i mean they went from the jayvees to theght months.irren that's really a development program in basketball. so it seems to me fair to say there's been an intelligent failure. it's also fair to say they're now telling us the truth in a way that roosevelt in 1939, '40, '41 with a deeply divided and largely isolated country desperately surreptitiously began moving the country to accept the fact that a war was coming. >> chuck. >> well, again, i mean it isn't -- as you were pointing out, it isn't the pentagon's job to prepare the president, you know. that is sort of what's constitutionally kind of messed up about this process that's taken place. if it's as big a deal as we all seem to think it is, you've got to get congress into the picture, you might need new authorization for additional force, you're going to need the president to make addresses to the public. there's a lot of political heavy lifting left to do. >> this is not in the dna, you're saying, in the administration or the president. >> exactly. as we see from the testimony of t

the jayvee squad. the jayvee squad. josh earnest today josh earnest today incysting the president was president was not sickling out isis but isis but opining about different threats posed by threats posed by various extremists. extremists. meanwhile, the white house meanwhile, the white appears to be appears to be tweaking what general martin dempsey said last thursday when thursday when he and defense secretary chuck hagel secretary chuck hagel issued dire warnings dire warnings about isis. you'll remember you'll remember dempsey said the only way to actually only way to actually defeat isis was to go was to go in to syria with the u.s. u.s. military. dempsey now dempsey now clarifying that isis is just is just a regional threat. and he's and he's not sure about u.s. military military action. officials deny that officials deny that dempsey was pressured though they are pressured though they are vagu on whether they agree with what on whether they agree with what he he originally said about syria mili

the pentagon makes it clear the islamic state is no longer the jayvee team does it white house trieslitary action in. for free u.s. ambassador to the united nations john the united nations john bolton is next. hey check it out hey get that sign back up ♪when it gets cold and it feels like the end♪ (sndfx: clapping) ♪there's no place to go you know i won't give in♪ (sndfx: clapping) ♪no, i won't give in ♪keep holding on ♪caues ya know we'll make it through♪ lou: and joining us now former ambassador to the united nations, led john bolton in good to have you with us. , i know you have called for the destruction of the islamic state by the united states. just watching the administration walk back similar comments to chairman dempsey and defense secretary a goal. what makes you think this leadership that is the same who withdrew our troops and made possible from that vacuum what makes you think there is any prospect to see that occur now? >> hope springs eternal that is the best i can say. i don't expect the president to do what is necessary to eliminate the threatened by a very worried t

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where as recently as a couple months ago president obama calls isis the jayvee team.se. but how? sfwl because the president, first of all, could not possibly be reading his presidential daily brief. i mean, this is a document that there's only a hundred or so copies circulating the government of the united states. this document has had that in there. i'm no big fan of the current management of the cia, but they've been reporting this. this is the kind of stuff that's been going to the white house now for months. not just days or weeks. and what you're looking at is a terror organization that is about -- time is not an ally in all of this. this administration is consistently refused to do the right thing. look at libya, look at syria and now look at iraq. and now he's weighing whether he's going to develop some kind of strategy for this. the bottom line of it is what isis intends to do and congressman gohmert alludes to it briefly, is they intend to send americans back to this country who now learned how to make suicide vests, get on the me fro here in washington or up

well, the analogy we use around here sometimes and i think it is accurate that, you know, as if a jayvee team puts on laker uniforms that doesn't make them kobe bryant. what part of this is the president missing, mr. vice president? >> well, i keep wrestling with this question, sean, of whether it's naive or lack of experience or because that's the way he wants things to work. i've just about reached the point or i've concluded that what he is discovering fairly late in his administration is that his basic world view is fundamentally flawed, that the world is a mean, nasty place on occasion that you need a very strong america, you need superior american military forces to deal with it. and i think every single day that goes by he's finding that there's a bigger and bigger gulf between his hoped for view of the world and reality. he's not up to speed and does not want to believe all that's going on out there. but every day we find new evidence that he'd rather be on the golf course than he'd be dealing with a crisis that's developing rapidly in the middle east. >> what was your reaction t

and by the way some hell of a jayvee team as the president referred to it. thank you so much. by the way, not only is the administration under fire for the leak of the failed rescue mission which according to some was intended to be political cover for the president. now the commander in chief's priorities are being scrutinized like never before because yesterday we saw him deliver a statement on the beheading of an american journalist and then within a matter of minutes where did he return? right back to the golf course. here to respond are two former cia officials, michael surer and bill cowen. gentlemen, welcome back to the program. good to see you. first of all, what is your reaction? i don't think it was just a little over three minutes that the president spoke about this horrific beheading. and really a threat of war because they were addressing the united states. bill cowen, it was right on the links minutes later the hill said. what's your reaction to that? if i was the president i'd be in the situation room with every national defense person i had. >> sean, narrow fid

