter that has just come out from cummings, writing about the nra and potential issues between john bolton before he joined the administration, nra, nra fundraising, russia, maria butina. this gets into a whole other -- >> it sure does. and a potential link with the russia investigation. john bolton was an nra official, he was on a committee. he appeared in a video roundtable with maria butina, this russian national who has been charged as acting as unregistered foreign agent for russia. there are real questions ab

talk about it. >> more importantly, jared kushner, people forget when the campaign ended jared kushner gave sbrir interviews where he about the things they did with facebook, things they did with twitter, other social media platforms, google, youtube, a number of them. he boasted about how they built -- that was his purview and he and parscale -- he was parscale's patron at the campaign. to really make those kinds of campaigns -- the kinds of disinformation campaigns work, manafort was gone by then. that's why i think this is not the end of the story or even the beginning of the end of the story. this is the beginning of the beginning of the story where he's going to spain in the summer period. what you would need is you would need state-by-state demographic, the kind of polling that's not top-line numbers, not horse race numbers and need them toward the end which is when the race was really close and when small media efforts could make a big difference at the end. so that's why i think we're seeing, this is not going to be last of these revelations. >> for all my critique of the trump

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the president took a lead role in forecasting this propose sals alongside jared kushner who is a jack of all trades figure here in the white house. if you talk about the raw politics, this was about the president trying to reframe the dynamics of this debate. they were trying to give the appearance of a good faith negotiator. by offering something they think the democrats can get behind. just in the last hour or so they held a briefing with reporters. kelly o'donnell was there and she tells me that the vice president says they're looking forward to a vote that mitch mcconnell says he will call as early as tuesday and they are rejecting this notion from the far right that the president offering these protections from dreamers and some ref gugees th this constitutes amnesty. ann coulter said we voted for trump and we got jeb. much earlier in this process to reverse course and say he would not sign that spending deal that would have funded the government. it would have avoided all of this. so that is sort of like the political underlying debate here as we try to get through this five wee

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describes how he and his wife go and have lunch with president trump and his son-in-law adviser jared kushnerichael flynn, the national security adviser, has been fired. and trump says that the russia issue is over because of the firing, and kushner agrees with him. he basically parrots that assessment and christie says he essentially says, yeah, i'm not so sure about that. what do you think about this anecdote? >> it's not surprising given ki christie's relationship with jared, and i think the way kushner has portrayed, and there is truth to it, that he's sort of been at the nexus of every bad decision that the white house has made. some good ones, but christie is focusing on, for example, the firing of comey. and jared says he had nothing to do with it but he approved of it, and he thought that it really wouldn't create the ru ruckus that it caused, because democrats don't like comey and christie told him, you're kidding me, right? of course it's going to create a ruckus. he pushed for the hiring of manafort during the campaign, and you can go over your list of things. and christie is not f

there's jared with kushner right in the middle behind the vice president, and that meeting broke up with no end to the closure in sight. hello, everyone, and welcome to a brand new hour of "america's news headquarters," i'm eric shawn. laura: and i'm laura ingle. today's meeting coming after yesterday's white house meeting between president trump and congressional leaders ended in a stalemate with both president trump and democrats refusing to give ground. during a news conference in the rose garden after the meeting, the president held firm on his demand for a border wall, warning that he's ready to take drastic action if necessary. >> have you considered using emergency powers to grant yourself authorities to build this wall without congressional approval? and second -- >> yes, i have. >> you have? >> yes, i have. and i can do it if i want. >> so you don't need congressional approval? >> no, absolutely. we can call a national emergency because of the security of our country, absolutely. no, we can do it. i haven't done it. i may do it. i may do it. but we can call a national emergency

leadup to the president's first primetime oval office address to the nation, kcnn has learned jared kushner is working the phones. the source says cushner is hoping to convince lawmakers that public support for the border barrier will increase after the speech tonight and a visit later. in the meantime, the second longest government shutdown on record is just four days away from being the longest effort by which time some 800,000 federal workers will have missed a paycheck while scores of government services are stopped or curtailed. what do we expect the president to say tonight? we have already seen him mislead. he and his advisers share some specious data and facts. do we expect new data tonight? >> reporter: what we expect from the president tonight is for him to try to control the framing of the national debate about immigration so it is held on his terms as he tries to keep up the pressure on democrats to fund his border wall. the president's first address will come as the aides worry that the messaging over the past few weeks has failed to resonate. they fear for example that his bui

we saw vice president mike pence walking in with jared kushner, kirstjen nielsen and mick mulvaney. hundreds of thousands of federal workers are feeling the impacts. struggling to make ends meet. as they wait for the government to reopen. >> when something like this happens and you're not going to get your next check, it's like, okay, what do i do? i'll have to make a tough choice between, you know, paying my utilities or going and buying groceries for the next two weeks. >> let's check in with cnn white house reporter sarah westwood. hundreds of thousands of people waiting to find out about their next paycheck, sarah, while pence holds that meeting. the big question, you know, will come, when is the government going to reopen? what will they agree upon? what's next? >> the answer to that question looks far off. not a lot of optimism these negotiators will arrive at an agreement today, particularly after both president trump and those democratic congressional leaders emerge from high-level talks in the situation room yesterday with very different assessments about where things stand

