i want to bring in anthony de maria, his uncle, jay sebring, was one of the victims of the manson family. anthony, thank you for joining me this evening. you know, there's been a law that's been talked about and said over the years, five decades worth and more. the nation, of course, has been fastening by all that happened. it is unbelievable to think that this is a member of your own family who was one of the victims. before we even begin, you know, tell me what you are feeling on a day like today, knowing that one more person is now freed. >> well, the first thing is obviously i, i, my, my thoughts are with the victims, all the victims and all of our families. because as leslie collectively tortured, conspired, and killed her victims, so too our families collectively bound by the loss and suffering of her crimes. and it's clearly that leslie van houten's release is the, it profoundly impacts our families, but i fear that a very dangerous, pernicious precedent is established today that will impact millions of victims of violent crimes, and throughout the state of california today, and i