in january the president told "the new yorker" isis was like a jayvee team. but the day after a tape surfaced showing american journalist james foley being executed, dire warnings from the administration. >> there has to be a common effort to extract this cancer so that it does not spread. >> oh, this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. >> reporter: u.s. officials tell nbc news though isis has gotten a lot stronger over the past six months, it's not believed the group is capable of pulling off a 9/11-size attack. but they could still do damage on american soil. >> even a small terrorist attack carried out by isis would have dramatic worldwide consequences. and that's exactly what they're seeking to do. >> reporter: and terrorism analysts say isis is starting to plan. >> there is already evidence that individuals were trained in syria, westerners who are coming back to western countries, are intending to carry out terrorist attacks here. >> reporter: the white house has said they are taking the threats seriously. and in a "th

so when he called isis a jayvee-style terrorist group last january, that didn't make it so.hat this is, it's not just a threat to the region. it's a threat to the united states and united states security. this is a movement that is a state that has an army, that has american weaponry, that has control of dams and has control of oil fields and ha so much money that it actually is issuing paychecks to a bureaucracy running this thing. this is a tremendous threat to this country. >> it's an army. here's a former u.s. intelligence official as if well as the spokeperson now for isis. >> this organization is more capable and has greater aspirations than al qaeda ever dreamed of having. there are initiatives under way by isis in planning and development for western europe and in the united states. >> what about this group and we we are in the operation? >> these people are as the president said bar bearish and they're being compared to khmer rouge and those like the nazis. any time you say something like that, they say you're over the top. i don't think so. i think these people are

. >>> from the jayvee team to a clear and present danger, did president obama misjudge the threat fromthis is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. apparently the isis terrorists are ready for prime time after all. the administration is in full spin control mode tonight trying to overcome the impression that president obama badly underestimated the threat of what is emerging as the world's most dangerous terrorist group.

the an ally we use around here is if a jayvee team puts on lakers uniform, that doesn't make them kobe bryant. >> the world is less violent than it has ever been. >> just last month the spokesman said america has made the world a more tranquil place. >> i tlink have been a number of situations where they have substantially improved the tranquility of the global community. >> is the administration behind on global threats? karl rove thinks so. >> the administration has been behind the eight ball since the beginning of this thing. that's because this president does not have a strategic view of what america's interests very are or a view strategically of what america ought to do in order to aid its allies and friends and confront its enemies. >> bob, i want to start with you. would the left having are given president obama a hard time if he had done air strikes in sear dwra or kept troops in iraq longer without a date certain? would the left have really have been that bothered? i don't think so. i'll tell you why. for one, in light of this horrible, horrible refugee problem, you know, we

the president referred to them as the jayvee.an back in 2011 said there's no -- the chances of an islamic caliphate, that vision is absurd. we're not going to recognize it. our counterterrorism policies, you know, that's a feckless delusion that will never happen. what world are these people living in? >> i have no idea. remember mike morell whom we just saw was the deputy director of the cia and worked with brennan. what's interesting to me is dempsey today was not the dempsey of last thursday. last thursday he said the group poses an immediate threat to the west in the form of hundreds of european and american fighters who fought with a group in iraq and syria and could return home to their countries to attack because they've got western passports. he said last week, "if they were to achieve that alt the middle east and create a security environment that would threaten us in many ways." he said you can't simply defeat them in iraq, "the party organized in syria must be addressed." dempsey thursday and today have stepped back. i

and the president said they were jayvee. west point we can trust because they don't answer to anybody politically. they have concluded this group was growing in threat for the past four years and the administration knew it. >> isil had four years of safe havens and sophisticated training planning and building an intelligence network in iraq from syria. in 2013 he started his soldiers harvest campaign of assassinating iraqi soldiers, government officials and the secular sunnis who worked with the u.s. since 2006. what you're now seeing is he's attracting jihadis from all over the planet. and as many as 12,000 foreign jihadists are now among them 1,500 brits and maybe as many as 300 americans who are fighting there. all of whom could come back here. this administration has got to act. and they've got to act quickly. they cannot take months to plan this. the options are factually time is not our ally, the u.s. failed to support the kurds. now the iranians are doing so. >> we haven't acted in several instances that appears to ha

dangerous they were when he said the analogy we use around here sometimes and i think is accurate is if a jayveers uniforms that doesn't make them kobe bryant. junior varsity. that was the quote that the president said then. seems to be haunting him now. >> it should haunt him. i think there was a tendency of the administration going all the way up to the top to think of the al qaeda problem basically had been solved when they had taken out core al qaeda, when they killed osama bin laden, there was an insufficient understanding that these new offshoots were in their way as dangerous as what the u.p.s. had faced a decade ago. many did underestimate mosul and syria. >> think about this minority ethnic group, 40,000 of them, men, women and children on top of this mountain. they don't have food, water. many of them are going to starve or die very, very soon. and isis is surrounding them. they are not going up the mountain. they are going to die soon. that clock is ticking. how much time does the u.s., the international community, what's called that central government of baghdad which is useless how