the other said they were characterizing jared kushner's thinking and said he wants to go big.. he can with stand ann coulter but he can't lose sean hannity and the rest. looking at jared kushner's conversations with congress told me he hasn't been pushing this idea he related into the white house, he's talking and listening. i don't have any evidence -- >> the praise goes go big or go him. >> if it were to head to the hill, jonathan, how would it play out? >> you don't hit republicans with an idea like this, they peel off. you've barely barely got them together behind the proposal trump outlined over the weekend. >> let's talk a little bit about the state of the union in its own right has become a side circus to everything we're talking about in washington. will trump essentially call nancy pelosi bluff and try to move forward with plans to deliver his own state of the union whether in the senate where he could get an invite or somewhere elsewhere it has more of a campaign style rally flavor to it? >> i spoke to a senior administration official who is privy to the internal con

most notably jared kushner. that there were concerns about potential foreign influence on him and then with all 30 of them, somebody in a senior position overruled all of the findings. are you aware of this, and if so, do you agree with this decision? >> this is just breaking as i walked over here from a different meeting on border security and the shutdown. so i can't really comment on that, chris. i know it's a brand new report. there's nothing i can say about it accept that i'm sure i work side by side with many of these people every single day and find them to be upstanding americans trying to serve their country as best they can, but i can't comment on the specifics because i have not had a chance to even read the report which i think is from a different network. >> it's an nbc news report. i wanted your take on it, especially because of the stuff about jared kushner. we heard this before. the word from the white house, in fairness, not from you, but from the white house had been there was no real problem.

someone is telling him not to do it. >> jared kushner. >> maybe it is jared kushner. >> look, i thinkisconnected the president is from every day people. he doesn't care about struggling people who live paycheck to paycheck. i was reading reports earlier today of one example of a federal worker selling her car to pay her mortgage. what about those who can't put gas in their car and pay their rent? what do you tell the person who owns the car? can i'll pay you next month? that doesn't work for people living in the real world and gos to show you how horrific this presidency has become. i think donald trump cemented himself as the worst president in american history. >> that's a quote. thank you. finally, secretary of state, mike pompeo was supposed to lay out the trump administration's decision for the middle east. instead, he repudiated barack obama's foreign policy. let's listen. >> what are did we learn from all of this? we learned when america retreats chaos often follows, when we reject our friends, resentment builds and when we partner with our enemies, they advance. the good news,

so jared kushner was involved in that does he get credit? he deserves some clearly. but everybody will have personality differences with other people they work with. we're all judged on the results. what do we do at the end of the day to get this country back on track. >> neil: fair enough. i think you've been through more important things to put life in a better perspective. steve scalise, back in the game, glad that you are. good seeing you again. >> good being back with you. >> neil: meantime, roger stone encounters protesters again and now saying, you know what? i'll talk but i have nothing bad to say about the president. this could drag on awhile. what constitutes awhile? try a year. if i built a van, it would do more than haul. if i built a van, it would carry my entire business. i'd make it available in dozens, make that thousands of configurations. it would keep an eye on my fleet. [ beeping ] and an eye out for danger. with active brake assist. if i built a van, i'd make it available in diesel and gas. and i'd build it right here, in south carolina. introduc

jared kushner, you found, was essentially denied a security clearance and that denial was overriddena political appointee, do i have that right? >> not a political appointee but a political career in the trump administration administration move twoxt in the white house thought jared kushner was unfit for military secrets. >> and it was because of -- >> the things we all know, foreign entanglements, meetings he had with russia during the campaign, things that would get normal person disqualified for security clearance foreign contacts, they take it seriously, even to a faumt you're supposed to disclose every foreigner you met over the years that is sometimes very difficult and unfair, but those are the rules and the rules were not applied to mr. kushner there's another beat to this too actually, this hand 30 other times to other white house officials who remain unnamed, and that is unprecedented. and then when kushner was trying to get another type of clearance for sensitive compartment information, the really juicy stuff the nsa intercepts, cia, source reporting, that went to the cia

also a bad idea, entrusting the negotiations with democrats to trump's son-in-law jared kushner, whosece to his father-in-law reportedly was to dig in. jared believed that he could crack the senate democratic caucus and get an immigration deal politico reported that after the vote to re-open the government and fund the wall failed in the senate, jared was surprised it got only one democratic vote, joe manchin, who represents a state that voted 68% for trump lesson learned, don't send jared. see, there is this thing that those of us that are parents inevitability confront, and it's what you might call the crying child scenario or that thing where your child wigs out in a store. the question, do you intervene and say pick up the child or give him the candy that they're demanding or do you just let them cry it out? the point is that if you choose to intervene, what the child learns is that their behavior controls your behavior whereas if you let them cry it out, they eventually learn to calm themselves and while clearly donald trump is a 72-year-old adult and not a child, much the same ru

you have steven miller in one place and jared kushner in another place and the president kind of in the middle and pulled back and forth between the two. and so that makes any sort of -- is this going to be the start of a serious negotiation? well, this is all in public. this isn't sort of privately them actually working things out. there's just so much mistrust. >> to that point, that's why mitch mcconnell said, mr. president issue let's do this but you have to gout publicly. if you want republicans to vote for something a lot of our base calls amnesty, even if it's temporary status. some conservatives call it amnesty. you go first, mr. president, so we know this has your seal of approval in a public way. does it move anything or do we get a house senate divide because house democrats and senate democrats -- house and senate members don't often think alike. senator manchin, just re-elected. nothing to worry about, but i'm hopeful the president's statement will allow us to immediately reopen the government. put west virginians back to work and start negotiating long-term immigration ref

also donald trump jr., jared kushner, eric trump.n finance, the hush money payments michael cohen was convicted of. those guilty plea papers mentioned executive 1 and executive 2 in the trump org. they are the people who authorized and made the payments. if of any those people are don junior, eric trump, jared kushner, they could be on the hook. there was the trump tower meeting don junior was part with kushner. there's a couple of different areas i'd be looking at for them. >> and there are people that have already been indicted and pleaded guilty, already been convicted with manafort. those guys still have to be sentenced. what are you watching for? >> paul manafort is in a terrible spot. he's about to turn 70 years old. a year ago he was charged but a free man. since then he got thrown in jail because he violated his bail. he got convicted at trial. pled guilty to more crimes and got caught lying to mueller trying to cooperate. his sentence is coming up. he has a hearing later in january about whether he lied to mueller or not. th

jared kushner kept talking about a big deal.omething that included daca protections like vice president pence was talking about with l margart sunday. maybe even adjusting green card policies. is that real, i jeff, thdea of an immigration deal in mid february now that the government is reopened? >> it is very for me to get my mind around a big immigration deal. we've all wat ed when president bush was in office and that's the driving force of that republican party orthodoxy at the time. s to get a deal. if they couldn't do it then i don't see how suddenly this becomes something that happens now. we don't like to rule anything out. because this president is nothing if not flexible. and again, he does, i think, want to make a deal. he lov the press coverag when he sees himself getting a deal. he hates this press coverage -- he's saying that it wasn't a concession. he didn't cave. we, he did cave soatch his reaction in the coming days as he watches this all be picked apart. all that said, i can't really see a big immigration deal c

inaudible conversations] >> the senior members of the trump campaign, don, jr., paul manafort, jared kushner meeting with a russian emissary who they were told was bringing them dirt, produced by a secret operation of the russian government to harm hillary. they said yes, we'll meet with you and presumably use it if they found it useful. they were agreeing or conspiring to collude with russia with that one act. and throughout the campaign trump and his lieutenants, again and again and again denied the russians were doing anything. >> david corn, best selling author will be on our live call-in program. recent book, "russian roulette" the inside story of putin's war on america and the election of donald trump. and other books, watch in depth with david corn live on c-span2's book tv. >> c-span where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable companies. we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, supreme court, and public events in washington d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satel

anybody else needed some people who had experience in government and people like his son-in-law, jared kushnersteve bannon, were intent on keeping those kind of people away from him so they'd have greater control. >> bannon is gone. you always hear the same story about people who work with kushner. nice enough, smart enough, knows nothing about what he was doing. we don't know why he was here, had to tutor him on this. president keep putting him in those situations. let me ask you about one thing in the book without giving too much away. if you have the books page 535. so, context of when the president went to comey and said, be easy on flynn. okay? people say, well, you know, where was his mind? is that really obstruction? i'm not going to get into that with a seasoned prosecutor like you, but in context, you had had a conversation with him, it's in the book, at one point during the lunch, donald said to me, the russia thing is all over because i fired flynn. i started to laugh. sir, this russia thing is far from over. what do you mean? he said, flynn met with the russians, that was the probl

and ken, there is some interesting conversation now related to the president's son-in-law, jared kushner and this issue of security clearances. i think we have that sound ready to go. i want to play it if we do. >> i do support providing all the information necessary for not only the white house but for all of our branches, relative to providing security clearance. they have the authority to do that. we issue guidelines in terms of what -- >> i understand you have the authority. i want to know do you think that the white house should take seriously the recommendations of the fbi e perxperts in. >> to my knowledge they do. it's their decision based on a number of factors. we've seen every administration issue clearances based on how they assess what is provided. our job is to provide them the best information we have relative to security clearance processes, so they have the full picture in front of them when they make that decision. >> speaking of the full picture -- >> that was that sound from the hearing that just happened moments ago. can you explain the back story of why this came up